Veteran Scottie Pippen beefed with the Bulls because winning on a cheap contract stings | Part 2

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Secret Base

Жыл бұрын

In the '97 season Scottie Pippen was making $2.25 million, which sounds like a lot of money, I want that much money. But I'm not an elite NBA player (never given the chance).
Compared to salaries of elite NBA players, or even regular NBA players, Pippen was quite underpaid. In fact, he was the 128th highest paid player in the league. While leading, along with Michael Jordan and Dennis Rodman, the Bulls to a 5th title. Outrageous.
As you can imagine this led to bad blood-- in the form of tipsy verbal assault, near trades, purposefully delayed surgery, etc.
This is part two of the beef between Scottie Pippen and the people who paid him. AKA the beef between Scottie Pippen and the team he helped capture 6 titles. AKA Scottie Pippen vs The Chicago Bulls.
Written and produced by Clara Morris
Directed and edited by Jiazhen Zhang
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@huntereitel8305
@huntereitel8305 Жыл бұрын
“And nothing could ch…and only one thing could change his mind”. The comedic timing she has is immaculate
@seangrever3506
@seangrever3506 Жыл бұрын
Had me rolling 😂
@g6iii
@g6iii Жыл бұрын
Been a fan of hers since the casual “huh, weird” quips she would drop in the Lance Armstrong vid whenever something steroid related would come up
@loganford1220
@loganford1220 Жыл бұрын
@@maniswolftoman I mean its a script lets not look to much into it
@iang7244
@iang7244 Жыл бұрын
@@loganford1220 “Written and Produced by Clara Morris” So yeah she wrote it, and you still have to have the right inflection and cadence to make it funny, so praise is deserved.
@geekgrem
@geekgrem Жыл бұрын
@@maniswolftomandon’t you think she had influence on how it was edited 😂… that was definitely purposeful
@alfiehaigh8412
@alfiehaigh8412 Жыл бұрын
Clara is such a ridiculously good narrator and script writer. A real inspiration
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent Жыл бұрын
Hahaha ummm no
@colinoquist5224
@colinoquist5224 Жыл бұрын
@@arizonaFIREent 😑😑 imagine hating on her. She fire
@Chugins
@Chugins Жыл бұрын
I find her voice kind of annoying.
@Hakeem990
@Hakeem990 Жыл бұрын
@@Chugins She's awesome
@AspireGMD
@AspireGMD Жыл бұрын
@Danny Tallmage Um praising a woman is the last thing an incel would do.
@thando_cele
@thando_cele Жыл бұрын
The Last Dance literally scratched the surface of this beef 😂
@fredleinweber2819
@fredleinweber2819 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and I was pissed about that. I couldn't believe when it was over because they barely covered this. Secret Base did a nice job here.
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent Жыл бұрын
The Last Dance was Jordan propaganda
@tylerriley2587
@tylerriley2587 Жыл бұрын
@@fredleinweber2819 true more details but this time it’s all about Pippen
@uncreative5766
@uncreative5766 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that was bad editing on The Last Dance's part. When you're talking about Scottie Pippen being unhappy with his contract, I don't care about Michael Jordan playing baseball or coming back to visit whenever baseball season was over. That one episode where they covered Scottie sitting out that play where Kukoć hit that playoff game winner, I couldn't have cared less about what MJ thought. MJ said he told Phil Jackson, "Man, I don't know how Scottie can come back from that as the team's leader." How is that relevant? At that moment, I'd be more interested in Scottie explaining the growth in leadership. Everyone has to grow into the role, and his maturation would've been much more interesting than what Michael Jordan thought.
@tylerriley2587
@tylerriley2587 Жыл бұрын
@@uncreative5766 Pippen sitting out on final play still gives him nightmares to this day
@TNtyer.slayer
@TNtyer.slayer Жыл бұрын
Christmas eve beef? The hero we didn't know we needed coming in with the clutch save
@learicist
@learicist Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts
@jkalas9
@jkalas9 Жыл бұрын
This channel is fantastic for many, many reasons. But Clara Morris is a national treasure. I hope everyone sees it. She’s sooo good. Protect at all costs!
@Braylon1997
@Braylon1997 Жыл бұрын
I love her work on the untitled videos
@stdev.
@stdev. Жыл бұрын
Seriously 💯
@9pepe7
@9pepe7 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I love everyone at Secret Base, but she's the best
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent Жыл бұрын
Anytime I hear her annoying voice I roll my eyes she's terrible and boring
@btone310
@btone310 Жыл бұрын
Nah
@75aces97
@75aces97 Жыл бұрын
Pippen didn't have bad timing with his decision; he had the *worst* timing. It was really bananas in 1993-94 when young players angled for juicy extensions, and got them. Freshly drafted rookies successfully bargained for big contracts. All of a sudden proven superstars like Barkley, Malone, Robinson, Ewing, Drexler, and Pippen were making less $ than some guys who hadn't put on a uniform yet, and young players who hadn't done anything yet. It was insane that for a while guys like Pippen were making way less than guys who could barely make the playoffs.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
IS NOT "insult" to honour contracts Why pay HIM more when we can get MORE PIECES to surround him with??
@davdia
@davdia 2 ай бұрын
​@@darrengordon-hill ok, so this is probably going to sound either boring or condescending, or both. Renegotiating contracts in order to improve the conditions purely to improve worker satisfaction in certain cases is a thing that can be done. If Pippen would have pulled a Vince Carter and not played hard, and then they'd not have won anything, he would have still been living up to his contract. They could have doubled his salary and not have had any cap problems; ownership has always been that cheap.
@TL2354
@TL2354 2 ай бұрын
@@davdiaNo one forced Pippen to sign the contract. Pippen was also a quitter so he was always overpaid
@brianbadonde9251
@brianbadonde9251 Жыл бұрын
The salary cap box visualization was probably the best explanation I've ever heard. Bravo.
@krob41
@krob41 Жыл бұрын
Your channel’s content is A1! The writing, the graphics… absolutely incredible. The description of the change in the salary cap over time was brilliant. Bravo!
@sebastianjin9817
@sebastianjin9817 Жыл бұрын
Actually I would say that this channel's content is A5 😎
@abtwopoint0
@abtwopoint0 Жыл бұрын
Simp less
@RetroKid
@RetroKid Жыл бұрын
That last line gave me chills
@flex2timez
@flex2timez Жыл бұрын
Jordan son banging his wife should give you chills
@OmnipotentSpud
@OmnipotentSpud Жыл бұрын
Same
@jrsmith1998
@jrsmith1998 Жыл бұрын
are you gay? Same question for you @RolfTheWalker
@richardgrayson6638
@richardgrayson6638 Жыл бұрын
16:45
@RetroKid
@RetroKid Жыл бұрын
@@jrsmith1998 nice! I remember using that "insult" back in highschool when I thought it was offensive...in 1998. Good on you for being a real man who lifts weights and bangs chicks. Super jealous of you, bro, but if anyone should get it, it should definitely be you and that razor sharp wit. Hey internet, please give this dude the thumbs up he deserves for such an insightful response. I'm mashing the thumbs up but first, KZbin only lets me like it once, and second, my phone screen cracked at how hard I tried to press more than once. Good job, John Smith!
@slompywompus7966
@slompywompus7966 Жыл бұрын
Krause got a superstar for pennies on the dollar and knew that all the threats Pippen threw at him were empty because he liked winning more than money. What a GM masterclass
@SSEF15
@SSEF15 Жыл бұрын
Machiavellian of him, sure, but if it wasn’t for MJ’s existence in this universe this style of management would’ve turned the Bulls into the Twolves of the East
@Bruh-xo9xk
@Bruh-xo9xk Жыл бұрын
@@SSEF15 They kind of are the TWolves of the East now and have been for the past 20 years. Both teams have had a superstar player (DRose and KG) but both have failed to win a ring. Both are unattractive free-agent destinations and both are probably not going to win a championship anytime soon. The Wolves have a slightly better chance but not by much.
@TheFishingNomad
@TheFishingNomad Жыл бұрын
Pippen didn't have to sign that low money contact, but he did. It's on him if he was upset he wasn't getting more money.
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 Жыл бұрын
Please. Scottie didn't care about winning, he wanted out, but the Bulls refused to trade him
@felipecouto1102
@felipecouto1102 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFishingNomad That's not how it works man. Other bulls players signed lesser deals and got them remade for better. Yes, Scottie has part of the blame, but thats for him wanting security for his family. With the way his injuries went, if he didnt signed that, its entirely possible the Bulls would have traded him or sent him out without that security
@Wis_Dom
@Wis_Dom Жыл бұрын
The reason they were able to win, while having team-ending problems, has everything to do with leadership of Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson. I don't see any other team with these problems winning as much as the Bulls did.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Жыл бұрын
This is why Phil is the GOAT coach Auerbach and Pop didn't have to deal with all this BS when they won rings.
@jrsmith1998
@jrsmith1998 Жыл бұрын
Shaq and Kobe.
@lilcole9939
@lilcole9939 Жыл бұрын
Lol not true at all so basically only one person can win you games not a team effort right?🤡 Phil just got lucky twice getting Kobe and Jordan stop it Greg pop is a wayyy better coach
@Wis_Dom
@Wis_Dom Жыл бұрын
@@CrazyxEnigma Your're right. Haters all up in their girly feelings, but it don't matter. The way to prove a great coach is they manage an unmanageable, like a Rodman. Only Phil and Chuck Daily did that and had success. Phil is PROVEN. Pop couldn't even control Rodman. THAT'S A FACT! (look it up) Rodaman hated Pop but admired Phil and Chuck.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Жыл бұрын
@@batssama Your right on Pop he's still coaching so there very well could be something like this he had to deal with we don't know about. But Red? If he had to deal with this kind of stuff I think it would've come out by now as opposed to being buried and forgotten. As far as tearing down? No it isn't tearing down, when you're trying to rank the three greatest coaches ever you have to nitpick and as far as we know Pop and Red didn't have to deal with this kind of crap so that's what seals the deal for me.
@paavorossi9697
@paavorossi9697 Жыл бұрын
All-time Secret Base moment @ 5:35 😂 Great job again Clara!
@DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL
@DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
I was upset that The Last Dance didn't really want to get into this particular stain on the Bulls' 90s legacy, but fortunately Clara did and I love it!
@PeterOwens1006
@PeterOwens1006 Жыл бұрын
“There’s a golden lining to this beef and it’s made of Larry O’Brian trophies” absolutely brilliant
@ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI
@ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI Жыл бұрын
Literally had no idea Scottie went back to Chicago in 2003... That blew my mind!
@Captain_Obviously
@Captain_Obviously Жыл бұрын
He tried announcing too for like a month while he was hurt
@zegobot9674
@zegobot9674 Жыл бұрын
Scottie pipen was the most valuable bull in the 90s he led in every stat category on the team execpt points and he made the 94 ecf. With Scottie the player who is considered the goat wouldn’t have any rings the truth is Scottie is the heart and soul of the team
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Жыл бұрын
@@zegobot9674 I don't believe Jordan without Pippen is ringless, not six or two three peats sure. But ringless? No, Krause would've found a second star to pair with Jordan or he would've left the Bulls.
@victorarreola
@victorarreola Жыл бұрын
@@zegobot9674 Jordan always gives Pippen credit. Even in the last dance he says there’s no MJ without Pippen
@Vala30056
@Vala30056 Жыл бұрын
@@zegobot9674 why are you lying? Scottie didn’t lead the bulls in assists or rebounds.
@187mrsmith
@187mrsmith Жыл бұрын
Scottie is like the most under appreciated person on one of the greatest franchises that had 1 of the greatest runs!
@thebeesknees6896
@thebeesknees6896 Жыл бұрын
All while being the second best player on the team and still being under appreciated. Smh
@lukesmith9692
@lukesmith9692 Жыл бұрын
Rodman was better
@drockobama33
@drockobama33 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 nah
@69belhaven
@69belhaven Жыл бұрын
@@lukesmith9692 in his wildest dreams. Rodman was an amazing rebounder, maybe the best ever, but that's legitimately the only thing he was better than pippin at. He was worse in every other regard and wasn't even there for most of the bulls championships.
@catman-du8927
@catman-du8927 Жыл бұрын
@@69belhaven Rodman was there for half of them. Pippen was the better overall player though
@mags6946
@mags6946 Жыл бұрын
Not many people remember the fact that Pippen was playing with Injury in 96 and Dennis Rodman missed a lot of games due to suspensions and what not. They only remember 72 wins with a ring.
@MrMark19148
@MrMark19148 Жыл бұрын
No matter how many times I hear these old Bulls stories/beefs, it’s still totally fascinating every time.
@dariog36th
@dariog36th Жыл бұрын
And I always thought it was one big happy family.
@danielchand944
@danielchand944 Жыл бұрын
I so want to like Scottie. He has such an amazing back story. He grew up in one of the toughest situations of any player in history. Busted his butt to play at a low-level college team and made it to the NBA to become a 6-time champion and a top 75 player of all time. It’s an amazing story - that he completely ruins by being selfish and self-absorbed. Come on, Scottie. Have a little grace and learn to let things go.
@joeblough261
@joeblough261 Жыл бұрын
He was my favorite player of all times, but he has really gone of the rails recently. I think something flipped in him after his son's death, maybe and he just stopped giving a F***. The worst for me, was when he had his chance with Portland to best the Lakers in game 7, when they choked in the final minutes. The only team that could trouble Portland that year was LA, because nobody could stop Shaq. But Pippen didn't take charge, he kept facilitating to the other guys, Brian Grant, Rasheed Wallace, Stoudamire, etc. and they choked, but HE was the one with 6 rings, and while he wasn't in his prime, it was up to him. They won that game, they would've cake walked through the finals, and Pippen would have a 7th title without MJ, completely changing his legacy. He said after, "we played like cowards" and it was true, and it sickens me to this day.
@jennyanydots2389
@jennyanydots2389 Жыл бұрын
You mean black story instead of back story, right son?
@kasolpromodo1989
@kasolpromodo1989 Жыл бұрын
He was about to let go … until “ The Last Dance” came out.
@jennyanydots2389
@jennyanydots2389 Жыл бұрын
@@kasolpromodo1989 He was about to come out when "The Last Dance" was let go... right back in the closet again after that son.
@ChiSportsNut18
@ChiSportsNut18 3 ай бұрын
Scottie Pippen is a headcase.
@infinitymixtapes9562
@infinitymixtapes9562 Жыл бұрын
This needs more views and Clara needs a max contract
@bwink23
@bwink23 Жыл бұрын
Scottie's fault. Everyone told him not to sign his long-term deal. Even Reinsdorf told him don't sign it. Pippen wanted the security immediately.
@akeemjames2409
@akeemjames2409 Жыл бұрын
It's hard to suggest such a notion given how short an NBA career can be for guys who aren't All-Stars and Superstars. I think the whole situation was a fault on all sides
@bwink23
@bwink23 Жыл бұрын
@@akeemjames2409 Nah, the whole world told him don't sign. He gets 100% accountability for his actions. In the end, he still made more basketball salary than Michael Jordan did.
@akeemjames2409
@akeemjames2409 Жыл бұрын
@Bwink23 Who is everybody? I believe only Reinsdorf had spoken with Scottie, I don't believe it was a great deal of people. Let's not forget Reinsdorf is a billionaire who understands business, he knew Scottie had to sign that deal since it was a deal that could get him the money. Scottie is wrong for how he drug it out.
@alexescutia4805
@alexescutia4805 Жыл бұрын
@@bwink23 he played longer than jordan did of course he made more
@bwink23
@bwink23 Жыл бұрын
@@alexescutia4805 He made 15 million more. Jordan was making only a million more than Scottie, up until 1997 and 1998...when the Bulls gave MJ back pay for being underpaid his entire career.
@12packersfan
@12packersfan Жыл бұрын
Hope one day we get an hour long Kobe v Shaq history
@feardatd7961
@feardatd7961 Жыл бұрын
I loved their interview. Shaq was pissed off when Kobe won his fifth ring.
@floorgeneral309
@floorgeneral309 Жыл бұрын
One hour won’t do that justice. They’ll need a whole Last Dance type documentary
@elliemyers6435
@elliemyers6435 Жыл бұрын
@@floorgeneral309 Couldn't agree more. Jeff Pearlman has a book called "Three ring circus" that delves deep into the Shaq/Kobe Lakers and gets into a lot of their issues....but yeah, you could EASILY do a whole 30 for 30 type like 5-6 hour doc just on their beef history alone...and it would be fascinating.
@billblaski9523
@billblaski9523 3 ай бұрын
We finally got it
@cumincalamity9867
@cumincalamity9867 Жыл бұрын
That quick correction at 5:37 had me dying.
@TetuShani
@TetuShani Жыл бұрын
How any team can come together with such complex group dynamics and win one championship is truly a feat in itself. Mind blowing that the bulls did it six times
@x-man9473
@x-man9473 Жыл бұрын
The team was led by Michael Jordan. It makes sense
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa Жыл бұрын
Jordan leadership
@NotaPizzaGRL
@NotaPizzaGRL 10 ай бұрын
@@TheLionaaa Counterpoint: Washington Wizards
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa 10 ай бұрын
@@NotaPizzaGRL The Wizards were the worst team in the league and Jordan carried them to the 5th spot until his injury at 38. He was in the MVP conversation and was the only player averaging over 25/5/5. There's no counterpoint. That's BS media narrative and it was still great leadership.
@stillfree1133
@stillfree1133 10 ай бұрын
@@x-man9473Michael couldn’t even get outta the first round until pippen and Jackson came into his life
@jdmga1
@jdmga1 Жыл бұрын
I will never understand a full aggressive rebuild of a championship team. It feels so weird.
@quiltonhootenanny1174
@quiltonhootenanny1174 Жыл бұрын
I'd be willing to bet the #1 objective is to make serious cuts to the teams budget.
@exeterra4825
@exeterra4825 Жыл бұрын
When the GOAT MJ leaves for good alongside Phil Jackson you gotta rebuild
@ozora1770
@ozora1770 Жыл бұрын
@@exeterra4825 phill actually doesn't want to leave, it's Krause who hate him so much he want to get rid of him as soon as possible that's why the team broke
@Paragon-su8jt
@Paragon-su8jt Жыл бұрын
Money, it's always money
@Pantalaimon91
@Pantalaimon91 Жыл бұрын
@@ozora1770 It's ignored completely at the end but yeah. Krause was also responsible for one of the best coaches in history, and the best coach in Chicago's history, walking out of Chicago. Krause stated they could win every game that season, Jackson still wasn't getting a new contract. MJ has mentioned multiple times they, as a team, were willing to go again and see what more they had left. Krause refused in no small part because he, very arrogantly, thought he could reassemble the magic that made that team work with new faces.
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS Жыл бұрын
This entire beef can be boiled down to; Scottie Pippen signs terrible contract against advice of basically everyone, then proceeds to complain about his own decision for the next 40 years.
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa Жыл бұрын
Exactly lol
@mahmoudeltayeb2771
@mahmoudeltayeb2771 10 ай бұрын
Not really, it comes down to Jerry Reinsdorf being to stubborn to raise his salary, while then later being okay with the idea of paying MJ tens of millions a year to play minor league baseball 😂
@iampioneer81
@iampioneer81 8 ай бұрын
​@mahmoudeltayeb2771 Exactly. Everyone points to the players, nobody looks at ownership.
@Chadius_Thundercock
@Chadius_Thundercock 4 ай бұрын
@@mahmoudeltayeb2771 I don’t think you understand how large of a character Michael Jordan was in the 90’s
@JosePremo0813
@JosePremo0813 3 ай бұрын
Wym people reconstruct contracts that was greed the bulls been cursed since 🤷🏽‍♂️
@ShynyMagikarp
@ShynyMagikarp Жыл бұрын
been binging beef history the past few weeks and this two parter was really one of the best that’s ever been done. The excerpts taken from Pippen’s Unguarded book added A TON to this video. Thanks so much for reading it and finding the details those of us who haven’t read it yet have missed out on. What a gold mine! I can’t imagine what other goodies are in there that didn’t make the final cut for this
@MoanTheCelts
@MoanTheCelts Жыл бұрын
Not the only who’s been waiting on this beef
@zegobot9674
@zegobot9674 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how valuable to bulls pipen was now you might think I’m crazy but he was more valuable than mj. Yet so disrespected he led the bulls in alll stat category’s execpt points and almost made the finals in 94. In reality he was the heart and soul of the team and without him mj would have no rings
@oscarbenitah4718
@oscarbenitah4718 Жыл бұрын
@@zegobot9674
@zegobot9674
@zegobot9674 Жыл бұрын
@@oscarbenitah4718 wtf
@oscarbenitah4718
@oscarbenitah4718 Жыл бұрын
@@zegobot9674 bro said scottie > mj
@marioaustin9312
@marioaustin9312 Жыл бұрын
Scottie pippen and clara Morris both underrated and deserve more love.
@Heiteinah
@Heiteinah Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, Clara, as always. Thank you SB staff for the great videos over the years so far.
@patbres1205
@patbres1205 Жыл бұрын
Y’all make my drives around Boston so much better. Genuinely, thank you 😊
@kylesilvers6028
@kylesilvers6028 Жыл бұрын
Clara, just wanted to let you know you absolutely killed this video and keep up the awesome work, don't doubt your skill again you're and awesome narrator that can grab the attention viewers easily.
@ardaozoner
@ardaozoner Жыл бұрын
Such an amazing way to explain the salary cap system.
@mikebrazao1836
@mikebrazao1836 3 күн бұрын
It's really not a complicated concept.
@shamptown
@shamptown Жыл бұрын
I love the conclusion of this Beef History. Contextualizing the intensity of the beef wrt the dominance of the Bulls' dynasty is just one more example of how great those teams were
@FutureShockPC
@FutureShockPC Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this since the first video. Anything Bulls related I’m watching. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@alexscotto9365
@alexscotto9365 Жыл бұрын
You guys always kill it with with story telling!
@187mrsmith
@187mrsmith Жыл бұрын
His beef was understood he wasn't appreciated People forget how much Scottie helped Michael along the way! Before he came there Jordan always struggled 2 get out the East!
@corpyhogan4433
@corpyhogan4433 Жыл бұрын
Which is why I don’t know why people are revising history. That doesn’t take anything away from Jordan. It’s just a fact.
@Tdull-tv1ds
@Tdull-tv1ds Жыл бұрын
It’s almost, and the key word is almost, how Klay Thompson felt when 2k launched his overall rating for NBA 2k23. You can’t just have Steph Curry and not have Thompson with him to help shed some of the 3-pt load. Look at the Warriors’ Win/Loss record without Klay and you’ll realize how much they needed both of the Splash Bros in order to have a chance to come out of the West.
@Krackerboy901
@Krackerboy901 Жыл бұрын
He was very appreciated until his ego started slandering and hating everybody and everything
@KingAP33
@KingAP33 Жыл бұрын
Real bulls fans haven’t forgotten how important Pip was to those Chicago bulls. I don’t know where y’all get that from
@geekgrem
@geekgrem Жыл бұрын
@@Krackerboy901… you know this is false the general consensus was that it was MJ and the Bulls … NBA on NBC literally narrated the intro as if it was a Jordan movie
@todddonaldson7974
@todddonaldson7974 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the last minute Christmas gift Clara
@helmutsantos5127
@helmutsantos5127 Жыл бұрын
I really love this video. It covered everything during that beef time. Thank you.
@KidFresh71
@KidFresh71 Жыл бұрын
Your voice-over work is top notch. Another fantastic piece!
@richardgrayson6638
@richardgrayson6638 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for part 2 !! Let's go!!
@tylerriley2587
@tylerriley2587 Жыл бұрын
Same
@nanakb7785
@nanakb7785 Жыл бұрын
I loved this re-telling of Scottie's history. Felt a little more real than what we saw on The Last Dance in some cases. The last few setences really makes you think about this whole ordeal: Was winning all those championships amidst all the internal flaws the Bulls had worth it? Nontheless remarkable how they dominated the 90s ins spite of this.
@sultanabran1
@sultanabran1 Жыл бұрын
these two videos are so good. thanks for making them.
@MrIgnaxius
@MrIgnaxius Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas SB nation, thank you for this wonderful upload. 🎉
@rstidman
@rstidman Жыл бұрын
I saw Scotty pimping his liquor at the local South Lamar Wine and Spirits store in my neighborhood earlier this year, and he was the same Surly the Legend we've come to love. I brought my watch collection because I needed something to set all of them to, and Scotty is on time every time with his disgust for being there, wherever "there" is that day.
@savannahhill2818
@savannahhill2818 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 not the watch collection!!
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Жыл бұрын
That is like one step above being the celebrity guest at a furniture store opening. Why to these celebs who are already multimillionaires sell their own liquor brand. Like why do we need to drink tequila or vodka that gets pushed by some celeb.
@migrantson
@migrantson Жыл бұрын
Great doc and read! I'm sure a lot of his behavior is regrettable but I have great empathy for Pippen. Raised in generational poverty in Jim Crow AK, 11 siblings, an aging mother, and a father who requires round-the-clock medical care...and here he is executing at the HIGHEST level of professional sports and helping to build a billion-dollar brand. There is NO guarantee of a next season and career-ending injuries lurk with his amount of playtime...the $ he could be getting not only changes the life of his parents and siblings, but for him and his kids, and possibly their kids...it really can feel like life or death. And ownership is playing games and not showing you your value...I would be heated too.
@Orangejr36
@Orangejr36 Жыл бұрын
They covered all that in part 1
@migrantson
@migrantson Жыл бұрын
@@Orangejr36 oh cool I didn't know there was a part 1 thx!
@Orangejr36
@Orangejr36 Жыл бұрын
@@migrantson no problem
@Chadius_Thundercock
@Chadius_Thundercock 4 ай бұрын
How can you say management is playing games while Scottie cried trade anytime they didn’t bend over backwards for him
@trethetree
@trethetree Жыл бұрын
I love all of the content and people on this channel
@nickabbott2492
@nickabbott2492 10 ай бұрын
I don’t even watch basketball but I love these videos. They’re fascinating to me to hear about these all stars behind the scenes issues.
@sleepnosis
@sleepnosis Жыл бұрын
I see Scottie’s perspective but when he refused to take the floor when the play was not called to give him the last shot he lost too much respect to get in the good graces with fans so nobody cared as much at how he was being underpaid because of it.
@Riri-oj1zs
@Riri-oj1zs Жыл бұрын
It was Phil and Michael who held that team tight during the second three-peat. Superb mental fortitude.
@dariog36th
@dariog36th Жыл бұрын
Yeah cause no team in the league wanted Rodman. San Antonio pretty much have him away. But Krause took Jackson with him to meet with Rodman before the start of the 95-96 season so he could lay down the law.
@KrayzieMofoGuy
@KrayzieMofoGuy Жыл бұрын
Hope you guys do a Part 3 covering Pippen vs Jordan. MJ's son dating Larsa Pippen is one of the wildest dramas I can ever think of.
@TheW11slim
@TheW11slim Жыл бұрын
This was a Merry Christmas, thanks Secret Base
@samortmann5003
@samortmann5003 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the alternate history if Scottie gets dealt to Seattle for Kemp.
@damionallen8349
@damionallen8349 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Jordan 3 rings
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Жыл бұрын
If that deal goes through they don't bother signing Rodman and I doubt they three peat again. Kemp was good but he doesn't have Pippen's versatility.
@futuretimetraveller8677
@futuretimetraveller8677 Жыл бұрын
@@CrazyxEnigma why would they not sign rodman?
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Жыл бұрын
@@futuretimetraveller8677 Because they both play PF. Also Rodman had a worse reputation than Dwight at the time any other coach then Phil Jackson doesn't get anything out of him.
@futuretimetraveller8677
@futuretimetraveller8677 Жыл бұрын
@@CrazyxEnigma it would work because rodman was not an offensive threat and kemp WAS so they could use them both or dennis 4 and kemp 3 sometimes but you're right probably they would not have taken the chance on dennis if they had kemp already
@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly Жыл бұрын
Imagine how much more attention this would have gotten if Twitter existed back then
@MazeDaGr8
@MazeDaGr8 Жыл бұрын
If Twitter existed back then a lot of team would have fell apart more than this one
@houssamk777
@houssamk777 Жыл бұрын
Amazing content like always
@raahmeanskingg
@raahmeanskingg Жыл бұрын
Another masterpiece by Clara Morris, Merry Christmas Secret Base!!
@FalconPaladin
@FalconPaladin Жыл бұрын
As a Jazz fan, it's pretty painful to realize that maybe Stockton would have a ring of Pippen had actually forced his way out of Chicago at some point.
@CappenKrunch
@CappenKrunch Жыл бұрын
Standing Ovation 👏 Absolutely Outstanding 👏 Yes 🙌
@downrighttt
@downrighttt Жыл бұрын
Yet another banger! Merry Christmas to all at SB who celebrate. Enjoy time with your families and take some time off! You've all earned it
@davionwilliams4011
@davionwilliams4011 Жыл бұрын
Clara's comedic timing is great, and I live for the "good night and good game" sendoff
@anthonyjudeaggabao2302
@anthonyjudeaggabao2302 Жыл бұрын
I just find this Chicago team a cornerstone for professionalism. Hating each other but still showing up to win. Thats a scary team to face
@Darthtanos
@Darthtanos Жыл бұрын
shaq and kobe are a good example of that as well.
@yazeedalsalmi1816
@yazeedalsalmi1816 Жыл бұрын
Locking yourself in a long contract is a big mistake, and he was told so. But he desperately wanted financial security, he was so afraid of getting a career-ending injury and he couldn’t risk losing the money, which was a very small chance considering how hard he worked on his body and game. The lesson here is don’t let your fears drive you, instead bet on yourself just like MJ did by signing for 1 year and get paid double every year.
@mags6946
@mags6946 Жыл бұрын
Nah. MJ was under the same long term contract, and probably more underpaid than Pippen because of the fact that MJ was the one who was putting people on the seats. Even Wilt Chamberlain said every player should give a percentage of their earning to Mike because of what Mike did for the game's popularity. The lesson here is be PROFESSIONAL,. Jordan earned way more when he retired than when he played because he had that REPUTATION. Business people are willing to INVEST on him because he is a PROFESSIONAL.
@yazeedalsalmi1816
@yazeedalsalmi1816 Жыл бұрын
@@mags6946 True, Mj revolutionized the game and all of Chicago sports. Can’t argue w that, from a contract standpoint, he was signing for 1 single year after he came back from retirement thou he was aging meaning an increase in the possibility of him getting injured, but he believed on himself and his worth.
@mags6946
@mags6946 Жыл бұрын
@@yazeedalsalmi1816 he KNOWS what he is doing. Thing about MJ that no one pays attention to is that MJ was really CLOSE to his parents. His parents are hardworking people who spent quality time with their kids. MJ had that CONFIDENCE that only good parents can give.
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Жыл бұрын
the lesson is, do what you truly want whatever it is. And dont whine after the fact. He could have decided against signing early and gotten a career ending injury. And then your "advice" falls apart. Dennis Schroeder "bet on himself". By that he lost about 80 million dollars and now was resigned to the Lakers for a minimum salary. 2 million instead of 22 per year.
@luisvergara6502
@luisvergara6502 Жыл бұрын
@@yazeedalsalmi1816 No! Jordan was on the same contract he had before retiring in 93 which was way underpaid considering him being the best player in the league. He played that contract through the 95-96 season when he won his 4th title. Then he followed with 1 year deals the last 2 seasons with the Bulls for his last 2 titles.
@RushNZ
@RushNZ Жыл бұрын
Great work!
@KimRaabjerg
@KimRaabjerg Жыл бұрын
As good as you all are at Secret Base, my favorite is you Clara. Another well done video.
@pauljansen1137
@pauljansen1137 Жыл бұрын
Everybody should see "The Last Dance"........explains everything about that 97-98 season!
@djtrankilo231
@djtrankilo231 Жыл бұрын
I gotta watch it again.
@steelsolider95
@steelsolider95 Жыл бұрын
Jordan made propaganda
@chunkz1187
@chunkz1187 Жыл бұрын
How can you not love Clara? She’s the greatest
@RequiemForABuckeye
@RequiemForABuckeye Жыл бұрын
Her voice
@cm9241
@cm9241 Жыл бұрын
​@@RequiemForABuckeye what about it?
@snail4253
@snail4253 Жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas and Holidays Secret Base gang
@JustNeedaBeerandPark
@JustNeedaBeerandPark Жыл бұрын
Krause warned him in 91...Don't sign the contract....It's going to be outmoded.....He refused...So...I don't feel sorry for him.
@Jeff_Pryce
@Jeff_Pryce Жыл бұрын
It was still Pippen’s own fault for signing that bad deal. Even Reinsdorf told him “If I were you, I wouldn’t take that deal.” He should have known his worth and bet on himself. If he had, he’d have been among the top 10 highest paid players in the league for most of his career instead of the 91st paid. It’s a bad situation, but he was warned, he signed anyway and management decided to hold him over a barrel. 🤷‍♂️
@jordanhutton5787
@jordanhutton5787 Жыл бұрын
To make it even worse he signed that deal right before the league revenue and popularity was about to blow up especially after the '92 Olympics.
@neb185
@neb185 Жыл бұрын
Just remarkable they won so much with such a mess surrounding it. Amazing job as always.
@Tboneman
@Tboneman Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Santa Clara, for this Christmas gift of beef!
@dankicks
@dankicks Жыл бұрын
This beef was that Gold-encrusted Steak you get at one of Salt-baes restaurants 😂
@SanDiegoDaD
@SanDiegoDaD Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jmtheboss6472
@jmtheboss6472 Жыл бұрын
Please do Reggie Miller untitled or deep rewind on his shot versus the bulls in 1998
@Michael-eq8th
@Michael-eq8th Жыл бұрын
Just not Reggie Miller Collapse 😢
@elnin74
@elnin74 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Informative
@2k1v1er2
@2k1v1er2 Жыл бұрын
Yes finally part2
@cashmoney4344
@cashmoney4344 Жыл бұрын
Great job with this montage of Scottie vs Bulls and Kawhi vs Spurs. Those two parter beef episodes were a treat. If you guys would like suggestions on any potential video ideas, here are some that could be good: Collapse 2008 Celtics, 2006 Colts, 2015 Broncos, 2017 Eagles, 2016 Falcons, 2011 Canucks, 2004 Flames, 2006 Oilers, late 90’s/early 2000’s Devils, late 90’s/early 2000’s Avalanche, 1999 Dallas Stars, 2000’s-late 2010’s San Jose Sharks, 2016 Cubs, 2015 Royals, early 2010’s Giants, 2011 Cardinals, 2005 White Sox, 2001 Diamondbacks, 1995 Braves Rewinder Ron Artest game winner vs Suns Pau Gasol series winner vs Thunder Richard Sherman deflection vs 49ers 2013 NFC Championship Game Damian Lillard series winner vs Thunder John Stockton series winner vs Rockets John Paxson and Steve Kerr’s championship clinching game winners Robert Horry clutch 3 vs Kings Robert Horry clutch 3 vs Pistons Beef History: Isiah Thomas vs Michael Jordan Isiah Thomas vs Magic Johnson Stephon Marbury vs Larry Brown Pat Riley vs Knicks Stephon Marbury vs New York Bobby Clarke vs Eric Lindros Reggie Miller vs Spike Lee
@chrislacy1990
@chrislacy1990 Жыл бұрын
I said it before during ‘The Last Dance’ and I’ll say it again: Imperfect people dealing with imperfect people is hard. While I understand Scottie Pippen fighting for his worth, he chose to sign a bad contract in 1991. Because of that, HE is the reason for the beef.
@20marvelman
@20marvelman Жыл бұрын
If you saw the first episode, it was from a place of desperation.
@chrislacy1990
@chrislacy1990 Жыл бұрын
@@20marvelman Hey!! I did see the first episode, and I admire him for thinking of his family. That said, he still signed a bad contract when several people around him told him there’s no turning back.
@christian-lf2oc
@christian-lf2oc Жыл бұрын
@@chrislacy1990 easy for us to say you weren’t I. His position
@chrislacy1990
@chrislacy1990 Жыл бұрын
@@christian-lf2oc OK cool. We all make tough decisions in life. Whatever the consequences are, we must live with them.
@mrrobot8973
@mrrobot8973 Жыл бұрын
@@chrislacy1990 guy said “easy for you to say” as if it’s not the exact truth of what happened.
@adi_2
@adi_2 Жыл бұрын
Have you noticed how scottie doesn't take any responsibility? Dude was never going to be the #1
@NateMcCoy1194
@NateMcCoy1194 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal vid as usual. There’s one beef that is still unsolved with this man though. And I think we all know what it is.
@RobsEverywhere
@RobsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Pippin ain't easy.
@Samsonjukeria
@Samsonjukeria Жыл бұрын
We need to give Jordan props for winning 3 after this headache . Very underrated
@TheDwightMamba
@TheDwightMamba Жыл бұрын
I love when I hear Clara's voice open a Secret Base video!!!!
@MaverickIceman
@MaverickIceman Жыл бұрын
Scottie would fit right in with this generation's players. What a baby
@oeao2841
@oeao2841 Жыл бұрын
He signed that deal in 1991 cus he was desperate he had to take care of his brother who was paralyzed
@jrbehr4643
@jrbehr4643 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is part two of this story, they covered that fact in part one
@MikeBNumba6
@MikeBNumba6 Жыл бұрын
Management and his agent told him to not sign it too
@getoffthisrocktravel2054
@getoffthisrocktravel2054 Жыл бұрын
Yeah both his father who had a stroke and brother are in wheelchairs. Pippen himself was a risk with back problems as well so there was a backended insurance deal that Reisendorf mentioned but didn't go into detail about it in the last dance documentary.
@learicist
@learicist Жыл бұрын
Covered in part 1 of this
@tylerriley2587
@tylerriley2587 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeBNumba6 selling his soul to the devil
@ryanzepp8897
@ryanzepp8897 Жыл бұрын
Clara Morris tha GOAT
@allsystemsgo8678
@allsystemsgo8678 Жыл бұрын
No
@stevenneato3518
@stevenneato3518 Жыл бұрын
been waiting for this video lets gooo
@THROWBACK_Sports
@THROWBACK_Sports Жыл бұрын
If that Pippen for Kemp trade went through.. Sonics would've won at least 2 titles. What a menacing tandem of The Glove and Pippen? Yikes
@TL2354
@TL2354 Жыл бұрын
They would have won zero rings
@THROWBACK_Sports
@THROWBACK_Sports Жыл бұрын
@@TL2354 thank you for that beautiful basketball analysis
@fiiiftyfour
@fiiiftyfour Жыл бұрын
Clara is irreplaceable man, love when she does the scripts every time
@Isaiahturtlezeke
@Isaiahturtlezeke Жыл бұрын
I think we need a Scottie Pippen/MJ beef with Isiah Thomas
@matthewlo7868
@matthewlo7868 Жыл бұрын
Yes. And maybe even a Kobe v Shaq..
@jasondyrkacz8270
@jasondyrkacz8270 Жыл бұрын
It all started with Bobby Knight liking MJ more.
@ElLotdog
@ElLotdog Жыл бұрын
Well told and entertaining 👍👍
@neon_charm_catgirl
@neon_charm_catgirl Жыл бұрын
it is always Xmas when Clara narrates an NBA video
@StretchCameron
@StretchCameron Жыл бұрын
Five stars. Clara Morris deserves all of the monies.
@luccas_alcindo
@luccas_alcindo Жыл бұрын
Great content.
@fammendez
@fammendez 7 ай бұрын
Youre the best Clara. Thanks.
@mohamedmaiza3866
@mohamedmaiza3866 Жыл бұрын
The ending was great! Jordan could not be denied his rings. Awesome video!
@AirRusher1992
@AirRusher1992 Жыл бұрын
My comment for this one is already in Part 1. Although I will add on this it's actually pretty weird to see a player have beef with their own team which isn't weird because we saw with Kawhi and the Spurs years later. Btw Merry Christmas to everybody at Secret Base. I wish you guys keep up making more contents like this from any sports particularly in the NBA.
@antoinemilien6864
@antoinemilien6864 Жыл бұрын
@@abhi2013roy He never claimed that they were the same thing. Nice try, though.
@arcticus4758
@arcticus4758 Жыл бұрын
It's weird but it's not weird? I'm confused
@AirRusher1992
@AirRusher1992 Жыл бұрын
@@arcticus4758 It's weird because I feel like having a grudge against your own team felt strange but at the same time it's not weird because we've seen this over the years of watching and following the NBA like with the Kawhi and the Spurs that I've just mentioned.
@AirRusher1992
@AirRusher1992 Жыл бұрын
@@abhi2013roy Well it's sports so it is what it is.
@OmnipotentSpud
@OmnipotentSpud Жыл бұрын
Jordan and Kemp would have been really neat. The baskets would be demolished.
@HateTaxesWASt
@HateTaxesWASt Жыл бұрын
Would've made #4 Championship much more interesting, Payton and Pippen vs Jordan and Kemp
@michaelallen8112
@michaelallen8112 Жыл бұрын
No they wouldn't cuz Kemp need a pg who can feed him as well would had to learn how to play in triangle offense as well. Man y'all say anything
@tylerriley2587
@tylerriley2587 Жыл бұрын
​@@michaelallen8112 that’s why the Sonics backed out when they heard fans threatening to riot if the deal went through Krause is a two-faced man who didn't care about keeping the bulls together
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelallen8112 Y'all? are you coming from milking your pigs? Bulls had BJ Armstrong and later Kerr who were both very capable spacing the floor and facilitating AND obviously able to play triangle offense. Y'ALL.
@michaelallen8112
@michaelallen8112 Жыл бұрын
Scottie was facilitator Batman of the Bulls triangle off. If he's not there it not gonna work at it best. aAs Architect Tex Winter mention
@ClutchTalkPod
@ClutchTalkPod Жыл бұрын
Wow… what a great explanation of the scottie Pippen salary situation.
@spectacularlysentimental
@spectacularlysentimental Жыл бұрын
Wonderful two-parter!
@MGaluski72
@MGaluski72 Жыл бұрын
Question if Pippen played for 10 mil a year and averaged 5 points per game would he think it’s fair to renegotiate for less money, no. Pippen signed a bad deal that the owner and gm said was a bad deal and told him straight up I’m not gonna renegotiate after that. Also MJ only made over 4 mil a year for 2 seasons in his career. So MJ won multiple rings and mvps, was the best player in the league and was only making between 2-4 mil a year.
@blackgallgher8747
@blackgallgher8747 Жыл бұрын
Jordan didn't get the huge paydays until he came back from baseball
@melvynsngltn27
@melvynsngltn27 Жыл бұрын
Who offered Pippen the bad deal?? The owner new exactly what he was doing
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Жыл бұрын
@@melvynsngltn27 the connotation it's a bad deal is subjective. it was a deal. Period.
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