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[@timmyreobed5043]

"If I had a nickel for every time a symbiote-bound criminal was murdered by a psychologically damaged anime kid, I would have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?"

[@Zitsanrael1117]

DOOOOOOOOOM!

[@michaeldemiurgos4521]

Doofenshmirtz is underrated

[@salvatoreragolia9971]

Is this a motherfuking jojo reference?!?

[@ChronoEclipse]

Ah yes a Phineas and Ferb reference haha

[@blackmercury2796]

Do you read the blog too?

[@LevelUpLeo]

Crona: I hate you... Carnage: HEY! THAT'S MY LINE!

[@poseidon2363]

*Anakin

[@plusultra12001]

Nemesis Prime *Nemo

[@masterdonut5]

*bakugou

[@DivydeByZer0]

They should've said, "You are nothing compared to my nightmares!"

[@joshshoff5027]

Did you know that line is why she's not allowed to live in Gresham, Oregon any longer? "Hate is not a Gresham value."

[@smashfan2719]

Venom: So your Mom treated you like trash. Crona: Yah “sigh” Venom: That’s rough buddy.

[@lakshaykochhar6799]

Seeing all these comments, really makes me think that these two would get along.

[@renatayuuki5705]

Mommy issues

[@CollegeDroputPowerpoints]

Venom: I wish I knew my mom

[@michaelgarcia5680]

@@lakshaykochhar6799it depends if you wanna use Crona from the anime(who stayed a good guy) or Crona from the manga(the one who went back to being evil). Anime Crona would be way more chill with Venom. Manga Crona on the other hand… not so much.

[@mingjiechen62]

​@@michaelgarcia5680Venom to, in comics some he anti-hero, but the 2007 Spider Man 3 one is like he had vengeance on Peter so he literally a antagonist in this while the 2018 Venom, Eddie just lost his job and his wife mentally and got attached to a symbiote become a lethal protector

[@animegx45]

Venom: So are you a man or a woman? Crona: I am a nihilist. Venom: What gender are you? Crona: Depressed. Venom: Yeah, but what's in your pants? Crona: Gloom!

[@adambump5297]

Venom:(Facepalms)...Oh my God!

[@jadenpark7943]

venom/eddie is bi

[@adambump5297]

@@jadenpark7943 I don't think that's true first off Eddie is definitely straight he was engaged to be married to a woman well the Symbiote is genderless and asexual but portrayed as male.

[@guinevereemilysummers9945]

@@adambump5297 You do realise someone could be bi and date someone of the opposite sex? That's literally the point of bisexual you dummy. The Symbiote adopts the gender expression of the person it is attached to, they don't have human genders, and reproduce asexually.

[@freemasonslayer]

@@guinevereemilysummers9945 is there any proof he's bi tho?

[@spaghettiwizard2551]

"Let's have a combatant whos primary weakness is sound fight a combatant whos primary weapon is sound" "Sounds like a fair fight to me"

[@EzekiesAcheron]

When DB pair up fights they don't look at that, they go by characters who are similar. It's not about the fights being fair. For example, Crona has her black goop blood Venom has black goop symbiote. Cool that sounds like an awesome fight, let's get to researching. I'm really surprised people haven't noticed this pattern yet >_>

[@mineyminecraftf5019]

@@EzekiesAcheron well I mean it’s not going to be an awesome fight if you know who’s going to win. They literally put Venom against someone who’s main power is his weakness.

[@EzekiesAcheron]

@@mineyminecraftf5019 To be fair I didn't know much about Venom's weakness to high pitched sound, so I had no idea which way it would turn out, I was just rootin' for Crona.

[@aulusagerius8540]

Lol just because A possesses B's weakness doesn't mean the fight is unfair or uninteresting. The entire point of these fights is how characters' abilities act and counteract one another. By that logic Batman VS CA Superman is an unfair fight in favor of Batman because he has access to kryptonite.

[@mineyminecraftf5019]

@@aulusagerius8540 No Batman vs Superman was interesting because those two been had a rivalry between each other. There was build up. This one wasn’t interesting because there was NO way for venom to even attempt at winning this. And by the point of these fights is not how one person counters another. It’s to see who would win in a fight. Hard countering and fighting are two different things.

[@chhaysour5241]

Hey,look, another symbiote fighting a powerful depressed young anime character with a bad childhood.

[@afanofmoodyblues7941]

Wow!!! I wOuld't HaVe NotIcE thHHatT

[@Superdupper294]

Lol😂😂😂😂😂

[@wicked.a950]

This also has multiple personalities!

[@raylevi5343]

@@wicked.a950 The first one did too.

[@phanta2199]

they both also have pink hair

[@jamicaparty2860]

*In the afterlife* Carnage: So, you were killed by a pink haired anime girl too huh? 😕 Venom: Yep 😒

[@georgewash5513]

Ace: pink-haired character, Hein tell me about that.

[@mydeadlyadventuredescanorj9756]

What isn’t Crona a boy

[@why7450]

@@mydeadlyadventuredescanorj9756 cronas gender was never confirmed i think

[@mydeadlyadventuredescanorj9756]

@@why7450 the second greatest anime mystery

[@ves5657]

@@why7450 Crona was deliberately designed to be genderless. In the original Japanese version, they referred to Crona without using any pronouns at all! However, when the manga was translated into English (and subsequently adapted into an anime), they/them pronouns weren't particularly well-known at the time. They didn't want to use it/its pronouns because they felt it might sound too disrespectful, so they settled with he/him pronouns. Also, when they decided on he/him, they didn't actually intend for it to signify Crona as male or masculine, but rather, it was intended to reference mankind/humankind in general. In the same way that sometimes "man" or "men" stands for all of humankind, regardless of sex or gender. However, much much later, Crona's pronouns in the manga's official English translation got switched to they/them- further cementing the creator's intent for Crona to be non-binary.

[@thorveim1174]

Death lookign goofy actually HAS a good reason behind it: its that death wanted to open a school to train meisters, but children were terrified of him and would just run away. So basically he changed his look and demeanor to goofy ones to appeal to children, and he's been using that personnality for so long it takes a LOT for him to be completely serious and scary again.

[@vincentmarcellino7183]

We see him be serious against Asura but even then he doesn't change his look

[@flyingcow8171]

I would like this but the amount of likes is a multiple of 5 and it would infuriate me to change that

[@chukyuniqul]

@@flyingcow8171 well I just liked it so you can like it too and it wll be 90 which is a multiple of 5 again.

[@flyingcow8171]

@@chukyuniqul lets gooo

[@joshuakim5240]

He even changed his voice to be goofier to be more appealing. His true voice occasionally slips when he's extremely pissed off (a feat that is surprisingly hard to do) and said voice combined with his old look is pretty much a classic grim reaper.

[@SunscaleTheGrey]

Fun fact: death from soul eater had to change his appearance to the iconic goofy looking grim reaper when he founded the dwma because his original appearance terrified every human that he tried to recruit

[@SunscaleTheGrey]

@Vee Plushie i just now remembered that! His voice even changed to his original voice when he tried to fight the kishin after he awakened

[@nothyper-beam6436]

Im pretty sure it was just the kids because death had an entire team of weapons and meisters

[@SunscaleTheGrey]

@@nothyper-beam6436 that might also be true

[@SunscaleTheGrey]

@@nothyper-beam6436 it's been a few years since i last watched soul eater

[@Nerdyy5]

Ah a man of culture I see!

[@carlosmunguia3843]

Symbiotes' weaknesses: -Sound -Fire -Sad anime kids

[@tommysilveria5108]

Simbiote X would like to have a word with you

[@mas8705]

-Pink haired Psychopaths

[@gillettematch3188]

did you know heroes wins 99% of all the battles in this channel when they fight against villain, mercs or anti-heroes even in fights they shouldn't win? only time a villain manage to beat a hero was because: A) It was from DC and. B) It was doomsday edit: 98% then for the people below i forgot about gray vs esdeath.

[@Omni-dude162]

@@gillettematch3188 esdeath killed grey in their death battle just this season.

[@esteban8471]

@@gillettematch3188 Gray vs Esdeath would like to have a word with you.

[@kingtallzilla6919]

To be honest at first I thought Venom was going to win. Mostly because I'm not well known with the soul eater lore, but the very first time I heard Corona having sound attacks I knew that Eddie had already lost

[@DoomsdayR3sistance]

Knowing the two characters, I just knew it was going to come down to Venom having no real counter to scream resonance, any character with any type of vulnerability to sound is doomed against Crona, even characters without vulnerabilities take stupid amounts of damage from it

[@madslayer4197]

Venom has better feats they just didn't address them

[@73NSH1]

@@DoomsdayR3sistance Are you kidding me or you don't truly know venom at all

[@73NSH1]

Actually know venom gains resistance trough time

[@73NSH1]

And also venom is also smarter and strategic as a predator it not only would gain invulnerability to crona's attacks because of adapting to them

[@neutralhail4186]

Crona is honestly the most adorable, but also the most horrifyingly and terrifying character in Soul Eater.

[@cantmakeacreativename2072]

That’s… not how grammar works but honestly it gets a pass due to just how fitting it is for Corona lmao.

[@user-cn7oj3ws8q]

@@cantmakeacreativename2072 corona?

[@JimmyButlersdreads]

​@@cantmakeacreativename2072-🤓

[@whitneyANDbunny]

her depression is so comical 😂 then being slapped around

[@dude4310]

I know! They’re my favorite character in the entire Soul Eater series. However, especially in the manga, they’re the most terrifying character in the whole Soul Eater series to me lol.

[@randyrogers9764]

Spoiler: I liked the detail of Venom’s soul being a kishin egg

[@ikesimerson3382]

Randy Rogers a what

[@batmanbeyond6815]

Ike Simerson A kishin egg is a soul in danger of becoming a Kishin, which is demon that spreads madness. A soul becomes a kishin egg when they become corrupted with evil. Venom, given his history of killing, would definitely be a Kishin egg.

[@pugking1233]

I liked that little detail to

[@damnfeds7032]

nOlinagirlasia.link

[@Juan-cd4rn]

Randy roger venom is a black egg and Eddie is kishin

[@rishimitra1778]

Next time on Death Battle: The moon from Soul Eater Vs The Sun from Teletubbies

[@GlaZim]

*dude you are a genius*

[@judethecar7515]

The sun would win

[@leifster7762]

The moon from Majora's Mask

[@orioli14]

Sun stomps 9/10

[@percivalknightoftheflames855]

@@orioli14 yep😂

[@YeeYee484]

“Let’s make venom fight a speaker! That’s a good idea! Venom has a chance.”

[@Hugo-MTX96]

Did they state it was a fair fight? no. idk how long youve been watching death battle but they don't pit characters against each other in fairness but only if they have something similar like these two being two beings sharing one body. dumbass

[@MadPerfect3.5]

@@Hugo-MTX96 Yeah, I agree with you, let's give goku a kryptonite form and red sun powers to fight superman. I wonder who will win :D

[@hyperraidsaerofrights5649]

​@@Hugo-MTX96 The fight won't be as fun if you know who's going to win, now wouldn't it?

[@BrownSillyCat]

@@Hugo-MTX96 I agree too, lets put venom vs a speaker!

[@playerstation5624]

@@hyperraidsaerofrights5649 superman has Villains who use kryptonite (metallo and lex luthor) and he still manage to kick their ass

[@lazuardialdi2646]

Carnage: I Hate you *Loses* Crona: I Hate you *Wins*

[@mingjiechen62]

That I say other way around like Carnage:Symbiote I Hate you then Crona:I Hate you

[@zacharyfrierson6972]

Venom: "We are the ones hiding under your bed. Teeth ground sharp and eyes glowing red." Nice callback to "This is Halloween" from The Nightmare Before Christmas.

[@redsteel1151]

Also if you look around on KZbin you'll find a lot of soul eater The nightmare before Christmas(this isHalloween) AMVs.

[@zacharyfrierson6972]

@@redsteel1151 Cool.

[@Isharne]

Was thinking about This is Halloween earlier today, what a coincidink

[@Jash2o2]

@@redsteel1151 Actually the top soul eater version has more views than the nightmare before christmas video.

[@gabrielmorales4029]

Crona is literally just a living speaker who can move fast af, basically Venom's biggest weakness.

[@markuseavids5362]

More like the speaker is attached to them and bullies them into fighting.

[@AnAngryMagpie]

I love you for that description

[@niharg2011]

Wiz : Calculates the amount of energy needed to destroy a Ukranian City *Putin : Notes that down*

[@moonworld5517]

Dude??????

[@michaelgarcia5680]

@@moonworld5517is he wrong?

[@wessmoore7894]

@@michaelgarcia5680I mean Putin’s gotten it wrong repeatedly and it’s backfiring on him left and right lol

[@duphasdan]

7:20 He used to be much scarier. He only made himself look appealing and cute after he founded the school, as the children were constantly frightened by him.

[@dartdevious561]

Venom: "Two brains for the price of one." Ragnarok: "WHAT? CRONA DOESN'T HAVE A BRAIN!"

[@austinpayne9996]

He has two brains, I don’t think I can deal with that right now

[@justsomeguywithamask2784]

🤣 🧠

[@michaeldemiurgos4521]

Venom: *gets killed by an pink haired anime character* Carnage: sucks doesn’t it?

[@kieranhornett816]

Michael Demiurgos45 these two deserve rematches of each episode

[@eliasmagus5086]

@@kieranhornett816 why

[@GlaZim]

@@eliasmagus5086 because they are scary AF

[@gun7035]

@@GlaZim or his toxic

[@gun7035]

@@eliasmagus5086 or his toxic

[@anightmareonpokestreet5882]

There is a way Crona could have avoided fighting Venom altogether. Venom: (grabs Crona by the throat and lifts him up) "Eyes, lungs, pancreas. So many snacks so little time." Crona: (whimpers while Venom sadistically licks his face) "Read this, please!" (holds up a poem he wrote in Venom's face) Venom: (confused, he takes a quick look at the poem before putting Crona down, walking over to the adjacent wall and sitting down facing toward it) "This makes me wish I'd never been born." Crona: (deciding to join Venom in sulking, he sits down at his left) "I wish that I'd never been born." Boomstick: (appearing out of nowhere, sulking at Venom's right) "I wish that my dad had never abandoned me." Venom: (startled by Boomstick's sudden appearance) "What the?! Who're you, and where'd you come from?!"

[@lenzi5119]

haha

[@xanderscookingschool1497]

Love that reference.

[@emerald_digger5192]

Crona the living Anti-life equation. Darkseid approves

[@charmzee8749]

Honestly…it freaking makes sense but idk why?

[@mingjiechen62]

​@@xanderscookingschool1497Same, my favorite scene in 2018 movie Venom were he first he fully transforms

[@benc.delacruz1813]

You know, symbiotes always get some of the coolest moments in this series. Between “Pop goes the weasel,” “Carnage is starving,” and a Nightmare Before Christmas reference, they just always get the best moments.

[@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730]

I wonder if that's a vague reference to how Soul Eater is published by Square Enix, who made Kingdom Hearts, which has a "Nightmare Before Christmas" world.

[@HeavyShores]

“I hate you!” Kenobi: Anakin, start panakin. I don’t have a planakin

[@user-yv3ke7mg2l]

Anakin;Well Kenobi, I don't knobie.

[@shikigranbell7608]

@@user-yv3ke7mg2l anakin:damn i never should have been a KNOOBIE(NOOB).

[@thehorseformerlywithoutana2522]

Damn. I really want to like your comment but I wouldn't dare ruin such a perfect number.

[@nathank2289]

Finn: uh... REEEEEEYYYYYYYYYY

[@jrkularatne2900]

Awe what happened

[@AnonymousFlower5]

Last line in Carnage vs. Lucy: "I hate you." Last line in this video: "I hate you." I don't want to believe this was a coincidence.

[@PeterParker-ff7ub]

How often do you think anyone says that

[@mrreyes5004]

Crona: "I hate you..." Carnage: *_*Proud thumbs-up from the fires of Hell.*_*

[@zillymario64]

In the Death Battle cast when they said that this battle was alot like Carnage vs Lucy they weren't-a kiddin'. Even though I really believe Carnage could/would have won that fight.

[@IronFerret62]

@@zillymario64 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIOnm6CNmNCjrc0 they completely screwed Carnage on that Death Battle. Like how they screwed Thor in Thor vs Wonderwoman. Or Wonderwoman in Rogue vs Wonderwoman

[@SamJonesS4mmyd48ull]

@@zillymario64 I agree. I think Venom should have had this one, as well.

[@pg3dgaming634]

1:05: Venom Preview 7:07: Crona Preview 13:56: The Fight 19:46: Next Battle You're welcome

[@projectd.s.g462]

5:40 Morbius

[@kingkabal5581]

I feel like this one might be much more fair with current Venom, since he's much stronger

[@justarandomguywithamask7o7]

Lmao crona would still win mid dif

[@multiversalchad5372]

@@justarandomguywithamask7o7 nope if u are talking about movie or this one then yah but comics....nope

[@justarandomguywithamask7o7]

@@multiversalchad5372 I'm actually referring to mcu venom since idk about the comics feat

[@multiversalchad5372]

@@justarandomguywithamask7o7 oh ok...

[@RedditStorytimeTales]

venom is literally the god of symbiotes now

[@UntitIed123]

At first I thought it said: “Venom Vs. Corona”.

[@ziingkeanengui1671]

INTERESTING

[@ASSASSIN19923]

same

[@Nathan0973]

Same

[@shoutmondx8740]

Bruh what's wrong with your face...ITS SCARING ME

[@mavendeo]

Yeah, the Venom symbiote didn't exactly seem like the "social distancing" type. Not to mention he rarely ever wears a mask.

[@ervineaddy528]

Venom and Carnage: we hate you Lucy and Crona: we hate you too

[@Fvkzxro]

Tbh I prefer to call her kaede it just sounds cooler

[@GbrJose]

Deadpool: And I hate you all

[@markfrey6664]

Actually Crona wouldn't know how to deal with that hate.

[@JLFans2019Singapore]

Carnage and Crona: I hate you Carnage and Venom dies The winners are Lucy and Crona

[@sekani9761]

@XTRA V1CI0US stop

[@Silverwind87]

Venom: Your pronouns are they/them because you are non-binary. Our pronouns are they/them because we are LITERALLY two MFs. WE ARE NOT THE SAME!

[@rain028]

I just noticed the similarities Crona and Venom have. This was very interesting to watch.

[@yohomiejohn6604]

one carries a symboite that's black, while the other one's blood *IS* black

[@markfuston2714]

I don't know a lot about Soul Eater, but after hearing Crona's powers this was a super unbalanced fight..lol

[@Djr2699]

RIGHT, like what was the point of this one?

[@Movienut1992]

I agree. It's been decidedly canon for years that the symbiotes' greatest weakness is sound. Crona's primarily ability is a sonic blast that can damage living metal. Definitely one of the most unbalanced Death Battles.

[@baldabouyee9557]

Yeah, because the only way you can actually beat Crona is when it comes to his soul so people like Ghost Rider and Spawn could beat him, so why not have one of those two face Crona??

[@xboxfanboy59]

@@baldabouyee9557 venom in the comics fought ghosts , also to be fair if they are using classic venom. Hes comparable to classic spider man whos able to dodge laser and light. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/498285033107357706/764520139218878474/2238384-feat31speednm8.jpg cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/498285033107357706/764520218177175612/4861505-7007598035-397207.jpeg

[@baldabouyee9557]

@@xboxfanboy59 I see I see, but even then he just can't beat Crona, and don't worry I'm not a fan of the character I do like the anime but I was always more of a Marvel person anyways. I just don't know too much about venom, more so about Deadpool, Batman, and Spawn of all peeps. But even then, Venom literally can't beat the kid, he would still attacks from a supernatural sythe, even point blank bullets and stuff, Venom literally has no way of defeating Crona and that's why I don't think he's a good enough match. and it's not just him but pretty much a majority of physical characters who can't really tamper with souls. The only characters I know who can pretty much defeat him is soul stealers and such. Physical attacks will do nothing to Crona because of the black blood he has which is essentially that Ragnarok character coming from his back.

[@RacerGuy450]

“We are the ones hiding under your bed, teeth ground sharp and eyes glowing red!”

[@TerminatorGundam300]

I would've pegged Venom more as: 🎵"We are the ones hiding under your stairs, fingers like snakes and spiders in our hair"🎵

[@sparkplusultra9289]

Dude now that great and horrifying at the same time We are two beings that live in the darkness we are the one’s that feeds on your flesh we are VENOM

[@shaun2timez655]

Best line in the video

[@jaxolith1]

There actually is a pretty fantastic AMV to soul eater using that this is halloween song. I kinda guess them throwing in that line is maybe a reference to that AMV.

[@boomboylags9236]

“I am the one Hiding under Your stairs Fingers like snakes and spiders in my hair”

[@flizzaldo2015]

This is like making Superman fight a man made out of kryptonite

[@wallsterrence]

but he has multiple times one of them being doomsday

[@flizzaldo2015]

@@wallsterrence I know. But that was the first comparison that I thought of

[@thijsdeboer389]

you guys did a great job capturing the personalities of the characters!!

[@spaghettimaster9368]

How ironic. This time the “I hate you” came from the winner.

[@danteredgrave120]

This to me was the icing on the cake. I have had it with death battle and their stupid "fair" fights. Venom little had no chance against this emo kid cause of sound. Even more so to the face he was basically outmatched by the kid..again how is that fair? Its not

[@Cell287]

Dante Redgrave cause people requested it. They asked for this. Not DB.

[@kakarot4575]

Indeed the last time it was carnage vs lucy he said the same thing... before he went kaboom

[@danteredgrave120]

@@Cell287 and? They little could have gotten another venom but they chose this one who still isn't the strongest and still weak to sound. The emo kid? Oooh give him the best weapon of the final arc and his super black blood and definitely make him OP. Nope that was it for me

[@gillettematch3188]

did you know heroes wins 99% of all the battles in this channel when they fight against villain, mercs or anti-heroes even in fights they shouldn't win? only time a villain manage to beat a hero was because: A) It was from DC and. B) It was doomsday

[@danagray9709]

Regarding death's appearance, he made himself look silly on purpose because he didn't want to scare his students at the school. When he fights seriously, he looks much more impressive.

[@silentbutdeadly3780]

Yeah, he used to be much more terrifying

[@Hashbrown1682]

Goofball or serious. Everyone gonna get that *SHINIGAMI CHOP*

[@tetraforcetheory9717]

@@Hashbrown1682 Special Attack! COFFEE TABLE FLIIIIIIP!!!!

[@H3llr4z0r]

Are you an alternate universe Dana White?

[@zzay3345]

@@H3llr4z0r Following LOTR logic. He has to die to come back as Dana The White.

[@Eldrisaur]

Considering their weakness, Venom put up a really good fight

[@thenumber27issomehowtaken]

They really took the thing with a weakness to sound against the person who’s power is making loud noise

[@genegarret2244]

" here is venom hes pretty cool weak to sonic sounds though" "And here is his opponent, uses sonic sounds, this should be a fair fight"

[@Xendruis]

Stupid Match up. Expect nothing else

[@unruly_ronin]

But there's so many similarities that makes this matchup reasonable. They both have black symbiotic goo partners to fight with. She wasn't chosen coz she has sound. You know what that sounds like, imagine if Crona had a weakness to webs. Would you say, "oh an unfair matchup" and literally ignore everything else about it, like c'mon buddy.

[@genegarret2244]

@@unruly_ronin I know they are matched because of similarities, but she has a clear edge with the sonic attacks which has been one of venoms 2 greatest weaknesses. So while at a glance yes similar, but power wise one has a definite advantage.

[@sirlarius3605]

@@genegarret2244 guys it's they

[@wanderwaffles3113]

@@sirlarius3605 is a he?

[@Xcallion]

Me looking at the thumbnail: "Doesn't Crona live and die off of sound based attacks... which are Venom's main weakness?"

[@user-yv3ke7mg2l]

Apparently he changed that out for electricity..? I read it on one of these comments. So don't ask me if that's real or false.

[@CommanderSal]

@@user-yv3ke7mg2l Check my post

[@user-yv3ke7mg2l]

@@CommanderSal Well, all I could really say is, don't feel bad about being salty. I cried tears of salt and blood when Sonic lost.

[@HeilRay]

@@user-yv3ke7mg2l That sounds like what Carnage did. Trading sound and Fire attack weaknesses.

[@reinhartnata47]

Should have used the meat gardener venom to catch up on the op-ness of anime characters

[@xXRobin2004]

Batman: I am Vengeance, I am the Knight, I am Batman! Venom: We are the Darkness, We are your Nightmare, We are Venom! 16:45

[@Saiavinn]

Have to admit, I really like the sprite rendition of Chrona's creepy, dead smile

[@kziila0244]

If Venom doesn’t have his sound resistance, he’s toast.

[@mason9003]

True, but venom has the advantage in versatility and raw brute strength. If venoms fast enough he could dodge crona's attacks and come out on top

[@williamturner6192]

@@mason9003 eh, Crona and Ragnarok did a lot of the moon feet themselves in the manga and DB does sometimes give powerups. Since Crona currently has it in-canon DB might go with the full moon feat too. Venom will have to surprise me in power to break through the magic blood or to overpower in other ways.

[@mason9003]

True but you're forgetting one thing... Venom can move detach from Eddie and infect another host So going of that logic if crona manages to separate the two venom can just infect crona/ Ragnarok and kill them from the inside out

[@kziila0244]

Mason Glover Ah, but Ragnarok is also like a Symbiote in some ways. Both can create weapons out of their own body, both can act as some sort of armor for their hosts, both have some degree of control over their hosts’ bodies, etc. Ragnorok is basically Corona’s Venom. Plus, Ragnorok and Corona operate under the wavelength of Madness, making it hard to break their minds.

[@kziila0244]

Mason Glover However, your words do hold merit. Venom is lot more powerful, durable, and most likely faster.

[@littykitty040]

Okay but now I need to know who's stronger: the Soul Eater moon or the Majora's Mask moon?

[@JesGasai]

Asking the real questions.

[@DracoMagnius]

Majora's Mask Moon. It's a full moon and obliterates all of Termina when it falls. The Soul Eater Moon is a crescent moon and doesn't have the full mass of a full moon so there is a chance that if it fell there could be survivors.

[@apassionatenerd.3564]

OMFG YES, I WANT A DEATH BATTLE BETWEEN THE TERRIFYING MOONS SO BAD NOW LMAO

[@Thecor13]

@@DracoMagnius our moon is supposedly hollow and this one has teeth. they should still be comparable

[@DracoMagnius]

@@Thecor13 But Crona opened the Moons mouth and it stands to reason it's also hollow. Plus consider that inside the Majora Moon there's a grassy hill with a tree on it. When Link gets swallowed by the moon he ends up on that grassy hill so maybe the Majora Moon isn't hollow.

[@22dolls19]

"It's....different" *shows the running death city* I couldn't have expressed it better 😂😂

[@PKSkyler]

Can you guys please re do this or make Venom fight someone stronger using all his new feats from new comics such as Absolute Carnage and The King in Black?

[@reactionguy4908]

Venom would win then no chance

[@dreadmetal6558]

In absolute carnge venom gets stronger but the thing that kill the Celestial and knull is the enigme force not venom

[@sekani9761]

Temporary amps

[@PKSkyler]

@@dreadmetal6558 Eddie Brock solo beats a super powered Carnage who also absorbed Venom and beat VenomHulk.

[@dreadmetal6558]

@@PKSkyler king in black the thing that wins is not venom

[@ForeverLaxx]

Looks to be another example of two characters that look similar enough on paper at first glance to be a "natural" fight, but when broken down to the specifics one character is completely outmatched by the other in every possible category *and* has an attack set that just so happens to prey on the other's weaknesses. Not sure this should have really been a fight, honestly.

[@Antasma1]

Ryuko is another character that uses something similar to a symbiote

[@HeartearthScar]

Natsu vs Ace remastered, change my mind

[@ivedonenothingbutteleportb8533]

Like the Mario vs Sonic one

[@PrinMasterGeneral]

@Roman Francis Sabo would win

[@PrinMasterGeneral]

This was completely bias. They used a character who specifically uses sound base attacks. Against a character who's weakness is sound and fire. That's just bias.

[@generalkenobidaily4642]

Saying the world of Soul Eater is “different” is a massive understatement

[@thinkfighttalk2403]

Ah Soul eater. The Sun is smiling, the snakes are witches and the the people are guns. Truly a place to live

[@Quinmcgaming]

Hello there

[@joshharrison9054]

(QuinmcGaming) General Kenobi you are a bold one

[@OhayouEdboy]

@@thinkfighttalk2403 this is the best description of Soul Eater

[@juliansummers5983]

And some average Joe might want to kill you with the soul Purpose of Devouring your immortal soul

[@thomaslamson299]

Soul Eater lowkey looks like what would happen if Tim Burton was the Mangaka for Bleach.

[@bibbybuxx]

This needs a rematch, this was not Venom at his strongest, especially when Venom beat Knull himself and became the Symbiote God

[@zacharybosley1935]

The King In Black is basically a whole new symbiote. Bedlam vs Crona likely wouldn't go much differently, and giving Brock the powers of Captain Universe is overkill.

[@HotFootBunny]

​@@zacharybosley1935bedlam vs Corona would go way differently, Bedlam isn't weak to sound and can fight people like Dr. Doom head on. It would be a one sided stomp

[@shacharlem4424]

Crona's real most powerful weapons are really it's poems. Have you ever seen how depressing they are?

[@LeElister64]

They even managed to depress BlackStar so they're probably the most OP weapon in their world.

[@6gee]

Yes I read it

[@hectorcott3204]

Yo Crona has they/them pronouns

[@vampbombergary8689]

@@hectorcott3204 i still sag crona is a femal

[@hectorcott3204]

@@vampbombergary8689 well theyre not, but if u see them that way then fine ig. Whatever gets u goin

[@cringeboy2116]

Sound: *Exists* Venom: Ah SH*t Here We Go Again

[@WakerOfTheCryingRain]

Stolen comment from me

[@HateFuckingMinors]

@huttio srreu Oh

[@sonofhades57]

I appreciate the sheer number of parallels between the two fighters that weren't obvious at first glance, but I hate the obvious squash match. The research was the real highlight here, not the "fight."

[@jerrythediarrheaseel3199]

11:43 oof that didn't age well 🥶🥶

[@theangrysocialist6884]

Bruh

[@dylancollins227]

Are we not talking about how Venom quoted "This is Halloween" from "The Nightmare Before Christmas?"

[@keankolodziejski1605]

link plz?

[@Bayleaf6399]

Omg yes

[@dylancollins227]

@@keankolodziejski1605 15:25

[@soulkarver956]

I noticed that. It was my favorite part.

[@knightofarkronia8652]

And if you listen carefully, you can actually hear the tune at that point!

[@marcusyates3044]

Venom: "We are the Darkness. We are your Nightmares! We are Venom!" Crona: "I HATE YOU."

[@mrreyes5004]

Crona: _ok._

[@mrreyes5004]

@@veryhot2382 Knock it off, you pointless spammer.

[@Helm-0]

Venom: "Wow, okay dude nevermind. Kids these days i swear, so rude."

[@fishyboi98]

>Crona is over 4x faster than Venom and is stronger. 90% of the comments "lmao venom lost cause of sound"

[@Gwenlover8815]

Fr you actually are better than most of the mad venom fans

[@andrewstill9042]

If only I have seen Crona did some of those feats in the anime than just the manga. He also sacrificed himself to save Maka from Medusa's arrow.

[@SydneySutterKolinkBattler]

[Alternate Ending] Crona: Hello? I wanna be alone. Venom: Oh, jeez, we didn't realize how late it was. Our bad, kid. Just wrappin' up here.

[@thelatterdayarbiter]

As he leaves, Eddie Brock overheard a strange prayer saying “Please kill Soul so I can have Maka all to myself!” To which Venom retorts to Eddie “didn’t you say something similar but you wanted Peter Parker dead?” Eddie sighs. “Definitely something wrong with that kid”

[@nehas9417]

I would love for DB to have silly alt endings like HISHE does

[@angeryfluuf6514]

@@thelatterdayarbiter Now that I think about it, Venom and Crona might be able to relate to each other on some level.

[@doctorwho3708]

God that be a funny way to troll people.

[@xxliving_tribunalxx1908]

@@nehas9417 They did that with Shao Kahn vs M Bison.

[@Meteo_sauce]

Its literally just Charmander vs Squirtle. One hard counters the other.

[@QJD1381]

This is even worse than that. This is Charizard vs Bulbasaur, lol.

[@larrychilders6599]

More like Charmander vs Geodude

[@ICTON123]

Sorry that most battles arent so super close that theyre almost even in every category, but thats just how match ups work, cause almost 80% of any match up will go that way, inevitably one character will always have greater feats than the other, or will have hard counters against the other They don't immediately know who's going to win before they research, at first glance it's easy to assume Venom would win Even with the screech, you could still make the argument that Venom developed a tolerance for that kind of thing Plus, This was actually a popular match up for crona and they knew absolutely nothing about SoulEater before this

[@inferno4469]

Marius L. Manarang but this was way too one sided

[@ponocni1]

@@ICTON123 Yk, Even with quite surface level of knowladge about her it would be quite obvious she would hard counter him.

[@davidhesson5036]

You guys should do a giant tournament using the winners of all your previse battels to find the strongest fictional character.

[@manhomarcusfan5268]

"Venom needs to stop picking fights with Anime Characters" Me: "You're the ones who put him there"

[@zombieguy4444]

Death Battle Losers Club: Venom shows up Carnage: What happened? Venom: Pink haired anime kid Carnage: I feel you father-cellmate of mine Ace: Preach, brothers Bane: YOU DESERVED IT

[@connorhollis5546]

Carnage lost to a pink haired anime girl too.

[@connorhollis5546]

@Dame Dolla Clutch Range no it was Lucy(Elfin Lied)

[@connorhollis5546]

@Dame Dolla Clutch Range but ramona fought amy rose from sonic. Season 3 btw

[@suslol5497]

@Dame Dolla Clutch Range um.. gonna have to disagree with you there...

[@suslol5497]

@Dame Dolla Clutch Range it’s actually a video game, they only wanted to adapt it to an anime with a different story

[@MisanthropyTEC]

Me: a person who’s seen soul eater and watches marvel “Oh cool spikey shape shifting anti hero bois...oh wait ragnarok can scream, forgot about that.”

[@HoradeFidges]

Same. For some reason I completely forgot about the scream thing until midway through the video and was like "Well, he/she is faster, has more power outburst and a direct counter, gg"

[@mr.intruder1536]

"Hey let's make venom fight a *speaker* who can move faster than him"

[@Xazyv]

I understand WHY they chose this pair with the whole black-monster-possession thing but yeah no this match up was TERRIBLE

[@astridstarr2787]

Tbh I just forgot the Manga for soul eater existed. If it were locked to the anime I legitimately think venom would have won cuz as far as the anime goes chronas kinda weak.

[@Xazyv]

@@astridstarr2787 if it were locked to the anime I agree. Venom would be thrown off by the shriek attacks but overall Venom is just a whole different level to Anime Chrona. They get massive power upgrades through the Manga series though.

[@gamergod6061]

This badly aged now, since Venom has reached higher power like god like power

[@MovableMosquito]

A really cool twist ending could have been if she had transformed into venom at the end cuz he dropped a bit of him self early on in the fight and had some how crawled onto her when she was focusing on the fight a little like how carnage was formed from a drop of venom

[@DarthMakron]

I'm a bit late but... Crona's final move was making Ragnarok eat both souls... Pretty sure it's imposible to regenerate from soul manipulation abilities. By the way, that implied that Venom had a soul. If every drop of venom could live on its own, I guess venom should either have no soul or thousands of souls. Kinda weird, but I guess they chose the easy solution.

[@jandalenito6968]

Venom = "You'r blood ..." Crona = "I know, it's black." That gave me shivers lol

[@csndbdbdhdb]

@Nero Metal She?

[@UltraAnimaniac101]

@@csndbdbdhdb Crona's gender is ambiguous. He/she/they, the pronounce don't matter

[@tommysilveria5108]

Ha, fools, I have blue blood, get on my level

[@Cadaverous0711]

@@UltraAnimaniac101 Crona is female but identifies as male because of Ragnarok.

[@chrisbyrd8317]

@@Cadaverous0711 in the manga they go be gender netrual terms

[@mclekfkeiwdisidido6858]

Venom: WE ARE VENOM Crona: *i aM DEpReSsIon*

[@dungeonguy88]

Seriously, I don't think Venom wanted to get in Crona's head, even if he could.

[@FLSNevermore]

@@dungeonguy88 Have you been in Wade's head? I think not, because if you had, you'd have known its just about as equally disturbing.

[@dungeonguy88]

@@FLSNevermore Here's the thing though, the Symbiote was deeply repulsed by the experience with Wade Wilson. It wouldn't be anymore on-board with Crona, I don't think.

[@FLSNevermore]

I'm not saying they would, it's just I think Wade and Crona are on equal standing if not Crona more.

[@pawncube6787]

Why do y'all put the symbiotes in some of the most mismatched fights? Venom vs. Bane Crona vs. Venom Lucy vs. Carnage

[@smiley.dmcallistor1987]

So, Crona beat Venom, cool... now make Crona fight Knull

[@ContagiousSponge]

Come on man, we want to see her fight someone. Not being tortured.

[@Legalized-nuclear-bombs]

Knull stomps harder than Venom

[@captaingeoffreyarcherbekke6172]

"Crona once engulfed the moon in sound waves." Yeah, who did you expect to win

[@OwO377]

Lmaoo

[@3ormore778]

All it takes is just one advantage to take the whole show doesn't it ?

[@j.m9047]

I think Ghost Rider vs Crona would've been a closer match. Like venom, ghost rider shares two minds, Zarathos and Johnny Blaze. And both Crona and Ghost Rider are demon-orientated.

[@3ormore778]

@@j.m9047 that would be better

[@j.m9047]

@Nealen the Nerd I mean in all fairness what can Venom do to hurt Crona?

[@hvcky]

“Red Vs Blue, who would really win?” Me: Tex

[@nicholasyost8400]

Go Grif! Or his sister, I really don't care as I liked pretty much the entire cast!

[@silverden7598]

caboose since hes technically stronger.

[@rev0568]

If freelancers are involved, Blue stomps. If they aren't, I still say Blue edges out a win.

[@DuNdAlALa]

Agreed, Tex

[@gggiiillllllyyy]

Flowers/Florida? Alpha? Epsilon? Jr.? Tex? Sorry but blue team roster was bigger if every member was allowed..

[@mtheg671]

I got a “Venom Let There Be Carnage” ad on this video

[@thewatchers9394]

If only they had a rematch, for Venom is now on the level of the Beyonders. What a one sided fight it would have been. What a waste

[@rodney2x48]

Me: Yeah, I don't think Crona's gonna win. From the anime, it doesn't seem like they were that big of a deal. Death Battle: So anyways, in the manga... Me: OH RIGHT. THE MANGA. Welp, gg Venom! You had a good run!

[@DOOMSLAYER66641]

They didn't take his new run

[@invoker6219]

Mr. Robot I havent seen you since Google+ was shut down

[@haimoo7757]

Yep the manga bois

[@pantherman691]

Well before the battle i knew venom would probably die

[@Trails3rdFanboy]

meat gardener venom is universal at minimum so Crona gets completely fucked, but DB conveniently left it out so eh

[@eianstraight9698]

Someone who “ENGULFED THE MOON IN SOUND WAVES” vs Someone who shits the bed at the sound of church bells

[@razorsfury6519]

to be fair, literally standing feet from a ringing church bell and "the sounds of church bells" are not the same thing.

[@percivalknightoftheflames855]

@@razorsfury6519 exactly!

[@SheepSlayer]

@@razorsfury6519 Accuracy definitely makes the joke better >_>

[@fireskull7721]

venom is much more powerful then thay

[@eianstraight9698]

@@razorsfury6519 the point is, man with sound ability’s vs man with weakness to sound

[@ParadoxumParadisus]

All reasons explained that says Crona's advantages: 1. Venom is tricky, however Venom lacks the ability to keep up a prolonged fight. Crona had to be on guard during the fight in order to know when to switch Mad Blood usage to Defensive (hardening Mad Blood into body armor) and when to switch to Offense (Ragnarok's Sword Forms and Scream Resonance) 2. Crona is much faster (Mach 9,000) than Venom (Venom's fastest Speed record is around Mach 2,000) 3. Venom has shown to have extremely high physical strength, however would not be able to handle Crona's recorded amount of Mad Blood (9,689,078,800,000 Tons of Mad Blood). This amount nullifies Venom's mind control power from being able to take control of Crona's body specifically. 4. Crona (although he may not look like it) has shown to also have extremely high amounts of strength (Crona has literally managed to open the moon's jaw all by himself which means Crona used approximately 10,485.81 Tons of strength to do so) 5. It is explained during Venom's summary explanation before the fight that 2 of the major weaknesses Symbiotes have are extremely high sounds and high temperatures. Half of Crona's arsenal are sound based. This means that Crona can exploit Venom's sound weakness easily. Venom does have some kind of resistance to sound based attacks, however its not that sofisticated to survive Crona. Crona can not one shot Venom with Scream Resonance, but Crona can still kill Venom with a few Sound Attacks as Venom is not completely immune. The amount of dB to break glass with sound is about 100 dB. Crona's combined Sound Attacks and Venom's resistance means Crona would have to reach up to around 244.13 dB of sound waves to kill Venom. Crona's highest known record of Sound Waves is around 275.55 dB if you count the size and shape of the moon (Soul Eater moon). However Crona has actually once shown to have reached over a 1,000x faster than how much he used on Venom Conclusion: *Crona is much faster than Venom *Crona is immune to some of Venom's arsenal while resistant to the rest of his Arsenal *Crona is immune to Venom's mind control and half of Crona's arsenal is Sound based (one of the 2 major weaknesses of Symbiotes) *Crona is able to know when to harden his Mad Blood into body armor by observing Venom's attack sequence (Its unknown if Crona himself is observing or if Ragnarok is helping Crona with observation) *Crona has comparison towards Strength and Speed are much more sophisticated than Venom *Crona can last much longer in battles than Venom can indicating Crona's Stamina is higher than Venom's Stamina limitation

[@jerrysanchez4040]

the fight was before the carnage comic

[@ParadoxumParadisus]

@jerrysanchez4040 this was the information mentioned from both analysis' and the after-battle explanation

[@Crumble_n_use]

So, uh... Which way do the doors of this cathedral open? Because it doesn't matter now, they just went through the roof.

[@365ral]

Venom reciting lyrics from “This is Halloween” = pure genius!

[@Mic_25]

Lol yo I was wondering where that quote was from

[@365ral]

@Malum And a certified 'ween classic

[@lucariboi1960]

Which one again?

[@Midnatheimp]

Here is your winner CRONA

[@dovahknight9525]

The moment I heard him recite the lyrics I flipped out

[@wanted6082]

Venom: *dies by Crona* Carnage: First time dying to an anime character?

[@donovanroundtree524]

well it's debatable whether crona is a girl or not

[@zamaskowany12]

Isn't Crona a boy?

[@Ghostguy693]

"Girl" is technically questionable in this case.

[@gunnerbooth3065]

TheCrimsonFuckr Crona is a boy in the anime but a girl in the manga

[@Crumble_n_use]

@@zamaskowany12 Honestly, I've given up trying to figure it out

[@killbill2610]

thanks for Promoting Soul Eater. My absolute favorite Manga since childhood. Way too underrated

[@deckeyex]

@ 11:40 that comparison didn't age well

[@TheClone3000]

I was about to say that

[@maximumoverdrive5477]

The delivery of Crona's line "I know... it's black" gives me chills

[@Gardfel]

It’s been WAY more superior in sub tbh

[@youngpacmannn5283]

Better in the show

[@lapaladejuan2833]

Okay. Not gonna lie. Venom's lines were both freaking awesome and terrorific

[@BigPig83005]

The voice actor was a little iffy, but the lines where definitely great!

[@brycwall3622]

@@BigPig83005 I liked the voice actor but the delivery is a little odd

[@JorenMyers]

I thought the best one was "We are the ones hiding under your bed..." but I'm pretty sure thats a line from The Nightmare Before Christmas

[@BigPig83005]

Blake Myers I was wondering where I’d heard that line before.

[@HorriblePodcast]

Interesting fact: terrific's original definition is to cause terror or fear.

[@sdcard7129]

Always remember : Death Battle chooses characters on similarity and NOT on actual power similarity.

[@zacharymabb4873]

Damn...now Lucy and Crona need to fight.

[@captreaps7760]

Pitting a sound weak enemy against an enemy who uses sound based attacks primarily. Yeah Crona has this one in the bag. Vemon may have built up a tolerance to sound base attacks but the level that Crona uses means he is doomed. This was way to one sided.

[@ahdksah5939]

May as well have been putting him against sirenhead...

[@hihibye2324]

Even than I'm pretty sure Crona can only be killed by someone using Black Blood. Venom was screwed before the fight started.

[@zerotheassassin4046]

@@hihibye2324 Corona can be killed by normal means his mother almost killed him in the anime and manga as well don't know if the black blood was surporesed in the manga but it was in the anime

[@hihibye2324]

@@zerotheassassin4046 I mean Medusa pretty much made black Blood for shits a Giggles makes scenes she could. But I'm pretty sure Maka could even make a dent in Crona until she started using the black blood herself. It's been a while since I read Soul eater could be crossing wires i just remembered Crona could get hacked and stabbed to hell but it didnt do anything till Maka used the Blood.

[@zerotheassassin4046]

@@hihibye2324 ig she did and I was speaking off based on the anime I need to re read the manga but I do know for certain Stein stopped the resonance between Crona and Ragnarok to where they were unbalanced sorta and he was able to damage them other than that no one else was able to do any damage neither was Maka and even when she was using the black blood at best in the anime all she did was toss him around maybe cut him a few times then he started going through soul rejection again(spike black blood popping out of his body constantly)

[@DBZSeanzie]

Seems like a fair battle. Put venom against a character who’s main attacks are sonic sounds

[@BeyondDaX]

Tell that to the venom fans pfft

[@quirkyquin4528]

I mean.. a lot of people wanted it. It's not death battles fault the fans didnt look to deeply into it.

[@ssgssevegeta1445]

Lmao

[@calvinwarlick8533]

To he fair, the showed his resistance to sonic attacks is greater than a human can withstand. About 180d is dangerous, Venon took way more than that and survived. Crona's Screech Resonance is dangerous to anyone.

[@jjthecreat0r]

ikr

[@itsyaboidaniel2919]

Strange. If Venom scales to Spider-Man 2099, who supposedly moved at around Mach 2,000, and Carnage scales to Venom, I don't see how Carnage could have lost to Lucy, who's attacks were never anywhere near that fast. And if we're using scaling, Knull beating the Sentry, who was then beaten by Venom, should give Venom an instant win here. I can imagine lots of these inconsistencies will show up in later Death Battles.

[@ICTON123]

Venom didn’t beat Knull lol. He firsthad to get revived by the Enigma Force(basically, Knull’s arch enemy and equal) and get possessed by it to become a God of Light, get Mjolnir and SilverSurfer’s board, then merge them into a battleaxe, then use it and the Enigma Force to completely destroy all trace of him. He completely loses access to this power afterwards. He basically got the most temporary of amps in the history of temporary amps. Giving him this is the equivalent of giving Captain America, Ironman, Reech Richards, and Black Panther the full infinity gauntlet, or Batman all the lantern rings(which they clearly shouldn’t have… at all). Not to mention, the defeat of Knull came WAY after this video’s release. As for Carnage vs Lucy, teeeeechnically the feat leans a bit more to reactionary speed than travel, but that’s pretty small. And teeeechnically you get MUCH higher speeds than the speed they calced for Lucy there(much closer, and possibly faster than the mach 2000 feat here), but you can still technically scale him to Spiderman, so they still match up. But regardless, there’s still a f__ck ton of them there, they’re massive, and an AOE nuke attack’ll likely do em in regardless of speed. But that’s just imo

[@itsyaboidaniel2919]

@@ICTON123 That context is good to know.I also forgot to consider the age of the video, which is why that couldn't have been used as a factor. Those feats do seem to be reactionary, rather than travel speed, which is an important distinction, although I think it's arguable in both cases for Venom and Crona that they were never reacting to things that fast. Spider-Man 2099 probably only aimed his hand in the right place, rather than it being relative. Similar case for Crona going up against that fast guy who clearly wasn't going that fast in any of their fights. I think the main problem either way is Venom being weak to sound, yet somehow faster than sound, meaning he should be able to just avoid the sound all together. It's a strange weakness that shouldn't apply, and from the scaling in the video, might as well not apply. Another thing I just thought up of is Crona's sonic attacks spreading all around the Soul Eater moon somehow being 275 decibels, which doesn't make sense, since the Tsar Bomba, which was 224 decibels, made a shockwave that went around the Earth 3 times from what I recall. So I don't know how they're calculating that, or what they mean by Crona's sound wave spreading. Overall, I think it's just high tier scaling that's unreliable, and inaccurate to how powerful the characters actually are. I can accept Crona winning, but these numbers all seem ridiculous, and out of context.

[@ICTON123]

@@itsyaboidaniel2919 Not really, cause it wouldn't make sense for them to not use this level of speed in their fights(where they were seriously trying to take down/kill their opponent). Otherwise, for BlackStar, Crona would just never be able to hit him cause he'd run circles around him and evade every attack, against an opponent of such unbelievable speeds, similar levels of speed are still *actively* required(basically, you wouldn't get hit by a bullet if it were moving at a snail's pace right? Even if you were blindsided, it's so slow that you'd be easily able to move out of the way regardless). And similarly, Crona wouldn't be able to block BlackStar's attacks for the same reasons. Additionally, BlackStar did the mach 9000 and dodging lightspeed lasers feats(note that BlackStar did not just dodge the lasers, but caught 2 of them mid-fire and threw them back with his bare hands... somehow) Pre-End of series before becoming even stronger. The former feat was without stuff like SoulResonance, the latter feat was even done in his base without using his Uncanny Sword form, which _drastically_ improves his strength and speed, to which Crona fights him at his best with both(before he becomes Kishin Crona iirc). So Crona *absolutely* scales to BlackStar's best. It's comics, that's to be expected, and it sorta supports the notion that it's more on reactionary speed if anything. Even then, Crona's madness wavelength and shrieks from Ragnarok are not normal sounds. They're made from "soul powers" and stuff, can affect souls, can cover the whole moon in moments, and regularly tags beings who are much faster than sound(even if the characters are able to dodge sunlight, like Justin Law). And as shown in the animation, nothing stops Crona from just creating a massive AOE attack of sound in all directions, as well as just holding him in place with MadBlood to then pump him full of sound waves(17:00). It also means that Venom wouldn't be able to get in close to Crona. So they still very much apply here. It's not *just* about far they traveled (vibrations always travel vast distances even if they're weak), what mattered here is that they could be _so_ strong at such a distance. Being able to be at their full destructive volume while traversing such a vast distance is ludicrous(cause that's kinda how force works, it gets weaker the farther they are from the point of origin), so the full force at the epicenter should be incredibly potent by comparison. Exactly like for Venom's sound feat. The gremlins making sounds felt across 10 miles wasn't the impressive part, it was that even after traversing 10 miles, they were still strong enough to shatter glass!

[@itsyaboidaniel2919]

@@ICTON123 If they wanted the most ridiculous levels of speed they could go for, then they'd easily be able to get it. But these characters not doing so regularly implies that's not how fast they'd actually be going, especially for Venom if his weakness is sound, then being faster than sound, making sound easily avoidable. I haven't watched SoulEater, but I'll believe you immediately on the catching lasers thing. The problem then comes in with these characters ever being touched by anything slower once we use scaling after that point. The two main options are that either these characters are simply entirely unreliable in how strong they are, or the lasers themselves aren't light speed, with the writers not knowing how fast light actually is. With the mach 9000 feat, we see that line being drawn on that tracking device of some sort, but then we see the visuals, which are clearly much less impressive. The problem then becomes that if you can't trust visuals, we don't even know how fast those characters are in the first place. I don't doubt at all that Crona's sound attacks could harm, and even kill Venom. I just think that if these characters were of the speeds mentioned in the video, that would negate ever using sound against them. Given that the SoulEater moon is pretty small, and I don't know if it has an atmosphere or not, it seems likely that any sound waves would be easily able to spread across it because it is simply the nearest object. Also, it seems like the feat itself would be covering it in sound waves, but not actually destroying it, so that massively reduces the impressiveness of the feat itself.

[@ICTON123]

@@itsyaboidaniel2919 Literally, nothing implies that these characters *don't* do this level of speed regularly lol. Especially in a fight, where, again, they're trying to seriously take down and kill their opponent. It wouldn't make sense. Not to mention, they're both Comic and Manga characters, so all of their movements are via still pictures, so they very much could have just been going at such speeds the whole time. It also ignores the concepts of "cinematic timing" and "attack potency" That misses the point of the show, which is to analyze characters at their personal best to see who would win a fight. Taking them at their weakest just doesn't make sense when the point is that we wanna see who wins. Also, most fictional series' have stuff like that(inconsistencies, plot-induced stupidity, low ends, etc.). Cause a writer obviously isn't concerned with making a character consistent for a Vs-Debate, they just want to write a story with amazing showings sometimes cause those are fun. Low-ends don't mean that the character's high-ends don't exist, and that's just blatantly ignoring massive parts of the character's history for no reason, as well as ignoring the concept of *FICTION* itself. This isn't a narrative analysis or something, we just wanna have em fight for the sake of it. ...Wut? That doesn't make sense lol, the fact that the writers had to specify that they were light and lasers mean that they do know what light is, and they're obviously basing it off of our own world(cause... well, there isn't anything else they would go off of lol). It would be incredibly disingenuous to assume that it isn't light speed, when, similarly, *nothing suggests that they aren't light speed either.* If they call it light, then there's nothing else to fall back on for that. (for SoulEater in particular, they do establish beforehand that the lasers are actual light. As they had to actually counteract these beams using a character's ability of "light refraction" to prevent them from attacking the ship they were on. Pretty straightforward, if he knows that light can refract and reflect, then he should know that light is hella fast). Visuals don't mean anything mate, looks are just an art style or choice of effort. Regardless of how it looks, you cannot deny that he was very clearly shown moving at those speeds with visual measurements given. The only way he wasn't going at those speeds... is if it were just lying for some reason. If the intention wasn't that he wasn't going at these speeds, it just wouldn't happen to begin with. By that logic, Goku being able to match and surpass Vegeta's Galick Gun in Saiyan saga(which is stated, and proven to be able to destroy a planet), and Vegeta surviving it is bunk because it's just not visually impressive. It's very disingenuous to the feat to simply base it off of visuals alone. (Plus, the calc was based on a time frame given by the Anime anyway, we could just apply the Manga, where there isn't a time frame in the first place) Again, not really. Crona's madness wavelength isn't just normal sounds or something(that much should have been painfully obvious by what it does). Plus, at no point did they ever even say that Venom couldn't dodge it, in fact, they do the opposite in the animation, they just specifically have him being binded first so that he couldn't dodge. And even then, it still gave him a massive disadvantage. They literally state that they included the fact that it was very much smaller than our own moon. But it's still absolutely gigantic, and covering it with such intense soundwaves without weakening is still incredible. That... literally wouldn't do anything for the feat lol, it still means that it completely covered it in the wavelength. The feat was never about destroying the moon lol. It was the fact they were able to cover the whole moon in such intense sound waves that... well just look at the darn thing(18:49), they also had to specifically go back to earth and at a massive distance away to avoid it or else they'd go mad(it was also crushing people with weaker wavelengths, and rocketed people backward like a massive explosion)

[@brocmiller8570]

Still awesome even after 10 times watching it. I would like to see a Death Battle with Maka (along with Soul as a Deathscythe) against someone? Which who should it be?

[@circularnectarine1439]

IIRC Ruby (RWBY) vs. Maka was confirmed at a convention

[@kiritoswords6479]

"We are the ones hiding under your bed. Teeth ground sharp, and eyes glowing red." I like the Nightmare before Christmas reference.

[@cellectra3342]

I'm the one hiding under your stairs, fingers like snakes and spiders in my hair

[@davcharley5001]

I like Carnage's version: It's raining , you're bleeding Carnage is starving! 😈

[@windwalker111089]

I thought it was cool beacuse a very popular AMV with soul eater was done with this song. I believe Marlyn Manson sang it. You should check it out.

[@kiritoswords6479]

@@windwalker111089 already saw it.

[@tmoran527]

@@windwalker111089 i know that amv won some awards as well

[@meleefox3218]

Ngl, I wasn't expecting Venom to quote lyrics from "This is Halloween". That was a nice touch.

[@sebastiangiovannella7778]

Same

[@RowdySanta]

Also neat since that song could be associated with Soul Eater thanks to the super famous "This is Halloween" amv by Hagaren Viper. So in my head, I saw it as Venom being cool and scary and then Crona reacts like.. ooo that's my song!

[@theredeft5319]

I assume it was a tribute to a very popular Soul eater amv to this is Halloween. It’s really a great video. Check it out if f you haven’t seen it.

[@Ragan31687]

I know right! I marked out for that one.

[@sebastiangiovannella7778]

The original song is from the movie “nightmare before Christmas”

[@Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md.]

Current Eddie stomps, should re-do this one.

[@Symmetry_Obsessed_Freak]

Y'all should really comsider doing more death battles with soul eater characters; this one was really good!

[@blueworld1825]

Crazy how god of light venom destroys this fodder verse.

[@BlackBloodCombatClub]

They totally should, though maybe they shouldn't have given Crona a fight that they had a clear advantage in. Maybe either A.B.A. or Zato-1 from Guilty Gear would've been interesting to see them face off against.

[@hypemynizzle]

Character: *Loses* The Toxic Parts Of A Fanbase: *I don't know how to deal with this!*

[@ohyeahyeahohyeahyeah4734]

Character loses: Fan base gives reasons on how they didn’t do nearly enough research and if they did the other character would win. People happy who won: your just a bunch of sore losers

[@FatPodMan]

@@ohyeahyeahohyeahyeah4734 that goes for both sides

[@eliasmagus5086]

Sometimes its justified

[@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901]

As soon as they mentioned that Crona has screaming powers, I immediately said "He's dead."

[@mattjohnson8585]

Same. I just want to know why Venom couldn't use Crona's uber-emo attitude to win, and why the sonic attack was 'the thing' instead.

[@animeworld5847]

@@mattjohnson8585 if you meant using his psychic attacks to amplify their depression then you didn't read soul eater (which is fine, most didn't). Anime Crona would lose to that so in that sense yes, that is why most of us expected them to lose (y'know, death battle's track record of ignoring feats and shiz). But they're using manga Crona's feats here, in the manga they are a Kishin (or rather ate one and fused with it), the living embodiment of madness (deadpools), they do constant mental attacks on a planetary scale just by existing (sorta like lovecraftian creatures, but less broken) that's the passive of every Kishin, while they cannot corrupt venom since he was worn by deadpool, there is literally nothing that could affect them any more mentally.

[@mattjohnson8585]

@@animeworld5847 Makes sense. As you noted I didn't read it, so I was just wondering why they seemed to pass it over. Thanks for the explanation!

[@animeworld5847]

@@mattjohnson8585 Glad I could be of help

[@leifster7762]

I held it back because of his developed resistance but then they showed decibel difference after and I remembered the last time they were on here.

[@snivypwnz]

I felt more of a chill running down my spine as the fight kept on going. A battle between nightmares.

[@golden_misfit]

I believe that Carnage woulda made a better match seeing that he’s immune to the screaming sword

[@pedrocampos691]

Spider-Man Shattered dimensions pc.