VeggieTales Is Dangerous | Ep. 246

[@actmrhata5079]

I understand, but disagree. I watched veggie-tales, but I never got my doctrine or theology from them. They are a safe show for kids to watch, which is rare. We talk with our daughter about the difference between the story and the Bible and I’ve never found it to be an issue. I COMPLETELY agree that your kids should not be getting their Christianity from any show. Including veggietales.

[@stephenthompson3309]

I was raised the same way. Veggietales and scripture, understanding and looking for the differences between them.

[@sdastoryteller3381]

DUDE! What Veggietales were you watching Literally Moe And the Big Exit, Esther: The Girl who became Queen and Rack Shack and Benny, all hightlight God as the motivating power in their lives. Moe tried it his way and he made things worse but letting God lead he led his people out of slavery. Esther literally spent a good portion singing about how the Battle isn't ours and we look to God for strength, and bravery. Finally Rack shack and Benny the reason to "Stand" was because idolarty demands you to bow. Idk, if you've reached the conclusion this series isn't good for you and your spiritual walk, or that of your children. That's fine. It's just media, and can never compare to scripture. I just want you not to imagine there's something nefarious going on that isn't.

[@VeggieTalesUnofficial]

Clearly VeggieTales went over their heads.

[@stephenthompson3309]

I'm one of those ignorant heretics who believes that God has a sense of humor.

[@niahart8028]

Exactly! Esther literally spent the middle of the entire episode trying to teach us a valuable lesson in her song singing The battle is not ours She was teaching us that God would always be there with us fighting by our side and Rack shack and Benny literally said in the middle of their episode before they got thrown in the furnace saying that God wanted them to do what was right

[@theamericanlife1111]

VeggieTales is all about helping people learn about God while still being entertained. I do think you should teach your kids scripture rather than only show them VeggieTales. Remember, Sunday mornings values, Saturday morning fun!

[@frankiehols8838]

Maybe you don't have a water buffalo? Archibald warned us this might happen.

[@VeggieTalesUnofficial]

W

[@Suecaroline7]

Yes I agree! I’m a fan of Superbook.

[@bethanyriddle7039]

Same!! The way they take the Bible stories seriously and illustrate them makes my husband and I cry sometimes! It’s good!

[@Hadassah635]

Yes, I love Superbook too!

[@emilykateperkins]

I love you guys and I’ve enjoyed hearing your perspective on so much but I have to say- you lost me on this one. I wouldn’t use veggie tales as the definitive biblical teaching for kids but what a blessing it is to have such a fun and engaging launch pad to stimulate interest (and further study) of these stories. I have so much respect for your family and your faith and I’ll continue to listen but this is a few steps too far for my family. We’re stickin with the water buffalo.

[@marcdebruler4506]

My opinion is the same! So enjoy your podcast and your great conversations! But we do enjoy The Pirates Who Don’t Do Anything 😂

[@frankiehols8838]

Maybe they don't have a water buffalo and they're salty about it. Archibald warned us this might happen

[@rockymountainhomesteadangela]

​@frankiehols8838 😂 Love your comment. And love VeggieTales!

[@SheSharpNotFlat]

New subscriber here 💁🏽‍♀️. I can totally relate to the feeling of uncomfortability when watching Veggie Tales with my kids. I saw the silliness and inaccuracy but thought it’s still “better” than other cartoons. However, after watching this I’m cutting the playlist out completely because this confirms that what I felt was grief from the Holy Spirit. Thank you for sharing!

[@ashleighoverturf3599]

I have finally found Sunday School curriculum that doesn't water down the Bible. Answers in Genesis! My kids love it and are getting so much more out of SS.

[@Sarah-psalm127]

A great resource for young kids is a book called leading little ones to God. Doesnt talk down to them and really teaches them what they need to know. I'll have to check out answers in Genesis for Sunday school. Thanks.

[@melindaedgington9925]

I would not recommend answers in Genesis.

[@realtalkwithrebecca8526]

​@@melindaedgington9925 do you mind explaining why? I'm interested in hearing all perspectives for our own children's sakes. We have heard wonderful things about answers in Genesis but don't know much more than that.

[@melindaedgington9925]

@@realtalkwithrebecca8526 I find Answers in Genesis seems to place God in a box. They say "This is how it went" and "It must have happened this way". I think God is bigger than that. I mean God may have done it that way but he also may not have. Science says the earth is very very old. God created science. We need to just always keep our eyes on Jesus and be unified even in our differences.

[@rachelclare1398]

While I understand the points… I can’t help but wonder, how can you be OK with 7 brides for 7 brothers (which I saw as an adult and thought was totally inappropriate!), but not with cartoon versions of Bible stories? I just wonder if it’s inconsistent to lower our standards for secular media, but reject Christian content for lesser offenses.

[@HEATHERFREE2486]

I haven’t watched 7 brides for 7 brothers yet but the parents guide didn’t list anything that set my alerts off, what’s inappropriate in it?

[@mktay2067]

Altering biblical truths is more a risk for me than secular stuff being secular 🤷

[@rachelclare1398]

@@mktay2067 that’s fair, I don’t see the re-telling the stories with vegetables as altering the truth though. Adding humor? Yes. But I’m not convinced that that’s worse than secular movies depicting sin in a lighthearted or crude manner. That’s just how I see it though. I get that there’s room for disagreement.

[@rachelclare1398]

@@HEATHERFREE2486 the brothers decide they want wives, so they ride into town at night and kidnap girls from their bedrooms and bring them to the mountains, and, erm, marry them.

[@theswampstead559]

@@rachelclare1398 I agree with both of you. We don't watch either, watered down Bible teachings or anything secular that condones sin in any way (murder, sex outside of marriage/fornication, etc).

[@tammycovington3288]

That’s exactly why I also don’t let my children watch veggie tales… They have made the Bible more entertaining than the seriousness about God’s word. It is comical which is fine but when it comes to God you have to keep God’s word in its original context to live a holy life. I thought I was the only one that felt this way.. Thanks for sharing… we really have to have discernment when teaching our children about Jesus. Don’t take down on your beliefs Brother and Sister. Good Content 🙌👏🙌🙂👊👍 #holy #bible

[@lonegamers7826]

Yeah… maybe I could see that they definitely could have given God the glory more. But talking about the percentage of millennials that have fallen away and maybe they were raised around veggies tales and not as strong in their foundation because of it… And when I hear my toddlers singing the Thankful Song(madam blueberry), or the one time we were caving and my 4 year old was whispering “God is bigger than the boogie man…” to me it’s worth it.

[@Ella_Vande]

This was very interesting. I grew up on Veggie Tales myself and always would compare and contrast it with the biblical accounts, even as a child. I think it made me look harder at what I was being told about the Bible by others because I could see where they didn’t match up. It actually taught me not to blindly trust someone or something just because it’s “Christian.” I was introduced to it when I was a bit older (like 6-7) though and had already been taught the truth. Maybe that helped in my case. I do think that’s an important skill to pass on to my children, so we have watched Veggie Tales, (my children have since lost interest) but we also discussed it after, just like every other thing we watch and listen to.

[@roxyperson8328]

Thanks for talking on this!! We don’t do veggie tales but a lot of other people around us do. There have been times where caring people around us have popped on a veggie tales for my kids when we visit or when they watch my kids thinking it’s “Christian” it’s fine. We tend to not make a deal out of it with other people but we talk to our kids about why we don’t like veggie tales. We explain that the aunt or Christian babysitter loves them and thought they were doing good for them. I wish more people would think things through, but I am so thankful for the grace God gives all of us.

[@mollyrecchia6445]

I grew up watching veggietales and have been hesitant to allow my kids to watch it because of many of these same thoughts. You both make some great points! Thanks for sharing.

[@realtalkwithrebecca8526]

Wow! I feel personally reprimanded aka convicted! 😅 Thank you for taking the time to talk through this. We have been huge veggie tales watchers, and proud, for years! We do not have a tv in our home but we do have a dvd player that came with our vehicle. We bought the DVDs to watch during long trips. We have been those "we love that it gets the message across without being too serious" parents. We are always looking for more ways to strengthen our walk with the Lord, as well as our children's walk... This is huge! Thank you again. ❤

[@TheStyleMarket]

I’ve never thought about veggie tales in this way, but listening I feel very convicted. Definitely going to have a conversation with my husband about it. Thank you for sharing this 🙏🏼

[@VeggieTalesUnofficial]

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[@NintegaDario]

These people haven't watched enough VeggieTales to know how educational it is, as someone who knows Phil Vischer, the creator, Bob and Larry's purpose is to show the audience how much God loves them.

[@AlyssaHartwick]

I’m so glad to hear that I’m not alone in this opinion. Sometimes I feel so alone because my husband grew up watching something in particular, such as veggie tales in this case, and for him it’s partially “great” because it’s nostalgic. His parents also love it and talk about the funny songs. I don’t want my kids to watch it but I often feel like it’s mama vs. everyone else. Sometimes I give in because I get worn down. Perhaps now your video will give me some oomph to oppose it. Thank you, guys!

[@KalleSchrader]

Hi Alyssa! I can't offer much advice, but just want to say that I'm praying for you. My husband and I didn't always think that children were capable of hearing and learning God's truth. We thought we needed to bring things down to their level. After homeschooling in the Charlotte Mason way, and growing as Christians we now see what a disservice we were doing to our children. They are capable, actually, in dire need of God's word. Not a dumbed down version that only teaches the ways of folly and that Jesus is a friend to all. I could say so much more about this 😅

[@Sarah-psalm127]

We watch the silly songs and the non Bible related veggie tales. I don't like doing the Bible stories because when we come to that part in the Bible my kids relate it to veggie tales. It seems to take precedence over the actual Bible story. The other ones are fun though. Maybe a compromise like that?

[@theswampstead559]

@@KalleSchrader very true! They don't have a "junior" holy spirit inside of them. :)

[@adriannarogers7703]

I highly recommend Theo cartoons! Teaches morals and history without any fluff.

[@jessicabrown6943]

Yes! Theo is amazing. Such a wholesome show. ❤

[@bygraceonly182]

Amen! LOVE THEO.

[@mckenzie2260]

Completely agree. We have disavowed Veggie Tales in our home as well, despite me being raised on it. Good on you.

[@laurabrune5930]

Yes and amen! I never saw a problem with veggietales until I had little kids of my own, then the decision to watch it just seem to contradict everything I was working to instill in their lives, so I just left it on the shelf. Superbook, however, has impressed me so much and I have very high hopes for the new David movie!!

[@scottmccracken5003]

Your perspective seems indicative of two larger perspectives in much (not all) of evangelicals: a disdain for redemptive imagination and a disregard for the way children learn that is different than the way adults learn.

[@clairepeterson9196]

100% agree about Veggietales. Thanks for this episode!

[@MaryPoe-t3q]

Thankyou, I needed this today, you both put into words all my jumbled thoughts.

[@KalleSchrader]

Thoroughly enjoyed this episode. My husband and I agree 100%. We are very selective in what “Christian” resources we consume. We steer clear from Bible storybooks for the very same reason (and a 2nd commandment conviction but no judgement to anyone who doesn’t land there). God’s word is a gift. It’s how we get to know who He is and what He desires of us, and it’s Holy. So to take it, wash it down to the same level of Mickey Mouse, and cheapen-sometimes outright remove the theological principles is disrespectful and is such a disservice to our children. Families went to church for centuries without things like kids church, Sunday school, and veggie tales. Any you know what? They were just fine. Bible storybooks weren’t a thing either. Our fellow Christians who came before us held the Bible in such great reverence. They knew is was perfect and right for teaching as is. There was no need to dumb it down for children. But that also goes along with the problem of “kids” material today. We too are a Charlotte Mason family. We pursue truth, goodness, and beauty. While we read wonderful books filled with tales of great heroes, or stories like Wind in the Willows, we make a clear distinction that the Bible is different. It isn’t like the stories and books created by man for the purpose of entertainment. We don’t want our children to look at Jesus as some character in a story who is good and kind. Jesus is of course good. He is the only truly good man to ever walk this earth. However, Jesus isn’t just that. He is the Son of God. Our children have to understand who Jesus is and why He did what He did before they can ever truly believe in Him. But that also goes along with the statistic you shared about millennials who have deconstructed their faith and left the church. They trusted in a false ideology, had an incorrect understanding of Christ and what it means to be a Christian. So of course it isn’t a saving faith! Honestly I could say a whole lot more 😅 I would love to chat with you about this more Kate, but I totally understand if chatting with a stranger on the internet isn’t for you 😂 Thanks again guys!

[@danielandemilyfreeman576]

You've given me so much to think about here. Thank you! ❤

[@KalleSchrader]

@@danielandemilyfreeman576 you’re welcome! I’m so glad my rambling can spur some thoughtful consideration 😅

[@ruthfowler540]

I saw the title to this podcast and was a bit shocked since I grew up watching veggietales. I figured I’d listen to your argument against it and I’m glad I did. You both made some great points and have really thought it out. I appreciate how intentional you both are with how you raise your kids and what you expose them to.

[@ashlieleavelle]

I personally am not super for or against. I would let my daughter watch it. It is something for kids that isn't LGBT. So many shows for littles have ungodly morals. Veggie takes isn't perfect, but it isn't bad. It definitely just scratches the Bible stories. Little kids enjoy it. With so much junk for littles, Veggie Tsles, to me...isn't a hill to die on.

[@fashionista4000]

I agree .. I don't find this dangerous for babies to watch. As kids get older and can understand more increase their knowledge with the real deal scripture. But while my babies are small I'd rather have their eyes on something lively and colorful that does at least keep actual dangerous worldly things out of it.

[@lauralindell3177]

I agree with this so much! Kids don’t need all the graphic details of some of the stories right off the bat, but they can handle truth a lot better than we tend to give them credit for.

[@garlandofbooks4494]

I agree with so much of this. Grew up while veggie tales was celebrated, but we choose not to show it to our children. Yes to it cheapening scripture, and to low and cheap art, and yes to children deserving the best or art and literature rather than twaddle and condescension and on “their level”! Plus - Knowing what I know now, I wouldn’t show anything created by Phil Vischer with them anyways.

[@chayafaith710]

This is interesting cause i never saw a problem with Veggie tales, Im a Jewish Believer of Yeshua and was raised with veggie tales. Im a big advocate of not mixing Holy things with the unholy and so i dont celebrate christmas due to its pagen roots but like you said having your children watch something not religious at all is almost better as the kids can clearly recognize its not what they believe. I wonder though if watching them as more an assignment like you read the story from scripture first then have them watch it and have them write a list of the things that arent accurate that way they can learn to seperate things that do look like truth from things that are mixed with thruth. I remember my dad doing this with us kids and it definitly makes you question alot of what you watch "christian" or not.

[@SpreadHisLight]

I 100% agree with! You have stated it beautifully. We all must ask ourselves when is it ever okay to make the Word of God laughable? Is it okay to having have any senseless interruptions that distracts a child from the Word?

[@katiekawaler929]

I appreciate this podcast for the good for thought. I'm in the boat of "I grew up with it, so it must be fine", but this has opened up my eyes for my own kids. Definitely is not to be the only "Christianity" our kids are taking in, because we are told to raise them for Him who is ABOVE ALL. Maybe good for 3 year olds and then abandoned for the rest of the time.

[@katiekawaler929]

*food for thought

[@nelyal181]

Good point. At first I was surprised and super intrigued when you mentioned that you don’t approve of Veggie Tales. But as soon as you started talking about it, I totally remembered that I also got that vibe while watching it with the kids once. That they take everything too lightly (including God Himself). Plenty of other biblical cartoons out there, there’s not much to lose. :)

[@daniellenicohl6343]

Couldn't agree more! It is interesting that we would NEVER do that with other serious events in history. Take the Nazi's and what they did to the Jews. We wouldn't create Hiti the Hamburger who punishes the Jews by making them perpetually chop onions and cry. Great episode!

[@catgeel264]

That's SUCH a great comparison, it puts it in a whole different light for me, thank you!!

[@lelamaciolek1166]

This was a great discussion. Even Jesus used stories about “certain” people. “A certain rich man” etc. He used real serious stories.

[@bethanyriddle7039]

I was just telling my kids the other day that I didn’t like how the new veggie tales told the Noah story and I turned it off!! We watch Superbook. I know some people don’t like Superbook but my husband and I love them and cry sometimes watching how they recreate the Bible stories.

[@Rachel-eh3oc]

It was always my understanding that vegetales was more Christain based. But i COMPLETELY agree with the way vegetales makes light of certain Bible stores. I recently became uninterested in my toddlers watching it. I cannot stand the way they will tell a story like the one of Moses or David and Goliath, and they use other names that are similar to the main characters. Its like. Okay, if i want my children to learn about these stories, i want them to be direct so my children will learn the stories accurately. I believe it to be confusing for the children also.

[@laurenberkompas]

Katie! I know exactly what you're talking about. Our Family Christian Book Store also had a little "hideout" place for kids to go watch movies like Veggie Tales when I was little. Personally, I completely agree with you guys. I remember seeing some Veggie Tales episodes when I was pretty young, and I later felt frustrated trying to recall Bible stories and always having those dumb Veggie Tales stories, characters, and songs come to mind instead. Even as a middle and high schooler I wished I hadn't seen them!

[@beccaholland3602]

just starting this episode and SO happy y'all made it! I grew up on veggie tales and haven't thought about them since I was 7 but after your last episode I've been wondering what was wrong with it! I respect y'alls so much and am excited to hear it!

[@ilovejesus533]

Thanks for explaining about veggie tales, do you have any resources for a good read aloud bible for toddlers?

[@HR-rm1dw]

Thank you for covering this topic! ❤

[@TheCathyWAFFLE]

Apparently Trent Horn holds a similar opinion. Thinking by the end of this I will have another shelf free for more books 😊

[@ruthywil]

Superbook and other “Christian Cartoons “ have the same issue. Thank you for addressing this topic.

[@abrownie19]

This reminds me of the Ark Encounter. Ken Ham had a whole display made of how Noah’s Ark children’s books and toys are dangerous because it paints a beautiful picture of a cute little boat with animals and happy people. As opposed to the reality of all humanity was wiped out, they were evil, and the ark was huge. It was a perspective I hadn’t heard before. It’s true that the reverence, seriousness of the matter and strong morality is taken out. And I’m sorry with the world we’re living in, why not show a stronger faith, strong reverence to God, and respect for HIS word.

[@hannahthehomesteader]

My toddler was really interested in the story of Jericho so I tried to find a visual story of it so he could just see what the wall looked like, etc. For some reason, I clicked on Veggie Tales. I really regretted it. I turned it off because he was so confused about why the story didn't match and what was going on with the crazy slushies. It made no sense and was not recognizable as what we'd just read in the Bible. I decided then that we'd never watch it again. If you dilute the gospel to attract people to it, there will be no gospel left when people decide to believe.

[@Bonnieuxful]

You’re making some very good points, Yeshua does say not to add or take away words in His Word❣️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻✡️

[@amandav9753]

New to all of this with my children. What exact Bible do you guys read to your children? We have no idea where to start. Thank you

[@gabriellaruhlman6688]

How old are your kids?

[@herhomebook]

They’re KJV

[@Maverick-zy7yu]

Excited to hear your take on veggie tales! Ive put it on once for my kids and couldn’t handle the way the characters spoke and sound. Didnt put it on again lol

[@RCGWho]

Good points. I felt the same way about the cheesy children's Bible I was reading to my toddlers. I made the mistake of not either just reading the the actual Bible regardless of their comprehension of it OR getting a picture Bible like Egermeier or Hurlbut's Story of the Bible that Elisabeth elliot grew up on. Interestingly, my children's favorite Bible video was Elijah and the Prophets of baal which is intense. They also loved The 10 Commandments which my oldest son loves to this day. I have always wondered why we treat children like they are dumb and need ridiculous entertainment like Raffi music in the 90s, Teletubbies, Disney and Barney. Yet I caved and let my children watch the nonsense.

[@Sarah-psalm127]

Leading little ones to God is a great book that teaches the basics of the Bible theology directed for little kids but not dumbed down at all.

[@frochoffthebranch]

It is indeed dangerous because what has the enemy always done? Twisted the Word as he and his minions know it better than most Christians. What did he say to Chava? Did God ‘really’ say you will die? You won’t surely die… So although the show is “fun”, when you are basing something off the Bible it is like nothing else on earth in that you must be so careful to represent the true intent and heart of God. We are very impressionable, especially as children, so these false variations of Yah’s Word actually serve to distort a child’s understanding of who the Father is like you guys have talked about here. Great podcast, thanks for taking the time to make it. Often the enemy takes over in small, subtle ways rather than overtly evil ways, especially with those proclaiming the faith.

[@cortneyruiz]

Thank you so much for doing this episode! I loved it! Lots of food for thought. Our family has watched a few of the non-Biblical shows done by Veggietales, but only one of the Bible based ones, namely Noah’s Ark. I remember thinking that I didn’t feel quite comfortable with the invented, additional subtext story lines within the larger story. In my opinion, you presented a solid case against VT at least in relation to the Bible episodes. Thanks!

[@Sarah-psalm127]

That's how I've approached it. I haven't felt good about the Bible stories all though we did watch some with our older kids. But the kids have sometimes watched silly songs and the non biblical stories. Those are fun.

[@asawade10]

Truth 78 does an excellent job with every story pointing to Christ and His glory alone! @truth78

[@lavendersbluefarm7738]

I don’t think it’s a problem for like toddlers but if they are going to deviate so much then why not just do fun little moral lessons? You had a great point there. You have me convinced because the other day the kids watch VeggieTales episode, and it was different from the story that they knew, and was confusing to them. I didn’t think of that much of the time, but upon seeing this episode, you had me convinced.

[@laurens8623]

I'm not sure God wants out kids watching martial art films from Eastern religions either. That entices them to involve with their gods, spirits etc

[@euodiasaw1412]

Loved this one! Thanks for not being afraid of being controversial haha I hadn't linked this with vegetales as we don't watch it but totally agree using Christian stories and teaching just morals and omitting God is more dangerous than purely secular shows that doesn't at all claim to be christian. Christianity isn't moralism

[@mrs.jaywojo5426]

I love verse 16: 16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, *we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.* 17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. 18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.

[@CSmith-ph1fg]

Excellent perspective, considering Jesus our Lord and Savior sacrificed His crown to redeem us. Growing up with Scripture's truth vs. Disney's anthropomorphism led me to a shattered life and unstable faith. By God's grace He is transforming my heart and mind to live in Christ's merit alone.

[@siarrahkallai]

My 19 year old sister literally thought that people from Nineveh slapped each other with fish. Watched a lot of Jonah I guess. 🙈😳

[@beccacarson116]

Loving all your content recently! ❤

[@CharityBergamasco-ig7zi]

Love you guys! You have been such a blessing to my family & me! A question I have is, when you have had your kids in the main service, are there any particular things you have had to take your kids out for? I’m asking because, for instance, our pastor many times uses visuals such as short clips of bible scenes. This can include Jesus and Peter walking on water when it’s storming, Jesus crucifixion, etc. (also, figure I would mention, We are a screen free home as well). What would be your thoughts on what you would allow your child to see or experience/not experience? Our oldest is 2.5 years old. Thank you 🤍

[@ruthywil]

Please make a video about how to answer difficult question to kids. When I was teaching my 5 yo daughter she asked me what adultery is. I tried to explain but she keeps asking about that after King David and Bathsheba’s sin. She wasn’t to know.

[@DogOneIsOpen]

Even as a teen I had a deep down feeling that something was off with the show. Yes, some of the episodes are pretty funny. But the show didn’t sit too well with me. I grew up with The Children’s Bible which has some pretty realistic illustrations of biblical stories including combat and Christ’s death. Everything was treated seriously. I can’t say how much that Bible impacted my view of the faith. It made the Bible so much more real and applicable to me in the tough times of life than any silly or sentimental children’s book might.

[@laurens8623]

Maybe for us outside usa it's good to explain what vegetales are up front. Its a TV show correct or cartoon

[@matteahankins9194]

Yes it’s both a TV show and cartoon, I think they have some movies as well.

[@gonzatribe7]

Algorithm brought this to me. Never heard of this channel before, but watched episode and appreciated discussion. It made me curious ... "Would you/this couple approve of ANY animated bible stories, like superbook, Nest family animated stories, Storykeepers ... or do you think that just 'by design' (so to speak), the animation medium itself is wholly inappropriate for relating the gravity of Scriptural accounts overall, period? Hope that question makes sense. Interesting talk ...

[@SpreadHisLight]

Correct, that animation medium can not relay the gravity of the scriptures. Simply give rise to take the scriptures as a joke. The same for most if not all “scripture” based entertainment but that is another topic in itself.

[@themohrlands]

I hadnt thought of veggietales like this before I found your convictions about it very convicting and I completely agree! I love this! Keep the hot takes coming!

[@AshaZenless]

I didn't realize this was a christian show until I looked it up, I've been pressured to be a conservative religious person, but I refuse, and what angered me about this show, is that it idolized the Battle Of Jericho, What about the people IN Jericho, how did THEY feel when their land was taken because god told Joshua that land is theirs? That whole episode's telling do to "do what god tells you to do" instead of making your own decisions. It's about "You shall listen to me because I'm god" Fact: All of this is exactly what Israel's doing to Palestinians, stealing their homes, committing genocide, etc all because "gold told us your land is ours" Battle of Jericho my ass, I'm not following god's will, I'm following my own beliefs.

[@jessc6119]

I appreciate this conversation I have fond memories of vege-tales as a kid. I sat down to watch an episode with my 2 year old for the first time, and was pretty disappointed on how “distracted” it seemed from the gospel I will not be showing it to my children anymore

[@faroshscale]

I love that bob and larry are so clearly boyfriends. slay.

[@shelbyadams6181]

Personally, I've never liked VeggieTales. Even as a child. We usually watch super books. We do on occasion watch veggie tales, but we always explain to go back and check what the Bible says.

[@SquirrellyMom]

My kid sisters were the first generation of veggie tales. They and the kids in their grade loved it. Fast forward I think it contributed to bible being a fairy tale issues. And I don't think any kid knows more truth for having to watched it.

[@emilyslittlebooknook-8043]

I enjoyed the podcast , I wouldn't use it as an escuivly as it alone I'd always show my kids Bible story, then have my kids point out differences and enjoy it as a fun launch pad

[@theamericanlife1111]

VeggieTales: Teaches important morals while also making sure viewers are having fun. These knobs: vEgGiEtAlEs iS dAnGeRoUs!!!!

[@jodypeters2201]

Completely agree with you! Thank you!!

[@asimon8313]

I agree 💯 with ALL you said.

[@jenniferb8570]

Agree. Scripture is black and white, and VT tries to make it gray :(

[@mycupofcocoa1125]

Exactly we can sin 50 time and obey 49 times but God isn’t going to determine our future based on these works thankfully. God allows us into heaven because His grace and we believe in it and Jesus and our intentions/loyalty and love is for God 😊

[@kingdomrootedmama]

I think you probably shared this but what movies do y’all watch. I agree with you on veggies tale. They almost like mock scriptures in a way that is funny and really downgraded it. I think there is a way to retell an adult story to kids in a kids way but that’s not the way

[@barbieestes9078]

This is SO enlightening. I’ve listened to the Disney podcast and agree and was even raised with the same censoring. (Cinderella was a fav.) BUT we grew up understanding veggie tales as a Christian show. And we loved it. However, having my own kiddoes now… I completely see and agree with the points y’all have made. Thank you for these conversations!!!

[@Dana-mb1hd]

Love this you guys! I do have a question I believe you don’t use screens in your home, but do you have any show recommendations for children to watch?

[@catgeel264]

They have an episode on movies they want their kids to watch, maybe you can find some recommendations there? (It's not shows, but still)

[@BloomAlbumProv1128]

Superbook is good and Gizmo Go

[@mrsstrople]

Elisha always makes me laugh out loud. First time when he said "that's such a dad thing" bit

[@jacobholstein]

Hopefully they don't evoke an unfortunate emoji. Wait that's probably not why

[@Meghanprall]

Interested in your opinion on Patch the Pirate. I haven’t liked veggie tales for the reasons you described but Patch the Pirate and Adventures in Odyssey do not do direct Bible stories but teach Bible values. For reference I am a KJV Calvinist. Though I disagree with you on eschatology. We are pre millennial.

[@tobeaboutthelordsbusiness665]

Agree 100%❤ Thanks for sharing!😊

[@TrinityLaurel]

Great conversation! I came to the same conclusions

[@melindaedgington9925]

I never watched the show as a child but my children watch it. I personally love the show and find it entertaining. I am quite sure I have heard them talk about God on the show. Remember it is a show not a Bible study.

[@VeggieTalesUnofficial]

thank you

[@phoenixclark2920]

It would be great for the churched and unchurched alike if you would read the scriptures or quote to the text that you're referencing so people are able to see, in context, what exactly it is that you're talking about. ❤

[@hannahthehomesteader]

I watched it as a kid but it was more entertainment than actual theology. Now that I'm a mom... that's the problem. It's just dumb entertainment and it's not great theology at all.

[@mrsstrople]

I went to show my toddler one of their Christmas shows because my husband grew up with that show, but it was awful. It might have been the true light of Christmas movie or something like that.

[@Mintbumblebees]

Hey what tv and shows in your opinion would you advise for ages 8-10?

[@VeggieTalesUnofficial]

Bibleman! No wait. That's offensive cause he's a super hero. VeggieTales! No wait. They have humor, that's evil. Um.. um... how about some good... MTV? fr tho, VeggieTales is great. Research it, don't listen to this video. Raised on the show and have a deeper faith and stronger understanding of bible stories because of it.

[@Idiotic_B_Purcell]

The true reason it's dæmonic is not only that, but also ask this to yourself: Where does a moving.... _gherkin...._ and his tomato friend, coming to life, fit in with anything in the Bible? Isn't that kinda blasphemous? Isn't that kinda sacreligious? Y'see, God made.... all the things that is, and well, these 2, alongside literally every other character, defy God's Creation solely by being alive. They are born out of Beelzebub's hands. Seriously, where in the Bible does it say "And then the food talked." ? They are religious movie? They are not religious movie, they are Satan movie. Something to think about before brushing your teeth tonight.

[@abbiefortney7530]

I would assume you don't watch the Chosen seires as well since they take a huge creative license on the gospels. Its all good whatever God convicts you to do. I think veggie is a safe a and clean show i dont have worry about when i turn it on.

[@joannatripp7831]

Hey! So totally love you guys and all of your stuff! And appreciate all the things y'all talk about including this 🙂 however, I did want to throw this one thing out there that the older VeggieTales did mention God and Jesus and they're much more sound. The newer ones, however, are completely off the rails as the originator really had his own issues with God and so on.

[@mrgavsterman]

I get what yall are saying but as a kid who grew up watching veggie tales, i feel like i understood the difference between veggie tales and what the bible says actually happened. Its ok to let kids have a little fun. No offense, but if your kids take the events of veggie tales as fact, then maybe you need to rethink some of your parenting strategies.

[@tulkali91]

Degrading scripture? I mean that's very far fetched. Getting kids to laugh and be interested in the Bible is not degrading. You can easily clear up the errors, which gives your discipleship the chance to grow and flourish. Just as you would watch a documentary, everything wouldn't be spot on and that's okay because it's not going to be spot on, it's a recreation. Veggie tales spreads the right message and is relating to children. Just as Sunday school does. It's everyone's personal choice to partake in any of these but to say that kids show degrades scripture is absurd. I wasn't a Christian as a child and I loved veggie tales and now as a Christian adult, I still love them but I can see any errors and correct them. It makes me wanna fact check by reading my Bible.... Have a little more faith that your kids are capable of finding the truth

[@jessicabrown6943]

Great thoughts. I even have a hard time with kids books making the Bible stories look like cartoons. I want my kids to know the Bible is real. Not a cartoon or fairy tale.

[@chickengal1661]

Yes we don’t do that show either.

[@theswampstead559]

I thought you guys don't do screen time?

[@TwiFiveGirls101]

This is great. Can you give explicit examples of how you do bible study with young kids. My kids are 3 years old and 8 months old? Also, my kids are totally screen free, except to video chat daddy when he travels for work.

[@ambergarcia8129]

I have seen veggie tales the older ones classics , the Bible tells stories and put them as heroes as well god shows and tells how he used the people or the animals and veggie tales does it great! Your gona be picky about veggie tales then don’t show them tv at all don’t take them shopping don’t buy them a phone don’t do a lot of things really.

[@ExcitingOnion]

I think you are overthinking this and being too nervous. It feels like, you are saying that anything about God or scripture can only be extremely serious? There's no humorous side of who God is, only a really serious and severe side? I think something that is fun and clever can be just as much a direct expression of who God is as the more serious expressions. The hebrews were Commanded by scripture to have fun feast days and give gifts and eat deserts. That's what it literally says. The reason kids turn into militant atheists is precisely because of this incredibly controlling attitude, that's trying so hard to make a problem out of just normal human telling of stories. Life is hard and God designed people to have times of rest and playing around. It seems like you think, that God cannot be part of that, we have to leave him behind while being in the restful part of life. Without rest we literally can get brain damage and die, it's a very serious issue if you neglect it. If kids want to have some fun videos, they end up turning to Pokemon and nasty animes because of the hyper worried Christian attitude that won't allow even tiny little legitimate fun. It's not like veggietales is teaching bad ideas or something. Why do you pick on them for being "silly" as if that's some kind of horrible crime, as if God can't exist while a child is being fun, he can only mix with the serious side of their life? Children in this environment will learn that it's not ok to laugh around the Bible and if they're really sad and stressed they will run to the open arms of the world just to get a monents peace and not feel like they're being hyper analyzed. I'm speechless at how demanding we can be about such tiny things in the church while the world is having actual deep darkness outside. I don't want to get too upset, I'm not trying to be angry. Please spend your energy on outreach to the world that is in great need of a little drop of peace and joy from the Holy Spirit. Please don't persecute little things, it's not worth it.

[@hugsforlove]

❤❤

[@scrap111]

was in stitches the whole video. Clearly VeggieTales went over your alls heads. You don't have to like it, but you're ruining kids childhoods with dumb stuff like this. You know there are parents seeing this title and just going with it. VeggieTales is the healthiest and most moral based show a kid could watch. Think of how many parents are now letting their kids watch violent or offensive cartoons as opposed to veggietales, cause of your video. Then again, maybe I'm being dramatic, it's not like you're a real trend starter.