Victims Demand More Resignations After Archbishop Quits Over Abuse Scandal

[@goharikjones7387]

Not only resign !! They should be brought to Justice and serve their TIME !! Absolutely disgusting !!

[@WilliamSmith-mx6ze]

Are you talking about Archbishop Welby? He wasn't involved in any paedophilia, how would he be 'brought to justice'? Why should someone not involved be punished? Is it because you're part of the social media lynch mob that demands vengeance, any vengeance, against anyone, just anyone?

[@chrissie-bn4cv]

Regret! No!! They got caught out!! Shame on them!!

[@stellac1049]

Why hasn't Welby been arrested yet?

[@peterwillson1355]

He's part of the elite. Have a look at his Wikipedia entry.

[@mikeball6182]

Rhetorical question? The powerful and well connected rarely face full justice.

[@denisemarionjames1487]

@@mikeball6182 well Huw Edwards is one example

[@mikeball6182]

@@denisemarionjames1487 He's not that powerful and what exactly has so far happpened to him?

[@simbarashekunedzimwe1372]

Because it is a ring that goes very high up.

[@rod8823]

I'm 64 now and this disgusting abuse (on CHILDREN) by this 'church' has been ALLOWED to go on all my life. It's surely time the government stops turning a blind eye and closes this 'church' down and jail the offenders and those who cover-up the abuse.

[@margaretratcliffe5465]

As a Christian, this is absolutely dismaying.

[@JillGalloway-lg7wh]

Been going on for a long time , how come you didn’t know

[@michaelenglish2066]

IF YOU NO SOMEONE IS ABUSING SOME ONE AND DONT SAY ITS ILLEGAL AND SHOULD BE FAST TRACKED TO PRISON

[@movarvo1217]

Tommy Robinson spoke out and look what they did to him !

[@_pokies]

*know

[@junior2404]

​@@movarvo1217... The fraudster? I'm not sure that using another immoral individual to make your point is wise.

[@sheilacook1645]

These nonces use their " faith" as a smokescreen just as Jimmy Saville did with his charity work-hypocrites all of them 😡

[@ericpeterson9110]

@@movarvo1217 Isnt he the guy that defended some of the nonces in the EDL leadership?

[@alisonberry4769]

This is the type of behaviour that happens when Gods word has been left out of the church .how far has the Church of England fallen.

[@denisemarionjames1487]

Exactly my sentiments

[@mikeball6182]

Really wasn't much better when god's word apparently was still "in the church".

[@jdottdeestv8149]

used to be worse.

[@LetsgetloudUK]

I'm ready to abandon our state. His replacement will be worse. They're all globalist wokist who have fallen short. We need valid leadership, exile to politics.

[@LetsgetloudUK]

​@@mikeball6182 our laws are based on the Christian faith. The church is drowning in globalism. The king defender of all faith. Christianity needs defending against the anti christ. How could a christian king defend a book that calls for our destruction? Along with the demise of Jews?

[@gilliansmiler3629]

Sadly for these children failed

[@cynthiagittins2413]

Regret is not enough

[@MJ-tg7wv]

There is a duty of care regarding safeguarding. This needs investigating and rigorous enforcement to ensure an example is set. Huw Edwards got away with it pleading personal shame. Personal shame of the Archbishop of Canterbury - it is shame of being caught out. He had no shame beforehand and was prepared to parade in his robes and Crown the King and take his Honour from the King whilst under a cloud of shame? I do not think so. And another man in priest's robes saying he is proud of him for resigning??? That is outrageous. He would not have resigned if he had not been found out The man is shameless and silence and inaction makes you complicit. Where is the empathy and concern for the victims????? No mention of them

[@gemmag.2988]

Totally agree with you. A close relation is a member of the Establishment and is a morally good individual. I am starting to wonder if he is the exception.

[@denisemarionjames1487]

@@MJ-tg7wv I agree with you especially when this other person said he was proud of him resigning…well he wouldn’t have resigned for the simple reason he was pushed to leave the synod another hypocritical organisation…I am quite angry with the lot of them…by the way I’m a member of the Welsh Anglican Church. I also cannot stand the rot that has infested the church! Don’t start me off about Huw Edwards I’m at boiling point with him!

[@ot8479]

Except for all religious groups and politics where these monsters are protected

[@anilasharma2371]

They should all serve time for crimes committed.

[@oliviapaul8885]

This vile creature needs to be charged , locked up

[@NickNick-tp5cr]

There will never be trust because Welby isn't the only one involved. Any number of clergy and admin will have known since 1981. They all need to go.

[@karengyllewiggins9842]

What about all the clergy who could have been around in the 1970's and 1980''s and in South Africa . They should be rooted out and exposed... Archbishop Tutu??

[@gemmag.2988]

Agree. I will be very upset however if Desmond Tutu was complicit in the cover up but justice must be done.

[@hansdeleeuw4431]

Archbishop may have known about it.

[@jcline147]

Been going on for centuries!

[@christineadam6764]

Welby IMO always looked SHIFTY.

[@MK-cm6xo]

He's a wolf in sheep's clothing, just like the priests he was protecting.

[@NickNick-tp5cr]

He sets my alarm bells off.

[@Jazzdecoratingurgh]

Definitely not babysitting material!!!

[@Jazzdecoratingurgh]

Matthew 7:15 (Bible)

[@susanparkauntiesuze5447]

Weren’t his actions perverting the the course of justice?

[@catherinegrimes2308]

What surprises me, is that the children or the parents didn't go straight to the police.

[@jackiefranklin7126]

The police would be silenced, too, I suspect. This is as big as it gets, so far as cover up’s go

[@Freddie-wumus]

Nobody ever mentions or tries to expose anything about the child abuse covered up the establishment .

[@mick1583]

After watching the movie "Spotlight" there needs to be, as Stazi would say, a forensic examination. How many victims would have been saved this torture if this creep had confessed to the crimes he was hiding.

[@thomasnewton8997]

This is an issue that is well known with the church of England and but I bet it happens in the temple and catholic church and other faiths and the mosque the problem is when theese people become powerful and high up like the bishop of Canterbury they think they are untouchable

[@susanparkauntiesuze5447]

It needs to be investigated if the police were notified; it may not just be a church thing.

[@gemmag.2988]

True. Another cover up in the police is possible.

[@MK-cm6xo]

Considering the Met knew about Al Fayed for decades (and are still currently lying about it) I'm 100% certain that the police were notified and chose to do nothing, as they have done consistently time and time again when these cases are brought to them.

[@susanparkauntiesuze5447]

Reid sounding appalled, but look at the treatment of the person that did more to call out the r-pe gangs by a certain demographic, and she treat him like something that she had brought in on her shoe. These people are total hypocrites.

[@kevinjones3900]

Absolutely correct.

[@julianshepherd2038]

Why do churches get charitable status? Seems to be about impressive buildings, big gold hats and thrones and abuse.

[@tudormiller887]

I'm sure it's the same with mosques, synagogues & temples.

[@perryvalton3296]

Judgement begins at the house of God first

[@mikeball6182]

@@tudormiller887 I don't think he's suggesting that it's not

[@jdottdeestv8149]

@@mikeball6182 He said churches, not places of worship

[@cryptokingz615]

Because it furthers the cause of freemasonry and Zionism.

[@richardkent2200]

All a bunch of weirdos

[@sheenahutchison1190]

Now there I agree living in his palace talking to others about taking refugees in but did nothing himself .

[@danmchugh7106]

They just need to stop fiddling kids really.

[@DotBell-m6t]

But it's not just the church it's in every walk of life don't dispute that this is an inexcusable act but please don't think it is a religious problem only there a pedophiles in every walk of life

[@danmchugh7106]

@ ye but it happens a lot within the church so my statement still stands

[@jillybe1873]

The bishop on the Today programme accidentally said "We must safeguard the church". NO! safeguard THE CHILDREN. the church must be disestablished and reformed

[@eshiestrik2756]

This is the problem!

[@shellys.]

And, why not remove Smythe while investigations were taking place?

[@jillybe1873]

He was removed to Africa😡

[@Rosie-wj1le]

Shades of the Catholic Church. I always felt this could not happen in the Anglican Church. How wrong I have been.

[@yoshiebee555]

this conversation is very balanced and allows my head to wrap around this crazy news. God bless the world.

[@MrPinkStrat]

WELBY 'S yearly Salary was £ 82,000 A Year ... But his Net worth was £ 3 Million !

[@shellys.]

When Welby along with others began to water down and disregard scripture to suit popularity the Institution was then resting on sand vs solid ground. It was only a matter of time before it fell apart. The successor MUST hold firm to the Gospel and only then will the church begin to heal.

[@tudormiller887]

Why is the question regarding the Church Of England being so irrelevant in 2024 still being unanswered ? 🤔

[@ritawing1064]

But Ramsey knew about Peter Ball and no-one remembers.

[@nathantaylor9829]

Looking back his appointment was a strange decision. The only thing he seemed good at was the managed decline of the C of E. The strongest contender at the time John Sentamu the bishop of York would have been the obvious choice: A black man, a natural unifier and a gifted speaker with a passion for evangelism. Was institutional racism a factor?

[@mikeball6182]

I disagree. The best choice would have been Bsp Michael Nazir-Ali. It wasn't racism, it was politics. The C of E is a branch of government. Cameron, Charlie Boy and Kneeler are all WEF members, so expect more of the same.

[@deborahparker1496]

I agree. The former A B of York would have made a great AB of C. A compassionate Christian with great humanity.

[@mr_blue8208]

These Institutions must end. It’s a business and it has nothing to do with helping people. Never has. Never will. Helping 100 people and then abusing and scaring kids for life, only makes you a piece of 💩. Why aren’t any of these people being arrested yet?

[@anilasharma2371]

Appalling conduct from people you put your trust in .

[@JillGalloway-lg7wh]

I wouldn’t trust them if they were whistling .

[@MartinaDowney-ql9rz]

Poor kids😢😢

[@bobhope9646]

Bit hypocritical andrew pierce when you said hue edwards hadnt done wrong, whats the difference between knowing and seeing, both should be imprisoned for the rest of their sick lives

[@markw8353]

Since the church has stood out against historical slavery abuses, it would be willing to extend this to historical abuse victims.... Open up the huge "fund" to include actual victims of historical abuse.

[@Boards-dont-hit-back]

Trump is very popular to most of the people I talk to, just saying.

[@jwest9359]

I thought you needed to be of pure heart to be the Head of the church

[@gemmag.2988]

You should be!

[@mirarim]

Ask The head of the C of E - His majesty The King what does he thinks of all "this matter"

[@allandavies1187]

In the Name of God - Go!

[@eshaibraheem4218]

Rumour has it Linaker will be transferred to Canterbury.

[@gemmag.2988]

And Welby to MOTD - a straight swap.

[@michaelkemp6857]

Don't want Big Ears anywhere near Kent!

[@heedstats]

No the church was informed in 1981

[@user-ii4rj7jy7q]

BBC covered up for Saville and Edward’s ??

[@grahambuckerfield4640]

Tip of the iceberg. Four times Prime Minister Thatcher wanted to give him a knighthood, three times she was warned that while there were no charges against him (he inveigled his way into senior police for years), there were, to use their language, ‘ambiguities’ with him. Steer clear. But no the old bat insisted and he got his knighthood. Worse, her minister Edwina Currie put him in charge of Broadmoor secure mental hospital, he often, to the annoyance of staff, hung around with his mates like serial killer Peter ‘Yorkshire Ripper’ Saville. Next he had an office there! The list goes on, if you grew up in the UK in the 70’s and 80’s half the country thought he was a harmless eccentric who did a lot of work for charity, the other didn’t unless they were victims, know about them except that he gave them the creeps. Victims coming forward? Good luck with that especially back them, he chose them well, often marginalized kids with records for bad behavior and/or in care, who would believe them? Just the BBC? He gaslit a nation. But far easier to blame one organization than take national responsibility. The tabloid press hate the BBC, where were all their investigations into Savile? They did enough going through bins, bribing, phone hacking, often of minor celebrities, never seriously went after Savile though.

[@tinygold772]

If it wasn’t for CH4 there wouldn’t even have been a Maiken Report!!

[@smythharris2635]

I agree but it's the same Ch4 that pulled it's documentary on another religious entity?

[@ZippieHippie]

He didn’t CARE!

[@celticbreeze760]

The Church also needs to get out of politics!!!!

[@mikeball6182]

Cof E can't because it is a branch of the government

[@adrianlunnon3514]

Haven't we heard all this before building trust.....same as the police 🤔 zero trust is justified

[@mishapurser4439]

I also want to know what the Police did after being notified

[@michaelkemp6857]

Had another cuppa tea!

[@donaldpaterson5827]

Justin Welby needs to be charged, taken to court and if found guilty jailed.

[@queenie3388]

I would hope victims speak out from other religious institutions come forward .

[@BrianWMay]

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, justice has been a long time coming for the victims. What a set of scumbags, would they have acted like this if their kids had been affected?

[@susanleach-i3f]

its so sad that Bishops and Nuns have very much been the demise of Christianity in this country with their historic bad behaviour, we used to have morning prayers in every school ,morning Hymns sung , Sunday schools for children, along with church services, every Sunday that many went to, we have lost so much, all for others faiths, so as not to let them feel offended, no matter about us as a christian country, we are struggling, why was our religion not protected , it has become such a bad thing and has even be classed as racist, your not even allowed to talk about it on our streets, we need to demand our beliefs be allowed, bring it back and encouraged it, This IS a christian country and we should feel proud of it and we should be able to openly show it !!!

[@michealhunt6607]

Yeah, and good for you. Some of us don't want our kids to be brainwashed with religious nonsense full stop

[@suemase9886]

where is the royal family, it is their house as head of the church.

[@jillybe1873]

Diddlers

[@mirarim]

absolutely agree, the house is falling apart and they simply don´t care - Beloved Queen Elisabeth the second - luckily not knowing this.

[@iainrae6159]

Shame that God could'nt have included in his commandments, ' Thou shalt not groom, beat, abuse sexually and terrorise children .. nor own slaves or profit from them'. The creator (alledgedly) of the Universe may not be so 'loving' as the believing 'flock' appear to think.

[@peterwillson1355]

Love thou neighbour as thyself. It's all covered.

[@catecullen2521]

They are along with politicians, the most corrupt people on this planet. It's all lies. When Nun Street in Newcastle upon Tyne was dug up to make way for Eldon Square, many years ago, they found countless skeletons of babies. Nun Street( as the name suggests) was the home of a large convent. The only people living there were nuns, and there was another building next to it which was a home for priests. I'll let you be the detective.

[@mikeball6182]

I think the commandments covered all that. These people broke them

[@comfortandjoy9489]

The Ten Commandments are a condensed version, if you read the whole Old Testament other things are covered.

[@isobellickes8543]

Blaming God for what humans do??

[@dinaworkman306]

Go to jail, go directly to jail do not pass go

[@carolwalmsley3362]

Exactly 👍

[@WhataboutTRUTH]

First the truth has to been known and all those that took part in this shameful behaviour and covered it up should be brought to justice. Then perhaps some may return to this church but it's difficult to see why they would. The damage has been done.

[@dafinker3443]

He so called bishop 🥴👎 Welby a mate of m. Markle And 3rd hubby H 😩🥴 has had a great ride for years , never liked him never 🙈 how on earth he conned for so long is ludicrous , wrong and shameful 🤮🤮👎😡😩🥴

[@StreetLifeFoundation]

Stretching aren't you!! Mentioning people who have NOTHING to do with this!! Welby was very close to the King, he's HIS archbishop!!! You are literally undermining the seriousness of this case for the victims.

[@ambertosler8961]

Sounds like a lot of abusive truths that are coming out! Shocking! That they turned the the other cheek! Shame on them! 😕

[@andycooper9048]

Dont forget Bishop John ball

[@andycooper9048]

I mean Bishop Peter ball

[@hardy21ish]

Too close to.the top.figure in the establishment

[@hazelvicary]

Any regrets are for being caught out allowing this evil to go unpunished and the victims being denied any sort of justice.

[@ericlloyd9024]

Two thousand years of service and this is what it has come down to?

[@terencegreenhalgh7914]

this resignation should have come years ago, he is a danger to the church and society, the church should not be involved in politics but he stuck his nose in everything he was a great believer in more and more immigration but would not invite any migrants to stay in lambeth Palace.

[@Jeannettebeswick]

The advise welby received from the police needs to be examined as stated in C4 interview.

[@profnostalgia_UK]

In actual fact, African Americans loved Al Jolson at the time. He was very inclusive and helped promote their music. Hundreds of African Americans lined the streets as a mark of respect on the day of Jolson's funeral.

[@elainemackie1431]

Trump is popular in Scotland - biggest supporters in Western Europe - from STV news site

[@jamesbomd3503]

The reason why the Church of England is so Wealthy is because it owns copious amounts of properties that make the king of England look like a market stall renter

[@gemmag.2988]

Nope. The rf own far more in land and property.

[@jamesbomd3503]

Apologies fraudian slip 🤭 Royal family can't sell their land The Church of England can

[@fpvangel4495]

Same team of liars deceiving the world, click me for the why.

[@mikeball6182]

the king of England is the head of that church

[@bvseediermedia6]

Resignations? How about placing Welby under arrest and subject to a full criminal investigation?

[@Durfel]

there must now be a huge and complete clean up of the CoE, the King, as head of the CoE, should order an independent inquiry and he should sack all of those involved in this terrible coverup!

[@magenta6754]

I agree that Welby should go, but why has Starmer got away with shielding both Saville and the Rotherham gangs? Surely anyone who turns a blind eye and in Starmer's case protected child abusers is not fit to be in a position of power.

[@Jazzdecoratingurgh]

Prosecution of Welby must be considered! So glad Welby has gone! he was a dodgy looking geezer... I may convert to Christianity now as dispised Welby

[@stevecurtis6288]

Criminal charges must be sought or at least looked at for anyone involved or who simply knew.

[@davidthorpe516]

The trust will return after they have thrown out the garbage.

[@chrisknox4346]

Of course others knew about this. You can assume that Smyth had accomplices. Why else was he allowed to die of old age rather than disclose information.

[@erikskalnins895]

..... and this lot wil will continue to sit and vote in the House of Lords 😾😾

[@chalinechurch9808]

More important than resignations and sneaking off quietly, there should be full investigations and all the dodgy dudes, or ladies, feel the full force of the law!

[@magspenfold6571]

Typical. The place to hide!!!!

[@sheenahutchison1190]

It will be a woman next time . Welty was an arrogant show off . Very off putting .

[@outfromtheshadows]

Sounds like the dam is about to burst, and not before time.

[@allykatharvey]

I agree Welby was never inspirational. The Church needs that to recover itself. And great Music which has great outreach.. We need someone to look after this country’s spiritual well-bring and leave the greed of the rest of the world to the charities.

[@kathyatkinson782]

The church of England didnt allow the gospel to be to be preached from the pulpit in case it offended mainly the wealthy and they didn't get large donations the rich still thimk they can pay their to way to heaven attending church every Sunday being pious they need salvation wellby will have to answer to God how he led his flock not preaching God word is a major sin

[@123shrike]

Why hasn't he been charged with perverting the course of justice.

[@JonfitzFitzjohn-k6s]

When Trust has Gone it's Gone Forever

[@barriewatson]

Prehaps the Christian church will change now that Welby has gone but it's not only him the whole church hierarchy is not fit for purpose if you look at the church hierarchy that voted for Welby nearly all are woke activists they have very little to do with Christianity they spend there time with woke politics and things like this is what has gone wrong with the Church of England l have often wondered if these circles have influenced our now King , the only real working Christian, s in our country are the clergy that work with the citizens in the churches and communities around our good land.

[@williamjowett2218]

Probably too busy increasing ties with his Muslim brothers.

[@WilliamSmith-mx6ze]

What do a load of resignations achieve except a vengeful smug victory?

[@denisemarionjames1487]

A very good representation of topics that affects us..

[@VeroT19]

Well, the holy church is also uncovering itself... "What's done in the darkness, will be exposed in the light."

[@gillianbrown8502]

How many more times are the public expected to have faith in these corrupt, abusive institutions.

[@GarethBowes]

He should be going to prison

[@stephenfarthing1522]

I do agree that something could have been done a great deal more quickly! I will not leave the Church of England! But I feel that it can rebound out of this. But I do believe that it can come out of it! We do need to see an orthodox Archbishop of Canterbury! In office! It won't be until February next year! At least! I'm sadly stunned by this! It leaves me in a complicated position. But I still have no choice but to remain in. It certainly makes it more difficult and complicated in my feelings over Church music which I am keen to uphold. I'm too old to leave the Church of England. I have to remain in!

[@trishxxx9362]

The church lost my trust when they profited from that loan fiasco and when they ditched God over political issues

[@jameslennox13]

Catholics never get this level of attention when they commit scandals

[@prideofdurham4776]

When somebody resigns because they KNEW then it follows those RESPONSIBLE must be sacked.

[@donaldpaterson5827]

They should now go to jail.

[@dianekivi5349]

I suffered from abuse and cover up, by Sainsbury's staff and managers!

[@maryandrew1059]

Surely the abuser should have been suspended as soon as the information began to circulate, and not reinstated unless or until an investigation exonerated him.

[@DawnFowle]

Regret for horrendous abuse is only saying because they were found out! Disgusting. Judgement is coming soon

[@johanandgaildros6444]

The Bible says ; the CHURCH must first REPENT !

[@grantdeancommons5390]

There is going to be a judgement seat all will have to give an account of what we did ,deeds of the things done on earth,things done and things spoken ,all will be manifested before God 🙏🏼🙏🏼