Bought a Cheap 1st Gen Cummins to fix up… NOT DRIVABLE

[@Jordy40Growing]

Also look at the King pins to make sure the spring ain’t broke and plastic bushings aren’t worn. Check the driver side front leaf hanger . Notorious for being lose. And check the steering box plate adapter plate . Also notorious for cracking. And the frame behind the steering box plate. Also prone to cracking. Good to see an old first gen on the channel again.

[@peanutbuttajiffs7644]

Just rebuilt my front end and couldnt have said it better myself...

[@Jordy40Growing]

@@peanutbuttajiffs7644 I rebuilt mine two years ago. I went from push pull steering to crossover . But I went back to push pull. Crossover felt too easy .

[@immortal7.3lw85]

Saving those old trucks, you’re a true American hero.

[@VBELTandSON]

Thank you

[@harrywalker968]

@@VBELTandSON WHERE,S YOUR GOD DAM JACK STANDS, DAM RED NECKS.. ausie.. i have 4 u.s. 4x4rs. 62 - 02. & a doooodge challenger,,73..r/t 340..

[@harrywalker968]

@@VBELTandSON yur gata do virtical ups..you can spot burn it, or weave it. vert down got noooo streangth.. id still check all the b/j,s. bushes.. w/bearings. dodge & chev pulled out of aus, dodge first then chev about 86.. so,,i drive ford.. no jap sht in my yard..[ 2.0 ford focus tdi, german. ]. my s/duty is a 4.2tdi, german engine, tractor,, built in brazil.. has 700nm,[ 560lbft,ish]. 13 lt 100.. 02 single cab/tray..

[@cummins-rc6mx]

​@VBELTandSON is it costly to convert one of these 1st gens front 2wd to 4wd?

[@lonelyplanet1080]

awesome First Gen....the body style of the First Gens, and OBS Fords, and ONS Chevy's will always be better looking than any of the newer body styles.... can't wait to see it all cleaned and tuned up 💪

[@Zewestcoaster]

Hunch #3: the lift that was installed changed the caster angle on the front axle.... You may need angle shims between the leafs and axle.

[@VBELTandSON]

Would take a lot on the lift to mess with the caster on a spring leaf truck. It hardly moves I looked into that but I found the real issue will show in a future video. Thanks for the input

[@Daniel_kruger]

Shackles in the rear of spring gets castor the correct way and it will actually be more self correction

[@LoneWolf-cf5tp]

One of the coolest trucks u ever owned. 👍🏻

[@Seat-Swamp]

Brother you're a great teacher, keep up the good work!

[@kentmckean6795]

Whenever possible, you should weld up rather than down. You tend to go down faster due to gravity so you will get better penetration welding up.

[@turbolab2376]

And if you don’t have a ton of practice you will have a bunch of drippy weld. I can’t weld up to save my life but I’m working on it. Same with up side down.

[@ethanrobinson9813]

Structural welder huh..

[@raychilcote5558]

Appreciate you showing what didn't work as well as what did. Death wobble can be one thing or several combined. On the combined, taking one out might stop DW for a while. Track bar is always worth a first look. Heck, even if you've fixed DW elsewhere. Lifts impacting caster is a huge possibility as well. That truck sounds great! And wash that windshield.

[@douglasmorton6121]

I dumped a bunch of time and cash into my stock 2005 Ram 2500 Quad Cab. I always research issues that arise and try to learn as much as I can, even if it’s beyond my own ability or time frame to fix. I learned a lot about the ‘Dodge Death Wobble’, which is found in other vehicles as well… including Jeeps, Fords pickups, and Chevy pickups. Track bar bushings, steering stabilizers, and faulty tire side-walls are often cited as the problems, but steering box flexion on the frame and pitman arm slop are often the main culprits. In my case, I put a Mopar upgraded from end on and new tires. It solved if for about a year and a half. Some genius developed a pitman arm bearing isolator, which mounts at the front sway bar mounts and eliminates the pitman arm slop. I believe a lot of off-road companies now market the same thing. I hope that guy got rich! In my case, it was wear to many components and not just one. I do love my Dodge and Ram trucks… and my Jeep… but they can be a pain in the rump at times. Thank you Sam! Nice truck! Stay Safe Folks!!!

[@mikestrucks]

What a beautiful truck Sam ! Man I can’t find anything here anymore. Looks like I empty the market 😅 Death wobble keeps you awake on long night drives… 😅

[@jayg479]

😂

[@jeffreypinder9398]

Great save on that one, Sam. Now I am caught up, just have to watch the "Hitch Wasn't Strong Enough" video.

[@sblsbl7600]

Hey Sam, nice truck. It's a keeper. How about a video where you put windshield washer fluid in it. Lol

[@mrredpill3121]

I've seen that wobble and it ended up being that it was out of alignment.

[@turbogrin]

WOW Look at that unicorn ! What a great find !

[@Daniel_kruger]

I see in comments you found the issue. My experience is castor angle is nr1 source of dwobble. Due to worn bushings or balljoints

[@dutch9357]

Did you see Fab Rats putting a 12v and a G56 in their off-road wrecker? I think it’s a 1950 Chevy body. 06 Dodge frame. Looks super cool. Really digging that build. Why not just use some flanged lug nuts off a newer dodge? 9/16x 18 thread. You’ve probably got a hundred of them kicking around

[@Denis-tu1pd]

Maybe check the balance on the wheels. It could be a combination of suspension and wheels

[@2chipped]

Had death wobble on my 08 chevy duramax 17 ft box truck. Wheel bearing went out. Have a 2nd gen extended,long bed. Can't keep the 3speed auto going. Dropped a re-man in,only 1500 miles in 8 yrs. Works great till the filter plugs lol. A project for later,Ga truck with no rust.

[@5150cash]

Dang that's like a evil kenevel style ride with that death wobble 🫣🫣🫣🫣🤘🏽

[@jameseroh6544]

All of the things people mention that contribute to death wobble. Are definitely true! But I found that using centramatics on the vehicles they fir on. Gives improved tire life and the smoothest drive. On my wife's '18 Ram 2500 4wd, I had already installed a steering brace. No death wobble at that time, but wanted the better handling. The truck developed death wobble on a 6,600 mile trip around the USA. The truck is low miles and has around 32k miles today. We rotated the tires at 3/4 of the way through the trip. The death wobble went away! I ordered the centramatics. After installation, testing up to 105mph on old payment in the desert near Lancaster, CA. The ride was smooth! Now have a 4wheel popup Hawk model camper on the back. And the ride is very nice still.

[@ronaldhughey6038]

I had on an 01 Town and Country mini van. Never did figure it out.

[@weshawkins7165]

You found another one! I don’t know how you do it. Those longer shackles with change the caster angle a little bit which could cause it.

[@kdougk3478]

Like the truck to bad it’s not a manual, but I love to have it. Please put a jack stand under there be safe bubba👍

[@brandensilva4427]

Cross over suspension, 2wd mounting plate for crossover, most likely frames going to need to be welded behind the steering box,maybe look At the steering column too

[@bradcarroll5265]

That is an awesome first gen! Those fog lights on the front where expensive units back in the 90’s too. PIAA I believe was the brand.

[@eriknelson45]

Real sweet 14$ bulbs that blow or don't work in one week, LED only been around 13 yrs and last forever

[@VBELTandSON]

@eriknelson45 if you’re gonna be a troll own it. Don’t delete your other comments.

[@mlhse111]

Beautiful truck change out them ball joints as well which cause death wobble. Stocks only last so long.

[@robertdunaway9872]

I love that truck! I would drive it every day

[@williamwhite1596]

Love the first and second generations . Nice ! God Bless !!!

[@Itsa_Mea]

Now we're back on track. 😊

[@smsjr36]

Also Jack it up and have someone turn your steering wheel from side to side. While you inspect the front steering components for excessive play.

[@rasruhmann4463]

I would buy that' 1 gen in a heart beet

[@elibrown9442]

My d350 “2wd” does the same exact thing but only when you step on the brakes

[@jadebrecks]

I had never seen death wobble till today. You guys can keep that 🤣

[@stevenowell]

Modern big trucks have hub centered wheels that have a straight bore for the wheel studs whereas the older Budds were stud centered and the wheels were what is called coined in to match the coined out lug nuts. Are those 19.5 wheels

[@stevenowell]

Meant to say Hub Piloted and Stud Piloted

[@stevenowell]

Well I guess I was not paying close enough attention. I don't think I have ever seen hub piloted 8 lug wheels except on the import delivery trucks in the 26,000 GVW range

[@VBELTandSON]

They are factory dodge 17 inch wheels. They require hubs to center them

[@stevenowell]

@@VBELTandSON Thanks, I didn't even think about that. I've never had any first hand experience with the 17s

[@richardbates2367]

That's a sweet clean club cab w250 im guessing a 92-93 truck, and yes I have owned a tin grille 74 dodge club cab adventurer short bed d100 flatbed myself and i would love to get to own a 75 dodge club cab 3/4 ton 4x4 or 2wd long bed in decentish shape would consider 76-79 but would really like to find a automatic gold 75 dodge 3/4 ton club cab long bed truck..

[@jamespeery2115]

Pinion angle has a lot to do with death wobble. Especially with those long shackles they put on there. And the check the king pins to. I would see what stock pinion angle is on a stock truck and you can shim under the leave springs.

[@VBELTandSON]

I found other issues. I doubt the pinion angle is off much at all. I’ve done the same thing with the shackles before and no issue

[@mikerobertson1250]

Those old first gens with a flat bed ❤

[@dirtymax6.649]

Steering box could have play, traction bars,ball joints ,tie rods,drag link anything can cause death wobble

[@VBELTandSON]

All feel super tight with a pry bar

[@brentmcmahon8188]

Locking hubs too .

[@jordangochnour7356]

Bout damn time ol son

[@troylowe8826]

The leaf spring are upside down the top of the leaf spring is supposed to be on the bottom

[@sprucegoose1016]

Thats one sweet pickup 😎👍

[@charlesbeauregard3607]

4 doors for more…… passagers 😅😅😅😂😂😂😂

[@lyndonhamby7432]

Ole Boone said what the heck 😂😂😂😂

[@MontanaGrizzly73]

Change Track Bar, is notorious for the wobble.

[@VBELTandSON]

It doesn’t have one

[@decentgarage]

Love that color combo!!

[@VBELTandSON]

Like a 50 foot paint job

[@decentgarage]

@@VBELTandSON just how I like em!

[@VBELTandSON]

@@decentgarage 😂😂😂

[@tonybuxton5154]

..not saying it is the same problem i had, but may wanna try swapping out the front tires with something else...i have a jeep...always ran BFG KO's....tried some Milestar Patagonia MT's....death wobble disappeared....

[@VBELTandSON]

Yeah I thought the same and tried that. No luck still kinda their

[@Shaddowbanned]

Love your channel man, great content!

[@domanickzacharias1953]

You should see if the first generation will tow your gooseneck trailer

[@richardharvey8939]

Loved it good luck with this one.

[@TruckerShawn94]

Oh snap some first gen action heck yea

[@bobbyjfarms3681]

@6:28. I dont know but I agree with you 😂😂😂

[@VBELTandSON]

😂😂

[@adamknight9248]

I’m drooling

[@lyndonhamby7432]

Kool ole unit Sam 👍👍

[@Taylorhpatrick]

Man I try to save as many as possible, but so folks just won't get rid of them. I know of 3 within 15 miles of me that have been sitting in the same spot for 3-10 years. Issues ranging from leaky injector pump to manual trans issues, and they won't sell them.

[@ClaytonHartin]

Because they just don’t care for the money and doesn’t bother them sitting around

[@matthewweldin7888]

Power seats if you move them by hand, lol.

[@montebarnes8043]

You should try and find a ram 50 and put a 4bt in it

[@raychilcote5558]

I love Cummins motors. But that 4BT is not only too heavy for a 50, it's too tall. How about a TDI? Much lighter, revs higher (would be fun in that little truck), and tuned, can have more HP and torque.

[@lbj808]

Dual stabilizers wouldn’t hurt..👍🏽…Aloha 🤙🏽

[@eeeeedee]

Motors not even broke in yet

[@lucioarreola7339]

Nice 1st Gen has to be manual transmission though my personal opinion.

[@richallan8664]

First gen refers to first generation ram pickup, 81-93.. all previous years were just dodge trucks

[@tylerroberts5704]

Little more wire speed might help that welder. Sounds like it was running out

[@VBELTandSON]

She was flooding out

[@JK-op7bp]

It’s a first gen Cummins but it is a also first gen ram. It gets its name from the body style because it’s the first generation of truck to be called a ram. first gen Cummins is more of a nickname

[@VBELTandSON]

Everything is a nick name. And some nicknames are wrong 🫡

[@brentmcmahon8188]

I bought a new 1992 and it got death wooble and just rotated tires and that that’s all it took. The other thing was tires hydroplaning with Michelin tires not that’s scary as hell and it did it in same place on interstate hiway in passing lane with wet roads and that would scare you to death and it would be in a drift with no noise left front on left edge of road and right on the center line and all you could do is let off the gas and it float right straight again and that would pucker your wires right up your ass !

[@mikerobi6100]

look awesome great video great content

[@amywethey4223]

Upper amd lower balls joint?

[@VBELTandSON]

Solid as can be

[@MOJeepr]

"it feels a little bit better".... until you hit a bump :D

[@Denis-tu1pd]

My 1989 wd250 Cummins ran so rough that you could mix drinks.

[@AcreeConstruction-yl5ld]

Would you be willing to sell a couple interior 2nd gen parts? I need a couple plastic pieces for mine. Thanks

[@VBELTandSON]

Like what?

[@AcreeConstruction-yl5ld]

I need the plastic part that goes around the steering column and the little pull out ash tray.

[@chrisbeck2381]

Do you have it sold yet and how much would you sell it for?

[@VBELTandSON]

Not posted yet. Price will be determined on how much I need to fix on it

[@vladbelonozhko339]

Anotha one!

[@mikestrucks]

Hey everyone 👋🏻

[@michaelmeyers1827]

Yeah kinda

[@phatboizbackyardkustomz9006]

First off wrong dually adapters for a first gen true dually, The packable bearings are inside the dually hubs on a first gen, the adapters on that truck are off al later model truck that has unit bearings and yes I heard you say it was a W250 not a W350 so someone converted it to a dually. Not to say it's wrong use those adapters, should work. and drop shackles ain't really the way to go with a lift on those especially with no support. Normally Death wobble on a early leaf spring dually is caused by bad tie rod ends, track bar bushings, King pins or the drag link. I have had 3 1st gen duallys several Chevys and Fords too in the leaf spring variants The 86 to 97' Fords were the worst for the Death Wobble.

[@VBELTandSON]

Good eye. I thought I covered all of what you said in the video. Maybe I forgot some clips but you’re correct

[@phatboizbackyardkustomz9006]

Love your stuff! Keep up the good work!

[@jayg479]

Dear Darla, 🥵

[@korn111685]

Those are not the right DRW adapters. At least the ones of my 2nd gen had a hub ring to center the wheel bore with flat lug nuts with built in washers.

[@VBELTandSON]

Yeah that’s how it should be for sure

[@OnefastAZfarmtruck]

Do you want another first gen?? Drivable just no reverse

[@VBELTandSON]

Yeah. Where are you located? Email me [e-mail]

[@georgeenriquez612]

Needs a man’s mission

[@eriknelson45]

How you guys drive those rattle traps is beyond me, Duramax with 33s will do 100 one finger, Dodge, crap your pants at 57mph, had to drive a second gen for 220 miles for a buddy, still don't talk to him

[@VBELTandSON]

Guess you don’t know much about this channel

[@cesarconh895]

How do you feel about your Orange Cheeto president being indicted again?

[@VBELTandSON]

Laughable joke.