Venom Destroys Juggernaut : The Controversial Story Explained

[@phengyang1971]

Juggernaut: I'm UNSTOPPABLE!! Wait! Oh-no! My only weakness! The writer's story plot!!!

[@rudycarreon4061]

Hahaha

[@jqjames]

Juggernaut runs away like a coward. Who in the hell is writing this Fucking GARBAGE? 🤮🗑

[@Bread_n_Butter.]

"The artist draws Juggernaut who weighs around 1000 lbs sitting on a wooden chair which makes no sense." People underestimate the supernatural power of inanimate objects in comics. lol

[@strenuousspider9525]

We have seen humans thrown through buildings and get up and run lol.

[@JimMilton55]

It's Vergils chair

[@jabs3816]

It’s hilarious how juggernaut gets yeeted away by everyone these days, at this rate he might as well be a street level character

[@RRolon999]

The very stoppable Juggernaut

[@AmorphousGoob]

Lmfao Juggernaut is treated like Rhino on steroids. Strong, yes. Stupid, yes. Taken as a joke despite his power, unfortunately yes.

[@private679r.i.c.o4]

Exactly

[@johnwinchesterp2963]

Yeah I mean I can get him being overconfident because he is a villain who would be too much in a serious fight but sometimes he is just too stupid.

[@ericjohnson-ds5ll]

Just like when spiderman beat him😔

[@johnwinchesterp2963]

@@ericjohnson-ds5ll To be fair this was basically luck with juggernaut not taking spider man seriously at all. I can buy that since every other time they have come across juggernaut showed this defeat would never happen again.

[@ericjohnson-ds5ll]

@@johnwinchesterp2963 wait the same situation when spiderman beat the hulk

[@The21Marine]

I love juggernaut but dam is he never portrayed accurately...

[@libertyprime1614]

It is not just juggernaut though but almost everyone, like Spider-Man 10-15 tonner lifting 80 tons and get beaten by "peak human condition" Captain America.

[@The21Marine]

@@libertyprime1614 for sure, but I feel as if juggernaut gets used as a plot device the most. Always being downplayed as a random encounter. At least with cap, he faught in wars and has decades of fighting experiences. In my opnion cap can definatly hold his own against spiderman, hes a tactician whose faught for more years than spiderman has been alive. If it was life and death, I'm afraid spiderman would most likely come out on top. Spiderman is ridiculously strong and agile, he just pulls his punches in fear of hurting someone.

[@libertyprime1614]

@@The21Marine "At least with cap, he faught in wars and has decades of fighting experiences". Yes but Cap doesn't utilize that instead, he goes full melee with a faster and stronger opponent and wins anyway. It is just bad writing heroes as strong as plots need them to be.

[@The21Marine]

@@libertyprime1614 cap constantly fights people stronger than him. It is completely reasonable that he can hold his own from a spiderman who pulls his punches. Speed and power is nothing if your opponent is a better fighter.(to a certain degree of course) cap has years of fighting exp and reading opponents. Spiderman may be smarter, but when it comes to hand and hand combat, cap is one of the best in the marvel universes

[@libertyprime1614]

@@The21Marine "if your opponent is a better fighter. (to a certain degree of course)" Yes and spiderman at that degree. Captain America stated to be peak human but constantly pulls out superhuman feats, which is my point. If cap actually only peak human he never would be able to punch spiderman who is stated to be 40x faster than the average (cap would be only 4x faster, making spiderman 10x faster than him) but even if he manages to land a hit he would break his own bones, because of spiderman muscles and bones tough enough to lift 10-20 tons which exceed even steels durability. If the writer wants to show caps experience, make him fight smarter, use enemy weaknesses, negate their abilities, nope most of the time he just uses some fighting style that heavily relies on speed and strength.

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Back when Venom was shoved into every comic and Rob Liefeld was king.

[@willpovik2328]

The story had potential but I always hate when a powerhouse gets rag-dolled just to amp up another character. seriously only a few characters can truly handle Juggernaut (Hulk, Thor, Sentry, blue marvel and maybe one or two others). I think a fair example of a lower power level fighting Juggs is the original fight between spiderman and juggernaut....spiderman couldn't do anything to him, it only ended with he tricked juggernaut into 40 feet of wet cement (which juggernaut walked out of once he hit bottom a few issues later). the classical true power of juggernaut is ridiculous with force fields and teleportation and magic usage ... thanks for the video

[@gogetathestrongestfusion]

Will Salda what about spider man shatter dimensions when spider man beat juggernaut

[@masterroshi1015]

Phoenix, Silver Surfer, Ghostrider, Powerman, Magneto, Franklin Richard, Iceman, Storm, Roque, Rulk, Doc Strange, Ironman, Spidey, Venom...quite a few

[@willpovik2328]

@@masterroshi1015 hate to say but your list is not accurate for classic juggernaut powerman not even in the same neighborhood, iceman, storm, rouge , have been stomped easily before, ironman, spidey and yes even venom(although the issue they met was an example of lower power level juggs just to amp up another character) all those characters get stomped and easily. classic doc strange ... actually used juggernaut to weaken cytorok so he could survive the encounter and even used the bands of cytrok to bind an enraged classic hulk more than once- it would not be an easy fight and it depends if cytorok gives juggs enough power to win , - rulk is a variation of hulk, silver surfer would have his hands really full and may not win juggs can literary tank just about anything surfer can dish out and can manage the speed difference by using teleportation , ghostrider is now ranked above cytorok but originally his flames did nothing to juggernaut, thor and a few others. - Franklin rewrites realities and has been shown to be reality bending at a multi universal scale.. so yes he could win. phoenix has so many ups and downs i guess maybe she can go and give cytorok a bloody nose nowadays but classic... not so much. your list is a perfect example of low scaling juggs huge powerset and abilities

[@antwan1357]

I remember this comic Venom had an extra power in this one from a secondary symbiote effect from something living in the sewer that Venom returned to it's natural habitat. It basically gave him harder spikes for one comic. Juggernaut faked drowning to get rid of Venom so he could get back to his date with the lady escort. As Juggernaut wasn't getting paid to fight Venom , and that escort was costing Juggernaut big booty credits. Despite not needing to eat , or even breathe. The Juggernaut still desires companionship , and I believe would even make a good father. Professor X would be an uncle too.

[@theonebegotten]

Juggernaut power is magic. Sitting in a chair is just that.

[@ranjitsmack1696]

Juggy needs to be reboot

[@royvincent7670]

the artist draws juggernaut who weighs around thousand pounds sitting in a wooden chair which actually makes no sense at all! OMFG i died laughing! hahahahahahahaha @ 5:28

[@houseadams4841]

Thor and Juggernaut should banned together, break the 4th Wall and put an end to them becoming jobbers for story plot and writer’s agendas.

[@MrInzombia]

damn why do writers hate juggernaut so much.

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Venom was empowered by the insanity demons.

[@frozenwaffle206]

Why create op characters if you're just gonna pretend his powers dont exist

[@alexanderarkum4793]

Venom was protected by popularity

[@knightchallenger]

Only in venom dreams

[@giacomocasalicchio624]

No I don't think so

[@giacomocasalicchio624]

He beat nova and colossus and in a crossover he beat superman, venom nearly beat the hulk before he discovered his weekness

[@giacomocasalicchio624]

Well it happened

[@knightchallenger]

I like venom, juggernaut, hulk always my faves but if the hulk can defeat gods,and rip Logan in half he can defeat venom without a doubt

[@giacomocasalicchio624]

But venom has the power to remember the powers of the previous host and venom bonded with hulk in a comic so it makes him as strong or stronger than hulk

[@ll7868]

The art is terrible, they look like those disproportionate "bodybuilders" that fill their muscles with oil.

[@spectrum8039]

I don't remember asking

[@ll7868]

Spectrum I don't remember caring if anyone asked.

[@RandomizationShow]

Spectrum Go home

[@quickattack8989]

@@spectrum8039 what the fuck is this response lol

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Welcome to nineties comics.

[@muriloopensador4864]

Recently Juggernaut was knocked out by a frost gigant with a bazooka... Definitely a jober, Punch bag

[@mikerude5073]

This is the same Juggernaut who in the classic comics (pre-2000) also tanked Thor's god-blast, an attack that even Galactus feared. The modern writers recently also took the Gem away from Juggernaut and drastically nerfed his power, and put him in a tacky looking costume with glowing red lines. Smaller and Weaker and not unstoppable. No wonder nobody buys this stuff when classic fan favorites are treated like trash these days.

[@richrand3503]

I have this comic, I always loved venom and jug as a kid and the the cover was all embossed. What a cool book

[@jqjames]

Juggernaut running from his enemy. WHO'S WRITING THIS BULLSHIT?😡

[@frankwhite6482]

Honestly he beat superman in that cross over back in the day

[@BannerIncredibleHulk]

I've made a video about it. Watch it.

[@TheDeathOfLucifer]

@@BannerIncredibleHulk no

[@KingxZangetsu]

......U even showed the deadpool cement truck defeat OH MAH SOUL MY ACHING SOUL !!

[@brothersofwrath4785]

paranoia looks like spectre

[@private679r.i.c.o4]

💯

[@dimitrisratza1554]

Yeah the art is pretty bad

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Everyone was aping Rob Liefeld and Jim Lee back then.

[@robanator9083]

Who did the art?

[@ChrisP58]

I just see a mega fight like this as one in which the surroundings are the only thing getting damaged and taking an L. Lol

[@ericreyes7018]

I hate how marvel has treated Cain in the last few years he is a powerhouse and one of the most powerful beings in the marvel universe I hope that someday he gets the respect he deserves

[@isaacrossetti4257]

Wow bad writers made venom both defeating superman and the juggernaut lol and both of them outclass venom for the categories of strength and durabilty, this is funny though

[@type_4410]

and then there was this one crossover of marvel and dc where superman beat juggernaut with one punch

[@mikerude5073]

@@type_4410 Technically, he knocked him down with one punch. Juggernaut was just standing there confused, and Superman blindsided him. After that, Juggernaut just kind of stared at Superman in awe, and nothing followed. Technically, lots of characters ought to be able to knock him down, especially when he isn't paying attention, as he isn't glued to the ground.

[@Otto1kun]

Eddie got friend Zoned!

[@ProtonCannon]

I admit I never read this story, now I gotta give the writers credit. At least they did give Venom a chemical-magical-demonic power amp to perform stronger than base level.

[@ericjohnson-ds5ll]

Still he shouldn't be able to beat juggernaut

[@guardianofthebeast1014]

@@ericjohnson-ds5ll actually, the SYMBIOTE can increase it's strength to rival it's opponents

[@ericjohnson-ds5ll]

@@guardianofthebeast1014 even if it can it still wouldn't be able to hurt juggernaut

[@NIRDSTUFF]

lol the part about juggernaut in the chair was hilarious

[@Extrasailor]

Juggernaut...immune to physical damage. Also Juggernauts helmet broken by Hulk and got beaten by Venom. I believe he was not immune to physical damage after all.

[@MrApple-qf3qo]

So the janitor gets no justice ... damn lol

[@magnusrutger8863]

The easily stopped, Jobbernaught!!

[@frankwhite6482]

Venom kicks ass again

[@Damnationization]

I like the Juggernaut and agree he is often treated like crap. They should have used Rhino. Rhino is powerful but not invulnerable like Juggernaut. I think the writers just wanted Venom to lose and make a come back. So as Stan Lee says It depends on who writes the story.

[@brothersofwrath4785]

the 98 pound jobbernaut the 1000 pound juggernaut=pancake venom

[@benparrish672]

Am I the only one that loves Marvel's SYMBIOTES so much that I'm coo with the weird fact that VENOM has defeated SUPERMAN & JUGGERNAUT?

[@umbraheart1]

My dude ur awesome u made a video bout what we talked about during red hulk vs juggernaut post thank you lol

[@aaronwherry62]

Did he even reply to ur comment from that post?

[@umbraheart1]

imberserk yajerk yeah I was telling him how juggy would destroy red hulk and we replied few times he brought up how venom beat juggernaut before and we talked bout the issues that happened. Mad cool

[@dorgenois100]

That's why these characters shouldn't be so damn powerful. It makes it to where stories are impossible at being accurate

[@Vercetti-b1i]

I bought this comic book along time ago at Super 1 Foods when I was 13, and im 32 now lol the front cover with venom's eyes glew in the dark and had a hard cover you could feel venom's eyes on the page lol memories. Wish I still had it

[@mr.sinister1279]

The juggernaut one of marvel’s strongest weakest villain!! So the name juggernaut does not match this villain since in all the movies and comics he seems to be getting dropped all the fkn time!! Most underrated mcu villain of all time!!

[@bigevil1001]

Expectation: Venom somehow defeating Juggernaut. Reality: Juggernaut literally KILLS Venom and Venom has to be saved from certain death. Venom gets a temporary power-boost and fights Juggernaut again...only to lose a second time. Then finally gets a couple good hits in prompting Juggernaut to withdrawal.

[@theonebegotten]

Jugs shouldn't even be able to walk on most floors without them breaking let alone a chair. Remember his powers are magic.

[@NoBody-dp3fq]

No cap that’s the ultimate tough he lost his gf lol

[@cfh_doomed8879]

Crazy...they need to have less.idiots right the juggernaut, no way in hell would venom win ...period

[@nilehoruseus]

Juggernaut is unstoppable well not always

[@Jotarou]

Absolutely horrible artwork and yes.....Juggy sitting on that wooden chair was ridiculous.

[@lobostang1]

like juggernaut couldn't pick up the concrete truck ? and in the story there was no reason to stay so he left. he could have beat venom

[@hades2659]

In my head cannon I just think that venom didn't actually hurt juggernaut or even defeat him but that he just tossed him around and juggernaut got bored. Though I'll do more research on juggernaut

[@quickcar5255]

5:25 LOL

[@ravenfrancis8803]

Nice I have part 2 and 3 comics of this 💪 next Hulk vs Venom.

[@jjhorrynyc]

I think this is the same crew that drew Batman v Dracula. I like this art!

[@annkoehler8017]

I'm really just scratching my head here. If you are an artist, that's wonderful, but there are certain styles that just don't work. And the panel with Venom hitting Paranoia makes Eddie look like The Maxx. How is it even possible for Venom to increase his strength and durability to such an astronomical level. It makes no sense, and this is nothing more than plot armor. It's a terrible story, and I can't believe the editor let it through. Might as well have Captain America go on a hissy-fit and kick Hulk's ass. Sure, Cap could end up "killing" Hulk as a last resort, using everything in his arsenal and calling in favors, but on a straight up fight, not even close. I'm just disappointed in Marvel over this entire debacle.

[@gogetathestrongestfusion]

People know venom can breath in water right

[@feverkane]

Hated the artwork on this one. Just awful.

[@benparrish672]

The 90's

[@BombzOnZombz]

Hey i remember this run.

[@jordanscott4543]

I don’t get the confusion. It’s not like it’s regular venom defeating juggernaut, from my understanding the madness made him stronger to ridiculous levels. It doesn’t outright say it but in their first encounter juggs absolutely thrashes venom, venom gets attached to the madness being and then venom is able to compete with juggs

[@House.Of.Pain.]

Is that a mullet I see? 👀

[@paulschumacher1113]

Venom defeating juggernaut is just stupid. At this point jubilee could beat juggernaut, it's ridiculous. Marvel writers must not like trashcan headed villians. And Deadpool beating him? I'm so sick of Deadpool. I actually liked him in the 90's but now he's a joke, focused on way too much and made to win fights he couldn't possibly win. I actually liked venom alot back in the day as well but the way he's been portrayed in the past few years and overhyped has killed my enthusiasm. Huge marvel fan but damn, I hate that two characters I use to like are completely ruined now.

[@tree3674]

Nightmare fuel @2:50

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Juggy's anatomy is a eyesore.

[@giacomocasalicchio624]

Wow venom is really strong

[@gevorgmovsisian2025]

Juggernaut is 1000 times stronger than Venom.

[@Ivan18SM]

For sure

[@itsmeevan]

Did you ever do a video of that ridiculous time venom beat spiderman and superman at the same time it was in access comic

[@BannerIncredibleHulk]

Yes, look it up. Venom Destroys Superman.

[@ChristianRodriguez-mh9xt]

I am not feeling this artwork. Juggs arms are drawn so weird

[@turokcam848]

Juggernaut is strong,not smart

[@premeexcel6408]

It sounds like Juggernaut got the upper hand. What am I missing?

[@Bengal1677]

It's funny to me how everyone gets so but hurt when juggernaut gets beat by someone not as strong as him. Every powerhouse in Marvel has taken a L from someone weaker then them. Pour juggernaut the bully who once he couldn't bully his stepbrother had to go get a demon to again bully his now crippled brother..juggernaut is not unbelievable no character in comics is..except the one above all.

[@gogetathestrongestfusion]

Bengal1677 ok

[@Bengal1677]

@@LumosTheromax what's up buddy! I for the life of me i couldn't find our last conversation. I was trying to reply but it was like the entire thread was gone. But yeah I get it Hulk has also been kicked in the stomach by batman right after tanking a missile unfazed. But it happened it's silly but it happened. The fact that juggernaut could take the God blast without being harmed makes no sense. Thanos being beat by squirrel girl , Gamora makes no sense.

[@Bengal1677]

@@LumosTheromax so is galactus. Galactus can absorb all forms of energy all forms. That being said the god blast shouldn't hurt him it should feed him. Galactus has gone toe to toe with the Phoenix force and to a stalemate. I don't think that was the full force of the Phoenix force I'd have to do some research what I do know is Cyttorak said himself that in his domain he was stronger than 20% of the Phoenix force not outside of it. It's the same way with all the other's like him. I keep seeing people calling him a God he's not he is a demon Lord people at one time worship him as a God that's his history.

[@Bengal1677]

@@LumosTheromax the fact that they both absorb all forms of energy it should be a stalemate but it was Jean Gray as the Phoenix but are they using the full force of the Phoenix i don't know. But Galctus does fatigue i will say that. Actually Colossus it Cyttorack favorite avatar he is quoted saying that. The actual quote straight from the pages of the comic concerning the Phoenix goes like this (understand this. A demon lord in his domain is outside natural law. Do not dream that even with a fifth of that great power you can face me here.) And in Trion juggernaut I'll give you another quote straight from the comic itself. ( the second jem was imbued with the evil spirit of it's creator the eternal nemesis of the Trion! It's using cain ta take over this entire dimension The Trion and rule in its stead) it also says cain went into a mindless rage..he was not in control it was a evil entaty in the Trion dimension who was in control not cyttorak. And it was in another domination so Trion juggernaut is irrelevant just as celestial hulk or space punisher hulk who is way beyond Trion juggernaut easily killing God's. Don't get me wrong Juggernaut is a beast Cyttorack is a beast but he is one of the worst to be a avatar for...he is a demon to see him let his avatar lose ist not surprising.

[@Bengal1677]

@@LumosTheromax in the end he cain was not in control. I will purchase this book myself because you can only get bits and pieces from thread's. Seeing as to how the second gem had no power until it was siphoned from cain doesn't seem consistent to me because he should still have two gems with the capability of doing that again he doesn't. And you proved my point that juggernaut with Cain as the host can't be limitless because of the human limitations. From the part's of this comic that i have been able to see the story is a page out of a hulk story Cain taking a back seat to whatever is controlling his body. I won't be missing out on the next juggernaut run.

[@RandomizationShow]

Theoretically, wouldn’t Venom win anyway? If even characters like Hulk and Silver Surfer are vulnerable to symbiote possession, then I would think Juggs is too. Unless maybe he pulls a thunderclap at the right time. And this artist is all over the place 😂 some shots are downright awesome while others are repulsively disproportionate. Smells like tracing

[@meatpuppet7712]

The gem of Cytorak give a magical impenetrable forcefield that even Thors hammers can't penetrate. A symbiote wouldn't do anything.

[@muhammadbanner4639]

I think Venom is stronger than him

[@shaundouglas2057]

Well that was a craptacular comic.

[@intergalactic4160]

You can’t win them all lol stop being bias to juggernaut and hulk.

[@d00med74]

👀

[@renesalinas1029]

I hate the art style

[@latintiger]

im sorry but the art is terrible

[@S0ulGh0st]

The art style in this one is ugly!

[@thedarkone9917]

Venom is stronger cuze of his healing, he my fav villain and one more who can defeat this jug

[@stephenmcginley1961]

Venoms my favorite villain too but he ain’t in juggernauts league without writers intent 9/10 jugg would win

[@thedarkone9917]

@@stephenmcginley1961 nah

[@giacomocasalicchio624]

@@stephenmcginley1961 venom beat nova, colossus, the thing and nearly killed namor and nearly beat the hulk before the hulk discovered his weekness

[@giacomocasalicchio624]

Venom wins

[@stephenmcginley1961]

Giacomo Casalicchio I remember him fighting the hulk one time in an old comic and he got that ass whooped what are you talking about lol

[@apexyum5365]

Trash script!!!! Juggernaut the best heavyweight the Marvel Universe very better that trash hulk!

[@BannerIncredibleHulk]

Your English is the only thing trash around :-}

[@Roejwhdoekdjsowj139]

@@BannerIncredibleHulk well it isnt his first language..

[@boymight121]

I am first

[@guardianofthebeast1014]

As usual people don't know what they're talking about. THE SYMBIOTE CAN BE AS STRONG AS WHATEVER IT IS FACING. LOOK IT UP

[@BannerIncredibleHulk]

The symbiote has never been in Juggernaut's league.