Apex 2015 - Leffen (Fox) Vs. PPMD (Marth) - Winners Finals - SSBM

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[@dmullen1994]

This is one of the greatest melee sets of all time.

[@treehann]

This and PP vs Armada are the ones I keep coming back to. Such an epic run for PPMD and I absolutely love how hyped up the crowd is, it gets me excited every time. Whether it's the screaming during this set or the "FALCOOOO" chant during PP Armada set 1... I love smash :D

[@mrm64]

@@treehann I always come back for PPMD's Shoryuken pop off here too lol XD

[@darkkevindu6982]

@@treehann Armada is better. Armada is the best. Armada is the GOAT.

[@treehann]

@@darkkevindu6982 cut the blue wire

[@theonlybass8947]

@@darkkevindu6982 there’s an argument to be made for Mang0 being the goat but alright

[@chriscastle1629]

i love how theres so much tension at 4:05 that someone screams

[@kongqianfu]

that was my favorite part xD

[@heavybassbooty4614]

ur profile photo and that comment made my day lmao

[@myjapanesejourney-6926]

Yo is that the guy that voiced Diddy Kong.

[@DapuffStuff]

Half a million views, damn, I miss PPMD.

[@RemixSSBM]

sad reacts only

[@blazehawkz8760]

Dapuffdaddy 69 it was a mix of people wanting to see Leffen get bodied and just PPMD himself.

[@rashauncampbell2804]

Dapuffdaddy 69 Ultra PP -INVADER ZIM REFERENCE

[@Jv615]

Almost 700k now :)

[@wesleychalmers7648]

Well, at least he's streaming again, for now.

[@realmofmadness3473]

PPMD wasn’t just the best Melee player. He IS the best Melee player. Maybe not so much in a skill set anymore, but definitely in an admiration kind of way. I don’t care if he hasn’t attended a major tournament in roughly 2 years and hasn’t placed well in the recent Nationals he has gone to. When this man was on point, nobody was stopping him. Coming from a region with no competitive smash influence in that of North Carolina, to dealing with the emotional baggage of depression, suicidal thoughts, and disapproval of parents, and finally all his health concerns which have continually worsened, to be able to win this tournament in which nobody thought he could do it is a thing of beauty. You can see him struggling at times during this set with missing follow ups, and relatively poor punishments. This set was a super close 5 game set, and it could’ve easily gone to Leffen. But as a personification for PPMD’s life, dealing with all his struggles, he still prevailed. I hope one day this man can come back. The beautiful game of Melee needs its most beautiful player.

[@mikemccranie1092]

well said!

[@peashooter6628]

He's still one of the only 3 players to win a tournament with all 5 gods in attendance. Something only Armada and Mango have done besides him.

[@Pan_Z]

@@peashooter6628 Hbox did it too at Battle of the FIve Gods

[@solracv8528]

Armada is the best melee player lol

[@katiieeardley]

@@solracv8528 Agreed... but if they both, idk, wanna come back and money-match for the title I'd be down to see them both play again ;(

[@Trance_Kitsune]

4:05 the screams express how everyone in the crowd felt haha. Whoever that person was, I love you.

[@MrHitchslap]

***** I know there's no way to prove it but that was actually me LOOL I had so much excitement cause it was my first national!

[@daikumi]

HingleMcCringleBerry26 that's cool

[@JordanMSeverns]

It was the same dude doing all the whistles and stuff

[@Bread_Bug]

@@MrHitchslap you’re a legend

[@ShiivGaming]

RIP to whoever died at 3:06

[@sabre389]

+Sam Shiiv They person makes that noise is so many sets, sounds like a chimpanzee lol

[@KoiandDragon]

+Sam Shiiv This comment! 😂 You're killing me fam! 4:05 he comes back to life!

[@desp119]

+KoiandDragon Sounds like a fucking parrot

[@smashbrospippop1931]

It was michael jackson!!

[@TheZeroTerra]

Sam Shiiv Same. I had questions while watching this bro was screaming like he saw the fear of God

[@TehRealLemmyKoopa]

PPMD has to be my favorite melee player. The way he plays is just a sight to see. The man deals with health issues and depression and all these things and he can still show up after half a year of not and wreck house. Can't wait for him to return

[@NightCrafted]

PPMD's Marth is a thing of beauty.

[@saiksaikatai594]

+BrickerBlocky yeah! but less than m2k's marth

[@EPICguy49]

The differences really do show. PPMD does a lot better in the Peach and Falcon matchup with Marth and M2k is way better in the spacies matchup with Marth (Although he's getting better in the icies and peach matchup recently)

[@7tales357]

well whatever the difference, its really close

[@nibnibster7301]

he 4 stocked m2k's marth using his own, I know I'm 10 months late but tf?

[@aeronine6977]

*a thing of spam chaingrabs PP is such a good player and it just fucking pisses me off to see him play like a little bitch

[@YacubCubby13579ZR]

10:20 is the fastest fast-fall wavedash ledge grab I've ever seen.

[@jakelalala4077]

that was ridiculous...

[@ijuka]

It actually was too slow by quite a bit. Leffen's forward B just was too low to grab the ledge.

[@TWO_EZ]

ijuka yes

[@RuneskyProductions]

I'm not trying to be a dick but I believe it was a dash dance to an incredibly quick backwards wavedash ledgegrab.

[@toolong46]

ijuka It was slower but not because fox was too low. Fox can't grab the edge until his side b animation is done. If leffen canceled the side b he may have grabbed it before marth. Fox was at the ideal height, its unfortunately due to the animation that marth grabbed it before.

[@Elixir_25S]

TrunksMD has seen 20XX in the future and travels back in time to put a stop to it.

[@Stig217]

Interesting!

[@ttripathy5664]

Leffrieza attempting to beat TrunksMD after the disfunctional timeline where he beats manGoku, loses while putting up a fight.

[@samuelvibritannia4831]

How the hell does PPMD keep track of his own dash dance

[@johnnycrash4892]

I bet he doesn't even know.. he just FEELS it...

[@SoftBreadSoft]

@@johnnycrash4892 Pretty much, when you do something for thousands, tens of thousands of hours, your instinct becomes more complex or nuanced than your language of systems etc. That's why explanations of footsies/dashdancing and other things are so esoteric and we just nail it down to "play a lot and you'll figure it out."

[@t9t9t9t9t9]

@@SoftBreadSoft 10's of thousands of hours lol...

[@SoftBreadSoft]

​@@t9t9t9t9t9 Yes. Tens of thousands of hours. Playing the same game. That is why there is a massive gap between the above average and the masters. (In all avenues of life.)

[@t9t9t9t9t9]

@@SoftBreadSoft you should check your numbers lol. i know people that have played the same game for 15+ years, and it's not in the "10's of thousands"... you're acting like people have 40,000 hours on a game, they dont lol. link one steam profile among the millions of users where someone has 30-40 thousand hours in a game, i'll wait.

[@BaneOfXistence4]

Look at 4:57 when PPMD up-air's Leffen on the top platform. It looks as if the lightsaber item materializes for a frame or two and then disappears. That's crazy.

[@MadeekSozmal]

Pp with with the god tier product placement

[@CecilioLanz]

Cállese Komander. Vaya mejor a hacer corridos

[@oscarosuna13]

Vete al rancho komander e.e

[@raulsaucedostuff]

El Komander Que random con estos comentarios en este video jaja.

[@richlb5357]

Que no te habiamos dicho que te regreses a hacer corridos? Deja a Smash para despues

[@alannamceachin8777]

Dios mi

[@TaoPhysiques]

I notice PPMD nods his head and has a "Thinker" moment right after he loses a stock. It's like he's acknowledging how he lost that stock and approving Leffen for the good play.

[@grillburn4757]

In the audience somewhere, a bird is cheering for Leffen.

[@hadesthegod9181]

19:33 such an iconic cut of their handshake. PP's reaction. I love it.

[@Roiku15]

Considering how much PPMD was going through, this is a story of such triumph.

[@julianmanjarres1998]

I love it when the crowd goes "ey!" When marth does an up throw xD

[@taylorbee4010]

"showing my age" in smash is remembering 2006.

[@TheShangryLlamas]

that was ten years ago

[@marychheng6506]

nice observation sherlock

[@lewissteward65]

@@TheShangryLlamas 15 now

[@TheShangryLlamas]

@@lewissteward65 i have no idea why i made that original comment

[@Lightningsnowstorm]

Come back ppmd ;_;

[@comet8157]

+Lethal Pichu He's gonna play at Genesis which is in like 8 days

[@Kuating]

+MEME_ REICH well

[@nick7927]

Sad Pinniped he still ain't back lul

[@johnnycrash4892]

:(

[@neon-tv9ie]

I will never get over Marth's death scream. It just always sounds funny. "WAAAAAAAAH!"

[@kempessfa1946]

Anyone else saw the post match interviews? Leffen was johnsing hard.

[@djentlee9064]

So what, everyone johns for mango etc does it even matter, it's a terrible overrused meme

[@Linkale14]

Djentlee I wouldn't call "Johns" a meme. It's more jargon at this point. It's basically just a word to replace excuses people make for losing. Yeah, everyone does it too a certain extent, but some more than others.

[@xdairybastardx]

Yall think because he was sick and shit that he was johnsing. A john is when you think you lost because of stupid shit like controller unplug, lag, its the games fault. him being sick can affect his gameplay, just like if PP lost he'd say it was him being jet-lagged and tired aswell. Get it right, things can affect how you play. You dont have to call johns just cause he was ill.

[@JohnWittle]

xdairybastardx Bro, if while I was playing a tournament game, my CONTROLLER CAME UNPLUGGED, i would john too

[@xdairybastardx]

John Wittle Right, because if it came actually unplugged, thats not a john, that's a legitimate reason to pause. Saying it slightly unplugged, re-plugging your controller after a loss, complaining about lag, your controller isnt working properly; all of these are johns. a john = a stupid excuse for your loss, an excuse outside the boundaries of reason.

[@Olivysg]

Somehow i get the feeling PPMD is sponsored by Monster... I dunno.

[@smittyyagermanjenson2067]

Energy drinks commonly sponsor competitive gamers, but I think Monster and EG are affiliated more than just PP and Monster. That's a good point tho

[@williamgrand9724]

He was holding the drink up for the camera and then taking a sip, that's usually what people sponsored by monster do, and its also on his jersey.

[@yosarion420]

he's just european.... he is a guy though

[@twerkdatass5626]

tizz mcgizz He isnt european dumbass. he lives in NC.

[@BalboaBaggins]

I don't know why people drink that piss.

[@limepawz]

I will never understand how people think it's necessary to overblow matches and call matches like this Leffen getting "rekt" by PPMD. Yes, he lost. But he lost 3-2. He put up a great fight and almost won even, last game last stock. It was a *great* match from *both* players. (And before I get responses about Leffen's trashtalk, I'm just talking about the match.)

[@LongfellowLP]

Every game was last stock too. This was a brilliant set.

[@treehann]

You're very right. The fact that it was so close is why this is my favorite set from Apex 2015.

[@davjags]

The reason Leffen gets "rekt" to most people (including myself) is because Leffen plays the "textbook" fox. Nothing crazy when It comes to combo's, just up airs, up smashes and just simple stuff. Not to say what he does is easy, but what he does is safe, and won't cause SDs or drop kills for overextending. But the other players combo him and it makes the other player look more stylish and fun. That's why people say he gets wrecked, because they see him get comboed like crazy, but he doesn't really do it back

[@treehann]

***** good point. I think Leffen's fox is interesting to watch, but for different reasons than other foxes. His style is pretty brutal and efficient and doesn't rely on crazy lead-ins like you said. It can be more entertaining to see a fox like Hax or Armada juggle him around than vice versa.

[@davjags]

U can see mango play against a Marth and do more interesting (and personally more entertaining) stuff. Leffen also goes for the "safe" and "correct" DI, and because top players know what that DI is, they do some crazy stuff against Leffen. Watch m2k vs Leffen at TBH4 or Paragon, he actually reads his DI into some crazy stuff, while Leffen just goes for run up upsmash or up throw up airs. It's just that Leffen doesn't try to style on you, he just tries to beat you by any means necessary.

[@kaufmanbob]

Just watch PPMD's marth move at 10:19 So damn fast

[@BlueCrystal004]

GxxJ It was pretty baller.

[@BlueCrystal004]

***** no

[@kaufmanbob]

Doesn't change PP's ungodly movement speed.

[@PercyFowl]

+Mackelroy McJohnstonson It was an edgehog. If PPMD had not grabbed edge, Leffen would have sweet-spotted the ledge because you can snap to ledge after illusion ends(unless you shorten).

[@BlueCrystal004]

Mackelroy McJohnstonson Noticed this too, but they still have a reason to freak out. It didn't win him the game, but it was a great play.

[@kenzieaponte7022]

I didn't know my dad was in the room with me while I was watching this and he basically heard me go, "PP, PP, PP, PP, PP, PP, PP" for 20 minutes.

[@asdlkjhgf45]

Anyone notice how PPMD's combos are so smooth and fast when using Marth compared to other players who plays him so mechanically. :O mah fave player

[@EighteenStudio]

1:19 you can see PPMD plan his next combo.

[@MrKing_MC]

3:08 All this years later, and this is still one of the dirtiest Marth dairs ever.

[@aoflex]

Nasty af

[@electromagneticlemon]

Iconic

[@chrischan2555]

I am convinced that this is THE greatest set of all time.

[@theblackgamer8103]

naw

[@kingphantomtv2425]

Hax vs westballz super neoblous imo best set

[@seanplaysmusic]

Yeah that set was absolutely nuts.

[@davezarairl]

Maybe but moast 3 was the best

[@Fieryvortex48]

Doc kid, lol. Considering the story line, stakes, and quality of play at this tournament, this is arguably the greatest set of all time.

[@TerperMerper]

I watch this like every 3 weeks.

[@pokemonshowdown45]

Same..... I can't get over how graceful PPMD's Marth looks in this tournament. I really hope he comes back to melee. he is my favorite player and I want my Marth to be like his one day

[@karmi8049]

Again ?

[@master_productions]

I've watched this set so many times

[@r41k0n5]

10:31 Never thought I'd hear a crowd chant "pp, pp, pp!"

[@MATTierial]

When it looked like two Swedes would come to the top and take the melee throne. A lone American from the south would come back from an early retirement to defend his nations honor. No one believed in him. But, silently he and his Marth would climb through the ranks defeating everyone in his path on his way back to the top. That man was PPMD, the tournament was APEX 2015. The movie writes itself. We miss you PP, and fondly remember the moments where you, with your unique style, were the best in the world!

[@redlipstickbible2383]

this is probably one of my top 5 favorite sets i've ever watched in melee, period. amazing play from both players. i really do aspire for my fox to have the mobility of leffen's one day; it's always incredible to watch him play when he's really on. ppmd played fantastically, though, so props to him. can't wait to see more of his marth (and hopefully his falco) later this year

[@fountane]

3:48 PPMD's reaction lol.

[@firelifeblizzard8782]

Wow, what a great set to watch without volume!

[@07XJuvi]

5 years later...

[@abcdefzhij]

Dang, PPMD is drawing in more viewers than mango vs hax from tbh4 (which is a set that started a well-known smash meme).

[@abelteller2409]

10:20 look closely, leffen just misses the edge.

[@dawudrahman4779]

Abel Teller yeah I noticed that too. And even though it's not an edge hog I think it's in a lot of "ramen noodle" videos as well.

[@jasonfencer5433]

Leffen was actually extremely close to winning

[@mattsealjr92]

At 18:57 we have a splice that results in Toph saying "Sweden vs. the U-now." Glitch in the recording? A very poor attempt to censor?

[@dahuterschuter]

This was the greatest tourney of all time.

[@osmiridium]

10:25 - Shoutout to that drawing of Marth sipping a goblet of wine while Fox facepalms

[@David-pw9es]

Most watched melee set on KZbin, also my favorite set of all time. We miss you pp

[@MeowgiMan]

I love when KZbin reccomends me classic sets

[@jtrtx]

shoutout to Toph on the solo commentary. very talented

[@evadekiryu5060]

Yeah

[@Zion122]

Don't do D1 like that.

[@jtrtx]

​@@Zion122he did himself like that, fym

[@Zion122]

@@jtrtx The allegations were proven false, so it's not his fault he's being treated like this.

[@AceXtreme95]

What a time this was 4 years ago. Our 5 Gods were active, Leffen was on the come up, villian (Leffen) vs Gods storyline, it was a great time.

[@Edddy_S]

I wonder if casual players come to videos like this and can visually see that the game is being played much faster than what they're used to.

[@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu]

Yes when I first started these guys look in human to me 😂 , I remember not knowing what wave dashing was.. Lol

[@samuelvibritannia4831]

This was some of the most advanced neutral game ever.

[@MikersGamingVideos]

Every changed when the PP nation attacked...

[@roshipower]

PP is the king, many forgot about him but I had confidence he was without a doubt a big favorite. I had it between him, Armada, and Mango, leaning more to Armada, but no doubt PP winning is no surprise

[@BLACKDISC]

10:35 (the guy on the left) When the Jehovah Witness comes knocking on your door

[@Astrellin]

Lmao fucking dead

[@stevepisano5566]

holy shit lol

[@stuna210]

18:23 Leffen: fuk mi dad-e PPMD: Just the tip baby

[@aznc0ffe388]

this marth is so calculated

[@ExilixE]

apex was probably the most hype major this year

[@JavBarcaCoppiSol8]

3:04 THAT SCREAM I CANT LMFAOOO

[@Hyperion856]

I come back to watch the set that got me into melee often.

[@Cronposh]

*"Peepee's up on game five"* Well, mine definitely was

[@nikolauswilliams3124]

I miss ppmd so much i wanna cry :'( more than that tho, his presence really completed tourneys like this. I sorely miss these super hype tournaments and sets

[@ErikSnus-h6l]

This era of melee was so much fun to watch.

[@PsychSaenz]

it's funny how PPMD drinks energy drinks and Leffen just drinks water.

[@noob616]

Think its actually just a Monster water bottle

[@haidara2864]

Time flies like an arrow... I miss PPMD.

[@allankerr9984]

This is AMAZING, I've played this since it's been out and poured years of work into this. Fox and Marth are my Favourite characters so it's pretty kool watching people using them on this level. #INTENSE

[@monkey8554]

Weird that toph had to do commentary alone this set but whatever

[@SMMyers]

Ha ha ha good joke clown

[@castrokobe24]

I always catch myself disagreeing with just about everything Toph has to say.

[@zachariahjose5622]

He's annoying as hell but waaaay better than 97% of the commentators

[@Nit0WasTaken]

I love PPMD's reaction when he loses a stock. It gets me every time.

[@HidenLotus-]

3:48 wait for PP's Face xD

[@YamadaDesigns]

this game is insane, i'd love to see a game sorta like melee in terms of speed but with sm4sh's smoothness and character roster and balance. I'd kill for that.

[@symes_exe]

Adam Kelly The only real advantage sm4sh has is roster imo, as the meta develops it will probably become less and less balanced, or everyone will get nerfed bcuz that's what Sakurai does. sm4sh does have more viable characters than melee right now, but it also has twice as many characters so it would be a joke if it had less viable characters.

[@YamadaDesigns]

I think it'd be cool to go the Pokemon route in the competitive scene with tiers within the skill-based tourney so more characters get playtime.

[@symes_exe]

There used to be low tier tourneys, ppl just don't do them as much nowadays I guess

[@LabRedstone]

Ever heard of Project M?

[@YamadaDesigns]

nah.

[@braddddddddddddddddd]

I love at 3:50 when pp does that deep-thinking pose with his hand on his chin hahaha

[@JB-wi1ym]

OGs know this is debatably the best set of melee ever played.

[@andrewwager8527]

coming back and watching these sets reminds me how close leffen was to being able to win this tournament.

[@simonk5826]

if he didnt flub the short hop at 19:20 he probably coulda ended it.. who know though

[@andrewwager8527]

I don't think he could've killed off it but it would've been close.

[@simonk5826]

yeah it actually looks like pp shielded so who knows what honestly wouldve happened, thats melee

[@joleee]

I-is this set almost at 1 million views?

[@IIYamiSanII]

Just popped up in my recommend after seeing it only, idk, 5087 or so times

[@appleormac]

yeah, pretty crazy right

[@jericosha2842]

This set makes me gasp every time I view it. It's a real butt clencher.

[@juannaym8488]

4 years ago, one of the greatest sets ever was played

[@ssonicdeafmonkey]

I love how PP always turns into a madman on his last stock.

[@Pan_Z]

10:27 An artist named Unsomnus made a wonderful drawing of this moment with Marth & Fox.

[@MeesterTweester]

This is only one out of three Leffen vs. PPMD sets on KZbin I could find

[@SoulAnimeMusic11]

I had faith that PPMD would take this Apex since the beginning. I was not disappointed. PPMD Kreygasm

[@Jigglypoof]

Came here after reading the manga source material. Pretty good OVA.

[@Baku69895]

"Mew2King esque" Uhhh no. Mew2King got bodied. That's ppmd esque. M2ks marth is outdated.

[@IAmASheepEnjoyer]

m2k isnt outdated this was the first tourney he ever lost to leffen at.

[@jasonr8109]

Yes, because beating somebody once while they were sick while that person has beat you like 5-8 times totally means that you're automatically better.

[@Dunsparsley]

"Mew2King esque" refers to M2K's overall Marth performance, not just the tournament they're at. The commentators were talking about a style of play, not tournament placings. PPMD was doing things with Marth commonly seen done by M2K, hence using "esque."

[@jasonr8109]

Dunsparsley Bitch ass. Both players suck shit.

[@Dunsparsley]

All I was doing was analyzing and correct what he said. I never made any statements about either player's skill. Why are you confronting me as if I'd insulted someone?

[@Swagner17]

Can’t tell you how much I love watching Leffen lose

[@dahuterschuter]

This was the greatest Melee tournament of all time.

[@k14pc]

this is still one of the best sets of all time

[@FourthyThe2nd]

PPMD has the best reactions to watch in this game.

[@mynameisrandy]

Every time I watch a set where PPMD played really well, I am amazed that he ever lost to anyone. So talented in so many facets of the game.

[@EvilApple567]

Another victory robbed by that fuckin windmill. Never thought I'd be saying this outside of his Visa issues, but poor Leffen...

[@matthew-3437]

I lie awake at night wishing this had gone different

[@LongfellowLP]

At MLG, Leffen took advantage of PPMD's bad punishes on no-tech, including in the famous 4-stock. PPMD definitely stepped it up. I really enjoyed this very close and high quality set!

[@TheThrillhouse0]

This is probably the 6th time I've watched this set. Just so good

[@juicy_578]

Amazing set Melee is sick

[@Inosculated]

Lol IF I was a top player or a know player and a commentator said "NAME are you watching" I'd comment "Yes, yes I am"

[@blahquinnyblah]

There is just something about PPMD that's so different than the others. He plays so cleanly. Also 10:18 at 0.25 What PPMD pulled was DISGUSTING! Leffen's reaction too is priceless.

[@seb2k00]

I still go back to watch this amazing set

[@bigpetepete]

at 10:20 if you pause and slow it down you see that PP didn't ledge hog leffen, leffen just missed the sweet spot

[@SK8PUNKxP]

It's obvious who PPMD would main in Smash 4 with all that deep breathing. Boosted his launch power and no one even knew. Such a good set.

[@mattmadonna9136]

Who’s here after Metagame?

[@MINISWISS1]

The screams get me every time at 3:00

[@OscarMtz88]

this is the greatest set of all time

[@nonsugarnoki]

Why does toph always sound like his nose is clogged

[@Frabjous1]

That's just the way the poor fellow's nasal cavity is shaped!

[@somekindofnice3871]

nonsugarnoki cocaine, just look at how they were acting.