Velocity XL RG Is A $400,000 Spaceship With Wings

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The Velocity XL RG is one of the most unique single engine airplanes in the world. It is carnard design with a pusher motor in the back. The XL also boasts one of the largest cabin of all 4 seat kit aircraft. With 47.5" shoulder to shoulder. Velocity XL comes with several engine options from 260 to 310 Horse Power. You can expect cruise speeds in this aircraft at 200 knots (230 mph).
A fully loaded Velocity XL will cost $300,000 if you build yourself and about $400,000 if you build at a facility.
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Capacity: 4 people
Engine: Lycoming or Continental 260 hp - 310 hp
Range: 1,380 miles
Speed: 230 mph
Price: $300k - $400k
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@garrygballard8914
@garrygballard8914 3 жыл бұрын
Have been a Velocity fine since the late 80’s. They have had an amazing evolution in the last three decades.
@paratyshow
@paratyshow 3 жыл бұрын
Mike back to your beginings with plane reviews!!!!! Tks a lot
@jasonalpha
@jasonalpha 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting plane. Thanks so much
@karlelliott9254
@karlelliott9254 3 жыл бұрын
Burt Rutan did this style canard wing in 1974, almost fifty years ago. It was done in California and known as the Long-EZ. The Piaggio Avanti P-180 came around in the 1980’s and early 1990’s in this design but as a 7 to 9 passenger with a ceiling if around 41,000 feet. Much later models have a cruise of 400 knots with twin turboprops and are very fuel efficient compared with “jets” of similar size. The laminar fuselage provides around 17% of total lift plus a great drag reduction. It’s is possibly the best design in history.
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah pusher props seems like a win-win: you don't waste part of the trust by prop wash pushing back on the aircraft or wing. You don't get the noise coming from the pulsing prop wash hitting surfaces. You don't get any P-factors from spiral airflow around the fuselage. Well you still get counter-torque of course. Only issue I see is cooling at low airspeeds and high stall speeds leading to high T&L speeds as well. But the cooling can be mitigated by movable engine cowling flaps. Done in C-182, was done with the P-51D also.
@TecnamTwin
@TecnamTwin Жыл бұрын
​​​@@suzukirider9030 Not quite. Tractor props provide blown lift and allow for better control authority at slower speeds due to the propeller slipstream, not to mention shorter takeoffs as a result. And you already mentioned cooling. Check out NASA's X-57 Maxwell. Engineering is the art of compromise. Also, have you heard a Piaggio Avanti before? They're very noisy.
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 Жыл бұрын
@@TecnamTwin Haven't heart a Piaggio Avanti or seen one airborne IRL. If it's more noisy it must be for reasons other than merely being a pusher prop. But I agree that noise is not a primary trait.
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 Жыл бұрын
@@TecnamTwin I wouldn't say tractors have a shorter takeoff roll because of their configuration. It might very well be the case that most pushers are overall optimized for cruise efficiency rather than STOL, so there's that. It's not like a tractor helps STOL, in fact a tractor with the elevator in the slipstream would produce pretty good STOL specs. But, most STOL aircraft happen to be also tractors, while most pusher aircraft are probably also optimized for cruise speed and efficiency
@Master.Daddy.Wicked
@Master.Daddy.Wicked 10 ай бұрын
This is closer to Rutan’s Cozy MKIV
@CharlieBrown-bj5yl
@CharlieBrown-bj5yl 3 жыл бұрын
Saw this video realizing you gave us our 2 seconds of fame! My wife and I were sitting on the ground under the tail of the yellow float plane behind the Velocity. I told her I thought I had seen you on You Tube. I was right! Great info on the Velocity. Keep your plane flying and the informative Vlogs coming! Great job!
@albertgary7281
@albertgary7281 3 жыл бұрын
I knew an owner of a Burt Rutan designed/produced VariEze tandem two-seater canard kit plane. This was 1980. It was a tricycle landing gear plane with a hand crank retractable nose gear. He would retract the nose gear and set the nose on the ground when parked. I loved the innovation design of the little plane and everything Rutan did. They actually put a jet engine on one of the small planes. I see that this Velocity plane is a larger variety of the Rutan VariEze.
@mikeb020275
@mikeb020275 3 жыл бұрын
This plane is the reason I’m getting my private licenses as we speak.. i can’t wait to fly it one day.
@quantumac
@quantumac 3 жыл бұрын
The Velocity is definitely a sexy aircraft. Don't know how it flies, but it looks like it would cut through the air like butter.
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
Flown a 2-seater canard, the Berkut-540. Same power in a tandem 2-seater. Cruises at 220 TAS alright. Main downside is it needs A LOT of runway. That "I pay for the whole runway - I use whole runway!" joke gets real in the Berkut, even more so with the Velocity. Think 5'000 ft for a comfortable landing. 3'000 is short-field for the Velocity. And don't you even think about soft-field - this thing rotates and touches down at 100 kt.
@weirdguy564
@weirdguy564 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an avionics installer at Duncan Aviation in Lincoln, NE, 25 years experience. We do the big business jets, full mods and any maintenance you want, including paint. I'm always impressed that these smaller planes can fit in that much avionics that in larger jets end up have boxes and boxes taking up tons of real estate inside the jets. But I can say that this little plane looks a LOT nicer than a lot of the big, expensive business jets I have worked on by quite a bit.
@speedomars
@speedomars 3 жыл бұрын
A full Garmin G3x setup with a Garmin GTN750 nav panel in the middle (ILS, LPV, LNAV approaches with ego-referenced plates) is far superior to anything in an older jet or turboprop. The latest version even has auto-glide which computes glide distance, sets the throttle and nose for max distance after determining the closest airfield at the push of a button. The AP also has a blue level button and terrain mapping with audible alarms and crew alerts.
@gtm624
@gtm624 3 жыл бұрын
That thing is NUTS! I would love to get a ride in it. Let alone fly it. Wow. Blows my mind that even on the newest tech planes, They still have mixture adjustments. Thanks for showing us this plane.
@speedomars
@speedomars 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to have computer mixture and throttle controls then get an engine with FADEC. The plane has nada to do with it.
@gtm624
@gtm624 3 жыл бұрын
@@speedomars yea as an add on. I’m just surprised that it’s not implemented on more planes from factory. I would have thought, Once fuel injection took over and especially with the advancements we’ve seen in the last decade with combustion engines it would be standard. Personally I would never want to loose a manual mixture even if computer controlled.
@rnordquest
@rnordquest 2 жыл бұрын
Come down to Sebastian and take a demo ride. I did many years ago. It's a nice flying airplane. Now that I live in Sebastian I should stop by myself.
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
@@gtm624 That's exactly why they still have manual mixture - people who've learned how to do mixture control don't want to lose it. People who can't be bothered to get comfortable with manual mixture control - probably won't be building experimental aircraft. They might get an Icon A5 or something that starts like a car
@tmd757
@tmd757 3 жыл бұрын
Was great to meet you after you filmed this segment at sun'n'fun! I can't wait to see your reaction and review when velocity finishes it v-twin varient with the turboprops!
@eoinoconnell185
@eoinoconnell185 11 ай бұрын
I love the physics and efficiency of this aircraft. So much space too.
@rooseveltdumornay4954
@rooseveltdumornay4954 3 жыл бұрын
I'm living vicariously through you. Such a beautiful airplane
@camerongoodwin2020
@camerongoodwin2020 3 жыл бұрын
Only flyable from the left seat, not both. Also turbo chargers are not put on engines in the vast majority of cases for speed, but instead for higher cruise altitudes and performance in high density altitude environments. Unlike NA engines which loose performance in higher altitudes and high density altitude environments the turbo charger makes the engine think it is still at sea level. A higher cruise speed is a byproduct, but not the reason they are added. Very interesting plane review, thanks as always for the content! I enjoyed it, but wanted to clear that up.
@n6408s
@n6408s 3 жыл бұрын
Velocity's can be flown from the right seat. Some builders of center stick Velocity's add a throttle to the right side. But even without the right side throttle, it is possible to fly from the right seat. It's just a pain to reach the throttle.
@camerongoodwin2020
@camerongoodwin2020 3 жыл бұрын
@@n6408s Well correct, you could if you added a throttle on the right hand side. I was just referring to the one in the video. Only a throttle, mixture, prop on the left hand side and its a right hand molded stick. So, yes, if you really wanted to get technical about it I suppose you could fly from the right hand side in the one in the video, but who would ever do it? I would assume no one...
@QuooJay
@QuooJay Жыл бұрын
*lower density*. Presumably this airplane is not designed in any case to operate much above 12,000ft? Would you have oxygen on board?
@brownlee62534
@brownlee62534 Жыл бұрын
Well Cameron, it can be flown from the right seat with an added throttle control. Why are you splitting hairs over the speed/turbo issues? Planes fly faster at higher altitudes, it takes turbos to reach those altitudes and cruise. My last question is, has the FAA made using oxygen bottles and canulas illegal? It's an experimental, and maybe the finest ever, I'm planning on building one and pressurization looks very possible. Experimental aircraft are the last creative area of general aviation, how about you support it rather than pot shoot it with half truths and doubts?
@RoyOttingerII
@RoyOttingerII 20 күн бұрын
Pressurized
@newmonengineering
@newmonengineering 3 жыл бұрын
I sat in one of these down here in Florida as well. It really is a beautiful airplane. The one I sat in was grey interior. What a sweet plane. Always loved that thing.
@hydojenk
@hydojenk 3 жыл бұрын
We need a flight review in this and the twin!
@graemedicks3139
@graemedicks3139 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed,would really appreciate a review of both.
@danielmclellan7762
@danielmclellan7762 Жыл бұрын
The six seater flew today!
@larrysouthern5098
@larrysouthern5098 3 жыл бұрын
This was the reason I wanted to build m own aiplane.back in the seventies...( the Varii Eze ... Long Eze..Cozy..and Velocity) are all futuristic designs of the future!!! Thanks to Mr Burt Rutan for his perseverance and genious!!! >I
@CrossWindsPat
@CrossWindsPat 3 жыл бұрын
He is a legend. Went on to make the planes that lifted the first commercial sub orbital flight with people!
@larrysouthern5098
@larrysouthern5098 3 жыл бұрын
@@CrossWindsPat We all owe him a great deal of repect!!! Thank you!!! 🐦🐦🐦
@Peppermint1
@Peppermint1 3 жыл бұрын
Finally got time to head down to Sebastian and check out the factory and do a demo flight. The RG we demoed was FAST. Got up to 180 indicated within the first 500 ft while climbing at 1000 ft/min. Because of the canard design it won't spin, and the stalls simply brings the nose down. In the air this plane was awesome. While we were not allowed to land it, the chief pilot did that, I was able to take it all the way down to short final. One thing about it, in slow speeds the ailerons are really unresponsive. Touchdown is at 95. Since it is a free castering wheel you have to steer with differential breaking, so need to be careful not to overbreak or you end up on the grass. Also the original breaking system did not include toe breaks, therefore if you are landing with full rudder you have to be extra careful you're not touching down with breaks on. We saw a about 6 different airplanes while at the factory. Build quality was all over the place. Some were very good and some were very bad.
@n6408s
@n6408s 3 жыл бұрын
Touchdown at 95kts??? I seriously doubt that. On my XL-RG I was over the numbers at 75kts and on the mains at 70kts.
@speedomars
@speedomars 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the planes you may have seen were owner/builder. The factory offers a builder assist.
@YourFriendlyGApilot
@YourFriendlyGApilot 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, i was waiting for this one!!! Great video as always.
@okhera1
@okhera1 3 жыл бұрын
Black and Red are great colors.
@rreichar1
@rreichar1 3 жыл бұрын
I have always loved Burt Rutan’s designs. I bought a set of Cozy Mk4 plans from Nat Puffer years ago. Maybe one of the most efficient planes that you could get into relatively cheaply. Almost as soon as I started I developed an allergy to epoxy so the plans still sit in a box under our bed.
@jamesworld3734
@jamesworld3734 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, one of my favorite planes!
@markwiygul6356
@markwiygul6356 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful aircraft. One day I'd like to own a LongEZ (similar, but more affordable)... or even a Varieze. They all look like something from the future. I see this pilot takes off from Briscoe Field regularly, which I live just under the final approach for :-)
@JRSawyer
@JRSawyer 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, those EFIS's are GRT Avionics... different than Dynon. (I have GRT in my airplane too) Give those GRT guys a shout out!
@johncaterify
@johncaterify 3 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this one for a while now. Next up Cobalt Valkyrie! Thanks Mike
@codythomason2310
@codythomason2310 3 жыл бұрын
I think cobalt Valkyrie went under
@johncaterify
@johncaterify 3 жыл бұрын
@@codythomason2310 kinda, they're now owned by centauri-aircraft, but it's still the same plane.
@codythomason2310
@codythomason2310 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you didn’t know that love that plane
@alexdarcydestsimon3767
@alexdarcydestsimon3767 Жыл бұрын
@@codythomason2310 yeah, looks great!
@brownlee62534
@brownlee62534 Жыл бұрын
Mike, thanks for a great review of maybe the finest experimental aircraft ever designed. I'm going to finally build one at 72 years old. I'll take the short route of course. Either buying a partially built kit or the factory accelerated options. I will be building a fixed gear due to my age, too easy to forget the gear and I've never had one. The greatest departure from the factory, will be the six liter GM all aluminum LS V-8. (TURBO CHARGED). A gentleman in Florida has built a fantastic example with the engine. I believe it flies at 275, which is VNE, with some mods. Ignore the sniping from the self important know it all's, you do a great job. Love your success brother.
@JohnBhaktul
@JohnBhaktul 3 жыл бұрын
Fun and Sun in Florida nice!
@goranmarkovic6002
@goranmarkovic6002 3 жыл бұрын
Your shoes (at 5:32) perfectly match interior
@jameswalker9244
@jameswalker9244 3 жыл бұрын
I have been looking at building this kit for years. Love the look and the size!
@MrPaige222
@MrPaige222 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just wondering how we went from 150, 000 which included the whole kit with retractable gear and engine to 400, 000? Are avionics, paint, builder assist and interior REALLY 250, 000?
@sh4969
@sh4969 9 ай бұрын
I like the design of that plane.
@taemitchell7419
@taemitchell7419 3 жыл бұрын
From a young brother to another keep it up proud of u champ !!
@mjhornidge
@mjhornidge 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, Mike. I would like to have you come out in a few years to check out my future Velocity XL.
@mundanestuff
@mundanestuff 3 жыл бұрын
Always loved this airplane. This and the long ez. Someday.
@jcims
@jcims 3 жыл бұрын
We have what I believe is a Long EZ that flies around here. Sounds like it's running half the RPM of a typical GA plane and when he flies low you almost get that cool WWII effect when the pitch drops as he passes over. Absolutely love this style of plane.
@sinjhguddu4974
@sinjhguddu4974 3 жыл бұрын
A very unique plane thanks a many!
@arizonafoldingdoors3772
@arizonafoldingdoors3772 3 жыл бұрын
Great Review. Would love to see you in a "flight review" of this plane or even the twin. My understanding is that they are much faster at high flight levels. On other youtube channels, I hear the common speeds are 230-250knts. 200knts w/ basic 180hp engine. I see they are coming out with a 7 seat twin plane!!!
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, any turbocharged plane is faster at high altitude, but need oxygen to fully utilize. Non-turboed ones lose power at about the same rate as drag lessens...
@denniswillingham880
@denniswillingham880 3 жыл бұрын
That's my dream plane 😍
@TecnamTwin
@TecnamTwin Жыл бұрын
This is probably my favorite homebuilt airplane ever. If I could afford it, I'd probably get the Twin. 😁 But since money doesn't grow on trees, I'll probably have to settle for a Waiex.
@majorchungus
@majorchungus 3 жыл бұрын
I have been to the factory in Florida. $400k is way more than most will spend. You could probably complete a basic for $150k. The Twin version can be completed for $300k. That is from the mouth of the owner of the factory. The model I sat in felt cramped. Which was the twin. I am 6'2".
@speedomars
@speedomars 2 жыл бұрын
A full factory build (with owner present at crucial times) is over $425k right now (this includes the transition training and test flying). Kit builders spend less money but put in FAR more time. And require a certain level of patience and skill.
@voyagerpagoda3314
@voyagerpagoda3314 3 жыл бұрын
Edit: This is different from the Velocity I've seen (some come with the vertical stabilizer). Different kit. Love your channel.
@rileyswing9731
@rileyswing9731 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm..?
@voyagerpagoda3314
@voyagerpagoda3314 3 жыл бұрын
@@rileyswing9731 Sorry, meant Vertical not horizontal 🤣🤣🤣
@rileyswing9731
@rileyswing9731 3 жыл бұрын
@@voyagerpagoda3314 still not sure what you mean, the V-Twin has a real vertical in the middle but that’s still a Velocity
@speedomars
@speedomars 3 жыл бұрын
You are confusing the v-twin with the other models. All single engine models have no tail. the rudders are on the wing-tips.
@voyagerpagoda3314
@voyagerpagoda3314 3 жыл бұрын
@@speedomars Too late buddy. I’ve already figured that out. Regardless, V-Twin is a great plane. Hopefully one day I may have the pleasure of owning one.
@farhanfouadacca
@farhanfouadacca 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, you didn’t mention it’s ceiling. I believe the turbo charge option isn’t for speed, it’s more for higher ceiling. If it increases ceiling by 20,000 feet then definitely worth it for someone wanting to fly that high. Like your videos. Keep posting.
@sandyprice
@sandyprice 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Last I looked at Velocity, I don't think they had a fully pressurized cabin build. I'm not sure you would want to fly at 30,000 with just plane oxygen.
@chukaofiaeli7787
@chukaofiaeli7787 3 жыл бұрын
Flight ceiling is 25,000 feet and with turbo engine, you will see 275knots at FL200. It’s fast with turbo
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
@@chukaofiaeli7787 Does going turbo give much range advantage also? I mean the fuel burn is also higher with the turbo...
@speedomars
@speedomars 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandyprice No piston single or piston twin can fly at FL30. If you want to go there you need to get into a jet-prop or fan-jet.
@Fred-rv2tu
@Fred-rv2tu 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I got to check out a couple of velocities at sun and fun a few years ago. Definitely something I'm interested in.
@joehaveaheart4088
@joehaveaheart4088 3 жыл бұрын
Fly that baby!!,
@Rassah
@Rassah 3 жыл бұрын
The specs are pretty variable for these things. It also depends on how you use your engine. On mine, a non-turbo IO550 with fixed gear, if I cruise rich of peak I get about 175 knots with a similar 900 mile range. But if I go lean of peak, I cruise at 165, but the range is over 1300 miles. This plane is definitely a long distance cruiser.
@As_A________Commenter
@As_A________Commenter 3 жыл бұрын
What type of useful load do you have with the non turbo 550?
@Rassah
@Rassah 3 жыл бұрын
@@As_A________Commenter I can lift full tanks of 90 gallons, plus four average size people including the pilot, off a 3000 foot runway. So about 1200 to 1300 pounds
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
So, non-RG costs you about... 30 kt of speed? Which also means like 20% of the range... What was the savings vs the RG version? Also - the turbo version gets 20 kt more speed and you can cruise at higher altitudes gaining even more TAS, but - also has higher fuel burn, so is there any range advantage from going turbo?
@speedomars
@speedomars 2 жыл бұрын
@@suzukirider9030 For any aircraft the best and really only way to increase range is to fly LOP and at about 75% power. The turbo dictates how high you can fly not how far.
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
​@@speedomars But, flying higher also means higher TAS with the same fuel burn per hour, due to less air resistance... basically main reason why commercial jets fly at FL30 and above... I mean even in a fixed-pitch C-172 gets higher TAS at 10'000 ft than at 2'000 ft, with the same fuel burn. Possibly even lower fuel burn per hour at 10'000 due to leaning the engine much more than you can lean at 2'000ft ?
@dennisnbrown
@dennisnbrown 3 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who has one. Even with a 200hp io360 it is awesome
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
The 4-seater Velocity come with an IO-360? Or a 2-seater LongEZ ?
@kvnkaveman
@kvnkaveman 2 жыл бұрын
@@suzukirider9030 Velocity has Three Aircraft, the SE, XL and V-Twin and soon to be 6 place V-Twin The SE is smaller than the XL and uses the 4 cylinder engines.
@TxRednek69
@TxRednek69 3 жыл бұрын
Problem I see is if the co-pilot has to land the throttle is so far away and the controls are right hand only.
@jasonalpha
@jasonalpha 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting plane. Thanks so much
@TridentCapital
@TridentCapital 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I don't get about this design is how you would fly from the right seat with the throttle/prop controls on the far left side. I think this one is meant to be flown only from the left seat.
@n6408s
@n6408s 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not difficult to put a second throttle on the right side. Most current builds are installing side sticks with a center throttle.
@deanconstantine4866
@deanconstantine4866 3 жыл бұрын
Great walk around
@ronaldharris6569
@ronaldharris6569 3 жыл бұрын
There is a velocity on you tube with a Corvette engine I think its about 500 horsepower but no videos of it flying yet just running on the ground. The pressurized retractable gear version is the epitome of space ship looking
@speedomars
@speedomars 3 жыл бұрын
There is no pressurized version of the Velocity in any model. The guy sticking a Vette engine in one is asking for trouble too.
@ronaldharris6569
@ronaldharris6569 3 жыл бұрын
@@speedomars check the website
@ToyManFlyer1100
@ToyManFlyer1100 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldharris6569 yeah, and it still ain't flying...Stick with what's proven...Don't tryn re-invent the wheel to be cool...
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
@@speedomars Why's he asking for trouble any more than any other experimental builder? There's a few C-172 experimentals with GM's V-8 flying alright.
@speedomars
@speedomars 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldharris6569 For what? The Velocity is a non-pressurized cabin design. To get pressurization the entire air-frame would need to be re-designed. No one can modify one in their garage to get that...
@robertphillips3078
@robertphillips3078 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite 4 seater lite aircraft... the Velocity. Like the turbo charged engine , however a turbo prop would be my choice. As 4 2 seaters l am impressed by the ×3 brothers with Dark Aero. And 4 something different the Quickee Q2 .
@jimydoolittle3129
@jimydoolittle3129 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome nice good looking aircraft ✈️ definitely it has style ❤️ and seems full of performance 💪
@cmdmd
@cmdmd 2 жыл бұрын
In GA, if you crash hard enough and the ELT activates, you really don’t need it.
@DeltaTristar500
@DeltaTristar500 29 күн бұрын
I'm sure there has to be something to prevent tail striking since the props are back there
@busteraycan
@busteraycan Жыл бұрын
I love the aircraft but hate the cockpit design. I would prefer a 2 stick system with engine levers in the middle. As if I could ever afford one...
@gtm624
@gtm624 3 жыл бұрын
Now I agree. 20 knots isn’t worth 60k. But having the extra power to pull out of something or such is. I would want the extra power for the torque.
@lebojay
@lebojay 3 жыл бұрын
Unless the terrain is very high, a turbocharged engine won’t help you avoid it. They only make a difference at high altitudes.
@gtm624
@gtm624 3 жыл бұрын
@@lebojay well. He only mentioned speed. He really didn’t talk about the power Difference in the two engine options. Of course forced induction will help anywhere the air is thin. But either way any turbo or supercharger will increase torque and power. All the power in the world won’t matter if the angle of the prop and the engine rpm were the same. Which is what Your saying. My point is. Always better to have more power. That is provided you can utilize it. With say a variable pitch prop.
@chukaofiaeli7787
@chukaofiaeli7787 3 жыл бұрын
With the turbocharged engine .. you can cruise 250knots at FL180 and 275knots at FL200. You will need an 02 system at those levels though.
@gtm624
@gtm624 3 жыл бұрын
@@chukaofiaeli7787 which makes sense. Turbo really helps at the higher altitudes. And probably better fuel economy.
@ACW-2024
@ACW-2024 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, I love that plane, inside is like a sedan-car, please borrow one to fly it and record a video, nice review by the way.
@sylvaincoldstalker4802
@sylvaincoldstalker4802 3 жыл бұрын
What is the red plane on the background ??
@dhiakhamis643
@dhiakhamis643 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Googleaccount-sf7ir
@Googleaccount-sf7ir 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. You should be a traveling rep for the company. Skip the car you deserve a company plane!
@BuceGar
@BuceGar 3 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous plane.
@tikeybo
@tikeybo 3 жыл бұрын
looks great. but nothing about the history of the design? Burt Rutan? Long EZ? Cozy?
@warisbs
@warisbs 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your vids
@richardharris2494
@richardharris2494 3 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff Mike!
@USNVA11
@USNVA11 3 жыл бұрын
That interior needs some fuzzy dice hanging from the overhead console.
@rileyswing9731
@rileyswing9731 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@wgargan
@wgargan 3 жыл бұрын
I loved watching your plane build, buuut your plane reviews are SICK! Love it brother!
@hectorherbert6585
@hectorherbert6585 Жыл бұрын
on another channel 271 knots announced with the turbo motor at 20.000 feet..
@mensneedleworkmetalwoodstoneau
@mensneedleworkmetalwoodstoneau Жыл бұрын
Спасибо ! Хороший обзор! Привет из Москвы ! я настроен на карбон кэб но такие обзоры тоже хорошо ...
@VideoconferencingUSA
@VideoconferencingUSA Жыл бұрын
Nice job
@peterbonnez
@peterbonnez 3 жыл бұрын
Very attractive
@adamrmc100
@adamrmc100 3 жыл бұрын
I am a big fan of the Piper Malibu/M350, and if the Velocity were given the same cabin, engine, certified and put into production, I think it would be an excellent competitor.
@speedomars
@speedomars 3 жыл бұрын
The M350 is a certified, pressurized piston single, seating 5 and costing over $1.3m. The Velocity XL seats 4 and has built-in oxygen but is not pressurized and finished at $350k or so. The M350 with a 350hp engine flys at 215kts cruise (heavy plane). This plane with the same with same sized engine flys at 270kts cruise. The Piper is a lousy deal.
@adamrmc100
@adamrmc100 3 жыл бұрын
@@speedomars Yes, I would love to see a certified pressurized version, and with the club seating would be my preference, sort of like a private jet. I say certified because then one could make money off of it and make the loan payments. If it was certified, which would take a lot of time and money for the company (or another company that buys it), but it would be at least a $1.5m aircraft. It could even justify a price similar to the M500 because it would have the same performance (better range), but it would have the low fuel and maintenance costs of the M350. All that considered, that's why I like the M350, but the Velocity design could knock it out of the park if they had the resources to put the time and money in for development.
@speedomars
@speedomars 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamrmc100 You are talking about a different idea and product. Velocity (and all Rutan designs like it) are experimental and kits... Most want to see Cirrus make a pressurized piston aircraft, and that makes the most sense, but Cirrus will never do it. They instead went the jet route to get to their pressurized product (single engine VLJ). In fact, the ONLY piston single pressurized aircraft is the M350 and it costs over $1.3m bucks...a very steep price for most people. Small business class aircraft like you describe are either jets or tubine powered and none of them are under $2m bucks.
@speedomars
@speedomars 2 жыл бұрын
You are kidding, right? If a glider had an jet engine, pressurization, retractable gear and more seats it could be a cabin-class plane too. Laughing.
@kvnkaveman
@kvnkaveman 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamrmc100 Look up Beech Craft Starship. That should answer all your questions. Beech Craft built A beautiful economy canard aircraft and it failed miserably and Beech lost a fortune in the process.
@kennethjohnson6223
@kennethjohnson6223 3 жыл бұрын
Seen one on fb marketplace tupelo MS $78k low hours and loaded couple mos. ago
@majorchungus
@majorchungus 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with this aircraft design with no flaps is that they have higher landing speeds, so if you have an engine out, you have more energy to get rid of on landing. That's the only thing that really bothers me about this design. The canard makes it hard to put into a spin and the main wing doesn't stall. When you try to stall it, it just Flys but without the break. It's actually cool in that aspect.
@n6408s
@n6408s 3 жыл бұрын
It's not "hard" to put into a spin. It's "impossible" to put it into a spin.
@majorchungus
@majorchungus 3 жыл бұрын
@@n6408s Thanks for the Info. That's what I thought, I just wasn't sure if there was a region of flight that it might be possible to put in a spin.
@speedomars
@speedomars 2 жыл бұрын
The lack of flaps results in more runway needed (about 20% for the same weight aircraft). The Cirrus SR22T has flaps and still needs 80kts over the numbers. The Velocity about 80 to 85 kts over the numbers and 75kts when the mains touch. Stall speed is 65kts. Stall speed for the Cirrus is 60kts. Not a ton of difference.
@monocogenit1
@monocogenit1 3 жыл бұрын
these things are sweet. that interior is something else though. lol
@magicdaveable
@magicdaveable 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review.
@kingjoe111
@kingjoe111 3 жыл бұрын
GTA, my favorite plane
@mtkoslowski
@mtkoslowski 3 жыл бұрын
But it’s a *RIGHT HANDED* stick.
@sethbender2863
@sethbender2863 3 жыл бұрын
My boss wants to buy one of these. We were at sun n fun. One of the vendors.
@Beffudled
@Beffudled 3 жыл бұрын
That air intake on the top looks like a candidate for icing. Is there anything to keep it from freezing over?
@kvnkaveman
@kvnkaveman 3 жыл бұрын
If you find yourself in an icing situation in a Velocity you have a lot more to worry about then the air intakes freezing over.
@speedomars
@speedomars 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot fly these things in ice...It has no de-icing system for the wings.
@obroberts5929
@obroberts5929 3 жыл бұрын
There is one down side, the throttle control, a co-pilot in an emergency would have an extremely hard time controlling the aircraft especially during landings.
@speedomars
@speedomars 3 жыл бұрын
You can get the kit with two side sticks. Some choose to put the stick on the middle console and the throttle, prop control and fuel mixture on the side too. But that can also be put on the center to allow dual-ops.
@TM-tw1py
@TM-tw1py 3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure this not a home built aircraft that was not properly put together? It likes like they built in backwards???
@sebastiany4391
@sebastiany4391 3 жыл бұрын
Propulsion generated at the rear, main wings at the rear and canards in the front end, which reminds me of EF2000 or J-20 fighter jet.
@alexdarcydestsimon3767
@alexdarcydestsimon3767 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the Rafale and the Grippen. Both very good canards.
@gbigsangle3044
@gbigsangle3044 3 жыл бұрын
Incorrect on many levels. 1. the fast build kit for the XL is $125k 2. the factory built version is $275k with avionics, engine and interior finished (ready to fly). This with the Continental TSIO 550 fuel injected turbo. The model is called the TXL. It has a cruise speed of 250kts and a max cruise of 270 kts.
@kvnkaveman
@kvnkaveman 3 жыл бұрын
You might want to do some research there. The TXL package is an interior upgrade package. A Continental TSIO 550 is going to cost 120K easily. And in order for the Factory to be able to build one for you you have to live some where South of the Continental U.S. and the Building price charge is easily going to be over 150K in Labor charges alone. The avionics alone will cost North of 50K before the install charge. You might be able to build one yourself for 275K with the TSIO 550 if you take the time to look for all the extra pieces you need on the used market but good luck with that. His estimate is at the higher end but in the ball park of what it will cost to build one at the upper performance scale. But either way 325 to 400K is still pretty cheap for a 240 knot aircraft. Or you can keep your eyes open and watch for one to come up for sale. The most recent one was listed at 290,000.
@speedomars
@speedomars 3 жыл бұрын
@@kvnkaveman Wrong. The T-XL is the XL-R5 turbo version (has nothing to do with the interior). A TSIO 550-C 310hp is $86k. The cost of two Garmin G3x, autopilot, and nav panel (GTN 650), cage and wiring package is $50k. The factory uses the fast build kit and if you include retractable gear, seals, luxury interior, heavy duty brakes, engine mount for the TSIO, and dual side sticks its $125k plus $100k factory labor (includes avionix, engine install, paint, interior work). The only other costs are for testing (50hrs of flight time), transition training and misc which is about another $10k.
@kvnkaveman
@kvnkaveman 3 жыл бұрын
@@speedomars Which still has the price over 350,000. Point being the Mojo's 400,000 estimate is in range with a fully built turbo Velocity.
@ToyManFlyer1100
@ToyManFlyer1100 3 жыл бұрын
@@speedomars sooo, what you 2 dudes having a "Sword fight " here...?? !!!... If never of you got a 1/2 a mill laying around, all of this back and forth is a moot point...
@gbigsangle3044
@gbigsangle3044 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManFlyer1100 I am an aircraft owner. I just sold my 2016 Cirrus and am ordering a Velocity, possibly. I have checked the numbers and this is basically the story for now. Soon Continental is going to raise engine prices, but for now this is the pricing.
@jean-ms2862
@jean-ms2862 3 жыл бұрын
Merci ! Your vidéo is very cool. I love this plane. When will you Male flying test?
@homiedclown1885
@homiedclown1885 3 жыл бұрын
Mojogrip, can you show electric planes?
@travisbaker2228
@travisbaker2228 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised these haven't been updated to carbon fiber yet. And 6 seats?
@farieddrianfariedadrian4675
@farieddrianfariedadrian4675 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe next electric plane stemme or sunseeker duo?
@Brough1111
@Brough1111 3 жыл бұрын
Great review 🙂
@RichardCInman
@RichardCInman 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you put the golf clubs?
@MariaOrLex
@MariaOrLex 3 жыл бұрын
great review
@pedrotaverasflow
@pedrotaverasflow 3 жыл бұрын
Great Job!!!
@NightSky777
@NightSky777 3 жыл бұрын
This is hands down my Favorite airplane. Visibility, Comfort, Size, Safety, etc. Maybe I'd change my mind if I flew in one. Wheels seem like the could make landings a bit stiff ?
@sandyprice
@sandyprice 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see a flight report. No flaps probably means landing faster. Would be interesting to know what landing in crosswinds is like.
@rileyswing9731
@rileyswing9731 3 жыл бұрын
Just gotta be better 😁
@speedomars
@speedomars 3 жыл бұрын
@@sandyprice For the turbo version landing speeds vary between 80 and 90kts. Faster than a Cirrus turbo.
@n6408s
@n6408s 3 жыл бұрын
@@speedomars Wrong. Turbo or not, landing speeds are the same. On mine, I’m on the ground at 70kts.
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
Not much stiff, but long. Flown in a Berkut-540. A tandem 2-seater thing similar to the Velocity.
@thomasgross2841
@thomasgross2841 3 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy these videos. But how do you get $300,000 as a price tag. If the kit is $75K, and the standard engine is $55K, that’s 130 K? Even with Velocity assistance that put you at 230 K. So how do you get up to $300K. Is the difference the upgrade in avionics?
@thewheelieguy
@thewheelieguy 3 жыл бұрын
Standard kit includes no interior or avionics. You will spend a great deal on supplies, and a paint job can easily be $10k.
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
The kit is just the airframe. Avionics like in this video are at least $30k. RG is another $20k Build-assist is $100k. It takes many hundred hours or build time by a professional aircraft builder. Even if you have the skills youself, you need a hangar with a lot of specialized machinery to build this yourself. It's not a just a couple wrenches and a drill from Home Depot. You'll likely need a welding machine, an engine lift, etc... All said and done probably not a solo job even for a professional. Kit-planes' grand total is MUCH more than the kit price :-(
@HitsInSandbox
@HitsInSandbox 2 жыл бұрын
No the Turbo just adds more maintenance costs and a higher chance of failure. Is there a way to put a Honda Motor in it?
@speedomars
@speedomars 2 жыл бұрын
You may want to actually try flying a turbo equipped aircraft before speaking. Nothing you said is true. And anyone trying to fly with a car motor is asking for real trouble for reasons you apparently do not also understand.
@RealRickCox
@RealRickCox 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'd have done my interior in those colors either... reminds me of something I'd see on "Pimp My Ride" LOL
@Optimus-Prime-Rib
@Optimus-Prime-Rib 2 жыл бұрын
Need a 6 seat version for my gang!
@agisler87
@agisler87 2 жыл бұрын
They are currently developing one. You can see some pictures of it on their website. I don't know about ETA.
@Optimus-Prime-Rib
@Optimus-Prime-Rib 2 жыл бұрын
@@agisler87 seriously?? Brilliant news! Thanks
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
The 2-engine Velocity is, I think. Costs double to fly though.
@JSomerled
@JSomerled 3 жыл бұрын
Price seems about right..
@merrytv1963
@merrytv1963 3 жыл бұрын
It like a car in the inside
@narco73
@narco73 3 жыл бұрын
what is that red fighter looking thing next to it? 2:50
@empresatextilesprivatelimi825
@empresatextilesprivatelimi825 3 жыл бұрын
Nice One..
@jermainewilliams9047
@jermainewilliams9047 2 жыл бұрын
What was your previous aircraft?
@HologramsLab
@HologramsLab 3 жыл бұрын
Flight! no talk.
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