ATV artist Cymbal - Review

[@65Drums]

Great overview, I really like the way my ATV hihats feel, very high quality. I also have small dents on it, but it's hard to even take a photo of them because of how small they are.

[@Vdrumtips1]

65 Drums Same here, I could not take a photo of them. So they are not very deep.

[@markomarkovic5729]

Didn't know you bought ATV hi-hat. When will the review come out?

[@charliesdrumshed9328]

That’s good I was considering the ride cymbal and the hi hats sound great just picked up a set vh-12 hit second hand I love them much better than my ch 11

[@Vdrumtips1]

Charlie's Drum Shed The VH-12 is very good. I got one too.

[@BobbyDMoore]

65 Drums, do u like the atv hihat or the Roland VH-13 better?

[@bastaudio]

"I increased the sensitivity slightly to make it more sensitive." Seems legit.

[@Vdrumtips1]

Hahaha, yes I figured that "brilliant conclusion", but I did not want to render the video again. I would have made fun about it too:D

[@markomarkovic5729]

Great review! ATV is the new king of the hill regarding e-cymbals

[@Vdrumtips1]

Marko Marković I agree in terms of sizes and variety. The digital triggering is still the best.

[@springgyfit4414]

I’m thinking of buying 2 ATV 18 ride, one for my eDrum and the other for my wife to use as an umbrella lol. This ride is so handy!! Thank you for all of your video. It has really helped me out a lot

[@thetruth156real3]

I wasn’t sure about this gentlemen at first,, but when he said he increased the sensitivity to make it more sensitive,,,it put my mind at rest.

[@KitCatStudio]

great review! Tnx! Do u know how to setup this cymbal with tm6pro module? Will it work right? I don’t know how to setup it and how to use two outputs... should they be routed to the same input in the module? Or two separated ones? And if so, how should I setup trigger functions? Tnx!

[@ProjectBeats_]

Cymbal swell is very nice! Bell sensitivity maybe due to hitting it with stick tip. Maybe try playing bell with shaft/shoulder. I mean that would also give you fuller sound with acoustic ride. 😉 As always very in depth review. Thanks! 🙌🏽 This would be an easy choice if money is no object hehe

[@astronaut2005drummer]

Nice review! Excellent and beautiful kit! And I'm a big fan of your channel. Cheers.

[@Vdrumtips1]

Astronaut2005 Thanks man, yes my Frankenstein Set serves me well:)

[@JamesOKeefe-US]

The ride roll and sound really is amazing. Fantastic review as always!! 👍

[@daletajfrederick9235]

Vdrum tips is the Atv cymbal line compatible with the Yamaha DTX multi 12 as shown in the video 8:47

[@Vdrumtips1]

Dale Frederick Well this pad is just plugged into the line in of the module that’s really it.

[@drummer92192]

For a TD9, can the RDB cable works with it just like a roland cymbal?

[@famitory]

"it is finnaly possible to configure your e-drums to match your acoustic cymbal sizes" [looks over at my 27" sheet metal flat ride]

[@thebaronofsd6293]

so positional sense DOES work - awesome. why did you adjust the mixer to reduce the edge sound level instead of decreasing rim gain on the trigger setting? I'm curious as I have a TD-25 and don't have that mixer setting but do have rim gain. thanks for the review!

[@Vdrumtips1]

rabettle The rim gain controls bell and edge at the same time. I wanted to have a hotter bell but not a hot edge. This is why I decreased the volume for the edge.

[@thebaronofsd6293]

Ahhh - I see hmm. Well I do mostly trigger VST so AD2 I believe has those mixer settings there. Thanks again for the review and the reply!

[@Vdrumtips1]

rabettle Yes, in a VST you have more options, just not sure if you can adjust those things. SD3 can do it, not sure about the rest.

[@MikeSnyderDrums]

Vdrum Tips - the ATV aD5 has separate, individual sensitivity settings for edge and Bell.

[@Vdrumtips1]

Mike Snyder That’s a useful feature. I was a bit disappointed that the TD-30 does not have it.

[@MaltZero]

Great review! You mention the atv has 360 degree triggering. I was considering a CY-15R and presumed the Roland triggering was also 360 degree. Is that not the case?

[@relicboxing]

No its not

[@DirtyJobsGuy1]

A great review! Because of their price, it will be awhile until I can get one, but someday I will have at least one ATV cymbal

[@drumatic2818]

hi sir.. can you make a tutorial video how to hack CY-18DR to compatible with TD30 Module Ride Trigger Input

[@MikeLuke]

Very helpful, thanks for this review. Sooner or later, I'll probably go the ATV way, especially keen to check out their hats. BTW: You are probably the only drummer in the world who is concerned about the looks of an e-cymbal underneath ;)

[@Vdrumtips1]

Mike Luke I think there is no way around in terms of cymbals:) Well the bottom side is a factor too. The audience will see it.

[@vulcanprincess1584]

would a different material for the heads of the drumsticks be something worth experimenting with? i figure if they're using different materials for the heads of the drums and cymbals, why not use a different material for the sticks as well? altho i suppose its good to have a constant across both acoustic and electronic drums, which regular sticks provide. although perhaps a certain type of material for a drumstick in combination with the materials of electronic drumheads would actually provide a more authentic feel, instead of trying to get the feel out of only the heads and cymbals, if that makes sense.

[@Vdrumtips1]

No, that would not change anything.

[@itsyaboilem3887]

HELP, i just got my ATV China...and when i connect it to my Roland TD-17KV, it sound so weak...i tried to adjust the volume even adjusting the volume for the specific cymbal but its still weak..HELP PLEASE

[@drageben145]

I'm thinking of converting an acoustic drumkit i have i'm thinking of using triggera intrigg triggers, Remo silentstroke, this cymbal, triggera d14 china and modules, cymbals (cy8) and called i have also buying extra stands for china and ride and using the goedrum hihat controller

[@Vdrumtips1]

drageben Not a fan of silent strokes, they are very bouncy, the intriggs are ok, the rest of your listed gear should work. What module?

[@drageben145]

Vdrum Tips td 11

[@drageben145]

Vdrum Tips i just figurer out i had enough money for the real feel heads AS well

[@danielsan7899]

What a cool electronic drumset you have. One of the coolest Ive ever seen

[@Vdrumtips1]

Mysterious musician / Músico misterioso Thanks:) It is probably one of the cost effective ones as well. There is a lot of DIY and second hand gear involved.

[@Rushfan74]

Can you do a review with this new ride cymbal, this module and a VST and how it responds please?

[@Vdrumtips1]

Rushfan2112 The ride just responds as good as a CY-15 to any VST. Overall it feels better cause of the size. Your brain is getting tricked into thinking it is a real ride a bit more:)

[@Rushfan74]

Awesome! Thanks for your response.

[@martymet]

Excellent review! Do we know when the 10", 12" and China will be released?

[@Vdrumtips1]

martymet It was supposed to be in October 2018.

[@martymet]

Perfect. Thanks again for your videos. Vdrum Tips and 65Drums have been great at helping me understand how to put together a conversion. Again, thanks for all your help!

[@angelaberglund4857]

Can you do a cy 13r vs cy 15 video just like the vh 11 12 13 high hat video

[@Vdrumtips1]

There is not much to say about that. Except the CY-15 triggers better and is bigger.

[@johndef5075]

Cy 15 is very nice. I have 2 cy12s as crash. They are nice but you have to be precise because the sweet spot is small. 13 may be similar.

[@Servantofthesin]

Hi ! I'm really insterested by this awesome e-cymbal, in terms of size, feeling and sensitivity. But do you know if it will be compatible with the alesis trigger IO module i'm using ?

[@Servantofthesin]

UP

[@imwatchinya]

Good review bud! I have the atv cymbal set & after using "Mothers VLR" there is very little stains/marks when i play.

[@Vdrumtips1]

imwatchinya What is “Mothers VLR” ? :D

[@imwatchinya]

It's a vinyl, leather & rubber protectant. I have used it on all my roland/atv cymbals, but if you get 2nd hand black roland cymbals you cannot make it look new, this stuff (i think) needs to be applied before bashing the hell out of them :) www.amazon.co.uk/Mothers-VLR-Vinyl-Leather-Rubber/dp/B004N63S9W

[@Vdrumtips1]

imwatchinya Oh ok, I am using Dr. Keddo and it does make the Roland cymbals look like new. Not sure about the other cleaners. Sometimes they have chemicals that smell or are made for cars.

[@MikeSnyderDrums]

I suggest just using a damp microfiber cloth, that’s all. The silicone rubber cleans up very well.

[@relicboxing]

This is what atv recommends www.drum-tec.com/protectolan-cymbal-cleaner-and-protection-100-ml?gclid=Cj0KCQiAhojzBRC3ARIsAGtNtHWLCZXdUKQEZYscjDLEJWCbQIgK4QmHwYquLi7my2cUUHqTmUcSJ0QaAqsJEALw_wcB

[@yannickmuller9330]

Do you use the Audio Technica ATH M50x? I'm searching for good Headphones for my Roland td 25...:)

[@stevenkipping7896]

I asked this question on another site so sorry about the multiple post and maybe this question is rhetorical but… I am interested in replacing my Roland CY-15R (I’m having some limited triggering issues - it works but not perfect). The ATV AD-C18 sounds like it should be first on my list. However I am very space limited. Therefore I’m considering the 16-inch cymbal. I have a couple questions: 1.) Except for size does the 16” perform the same or very similar to the 18”?2.) It’s been noted elsewhere that ATV’s sizes are a bit exaggerated (i.e., 18-inch is actually 17 ¾” or less, 16-inch 15 ¾”). I checked my Roland CY-12C, CY-13R, & CY-15R cymbals and each of them is exactly as Roland states - namely 12”, 13” and 15”. Can anyone verify if ATV actually exaggerates their cymbal sizes? If so, to me that really says something about integrity. I’m still very interested just disappointed in overstatements.

[@Vdrumtips1]

Steven Kipping The 16” Version performs equally well. Just not sure if it is worth it to upgrade from 15” to 16”. That is half an inch in terms of radius. But on the other side, the ATV cymbal might be nicer.

[@stevenkipping7896]

Yes, my thoughts exactly. Now I'm not really upgrading but replacing my bit faulty 15" Roland. For an extra $50, it probably makes more sense to go with the 18" (17-1/2") right away.Again, thanks for your reply....

[@vulcanprincess1584]

Does the cymbal sound different if you pre-choke it (hold it while hitting it)?

[@Vdrumtips1]

no

[@sicarius1310]

What is the mark of the arms who hold the roland's cymbal ? Can we install the arms on the TD-25kv roland's drum ? Thanks 🤘

[@Vdrumtips1]

Yes, but you need a different washer. You cannot use the Roland Rotation stopper. I installed mine on a Roland mount aswell.

[@MarkuzP66]

Nice. Review Marcel! It matches my personal experience with my atv kit 100%. At the moment my ATV Ride is sent back to drumtec because the bow trigger is not working after six month of use:-( Hopefully this is not the common case....

[@Vdrumtips1]

MarkuzP66 That is unfortunate, I hope you get a replacement. You are the second guy that mentions a flaw. I would be interested in a statistic:) I hope mine while last. I love the cymbal.

[@MarkuzP66]

Could you keep the test sample :-)?

[@Vdrumtips1]

Yes, which is great, as I can do a long-term test as well. Maybe another review after 1 year.

[@leetray]

The only problem I have had with mine is that the bell has become disconnected on the inside and I can't get the crews back in. also the choke doesn't work anymore after about 9 months or so

[@Vdrumtips1]

Wow, have you contacted ATV? Can you send me an email with a picture to [e-mail]

[@leetray]

@@Vdrumtips1 I will send you a quick picture. I will make a quick video to show you what is happening with the sensors. Thanks man!!

[@jamdee9844]

Leider falsch Info, da 18er roland ist nicht nur mit dem td50 spielbar. Unter anderem spielbar mit dem td27

[@springgyfit4414]

What are your thoughts on NFUZED Audio?

[@springgyfit4414]

And also what do u think of the jobecky e-cymbals?

[@Vdrumtips1]

I do not think it is great, else more people would use it. The reviews that I found are also not very good. So I would not buy it.

[@Vdrumtips1]

I think they look great, however, there are no metal e-cymbals that work swell as Roland or ATV cymbals, they cannot be adjusted well enough in some modules and their life time is usually limited. The only module that handles them well is the pearl mimic. I personally would not buy them, but there are a lot of people that like them.

[@jonathanoneill7260]

Great review, really thorough

[@bmealer]

Great review!

[@jimmydunn2231]

How is the cymbal holding up my friend???

[@Vdrumtips1]

Jimmy Dunn Good so far, the dents are still barely visible. There seems to be a small death zone on an edge spot. But it is not disturbing for me. I guess it is better with the newer generation of cymbals, mine is from the first.

[@relicboxing]

Do you mean deadzone? As in sensor dead spot where it won't trigger?

[@TTGBUNKER]

I was waiting on this! Thanks.

[@silhy37]

Or even as an umbrella!!!! 🤣🤣🤣☂️

[@demonocusmetalocus3558]

Very good review

[@drumprogresserater]

Hey, I was wondering whether i should buy a atv exs kit that hasnt been released as they are going for around £1500, or get the artist series ones? How do atv compare to roland top range?

[@iforgothowtotype]

Do they have a similar hi-hat? I hate electronic hi-hats

[@Vdrumtips1]

From ATV? No, but they make their own hi-hats. Why do you hate them?

[@iforgothowtotype]

Vdrum Tips The hi-hat is the cymbal I'm most sensitive to, and every single electronic hi-hat I've played hurts my soul.

[@LeToplache007]

Trash .Boat they have a 14 inch hi hat with the most zones on the market (3 zones)

[@Vdrumtips1]

Trash .Boat Have you played a VH-13 on a TD-50?

[@andrewdelrusso4951]

Great video, and man that ride looks awesome. Wish it wasn’t so expensive tho 😕

[@Vdrumtips1]

Andrew Del Russo Yes, it comes at a price...

[@vulcanprincess1584]

wish yamaha made their silicone pads more cross-compatible with other equipment :(

[@poptartdrumstudios7600]

Wish I had the money and space to have this on my TD17KV 😔

[@DrKFC69]

I can’t wait til China cymbal comes out

[@Vdrumtips1]

ColdfacekillerJr CFK Me neither, it is a 17” one. Really cool that they are making these.

[@MikeSnyderDrums]

ColdfacekillerJr CFK - Should be available towards the end of July, I am told.

[@drageben145]

It's about 4000 nok about 400 euro on thomann

[@joaodepaula]

NIce Man!

[@tobytoxd]

Thank you much!! :)

[@AtTheSourceStudios]

Wow haha we released similar vids on the same day lol great work man. I really appreciate the more scientific approach in your vids. Now I will check for dents lol I don't think I have any?

[@Vdrumtips1]

SiREN2173 Yes, that was coincidence. I worked on the video for 3 weeks and we released at the same day. Yes, I would be interested in knowing this. BTW. Your Strike Review was great too, not a fan of the set but I still liked your review and of course the look of your set.

[@mattdrewdrums]

It's funny. You rarely see high end e-drum sets being played by actual good drummers because the only people that can afford them are the ones with full-time careers...and they never have time to practice.

[@alejandroalvarez5035]

A new vid!!!

[@mikeysplayhouse1971]

Kit toys for the win!

[@Vdrumtips1]

Aubrey Rex You mean the kit toys cymbals?

[@mikeysplayhouse1971]

Yes

[@Vdrumtips1]

Aubrey Rex They come out every now and then. It is cool that they exist, but they do not really fit my design taste. Never played one though.

[@mikeysplayhouse1971]

Vdrum Tips Hiw can you say they don’t fit your design taste then? I have two chinas and two splashes. They look and feel like the real thing. How does that fit anyone’s design taste. I hate the one size fits all plate triggers.

[@Vdrumtips1]

Aubrey Rex I double checked them. Well I am not sure if I can see them as a really product, they are only made sometimes. I guess they work ok as splash and china. Not saying they look bad, but they look a bit DIY like. But I saw the guy managed to stop them from rotating is that right?

[@fernyisaleper88]

Umbrella 😂😂😂😂

[@purpledc1]

I honestly would not accept a denting cymbal even if it was still working fine afterwards. I mean, If I buy a very expensive electric car and Tesla told me that my car dents a hell of a lot easier than other teslas, but not to worry, other customers are getting perfect products and that my car still works well otherwise, id run him over with the thing while simultaneously asking if they are fucking crazy. Now, if ATV let you keep that cymbal and that helped influence your decision to shift your perception that's fine. I cant fault you. I don't see it as a bribe or you compromising for the sake of a product sample. such gestures go a long way to change a persons perception of a company if not the product itself in some way. If you had to send the cymbal back and simply got to experience that cosmetically defective gear can still work properly most of us know that. But we shouldn't have to accept it simply because that is the case. Defective is defective whether cosmetic or not. It boils down to this. The cymbal is designed to be hit, and hit often right? right. It only effects a small margin of people right? right. And they admit the majority of this product don't suffer this odd effect. But ATV wants a pass because its not all of them and its only cosmetic? Sorry. Not swallowing that pill no matter how much sugar is on it. Now if ATV is replacing every single cymbal with a different unit free from this anomaly then I'm all good with it. They can sell the defects as factory second B stock. What they cant do is put a candy shell on a piece of shit and convince me its an M&M.

[@Vdrumtips1]

First of all, thanks for your opinion and that you took the time to write it all down. I get your point, why should one have dents while the others don't? I am very sure that you would get a replacement in that case. I am not in that position, as I got it for free, besides, I see it as an experiment. Let's see how it looks in half a years time. Your idea of selling the affected cymbals as B-stock is very good. I will try to carry it on to ATV. The thing is, the cymbals are still very good in every other aspect, apparently so good that they are still worth it with the dents. That's the thing. Besides, there is nothing else on the market at that level. Some people accept it, for others, it is a deal breaker. You are the type that does not accept it and believe me, I feel you bro:D I am like this regarding the Alesis Strike Pro. The kit cost only cost 1500$ and I would not buy it, as I am still not happy with the quality. The question is where you place this border between accepting and not accepting.

[@purpledc1]

I think my only concern is that when you pay a premium for a product, I just think everyone should be entitled to the same quality level even if it doesn't effect the playing. I just hope they don't say that its only cosmetic and deny warranty on such a thing. That of course, is nothing within your control. Have a good one.

[@kunns123]

What is this, bad unboxing?

[@koreanfriedchildren]

ATV is made by Roland

[@cemguler183]

ATV edges don't trigger properly...comparing this to CY-18 and favouring ATV for some irrelevant reasons must be a joke...CY-18 is the only cymbal in the market that can trigger the bell only with your finger at 1 velocity...and you are praising this extremely expensive faulty product..did they give you the cymbal for free ?

[@Vdrumtips1]

Cem Güler You cannot compare the analoge ATV-C18 cymbal with Rolands digital ride. After all one is digital and the other one is analoge. I like this cymbal for what it is and if you would have watched the full video, you would not ask that question.