VERDICT: Brother & Sister Murder Trial | TN v. Karen & Michael Murray

The jury deliberated for a few hours before reaching a verdict for Karen and Michael Murray. The siblings were charged with murder and neglect in the death of their mother, Sheila Murray.
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#CourtTV - Did the jury get it right?

[@Lou-xq9br]

Not in my opinion

[@karimcconnell5231]

NOOOO NOT IN MY OPINION-THE JURY CAME BACK TO QUICK.

[@Joanmorris337]

Yes!!!

[@chilenitaprotrump]

NO AND THE PROSECUTION SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR NOT GOING AFTER THE COGNIZANT DAUGHTER WHO CLEARLY, CLEEEEEEARLY SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND TURNED HER BACK TO GO LIVE HER COGNIZANT LIFE WHILE HER FAMILY DIED. Mother passed, both siblings locked up= demise of an entire family. SHE COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS.

[@chilenitaprotrump]

@@Joanmorris337 You're blind, deaf, and dumb.

[@MsBenitaButrell]

Meanwhile… my grandmother died due to neglect at a nursing home and the state of Illinois found them not liable. The system is so messed up!

[@juneyshu6197]

True dat, our sister also.

[@jacklinemukiibi4388]

Smdh

[@missy8867]

This is exactly what I was thinking! When I worked at the nursing home in high school as part of a co-op program they had patience in the nursing home who had severe ulcers that couldn't be brought upon by any other reason than just pure neglect and nothing ever happened to that nursing home.

[@MsBenitaButrell]

@@juneyshu6197 I’m sorry to hear this… it happens way too often 😢

[@missK8671]

Nursing homes charge around $8000 a month & give little care . Yes . many people die in nursing homes and in the two cases my family relatives they all lost a lot of weight because the staff did not make sure they ate . One of my relatives had dementia, and he was not all there. my cousin's husband had a stroke and got worse at the nursing home he had to go to the hospital for dehydration because the nursing home staff were not helping eat & drink . then died after being there for two months. I won't let my loved ones end up in a nursing home.Sad.

[@storii4172]

The sister began talking about the brother's mental illness but the state wouldn't allow her to. Their attorney’s didnt fight hard enough to me.

[@daniellejaskula7669]

Exactly

[@Deethehiddengem]

Yeah I heard that. Why in the world wasn’t it allowed to be brought up?? It plays a role in someone’s abilities. I don’t think that son is going to fare well in a state prison

[@KramericaIndustries7]

Especially his, I felt. Maybe there were limitations because their cases were being tried together, but the son seems/seemed less involved then and less aware now. I don't think his attorney’s closing argument was five minutes long.

[@pamswz7411]

I agree

[@burglar42]

Its impossible to defend looooooong term NEGLECT!!!! It took months for this poor lady to die...sad for all involved!!!! It wasnt what they did to her, it was what they DIDNT do for her!

[@Catherine-u4k]

These adult children look like they have been troubled all their life. I am not sure if I agree with this verdict

[@understood...6300]

RIGHT...

[@naturalimmunity3776]

Exactly the Dad insisted they maintain care he is gone I'm sure he dictated all of this and these clearly troubled adults are being penalized this is sad AF.

[@wandawilson7666]

I agree. I think the jury got it wrong.

[@wandawilson7666]

I don't agree with the verdict

[@kyssbyrd543]

@@Catherine-u4k Exactly... I keep talking to my whole family about this trail ... No telling what the momma did to these kids frfr

[@living4christistheonlyway403]

They should be in a mental hospital. NOT PRISON😢🙏🏻🙏🏾❤️

[@georgeyanney4679]

They not mental, perhaps they not A+ students but they didn't have the knowledge or receive instruction and help and the tools to help from whatever resources went there. Surely the mother wouldn't want to have her children prosecuted because they loved their mom and tried to make her endlife a good one. Did they slap, shoot at, strangle their mom?

[@living4christistheonlyway403]

@@georgeyanney4679 Maybe not but definitely something going on at that age living with your parents and definitely can tell in my nursing for 20 years something is missing mentally. The twitching of the eyes. The movement in the body language and the son lack of emotion. Something is there. They needed help and if they needed help how could they help her. I think all these years she was there support but the lacked the mental knowledge to take care of her. And do you have to do all these things to be mental? Shooting slapping and spitting might mean you just Evil. 🤔

[@AmericanObserver-kq7ye]

THIS DOESN’T SEEM RIGHT! It seems that the father neglected his wife, and when he died the two siblings continued to neglect their mother. My degrees are in psychology, and from the way that the two siblings appear they appear to be undeveloped, and they might have mental disorders. Karen Murray doesn’t appear 49, and Michael Murray doesn’t appear 43. They should have had psychological evaluations and IQ tests, before being charged with first degree murder, because they do not appear cognitively able to take care of themselves. Hopefully, their lawyers will appeal the verdict, and get them evaluated.

[@traceywatson6228]

That’s reserved for only some…

[@ursulas6297]

Guilty. They neglected ..abused their Mother. Lock them up

[@petulawaller]

Why did the judge not allow their lack of mental health to be presented???? You can clearly see they are struggling cognitively. 😢

[@chrismorris1810]

There was a side bar where the State of Tennessee successfully got the documentation about all that suppressed. Can't prove you're mentally unfit to stand trial if your evidence is suppressed, after all.

[@beverlygriffin3757]

@@petulawaller Because it’s seems more White folks get to use mental illness as their defense. Either children should not have been charged with murder. Injustice! In a known racist state.

[@Vivian9397]

What is the cognitive ability of these defendants? They look like they have limitations and don't seem fit to stand trial.

[@ncmay1112]

I agree. The sister that testified should’ve been charged with something as she is the only one that seemed to have the sense to know her mother wasn’t being cared for properly.

[@Paloma1977]

This is Crazy! These two specially the male not capable to stand trial! What’s wrong with this judge? Should be disbarred for being ignorant

[@mrsshelton226]

I totally agree

[@Lou-xq9br]

Absolutely agree

[@vikirebornshow8483]

@@ncmay1112exactly

[@BuffyLynn]

They did what their father insisted and had no clue how to care for her

[@MsBenitaButrell]

I agree! This is beyond sad all the way around😢

[@lady2550]

They knew how to wash their own butt and feed themselves. They k ew right from wrong.

[@camillaSweden]

Agree 100%

[@kimdavis3259]

I agree!! This is so sad….😢 And the other sister who also clearly knew and saw that the mother needed help and she did nothing!! It’s crazy she wasn’t charged with neglect.

[@JennieC21]

But they left her rotting in her own faeces and urine. She had yeast growing up her neck and who else knows where! Wouldn’t even want to imagine One of her breasts was decaying under her arm/back!! And her foot/bottom of leg had literally died to the point of bones sticking out!!! There wasn’t even blood as there was none getting to that part of the body because it was dead! And that’s without any bed sores she had! ZERO excuses!!! Just imagine the pain this woman was in, I can’t even begin to 😢

[@badashh420]

Our justice system is a joke. They shouldnt have been caring for her.

[@donnapavina8803]

It’s gross that they were convicted of murder. As if. MAYBE they could have been charged with manslaughter but murder is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@lynnemurillo2795]

Their father was the primary caregiver. He died 6 mos after his wife. I find the verdict troubling.....

[@bishnumiller6187]

This is injustice to these two. They didn't commit murder. Nobody stepped in to help them. What a fast trial and conviction and guilty. Hope they get an appeal soon. They look incapable of taking care for themselves. It's sad their parents passed and they haven't had any time to grieve them. This is pitiful.

[@caterinascarcella]

@@bishnumiller6187they did let their mother die . They needed to call an ambulance and get her to a hospital. They didn’t seek help and that’s murder.

[@riseagain9677]

Guilty for being black is what happened

[@chugzie9415]

The sister said the house was so filthy she stayed in a hotel. Why did she call Protective Services to get get Mom out of there is my question to her, regardless to what her dad said. 🤔

[@sjmdat]

@@chugzie9415 We don’t do that!!

[@frankelijah1]

I don’t care if my father, or siblings Never Ever spoke to me again, I would’ve called the police, DYFS and/or Elder Abuse hotline!

[@beverlygriffin3757]

If I loved my mother, I would have personally hired someone. The 2 are merely children. I have seen full gown folks who immediately put parents in a home to avoid taking care of them. It’s a tragic about their mother. I’m praying this Judge show compassion toward them. God bless them. Incarceration is not what they need. But, they are 2 Black children in the state of Tennessee.

[@pattycook6896]

@chugzie9415 I agree. My mom died in my home. Shevwas with my sister first. We lived hours from one another..but while mom was with my sis I checked in by phone each day. She did the same when mom was here. Thebolder suster..after Dada died and not an issue..could have removed her. The dad could have gotten services from Hospice or home health. After he passed the mom would have outside monitoring. I'm so sad for the mom, but I am terribly sorry for the kuds. If sis saw the living arrangement filthy even while dad still came and went to work..time to do something. We will never know how it was.

[@KeyaLaney]

@@beverlygriffin3757 these people didn't have the means to hire someone to take care of their mother. You don't know how it is to be poor. These two never should've been taken care of her, but when you don't have money you don't have a choice. When you dad say no then that means "NO"!! The correct thing to do was to still call someone no matter what the dad said. The home health aides and other people knew that the home smelled like piss but they didn't report it. How many people have went over someone's grandmother's house and it smelled bad. Most just turn a blind eye to it and carry on with their lives. Why didn't the other sister know what was going on. When you mom smell like piss why not pull the covers back and wash her up and change her, but even she didn't care to look. She went down with her kids and went site seeing.

[@kathyedleman633]

How is this first degree murder? This is wrong on so many levels.

[@misslisa3619]

I believe it was classified as First Degree because of the severity of Sheila Murray's injuries & neglect. She suffered greatly & for some time before 911 was finally called in Aug. 2019.

[@mynameiseve.1]

I mean even now the brother still looks filthy. I am also troubled by all of this. Both siblings seem to have some kind of mental issue also. I hope they initiate some form of appeal. Of course what the mom endured was horrific, but there is something not right here!

[@asanu9904]

This is so wrong, we all see it. Their “lawyers” did them so wrong.

[@lisaturner9585]

Your right this has me so pissed off how are these 2 guilty

[@ReneeR877]

They don't need to be in prison, these 2 are obviously on the spectrum.

[@Lou-xq9br]

Very sad all round

[@mrsshelton226]

I agree

[@MsBenitaButrell]

Agree 💯

[@Catchmyvib2]

It’s an act because if that was the case, then whoever put them in charge would be responsible and negligent and their judgment

[@Lou-xq9br]

@@Catchmyvib2 it's clearly NOT an act and exactly our point! It's clear as day and they shouldn't have left responsible nor convicted of murder

[@Iama1asupernova]

Defense did a POOOOOOR PISSSSS JOB!!!!!

[@STT708]

Did they even put on a defense??

[@georgeyanney4679]

@@STT708 Poor defense. Would mother want her children prosecuted for them trying to best of their ability to care for their mother? I took care of my grandmother and asked and got urinary catheter so only had to make sure patent (flowing) and empty q 8 hrs. They weren't aware of that option and whoever visited didn't give guidance. As LPN had skills change bedding rolling sheets..was the mattress plastic or have a plastic cover under the sheet? i don't think they aware bed pads or shown...But working in nursing home anytime sent someone to hospital they always came back pressure sores. Those poor children, they weren't A+ students but gave their best. I don't know how often outside help comes in Tennessee. I had nurse once a week and nurse assistant I think was 3 times a week. Don't know how prosecutor can sleep, that them kids is murderers...strangulation? knife? gunshot? punch?

[@shannonwilkins3048]

Public defenders work for the state they don't have the defendants best interest 🅿️

[@bornrebel007]

@@shannonwilkins3048 Yes alot of people don't know this or overlook it I'm glad you pointed that out ma'am.

[@JerzeeePeach]

Exactly​@@shannonwilkins3048

[@Luckimee]

This is horrible. They're clearly incapable of caring for anyone else let alone themselves. Disgusting

[@3kidT]

What makes it clear?

[@Katiegirlluv]

Our system is so broken. Prisons full of ppl who slipped thru

[@BobSmith-ll9ol]

They deserve jail

[@AmericanObserver-kq7ye]

THIS DOESN’T SEEM RIGHT! It seems that the father neglected his wife, and when he died the two siblings continued to neglect their mother. My degrees are in psychology, and from the way that the two siblings appear they appear to be undeveloped, and they might have mental disorders. Karen Murray doesn’t appear 49, and Michael Murray doesn’t appear 43. They should have had psychological evaluations and IQ tests, before being charged with first degree murder, because they do not appear cognitively able to take care of themselves. Hopefully, their lawyers will appeal the verdict, and get them evaluated.

[@meee0w134]

agreed. very sad all around

[@calvinhyde3525]

The jurors should be ashamed of themselves the two lawyers they had did nothing for them.

[@AmericanObserver-kq7ye]

It seems that the father neglected his wife, and when he died the two siblings continued to neglect their mother. My degrees are in psychology, and from the way that the two siblings appear they appear to be undeveloped, and they might have mental disorders. Karen Murray doesn’t appear 49, and Michael Murray doesn’t appear 43. They should have had psychological evaluations and IQ tests, before being charged with first degree murder, because they do not appear cognitively able to take care of themselves. Hopefully, their lawyers will appeal the verdict, and get them evaluated.

[@dbajanredhead]

@@AmericanObserver-kq7yeI agree

[@8MyOpinionIs8]

@@AmericanObserver-kq7ye the mother died first, the father died several months after his wife.

[@mymillionaireclub7591]

They did there’re mother wrong did you hear she cancel appointments for the mother they had sense just didn’t care about nothing they need help but still jail…..

[@JeanneGuarnieri-vs7zn]

I rarely disagree with the Jury. Ever. In this case I have serious doubts.

[@LoreeG82]

Did they have psychiatric assessments done ? They definitely don't seem to know what's going on

[@RG-qo2hu]

💯

[@NurseKristin]

Yes and they were not deemed to have any cognitive/mental impairments with the exception of Michael’s bipolar. CourtTV did not show the entire trial

[@whinnie7529]

​@@NurseKristinexcept bipolar

[@shellos8]

Sometimes a guilty verdict just leaves me feeling very uneasy and a little bit sick to my stomach. This is one of them. Not sure "justice" was achieved here,

[@melistasy]

💯! I hope someone helps them appeal this injustice.

[@nicolealvarez131]

Why ?

[@song8777]

Same here.

[@addiestrozier147]

me Easther something not right middle sister didn't seem upset.

[@rebeccam.s.1565]

I agree fully.

[@mrspurple5766]

This is so wrong Michael Murray looks like a vulnerable adult

[@lindalavallee5144]

100% agree he has learning disabilities if I heard right - they were in over their head. I think Karen should have called 911 far before she did. Very sad, they are going to be targets in jail

[@mrspurple5766]

@@lindalavallee5144 totally agree they both look far younger than they actually are and seem to be totally unaware of what’s going on

[@CoffeeCrazy]

Did you see the before picks ? Clearly they are having trouble adjusting to prison but they are not incompetent as many want to believe. I do think the father was the ring leader and they went along with him. Many people would rather overlook the issues caused by family then call authorities on them. I believe this to be the case. When the other sibling testified, it gave clearer understanding to the family dynamics. I believe she was culpable as well but I don’t think they could prove it as she lived 2 hours away and claimed not to see injuries or neglect due to mom being covered.

[@enpasant12]

@@CoffeeCrazyI agree with you and I also think the other daughter also should be implicated if those 2 are convicted. The smell of a necrotic tissue can be detected even though she was covered

[@mrspurple5766]

@@CoffeeCrazy neither of them took the stand and gave evidence, was an extremely quick trial. Yes the sister that did take the stand should also have been tried. I got the impression the dad who is deceased was an authoritarian and they abided by his rules. The poor mother should have had better care more than they could give her.

[@sweeteypie590]

What bothers me is. The sister said she tried to help when her dad was alive. He wouldn't let her. What gets me when the dad died. She had an opportunity to step up and help. But did nothing to help her brother and sister. I don't care. It is more to this story and case. 🙏🏽

[@yolandacottrell5517]

The father died AFTER the mother. What else could she have done, except maybe provide them a better place to live. They would have been brought up on charges regardless. The brother's defense lawyer stated in his closing argument that if the father was living, he would have been sitting right next to his children facing the same charges as they were. He was definitely liable for this travesty.

[@quianascott7697]

@sweeteypie590 I totally agree. The sister that came to visit that never looked at her mom fully seems a little off ... I took care of my dad until he passed and the nurses that came over did not play about his living arrangements and had both legs amputated.. That was neglect, no they should have been taking care of her but no one reached out for help when they couldn't anymore. No excuses for neglect from anyone because they could have done something ...

[@MsRe313]

The Innocence Project needs to jump on this case ASAP!!!!!

[@ggcatbelladogantics2959]

This guy will not survive prison. He’s not well.

[@Chosen1510]

I agree sad

[@thatssodaisy3276]

He's been in prison now for 3 years I am so afraid of what they're doing to him in there: (((

[@hekeepsblessingme1312]

No,he will not nor will his sister survive. This is an awful situation. This IS NOT JUSTICE!

[@ChristineTonkery]

They don't belong in prison. They're not going to harm anyone, they need help. They had a lot of responsibilities, and stress

[@stefaniemoses3298]

Sad all round. The older sister got off Scot free!

[@laurajercha9587]

And now she doesn’t have to take care of her brother or sister

[@shynbryt11]

she did, and that is shameful

[@robinb.4699]

I agree! She should have been charged also!

[@mandyayuso9048]

​@VirgoGoddessXxo did you even watch the case? She lives in the same state

[@Sirchingsince]

​@@VirgoGoddessXxoShe's the middle child.

[@daletreadway8408]

Jury got this wrong! I'm an RN and these two clearly had no idea and no help caring for her. The father/husband is at fault for putting them in this situation. Sad for these two.

[@marilynh5487]

What about the NURSE PRACTITIONER 🤔 who could have called HOSPICE CARE in the home for free

[@bethcornelius7125]

This is ridiculous. They may be in their forties but cognitively they are not the same. Why has this happened. What kind of legal system allows this to happen? I hope there is an appeal process.

[@marilynh5487]

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[@Yurkidding]

The DA should be investigated for taking this to trial, and then holding the wrong people accountable. This is outrageous.. you cannot impose reasonable expectations upon mentally incompetent people , You can however and should hold the medical and health staff that was in contact with this family, responsible for not intervening and doing anything to assist this woman, when there was a chance to,. These kids didn’t just come out of nowhere. They are a product of what they themselves have been subjected to all their lives. I believe they gave to this woman, the same care and regard they gave to themselves, They are victims here , and the DA should be imprisoned themselves for doing this to these poor kids

[@altheasmith4617]

Just wanted to win a case and this was the best that DA could do and the Judge should have thrown it OUT! We all clearly can see the two children was unjustly convicted for someone they loved! The Sister should have stood up for her brother and sister as well. I don’t see how she can sleep at night to fight for them and tell the Jury how much they loved their Mother, but they never been in a position to help their Mother in her serious condition. This is the Doctor fault too, because I’m sure she seen him and the doctor didn’t want this on his record. This is extremely sad and wrong…Especially, for the system not to look into this and charge them for 1st Degree Murder. I’m appalled at everyone in that Court Room to let this happen.

[@daniellewilliams2768]

This code should be picked up by a team of attorneys and ProBono

[@daniellewilliams2768]

Case...

[@MeganRatliff-n1d]

This case should have had mental abilities as an issue also.I disagree strongly either this one!

[@DMiller912]

These two defendants had no business caring for anyone. This is insane!

[@karimcconnell5231]

I'm sorry but I don't like to label people but, you can tell there is something going on with this 2. I'm sure they did not intend to kill their Mom, I think they were following their Dads decisions. They did what they could with what they had. 🙏🙏🙏 for these 2.

[@Iama1asupernova]

Exactly!!!!!!

[@Kg-bw1dh]

Agree 100% 😢

[@devonstewart9376]

Yes, they just look a little out of it but still, ppl know what they're doing and why for the most part. We all got issues, were raised differently in different situations but most ppl don't go out of their way to harm others

[@COMEISHA_LOVE]

@@devonstewart9376 Different people have different issues and their issues could have rendered them incapable of taking care of their Mom.

[@lindamateri7298]

I guess they didn’t have access to soap and water, clean bedding and didn’t know what a clean pull up looked like,,, how disgusting of them when they could have called for help from the nurse rather than let their mother rot

[@chilenitaprotrump]

The cognizant daughter should have ALSO been charged! She was there sometimes, visited and claimed to have noticed NOTHING. Liar.

[@cassieej]

She was the sister who thought she was better because why you didn’t step in if u felt in your heart they were in over their head!? You didn’t want the burden in my onion! That’s my opinion! Coming to visit and going home was more than enough for here!

[@chilenitaprotrump]

@@cassieej EXACTLY! Her siblings are mentally incapable!

[@missy8867]

I agree! I can't believe that they would even be found fit to stand trial. Being a caretaker is extremely hard for people that don't have intellectual or developmental disabilities. What on Earth was the jury thinking?

[@marieseraphin7547]

The other daughter didn’t do anything to help her mother! I only saw her face, because she was always covered up! My Goodness !

[@cjking4511]

@@missy8867I agree 100 percent

[@zeewhite4880]

The jury got it wrong. Them kids IQ ain’t even registering

Kids, hello there over 40 years old

[@Lorena-qn3rg]

Yes but they don't have a lived experience of 40 year olds and they clearly have a disability intellectual. They should never have had this responsibility. The mother and father set themselves up for this outcome. The entire family including external family had a part to play. Where were the chicken loving relatives? The daughter testifying got out quick, she knew what she would have been left with...but that doesn't excuse her. .

[@KramericaIndustries7]

​@@Lorena-qn3rgI was wondering where the family was.. both in the courtroom and back when all of this was happening. Just hard to see that these two probably slipped through the cracks repeatedly and it cost Miss Sheila her life. Too many just distanced themselves when it wasn't their / a problem.

[@lady2550]

Theyre playing dumb. Yall falling for it.

[@Lorena-qn3rg]

@lady2550 No, years of being a disability Provider. Plus dont you think Dad played a part? Middle Sister played apart? Even so, if they are playing dumb( as they were raised to) it didn't help them.

[@Czarina888777]

This isn’t justice. These adults look vulnerable themselves. How can they be tasked to take care of someone bedridden?

[@inmyOWN_world]

They look like that bc they are guilty. Even people who aren't the brightest could take better care of a rock smfh

[@kimharpe6074]

This was not justice this shows how broken our system in I am so angry 😡😡😡‼️

[@sherrimoyer826]

I agree…. I would never want my children burdened like this. I’m stressed out with my mother who has dementia and can shower and toilet herself and dress still. I am 47…. I just can’t imagine…. What are they going to do with Chad that shot his 3 boys. This case blows my mind. God Please intervene… just not right.

[@coolapple8275]

How did the other sister not notice the smell!! She should be in trouble too!

[@robinb.4699]

I agree!

[@mspeaches351]

@@coolapple8275 the sister shudve been checking out her moms entire body whn visiting & insisted on removing her mom from tht house

[@lddixon2394]

@@mspeaches351 Or at least getting the authorities involved to obtain professional evaluation and assistance for her mother. She must have known her siblings were not up to the job of nursing and care-giving. As an educated person she is possibly more culpable than them.

[@funkfunkable]

She did know,that why she stayed in a hotel when she came to visit. She should have had her mom removed and sent to an assisted living facility. She failed her parents and here siblings ..pissed!!!

[@yolandacottrell5517]

@@mspeaches351 The sister knows she is wrong for not speaking up like she should have. Every time she went to visit her mother, she should have lifted those covers and checked her mother's whole body for everything! Especially when she became no-verbal. God will take care of her. If the EMS smelled the urine so strong when they went inside the house for the first time, the sister should have smelled it EVERY TIME!! Make it make sense on this one.

[@StarringKrystalHill]

This is a gross injustice. Is it not obvious that these people are unwell themselves? I don't know what is wrong, but they appear VERY incapable.

[@amyplum6296]

Could not agree more. This is horrendous. Total mis carriage of justice.

[@polly6336]

The brother looks particularly handicapped. He barely seems to know where he is, let alone what's going on. This case is so troubling.

[@cjking4511]

I agree. I was hoping the jury would have gotten it right but they totally failed here

[@sherrytaylor1794]

Agreed

[@bettybg1051]

I agree with you! I don't know how to feel yet about this verdict. They both look like they don't understand....so knowing something is wrong with them why did the sister let this happen. They were clearly over their heads. This is a tragedy🙏

[@blackswan5095]

This is sad and wrong. It's obvious these people are not capable of caring for someone in such bad health.

[@cynthialaster7416]

100%

[@Amy-oj6lu]

That so-called "nurse" should have realized that as well. To be honest, I don't think she cared because they were black and poor. She should have got them all the help that they needed.

[@AntoinetteLawson-fv5re]

@ blackswan5095. All three of these children were victims of abuse by the Father. I wish I could talk to the girls The past is oozing out of their skin thou the TV screen 😢

[@blackswan5095]

@@AntoinetteLawson-fv5re That's sad. My heart hurts for them, especially the convicted siblings.

[@BrendaAlston]

This is HORRIBLE!!!! JURORS will suffer from their decision

[@fareeda1223]

The jury absolutely got this wrong. I want to cry for them

[@asanu9904]

My blood is boiling, I’m so upset. I did cry. This is so wrong. That dam sister….. I can’t even comment because I’ll be banned

[@shelleyjackson8793]

I think this is a miscarriage of justice. Did they say the father dies after the mother? and they look so simple, bless them. I don't think they have the intellect to realise what was going on, and being bullied by their father.

[@julieandkerry7809]

I Agree

[@margarettadavis7665]

Yes you are so correct, they both look mentally unstable and the father made the choice for them when he brought her home to care for knowing none of them knew how to care of her and when he died they really didn't know how. Just a sad case 😔 💔

[@Jessica-ld5ik]

Working as a police officer most of his life and unable to afford care for his ailing wife is a crime

[@pamlove421]

Based on someone's testimony the father didn't want to sell the house. Based on what I know about Medicare is She needed to go into a full-time nursing facility. Medicare will only pay for that after you've exhausted all of your resources, up to & including your house. If they had to sell their house for mom's nursing home the others would have nowhere to live. Sad situation.

[@song8777]

They just try to get you on Medicaid, then when you and your spouse go, they take your house, so you can't leave it to your kids, unless you have enough long-term-care insurance. It almost makes Medicaid seem like a property taking scam.

[@song8777]

​​@@pamlove421Medicaid. They would've let the father keep the house until his death (or until they could get him into Medicaid in a nursing care facility before then), but it would've left the grown kids homeless. Medicare is the (usually) senior health insurance that's usually free for Part A hospital stuff, free Part B for regular doctor stuff for low income people, and there are additional parts that can be paid for. Medicaid is for disability and severe health issues of all ages, as well as for low income people for regular care, and for long-term-care for people who can't afford to pay for their own or who don't have long-term-care insurance. But, they recoup whatever money they can by taking the home (and funds, etc.) after both spouses die, so it can't be left to the adult kids, unless the house is under a life estate deed for at least 5 years before the Medicaid starts. That's what what the father was trying to do, keep the house for his kids. It seems Medicare should've covered more than what they were getting, as far as home care. I didn't even think Medicaid took care if my grandma well, at all. When I was on it a short time, about 20 years ago, other one crummy doctor, it seemed okay for me. If they'd put her on hospice, they would've most likely taken away food, water (other than swabbing the mouth), any oxygen under the nose if she'd had that, any regular prescriptions, antibiotics, and even WOUND CARE, and just kept her knocked out on morphine and Ativan, until she died. 😢 I don't think her family intended harm, just ended up not being up to the task. I hate the system. They were starving my dad in the hospital and he kept asking for food. They wouldn't give him ANY for days!

[@hatchettharley3186]

@@pamlove421Medicare pays for Short term skilled services for 60 days. Medicaid will make you spend down before they pay for LTC.

[@jafo617]

My husband made sure I would be financially taken care of while we were dating. He knew the city would try to screw me over if he got killed on the job. Thankfully that didn't happen.

[@Iama1asupernova]

They got railroaded because they didn’t have the money resources or opportunities to get good defense attorneys.

[@GrowWithMe231]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@jacklinemukiibi4388]

Yup

[@rissilient85]

Well stated.

[@jermainesanders1372]

@@Iama1asupernova I agree

[@asanu9904]

You can tell by the look on the face of the attorney standing behind the brother, she looked like she was thinking about her lunch order when they were reading the verdict

[@glendapate1960]

They shouldn't have found them guilty. They both need some help. Their lawyers did not fight hard enough for their mental state. 😢

[@colourcoco]

This is so sad. I feel for these siblings. The fact that the judge dismissed their mental delay/disability is just unfortunate. I don’t think they should have been prosecuted; instead, they should have been sent to an institution for adults with mental disabilities. Hopefully, this can be appealed.

[@cynthiafilmore450]

Yes They Both Have Something Mentally Wrong With Them They Are Not Going To Make It In Prison God Have Mercy On These Children In Jesus Name

[@asanu9904]

@@cynthiafilmore450you are a saint to even pray for them, this is making me so sad. How can we all see the same thing so clearly.

[@tara612lynn]

There's a huge difference between having mental problems and being out right insane which neither of them are, they were competent to stand trial. They're probably medicated up on a bunch of pills since they've been in jail the past 3 years. Look at the mugshots they look too different when they were arrested they knew right from wrong but were scared of their Dad he made all the decisions regarding his wife's health care, someone should have called adult protection long before she had a bone sticking out of ankle sounds like everyone was afraid of what Dad would do if that happened.

[@theodorabelema11]

No they did not. These people don't look well enough themselves.

[@TRUEWITNESS4U]

😢my heart goes out for these siblings. The eldest sister said in her testimony that they were used to living in dirty/filthy conditions even when mom was able to move around. This was something this family was raised up in and the mother allowed it. And its clear as glass that these 2 have some type of mental/development issues, even for them never even leaving home even as adults. So the father and eldest daughter bears no responsibility??? You telling me they saw an smelled no signs of getting the mom help? 1st degree murder??? Murder??? Wow!

[@KramericaIndustries7]

You're so on point... Initially when I heard "they were doing the best they could", I rolled my eyes (at that line in general) and it seems almost inconceivable how two adults could let all of that happen.. but it was obvious from appearance, circumstances, history, capabilities that these two haven't lived and functioned 'normally' for a long time, probably ever. Unfortunately the state has no interest in ANY context or understanding why or how this could happen .. just take the end result, the easy conviction, and throw away a couple of people who were thrown away a long time ago.

[@TRUEWITNESS4U]

@@KramericaIndustries7 🎯

[@asanu9904]

@@KramericaIndustries7those jurors were thinking about what they would or wouldn’t do, not taking into consideration these people were use to living in filth and not taking care of themselves. This is so wrong. And the sister is trifling, I wouldn’t expect her to step up for them cause she didn’t do it for her own mom

[@debfletcherwins6488]

​@@asanu9904Exactly. The sister testified for the prosecution.

[@robinwatson5970]

I am shocked, if the father had not died he would be up on charges because it sounds like he was the one that would not let his wife go into a home. And it’s the two siblings that are going to suffer for this, and he stated he wanted to take care of his wife. This is very sad

[@DarksideCMB]

THIS VERDICT IS DISTURBING AND "NO JUSTICE" WAS SERVED IN THIS TRAVESTY!

[@nadinedockery-green5192]

Absolutely disgusted with these verdicts 😡

[@pip5391]

The jury made the right judgement.

[@LaMe202]

I hope this overturned ! That woman and her husband made these choices! PITIFUL

[@andredacasher902]

Yes and amen!!!

[@chantellesolomon4986]

THIS IS ALL WRONG!!! THESE TWO SIBLINGS ARE VULNERABLE THEMSELVES. I AM DISGUSTED AT THAT MIDDLE SISTER AND THEIR FATHER. THE FATHER DIED, LEAVING THESE TWO HOLDING THE BAG. THE ONLY COMPETENT ONE WAS THE MIDDLE SISTER, WHO WAS THE NEGLECTFUL ONE. SHE CLAIMED THAT SHE ONLY SAW THEIR MOTHER FROM THE SHOULDERS UP...YET, SHE DIDN'T SEE THE CANDIDA ON HER NECK?!?! THAT SISTER THINKS SHE DODGED A BULLET...BUT WHAT SHE DID WAS EXPOSE HERSELF, FOR THE SELFISH, P.O.S. SHE REALLY IS. HER CO-WORKERS; FRIENDS; BOSS; EVEN HER HUSBAND AND CHILDREN IF THEY ARE DECENT PEOPLE, MUST LOOK AT HER DIFFERENTLY. EVERYBODY WANTS TO BLAME THESE TWO...BUT THE DOCTORS; HOSPITAL; HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATION; THE HUSBAND AND THAT DAUGHTER, ARE ALSO AT FAULT FOR FAILING THE DECEASED. DID ANYONE CATCH HOW THAT SISTER ACTUALLY SAID, "THANK YOU" WHEN THE PROSECUTOR OBJECTED TO THE LINE OF QUESTIONING REGARDING THE MENTAL HEALTH OF HER SIBLINGS? THAT SIBLING WAS WILLING TO LAY THE BLAME SQUARELY ON THE SHOULDERS OF HER BARELY-COMPETENT SIBLINGS, JUST SO SHE ESCAPES CULPABILITY?!? WHAT WHAT SHE REALLY DID. WAS EXPOSE HERSELF!!! HER FAÇADE HAS CRUMBLED AND NOW EVERYONE SEES HER FOR WHO AND WHAT SHE REALLY IS, AND HOW SHE REALLY TREATED HER SICK MOTHER.

[@britt383348]

This! All of this!

[@melistasy]

I don't know about blaming the other sister because it's quite possible she did not know the extent of the condition her mother was in. But the father! He's definitely to blame. He was in charge of his wife's care, and as you said, he died and left them holding the bag! 🤦🏾‍♀️ This is an injustice!

[@southernsass2937]

Guess what? We can still see you without ALL CAPS.

[@chantellesolomon4986]

​​@@southernsass2937GUESS WHAT?!? I CAN COMMENT IN ANY WAY I CHOOSE....WE.SEE.EACH.OTHER...

[@chantellesolomon4986]

​@melistasy re: Middle Sister...Some people CHOOSE not to "see" she didn't have to "see" ....SHE KNEW!! BUT I understand what you're saying and definitely respect your opinion

[@jonaeflure]

Worse case of justice I've ever seen! Horrible!

[@JohnTaylor-jl8ky]

Anybody in their right mind could tell they can't take care of themselves, then anybody else . I blame their sister she knew better that these two were unncapable of caring for their mother .She didn't do anything to help her mother and her siblings.

[@LaurieClausen]

i am heart sick over this. they do not seem like they were capable of caring for their mom. is there anything that can be done to help them?

[@evangelistL]

The entire family was destroyed for lack of money; the dad, the mom, and now these two adult children. What a shame.

[@susanmoore7229]

What they failed to do is horrific. But, I’m not so sure the jury got it right. I don’t believe they had a say about her not going to a nursing facility. Their dad made that decision. So… I think their appeal will be heard. Very sad all around

[@Lou-xq9br]

Sad indeed

[@CoffeeCrazy]

I do agree with they had no say but they obviously could care for her. Three people are fully capable of taking care of her. How hard is it to bath someone? They caused a broken (compound) bone and did not call for help? What did they think, the bone was going to go back in? How hard is it to clean up poop? Nope not buying it. I believe the kids did NOT want to take care of the mother and was likely mad that the father refused to put her in a facility.

[@Lou-xq9br]

Im sorry but it was the father responsible & not wanting to put mum in care home. It shouldn't have been fully their responsibility when they had no say. They are clearly vulnerable and shouldn't have been left in that position without help from authorities to help all

[@marylyons1529]

He is dead!

[@Lou-xq9br]

​@@marylyons1529duh! Was his choice to keep her there and have nothing in place for when he passed. Someone weather other sister or authorities SHOULD have stepped in, period. It is clear as day these two have issue's which will or should have been known to all

[@shantibel]

The father died 3 months after the mother, so it's highly unlikely he was able to care for his wife. There two siblings should never have had the responsibility for caring for the mother. The son lòoks incapable of grasping the situation he is in, and his sister looks vacant.

[@Lou-xq9br]

@@shantibel the other sister should have took over the responsibility & contacted relevant authorities to safeguard mum. It's clear as day the other 2 siblings have issue's and come across like they could possibly need adult social work intervention themselves so responsibility lays on her imo and shame on the jury

[@marilynh5487]

The Nurse Practitioner failed this family

[@moine3]

A few things. Stockholm Syndrome, and they seemed like they had no clue of how much trouble they were in. Seems like Dad did this and the educated sister got out.

[@itzflowers4me]

Nailed it! Two scapegoats and a golden child.

[@pollyannaprinciple5860]

How could the criminal justice system and the jurors allow these people to be charged with murder and end up in prison. They are clearly dealing with a disability. Someone help them.

[@anndavis1122]

I think they got this so wrong. I don't think neither one of them knew what to really do about their mom😢

[@Luckimee]

The jurors should be ashamed of themselves

[@mrsshelton226]

Yup

[@laurahudnell2830]

Exactly what I said. This is just horrible and their lawyers didn't do them justice either

[@aliciaharvey4253]

Incompetent Jurors SMH

[@camillaSweden]

Agree 100000%

[@cynthialaster7416]

Absolutely and the siblings don’t realize what just happened with that verdict. The lower charge of neglect I was expecting a guilty verdict on, but 1st degree, no way appropriate!

[@inf1ni7y]

This is just terrible.. it's obviously not first degree murder and they've already served time for the neglect. They've lost both their mother and father and a good bit of their sanity. I'm sorry but I'm going to respectfully have to disagree with the jury on this...

[@patricepickett8388]

Now, this just makes me so upset. We all know that these two are not fully functioning adults. I don't understand how they even were able to be tried.

[@renegadet8189]

This is so wrong. I feel sick to my stomach watching this. Praying this verdict is overturned.

[@amyplum6296]

Bullshit! They had a terrible lawyer.

[@nikkijayne4451]

Their blk and in tennessee.

[@iloveujesusxo]

This makes me sick. It takes zero discernment to see something isn't right. Lord have mercy

[@missy8867]

I agree! Their attorney put essentially no effort! Into their trial! This is disgusting!

[@iloveujesusxo]

@missy8867 I hope lawyers WITH moral integrity will step up here. Lord have your way.

[@missy8867]

​@@iloveujesusxome too! This is sickening! They didn't have the capacity to care for themselves. How could they be expected to be caretakers? It really hurts my heart.

[@Ms.Ramellibaby]

The other daughter should be charged also...sorry not sorry

[@jessika1882]

i totally agree they need to charge the other long lost sister too.

[@JennieC21]

She appeared to not care at all about her mother! Whilst not there physically everyday she said herself her family were not capable of giving the level of care the mother needed. So why when she visited didn’t she at least do what she could during that visit?? Instead she just said she only saw her head and neck!! A daughter that cared would have wanted to make her mother comfortable and willingly check and assist and WANT to at least clean, strip wash/bathe and change mum, and check that she was clean and comfortable at the very least, and she didn’t! From what’s been described, the smell alone would have made me check the others were even doing basic care, and that she was in clean bedding and clean clothes on my visits! There’s a tonne of things she could have done even from afar, like buy and send pads and mattress protectors either that could be washed and changed regularly, or disposable ones that could be replaced, new nighties and creams/lotions talc, even facecloths…so many things she could have done to assist! This mother was left to decay in her own bed!! And not one of them gave a stuff! IMO I get some folk just don’t have much money, high level full personal care would be expensive, but there is ZERO excuses for letting anyone lay in their own faeces and urine!! ZERO!

[@michaelnone5854]

@@jessika1882 Where's the justice ? She walks free but the two with serious mental health issues get locked up. I would hope the judge throws out the jurys decision in light of their mental illness. That's the right thing to do. I don't understand the prosecutors decision to go after these two but let's the other sister walk ?

[@angelawilliams9960]

I think so too. She should have looked at her Mother when she did visit. She only looked at her from the head up. I would look at everything with my Mom if I was in that situation.

[@sharonlatour6230]

@@JennieC21 They didn't want to sell the house, which is bs. I would never treat anybody like that!

[@Felisha43]

The need new lawyers. This case is one that a need a pardon if they can’t get a new trial.

[@Police_wife08]

This is NOT justice!! So sad…These 2 obviously are suffering from something..?!? The sister who had herself together should be held responsible because she KNEW better and admitted that on the stand - these 2 didn’t know any better they’d lived this way their whole life. Unreal

[@icameisaws4829]

This was so hard to watch. 😢 I worked with people like this. The had no business caring for their mother.

[@littlewhitecrow9159]

This seems off. Iq's barely at room temp.

[@sylviadurisseaux8120]

The court system is dirty in my eyes they failed Miss Murat but they got to blame somebody the same way they failed foster kids

[@Tly124]

Retrial for a less sentence

[@Anabui6462]

The state failed this family! 1st degree is a way to cover this up!

[@Indiartworks]

While I agree that a lot of assistance should have been offered and put Into place for this family, but it's not the "systems" responsibility to fail or not fail!

[@Anabui6462]

@@Indiartworks hopefully you never become vulnerable and need help!

[@carlathomas5807]

Most of these comments point to the fact that the jurors got this one wrong, and I agree.

[@williamhall1659]

These two obviously can't care for themselves. They never should have been responsible for the care of another person.

[@storii4172]

Appeal!!!

[@lilirishgrl]

Some folks just don’t know how to care for the elderly & or bedridden sickly people. I feel bad for everyone in this very sad case

[@bonniegropper]

These kids were railroaded because all they were guilty of was being in over their heads.They can barely care of themselves.

[@beverlygriffin3757]

True that. This is the state of Tennessee. Remember theirs a different in America when prosecuting Blacks vs White children. Pray this Judge have compassion.

[@nilabrandner433]

What an injustice. 😡😡

[@gnaastiin2963]

I think we all know this is wrong.

[@jacklinemukiibi4388]

Exactly. Yet, how did the 12 come to a guilty verdict? This is sad.

[@francescagibbons5842]

They look unwell themselves

[@NovemberRain007]

These two look vulnerable themselves…. Where exactly is the justice? How is this allowed!! Irresponsible attorneys, irresponsible judge, ridiculous justice system, my goodness!

[@sbss924]

This is so sad, these two look like they can barely take care of themselves. This is not right.

[@donnapavina8803]

What a GROSS miscarriage of Justice. These two siblings DID NOT MURDER their Mother. To HELL with anyone with such a lack of important compassion. Verdicts like this GUARANTEE that America WON’T be Blessed no way, no how. Shame on ALL that came to this verdict.

[@AJ030]

Exactly, preach because this is why we can't move forward as a nation, we can't make progress if we are not willing to see/have compassion.

[@Barbara6278]

Love yr comment!

[@yolandacottrell5517]

Did you even watch all of the trial? In the statements these two made to the police, they told them that didn't have time to care for their mother. They had their own lives to live. The mother's ankle was broken so bad and left uncared for so long that the exposed bone DIED! There was dried feces with mold around the injury. She had been laying in the bed for so long that her back molded to the form of the bed. She had on a dirty diaper so long that the poop had mold on it. EMS saw the mother with dried vomit on her face and shirt. Did you hear the testimony of the ER physician? They had to literally clean the mother up BEFORE they could even assess the real reason for her coming to the ER that day! So please tell me what trial did you watch to form THIS verdict of NOT GUILTY for them? Yes, there is visible mental issues with the siblings, but they also knew what they were doing. God rest the soul of their mother. May she now have peace with Our Father in Heaven.

[@Barbara6278]

@yolandacottrell5517 .. That Court trial was to put the blame on those disabled children who should have NOT been in charge of their Mom's care! The medical system, doctors, homecare, and the oldest Sister failed this family! No one gave a dam about this Family! And our Judical system is the worst ever.... I could go on and on about this case, but it's too heartbreaking.. Praying that those two mental disabled children get help they need in prison where they should not be! God will take care them.. I'm sorry that their Mom suffered..🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@donnapavina8803]

@@yolandacottrell5517 their Mother would never condemn them for being given TOO MUCH TO DO. They should have NEVER been in charge of her care.

[@tribecca626]

Its a horrible thing but FIRST DEGREE MURDER ?

[@nicoles8176]

Looking at these two, how are they capable of taking care of their mother when they don’t seem to even care for themselves.

[@PriincesaJas]

Why was there no psychological assessment done for these defendants? How is this allowed? They very clearly do not appear to be all there.

[@Faretheewell608]

If psych evaluations had been done, and found the siblings not competent, there would be no trial. If the siblings were found to be competent to stand trial, evidence of competency would not be part of the State's nor the Defendant's cases. The fact that there was an objection when defense counsel tried to introduce evidence of some concern about Michael, demonstrates mental issues were put forward, argued, and ruled upon either before or at the beginning of trial. Perhaps he had some issue at some time, but it did not affect his ability to understand right and wrong at the time of the abuse or neglect.

[@nikkib.4701]

Being a nurse, this really hit me. I don’t believe these two got justice. I hope they appeal.

[@nicoles8176]

Please help them appeal . I’m very against any abuse but these two , especially the brother, don’t look like they are all there . How can you expect them to take care of an ill person? I want justice to be faire.

[@UKProperPrepper]

Wrong decision.

[@nsomanywords3687]

This is ridiculous...Murder?

[@Lookup33]

What in the Hills Have Eyes these 2 look unkept and unwell I do not think the judge n jury took the time to consider that! I swear what’s up is down and what’s down is up in this day & age. I am pissed.

[@ONLYBEAUTIFULQUEENS]

I don't I don't even believe that they ever had an outside life they don't even know what's really going on SMH this breaks my heart And they Dad had an easy way out

[@TeWai-rj8zt]

The Competent daughter was ok about her "on the spectrum" siblings caring for their mother, my god they couldnt even clean the house properly and they were expected to know what to do about a bone sticking out the Mothers ankle! This is so wrong! The Jury did not get it right at all!

[@debrajeffries7577]

Maybe the daughter of sound mind should have been charged for neglect to everyone in that house including these 2..

[@sharonkriskovich5911]

Agree she is a liar to come in that house and smell and her mother was covered to her neck so didn't see didn't think to pull the cover back to maybe hold her mother's hand bull and she didn't see the plastic matt. She was layi.g on she is a liar and should be behind bars as well and any welfare worker that was ever in that house and looked the other way sickening

[@pamelafarrell1604]

This is an injustice. These two are obviously intellectually delayed. The older sister not on trial should have realized this and sought outside assistance. I’m not even sure these two even fully understand what’s going on here. I cannot believe in todays world with all that we’ve learned… that our justice system can still be so unjustly. So wrong here…

[@patricialk4996]

This is terrible. Those two should never have been found guilty.

[@businessismynewlife4418]

This is unfair I do not agree with the jury

[@kristenJacob727]

I’m literally in tears right now! This is absolutely disgusting. They need help not prison! Look at that poor man! He has no clue what’s going on!

[@NatashaGarcia-yx2fr]

If you ask me the oldest sister is at fault

[@cassieej]

I agree she didn’t want that burden! Her coming to visit and knowing they were in over their head and she still didn’t speak up speaks volumes! She did her part by showing face

[@laurahudnell2830]

@@cassieej I agree

[@missy8867]

I agree and the fact that she would even go to court and not defend her siblings when they very clearly are unfit to be caretakers is disgusting! She's a real piece of s***.

[@melistasy]

She didn't live there, and she went off of what her father wanted. I don't think it's her fault

[@nsomanywords3687]

What about the husband....

[@sherireedy329]

I feel so bad and sorry for poor Sheila but if I’m being honest in my heart as a long time caregiver I don’t feel as though these 2 we’re capable of caring for their mother and someone should have stepped in. I do believe they should have gotten help but honestly don’t feel like they even knew where to begin. They both obviously have mental challenges and have barely understood one minute of this trial!!! A total injustice “for me” all the way around 😢😢😢

[@sherireedy329]

@@chrismorris1810 I’m sure

[@karmakartel75]

They look slow to me I don’t know what the hells going on

[@mrich9654]

The boy is clearly mentally regarded.

[@calvinhyde3525]

They jurors should de ashamed of themselves