VI. Flood - An Analysis of Schubert's Song Wasserflut from his cycle Winterreise

In this video I analyze the sixth song in Schubert’s Winterreise, Wasserflute. Also included is a discussion of historically informed performance practice regarding rhythmic interpretation.
The recording is Jan Van Elsacker, tenor -Tom Beghin, fortepiano
It is a period instrument recording - for a full playlist of that recording go here
• F. Schubert: Winterreise
You can find the recording of Gerald Moore and Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau here
• Schubert: Winterreise ...
Thumbnail image is the autographed manuscript page of each song discussed available here: imslp.org/wiki/Winterreise,_D...)
Sources
-The Cambridge Companion to Schubert's Winterreise
Edited by Marjorie W. Hirsch and Lisa Feurzeig
-Retracing a Winter's Journey: Schubert's Winterreise
By Susan Youens
Schubert’s Winter Journey: Anatomy of an Obsession
By Ian Bostridge
Tom Beghin on recording and performing Winterreise
winterreise.online/tom-beghin...
A video documentary by record label Evil Penguin discussing the recording
• Documentary - Winterre...
Wiener Urtext Edition of Haydn Piano Sonatas vol 1 - Forward by Robert Levin
Wiener Urtext Edition of Schubert’s Piano Sonatas vol 1 - Forward by Martino Trimo
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[@mikesmith7102]

Interesting point about that subtle change of the words. I didn't realised there was a Cambridge Companion to Schubert's ‘Winterreise'.

[@sonatahewrote]

Yeah it’s a good resource. If I could only have one book on the cycle though, it would be Youens’

[@samaritan29]

2:32 one of those pianists is alfred brendel im pretty sure

[@JanCarlComposer]

Hm, I never before heard a version where the triplets and 3/16-1/16 notes are aligned. My musical feeling rebels a bit against it, and it seems the aligning is not correct from the mathematical point of view? Because after the second note of the triplet, a time of 8/48 beats has passed, but 9/48 after the 3/16 note. So the last triplet note must start before the 1/16 note?

[@sonatahewrote]

To align it you would not play the printed rhythm, but rather assume that the composer wrote dotted 8th + 16th as a short hand for the triplet quarter + 8th note. As I say in the video that can be something that’s appropriate in 18th and early 19th century music, and may very well be exactly what the composer is doing. Notation is unfortunately not an exact science.

[@JanCarlComposer]

@@sonatahewrote ok, you seem correct, and I now found some performances where the rhythms are aligned. It still does not feel convincing, but this may be due to the fact that I have become so used to the non-aligning-style.

[@sonatahewrote]

​@@JanCarlComposer nbd, as I also say in the video I think it's appropriate to perform it either way