Apex 2015 - Armada (Fox) Vs. Leffen (Fox) - Losers Finals - SSBM

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[@matrixxART]

12:05 omg I rolf'd so hard seeing that giant orange juice for the first time.

[@allotheabove123]

Armada's Fox is INSANE

[@UchihaMadaraa]

allotheabove123 PPMD'S Falco is a beast.

[@shaknownechrono1630]

I just love how they always have all these large amounts of drinks at their disposal.

[@NegaPanda64]

Armada is one of the only Foxes I actually enjoy watching, and he caught up at an extremely fast rate with the other top players in terms of the Fox metagame. Creative movement is what I notice with him. Doesn't seem to have many habits, either. Truly, an all-around amazing player.

[@jamescooper6437]

NegaPanda64 He is The Punisher with that Fox.

[@justinannanmanthodo5010]

James Cooper lol I just imagine his red fox with a chaingun and a while disposal of guns around him.

[@blues03]

You'd think Minute Maid would be sponsoring Armada by now.

[@Izquierda]

Rewatching this in 2019, it's crazy how as good as this set still is can feel a lot slow after how these two were playing the ditto in 2018. I'm already missing their sets.

[@bluepeacemaker]

Armada will be missed

[@katiieeardley]

Maybe Leffen can instil so much Smash Ultimate hate within Armada that he revives him, and brings him back to melee.

[@ralphbarnes9335]

The 2015-2016 period of Armada dominance was awesome. Sad he's gone. But only two of the Gods are still playing and mango talks about how tough it is.

[@depolarization]

This match is the hypest shit and you know it.

[@Fieryvortex48]

depolarization It was hype. Until Armada easily swept game 4, lol.

[@TylerC_]

Peach mains must be concerned that their Savior is drifting :-/

[@BrickNGames]

Chunskuru lol

[@Gonbebe]

I don't even follow Smash, but Leffen's charisma got me interested in watching it. Makes things more fun when there's a guy everyone roots against i.e. a heel persona.

[@SourClout]

Yea exactly, Leffen's personality gave the smash community something original that no other basic boring person could offer. You'll notice a lot of bandwagon hate towards him.

[@1000g2g3g4g800999]

re4jlsk2 There's bandwagon hate, and then people who actually used Smashboards before leffen got banned.

[@jasonr8109]

re4jlsk2 He didn't add anything original. Leffen just hopped on the bandwagon with Fox.

[@Smashfan258]

This is Armada saying "look kid you play a good Fox, let me show you a better one" very good game despite not seeing Armada play Peach which I personally love to see :)

[@brandonvestra]

4:46 Falco's side B

[@skorcampbell2539]

Brandon Kabamba nah Arm hit with a falling Nair. He made a mistake

[@stephanbieringer2295]

@@skorcampbell2539 wow

[@johnnyvu0945]

5:07 armada shine clanks with leffen's utilt, armada punishing with full jump falling upair into 4 more uairs insane insane reaction time thats some 20xx shit

[@AegisREDflector]

I love that Armada can main Peach, say it's not working for him, switch to Fox, beat the guy who's always mained Fox, 3-1.

[@ElTioTotis]

>implying armada never played fox before, i mean he has been on the elite scene for like 6 years

[@AegisREDflector]

Like I said, "Beat the guy who's always mained Fox." I never said Armada never used him, he just never mained him.

[@RedHairdo]

ElTioTotis Yup. Plus, wasn't Chillin even longer? So what do you have to say now? P.S.: Beware. Because you may say something that applies to Leffen without you knowing it. Leffen, no matter how long, will always be worse than Armada. Get used to it.

[@AegisREDflector]

RedHairdo Wow, someone's feeling snarky. I know Armada's better than Leffen, but Armada has played as Peach and has lost against Leffen, so Armada switching to Fox and beating Leffen, (someone capable of beating Armada's Peach,) with Fox is boss. That's all I meant, no need to get so ginger on me. And come on, Chillin's past his prime.

[@AegisREDflector]

Didn't know, that's really interesting.

[@Trance_Kitsune]

I didn't even have to say "One more stock Armada!" he already knew this set was FREE.

[@mia_bobia_]

I think leffen is a great player to watch and he adds some spice to the smash community. People take his online personality way too seriously.

[@Fayt540]

implying the legends aren't good enough anymore. go to bed, child. It's past your bedtime.

[@mia_bobia_]

Firion Salamand I just said Leffen was good.

[@HZ_LionsDen]

Firion Salamand Lol, he didn't imply anything about anyone else. He was speaking strictly about Leffen.

[@Nawwll]

It isn't an "online" personality when you are sitting there literally laughing in someone's face smugly as you take a stock.

[@Vargas3499]

Leffen plays good but he is literally the epitome of bad sportsmanship in the smash community. I don't care how good someone is, if they are acting smug and disrespectful when they're winning and then be upset as hell; throwing controllers, stomping their feet, and pouting, when they finally get their butt whooped then you do not deserve to win at all.

[@endangeredoddities]

The pure salt at the end from Leffen. It's delicious.

[@katiieeardley]

Easy to see how far mentality can take you, in addition to skill of course. Leffen's taking these losses so hard, he's looking more and more upset with his play as the set goes on and it shows :(

[@jonpowers7070]

This was the golden era of melee. Rip.

[@JerrafurOscar]

"The phantom hit jab... what if?" "No one will ever know." We will soon have the power to find out when the 20xx Tournament Edition is released!

[@Fayt540]

Armada is a respectable player. Leffen is a toxic villain. It's always nice to see good triumph over evil.

[@limepawz]

Tell me how he's been "toxic" as you say *lately*?

[@largondischniv8746]

Leffen > Armada

[@DanOfAwsome]

I laugh so hard whenever Leffen fanboys come to his rescue. How dare you insult their god!

[@TheMitcher]

Dan Cosme Three of those Leffen "fanboys" came to his defense coolly and respectably. Don't see what's to laugh at.

[@limepawz]

Dan Cosme I asked a question to prove a point. That makes me both a fanboy and think Leffen is a God *because*? It's possible I could just respect the guy.

[@nap-nezumi]

Armada being so good with peach apparently transfers over. His movement is still gorgeous even with another character. I love you armada

[@thechap6205]

that shine turnaround back air by armada in game 2 was so cool.

[@rayroberts8254]

In that last match, every stock Leffen lost, he would think of the cupcakes he has at home. "Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[@neogalactic1195]

Leffen has a toxic presence in competitive Melee play as ZeRo said, good to see someone take him down a peg; albeit he is still one of the best Melee players currently.

[@Fayt540]

"currently" we have our legends, our smash gods in their time. leffen is just a toxic addition to the smash community and it is sad to see someone with talent act so smug rather than play as equals.

[@xaviercomas2424]

Every match that amarda and leffen have, amarda always body's him

[@Oakwin_mb]

xavier comas not beast 5.

[@tknick90]

xavier comas Not at all, Leffen has beaten Armada a bunch of times.

[@xaviercomas2424]

tknick90​ exaggeration man...

[@Thorbert888]

The whole thing with chillin made me really not like Leffen. I didn't care about anything he had done up until that point, but once he plays chillin and treats him like he's just another scrub, he's a dick. I know that Leffen is better than chillin there's no doubt. But that doesn't give him any reason to disrespect someone that's been in the smash scene since day 1. Armada and PP both beat Leffen without laughing and treating him like he sucks, but I wish they had.

[@Chosenfury]

dude maybe because chillin disrespected leffen with that video ?

[@Thorbert888]

Luis Montes After Leffen called out chillen's sponsor and team and said him being a choice was terrible

[@darklinre]

Kame Rob Still a full (weak) rap video dissing him and his abilities, and apparently he was a bad choice. lel But still, Leffen can get there, he's going to have a really hard time though.

[@Thorbert888]

Gavn Mehro Like I said, Leffen is definitely better. But the initial disrespect and him laughing while they played just wasn't necessary.

[@darklinre]

Kame Rob We're talking about Leffen.

[@limepawz]

It's so horrible to see Leffen miss so many ledge guards this time around. Last time fighting Armada he wasted *no* time covering every possible corner he could, and this time it just seemed so... Lack luster. GG Armada, hope leffen comes back around next time

[@creature225]

I don't. Tried liking Leffen but the guy calls everyone out. Honestly, can't even like him as a player at this point.

[@creature225]

***** LOL If you haven't noticed by this point in your life its kind of asinine to call people out through a large following of social media for no reason at all. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't so vulgar in doing so, or MAYBE if the people he's been calling out weren't actually nice people. After a day of being a "god" he managed to call out both Hungrybox and M2K for dropping off in tournies, and even went on a series of insults toward Hbox, claiming he was a superior player. And don't give me the "oh he's just playing the villian act" bullshit. He has a spiteful, toxic, trashy personality, which completely outshines any of the nice things we've seen him do or say. Also, yeah, i actually do think everyone should be polite to each other? What would be wrong with that? When your opinions go against everyone else's just for the sake of having a reason to be an asshole to others, it's hard to find likable qualities in you.

[@creature225]

*****. I haven't made anything up about him, as a matter of fact i have proof to back up everything im saying, hell, leffen's twitter basically shits proof. Regardless of any evidence you THINK leffen has regarding the M2K/Hbox/Chillin trash talk. It doesn't make his toxic comments any more necessary. Leffen is ALWAYS the instigator in these situations, and that's why i have a problem with him. Just because you can make an observation, doesn't mean you have to write it out on a social network where you have a large following that will not only agree with you but FIGHT for you as well. Notice how most (if not all) of the other gods are very responsible when it comes to situations like this. They realize they're the figure heads of Smash and that there is no reason for immature, senseless trash talk. Call it whatever you want, but those "observations" are spiteful and rude and i'm bewildered as to how you can even claim he's not intentionally being mean and aggressive. As for the whole 'You can't be polite to everyone thing" your argument contradicts itself entirely. You spent 2 paragraphs justifying why Leffen acts aggressively, and then go on to say that people constantly seeking conflict are to blame.... LEFFEN IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE!!! How can you SERIOUSLY not realize this while typing that sentence? Leffen HUNTS for conflict all of the time, and calls people out constantly. He is one of the people who you claim are the reason everyone can't be polite to each other. He's not standing up for himself, and nobody is walking all over him, he's truly just going out of his way to insult others in the community. I can "merely observe" that you're clearly an opinionated fanboy, but i wouldn't go talking trash about it on twitter just because i have a large following to manipulate and rant to.

[@creature225]

***** At what point did my argument stray from Leffen? Just because you've run out of arguments doesn't mean you have to falsely invalidate mine. Lol, are you telling me that between hbox, m2k, and ALL of team liquid(about 6 people), that's not enough to justify my claims? Lmao a major player should openly have that many public arguments for no apparent reason?? Leffen called out team liquid, which INCLUDES chillin, and Chillin stood up for himself. (like you said, you can't just let people walk all over you, right?) He was clearly salty about not being sponsored due to his vulgar personality, and decided to trash talk those were more successful then him. Give me ONE good reason as to why it was okay for Leffen to point this out and MAYBE I'll consider your point of view. Leffen IS a conflict seeker in that he's provokes others by passive-aggressively harassing them. I don't think you have to be FRIENDS with everyone, by the way. But being courteous/polite is entirely different. As a matter of fact, it's so fucking easy to do so, that by not showing any respect you're truly displaying how much of a dick you are. It's clear after this brief discussion with you that you share the same toxic opinions as Leffen and therefore changing your mind is futile. I have no interest in speaking any further unless you have something of importance to say.

[@johnnycage2323]

*****"There are people in everyone's life who seek conflict. We can either stand up for ourselves or let those people walk all over us. I for one choose the latter." I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but I figured I'd point out that by using "latter" the way you used it, it means that you'd rather have people walk all over you. Choosing the "former" would be standing up for ourselves lol. Former and latter are used chronologically, and refer to two phrases in particular order, former being the first, and latter being the second or last. I must leave now, other comment sections need me!! *whoosh*

[@Exalted-Beleth]

Im a little sad to see Armada starting to use fox he's always been a Peach main...I hope he doesn't give her up for good. :'( I always had mad respect for this guy as a peach main myself.

[@justinsane3507]

This was basically watching one Fox try mostly up smashes, and the other Fox doing actual work for the kills. Can you guess which one was which?

[@ChaddMellow]

12:08 That oj though

[@nkskrb7195]

Armada playing fox better than chillin , leffen dis track

[@chadwicksolo.5512]

chill

[@kakamaru5]

Armada hands down has the best falling up-air I have ever seen. I love when he does it.

[@saltyrocks123]

So...it's like: Leffrieza Krillindude Mang0ku Goharmada TrunksMD?

[@NeilK994]

Leffen still has a better Fox than Armada from a technical standpoint. I just think he's not good at the fox Ditto, akin to Mango

[@Fieryvortex48]

croak x I personally think Leffen has better technical skill but Armada's punish game is just so crisp.

[@YacubCubby13579ZR]

Armada is not a technical Fox at all, he's just good at the ditto; he knows how Fox approaches since by playing Peach, he has to be very methodical on forcing a hand on where his opponent can hit him.

[@ThePlaceWhereWeGo]

***** maybe, but those deep shine spikes are not easy. and he had incredible pressure on leffen's fox to the point where Leffen wasnt the one approaching anymore and Armada still took him to town. Plus the whole whooping on Mang0's falco [sure mang0 might not be uptoscratch on falco anymore, but that doesnt mean much when you're talking about Mang0]. His fox is definitely up to scratch.

[@UGSArmada]

***** Beat Mangos Falco Beat Hbox Puff Take a set from PPMDs Marth Just good at the ditto..... does not matter if it's better than any Fox, excluding Mango, have done in 7+ years basically.

[@vanishing_girl]

***** are you kidding me? Armada's shield drops are way better, his movement is way crisper, he's doing double shines out of shield, and his chain grabs are way better. Armada's tech is wayy better than Leffen's. It looks to me like Leffen has a better understanding of the ditto but Armada's pressure is just so relentless that he can't get any room to breathe.

[@KlNGMAKER]

How to play the Fox ditto: SHINESHINESHINESHINESHINESHINESHINESHINESHINESHINESHINE

[@sp1nda]

At tournament, I always root for someone to beat Leffen. In real life, I'd shake his hand. I hate how he does so well at first, then he just ends up doing pathetically bad toward the end.

[@greyshadowori]

I guess Peach at the highest level just isn't good enough to beat Fox at near the highest level. Great to see Armada win, but it would have been more hype is it was with peach. His win against Leffen in teams was really hype though.

[@SourClout]

20XX might be true

[@danilom951]

I think he does this because people are figuring out his peach. But honestly I think armada peach beats armada fox

[@jacquesl9972]

danilom951 Armada's Fox honestly is more better. The fact that he was able to take a low tier character and make her look like a high tier character already shows what he's capable of with using a high tier character.

[@barbedwireisgood]

12:01 for the best part. Juice.

[@doberman_hund]

this gameplay looks so slow now! hard to believe this looked like the peak of melee back then

[@WhyIDrum]

He just can't go the distance then. PPMD was probably tired. Probably Armada too but they just play better and can handle the fatigue which is why they were in grand finals.

[@raphbell]

Leffen is Fox irl : he's small, cocky, fast, focused, proud, etc

[@101FIRE101]

Are you calling him a furry?

[@DeepSolid43]

I see him more like an immature crybaby

[@powerfulgoku]

it's not listed as [A]rmada in the title and that pisses me off but then i realized it had to be that way for people to find it

[@kaitudhope9122]

1:22 can we just appreciate that fucking laser?

[@StarTard8]

Do you guys remember that time Prog took the Swedes to KFC? Armada's making that fried chicken look raw with this set. That tech skill is DELICIOUSLY crispy! My mouth waters watching it!!

[@ThisIsWEB]

LOL

[@YacubCubby13579ZR]

Armada's player manager is a George Forman? That's cool. Just curious, though: do all eSports teams have a player manager? Or is it team specific or something?

[@blahquinnyblah]

Why was the way he said "Good DI" so sexy sounding? 4:20

[@lolm2corybaxter326]

"Leffen's turn to tack on the damage" Leffen gives Armada 69%

[@Mashukoria]

I think Leffen got kind of worn out and sick towards the end. He started sharp and hot with the hype of shredding Chillin, but at the end of it all it was the players who didn't overhype and spread themselves too thin (Armada, PPMD etc.)

[@DanOfAwsome]

Armada definitely has the best fox.

[@eveningninja9824]

Lol, totally makes sense that Armada would bust out OJ haha. He seems like the kind of guy that would enjoy some humble down-to-earth juices.

[@CoconutJewce]

Leffen definitely needs to work on his Side-B/shortens. He messed a couple up during the T8 sets.

[@LeRuseBird]

How long had Armada been playing Fox again?

[@mattlamar]

Like a few months before APEX and paragon I think

[@josgwio1245]

***** VERY long. He just doesn't pull him out at tournies.

[@MatteusTheGreat42]

since genesis grand finals set 2 vs mango in 2009

[@neobahumut707]

Didn't even know Armada used Fox. Schooled XD

[@byungshin8773]

Idk why that huge minute maid jug of oj is so funny

[@dgiles920]

try turning on the subtitles

[@mrtaxwell8099]

I dont care for Leffen, however i will say, that im glad to see Europe really showing up on Apex, im all about USA dont get me wrong, i just feel like its another step to expanding this community.

[@IamFearLezz]

*Sweden.

[@TeddyRodriguez818]

Lol Armada was like "Leffen! Go Home!!"

[@ExilixE]

Armada's fox playin like the best Fox out there! I don't wanna say it but I feel like it has potential to be better than Mango's Fox, if not already better.

[@SourClout]

All these people just bandwagon hate on Leffen tbh did he do anything to you???

[@t-mofisher8922]

Ppl in the comments don't seem to realize that Leffen gives no fucks about what you say about him unless you are actually on his level. And yes, I'm a Leffen fanboy. Come at me.

[@Harctor]

Armada is INSANE

[@user-ty5fp7vx1u]

That jug of OJ tho

[@GrewS2L1]

5:50 Armada had 3 - 0 on leffen so bad with a single shine on that fire fox....

[@Madbutcher305]

How times change, huh?

[@joehaines3619]

noticed every time armada takes or loses a stock he pushes his glasses back

[@Prefesuersheen]

Because hes probably so sweaty they slowly slide off. Whenever he takes a stock or loses one, he gets some time to slide them back on

[@katiieeardley]

it indicates that he's about to go full anime

[@ZineTurduken]

He's drinking oj cuz there's not swedish water there.

[@helloaxi8745]

Smell ya later, Leffen.

[@SalDOWN]

20XX

[@johnhurley8918]

The Battle of the Swede's

[@sh0shin]

"shine out of shields"??? shines out of shield. come on.

[@4stringedninja]

It is kinda shitty seeing Armada play fox instead of Peach.... Though it´s nice seeing him beat leffen up

[@agustinquindimil6594]

armada has no emotions

[@ArtanisOwns]

buggy audio

[@krakrs]

Leffen had way too many johns

[@CrayonsAreTastey]

I really wanted to see a win from armada that 2nd round i just thought he was killin shit too badly :0!!

[@peachcap3515]

the orange juice

[@PooCrizzap]

Armada is so good

[@JoelLinus]

Armada is on ritalin

[@jimniexperience3591]

Armada's Fox Is *DISGUSTING!!!!!*

[@dishierwand]

totoro

[@Cesar999_]

Lmao

[@ShirakoriMio]

Lol rekt hard

[@SundriedSage]

12:15 Omg I never knew Armada had a girlfriend!

[@atmaillumina]

+Hamad Althani Umm.. looks to me like his sponsors

[@SundriedSage]

***** why did she hug him?

[@atmaillumina]

+Hamad Althani People usually do that to show their happiness and support.

[@SundriedSage]

***** oh

[@MetagrossOverlordX]

+Hamad Althani Armada has a girlfriend in Sweden iirc