"Battle of Narendra III" - Old Version

[@randy95023]

Great Job! I'm 54 yo so I was perfect age to watch original Star Trek when it premiered. Back in the 60's Star Trek was SO FAR AHEAD of its time that many of the serious minded adults just laughed at it or ignored it completely. As a little kid that watched every NASA space mission filled with awe to see Star Trek just fueled my young imagination! When you are 10 years old EVERYTHING seems possible! I'm still addicted to Space Exploration and anything related. Thanks for posting!

[@terrywest111]

I love this! The ships and their lighting are absolutely wonderful. I love the pre-TNG Warbird! Man... I wish this was an actual episode! I also love how faithful you stayed to Captain Garrett's account of the battle. Four warbirds and everything. Great job! Can you give us more?

[@AfonsoBucco]

The shape of those warbirds is even more similar to the real world vehicle called "Bird of Prey", originally, "Oiseau de Proie", which is the French name for the 14-bis, the plane made by Santos-Dumont. Its front elevator, and its rear wings made it seems like a bird of prey, like startrek ones. But the original name is not about any military purposes. It's just about the shape. This plane have flown in Paris in 1906, in front of a crown, and cameras, which made photos and VIDEOS. It started from the ground, lift up by itself, and came back later in entirely in safe conditions, just like now-days replica of this plane.

[@DBro65]

This is still one of my favorite interpretations of that famous battle. On a historical note, the space of time between Kirk & Spock and the adventures of Capt. Picard and the Enterprise D, there was great expansion in the Federation and the entire Beta Quadrant was constantly on the brink of war.

[@SquirrelStampede]

Wow, That was great! Nice work all around. The editing of the various soundtracks was done well too.

[@BOBXFILES2374a]

Great video! That was one of my favorite New Trek episodes. Thanks for all the work!

[@steveriddle313]

Rachel Garrett wasn't a very good captain that's for sure

[@alexthompson5275]

Correct. She should of used photon torpedo's as well

[@lazurusredd8682]

The hell she wasn't >:( her and the crews efforts cemented the treaty between the Federation and the Klingon Empire, plus read the lost era novels that ship under her command for 11 years before Narendra III proves different,

[@n0_XcusZ]

Rachel Garrett was to the Enterprise C what Captain Kathryn Janeway was to Voyager. She was a excellent captain who happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. No Captain would have survived that onslaught even if shields would have been up

[@2W3X4YZ5]

A Captain is only as good or bad as the crew he or she commands.

[@kaktuskopf3214]

She was one of the best that's why she was in command of the flagship

[@theGhoulman]

That was wonderful. I loved your take on starship battles, a cross between the 'jet fighter' battles in warp and the 'naval battleship battle' from ST:WoK. It looked terrific, and the narrative text was compelling. Nice work. :)

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@captjami Yes I've been meaning to re-edit and re-upload this. Most of it will only be scaled up to 720HD but it still looks better. Any new shots I add I'll do in HD so they will stand out!

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@basherman69 Yes but I'm saying at the moment she chose to lower shields, in order to transport down and render aid to the Klingon survivors, that is when the Romulan attacked, having scanned them dropping shields. It would not have been negligent to do this if you thought the attacking ships had left the area. I certainly will take note that in future videos I should put more thought and time into these issues since I want people to fully enjoy the video without nitpicking lol.

[@ACLTony]

Very, very well made! Did a very good job in filling in the gap in the original episode. A lot of work went into this. Thank's for producing and sharing this talented work.

[@slighter]

That is gorgeous!!! Probably one of the best Star Trek Animations out there. One can see the love you put in in this. Thank you!

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@meteorafallen I have posted in HD for a while now, see any of the newer videos. This was rendered out for 480p but I am working on an HD edit.

[@avenuePad]

I just want to say that I have been watching this video, not to mention all your other work, for days now. The Romulan Warbirds look outstanding. The black paint over the green is sick. Oh, and I'm definitely going to watch this in conjunction with "Yesterday's Enterprise". Such a great idea! lol

[@avenuePad]

Very well done! Whatever minor 'mistakes' are besides the point. The Romulan ships looked amazing, as did the Enterprise C. This is a battle everyone has wanted to see, so thank you for making this for the fans! :D

[@dragonknightleader1]

The Plaque at the end is an excellent touch.

[@nerd359]

This actually had a rather good set of background music choices. Too often people who make these kinds of videos don't seem to put the thought into the music that you have. Great job.

[@GtheMVP]

Nice work on the effects! Ship design taste is one thing, quality of work is another, outstanding stuff!

[@MrCharles26]

One of the best made fan videos I have ever seen! Really a amazing job.

[@robinkyrke]

Awesome work! The effects and cg work were all top notch! I especially liked the shot with the dedication plaque, very touching.

[@Marsproject11]

A great video man. Especially at the end with the ships plaque, slowly floating through space, was a very nice touch.

[@kenigan]

Excellent video, I love the detail of the ships and how you re-created the Ent-C/Ent-D meet. I can't want to see the edited version and I look forward to checking out all your videos.

[@Thunderchyld]

This was a wonderful way to do this episode and it's story justice. Well done.

[@BloodSonicFlux]

Im loving how you captured the camera angles from the shows so perfectly.... All I can think of to make it better would be some acting, so that it seems like an actual episode. That would be pretty cool, if you had good actors and sets.

[@xCiDevantx]

This is one of the best fan made films I've seen.

[@KnowTrentTimoy]

Why weren't the shields up and operating at maximum capacity? You are entering an unknown situation and responding to a DISTRESS call of an Attack?

[@Baseshocks]

Assuming they were, Romulan tech rivals Fed tech.

[@KnowTrentTimoy]

Baseshocks Why would we Need to ASSume that? They are responding to a distress call from a Klingon outpost that is being Attacked.... Don't get me wrong but the key word: Attack would automatically make me go to battle stations, shields at maximum... ALL Weapons at ready and FULLY activated. Sensor sweep analysis anyone?? Come on man!!

[@Baseshocks]

Trent Timoy They Rival fed tech meaning they can target the Enterprise warp engines right after decloaking. As we have seen in the series time and time again, warp engines can be disabled even with the shields up.

[@KnowTrentTimoy]

Baseshocks The Enterprise was completely caught off guard to have sustained that much damage during the initial first strike. I would have to assess that as a breach of appropriate protocols when entering a potentially unpredictable situation. If I'm not mistaken, part of battle tactics includes a "first strike" on your opponent to gain a upper hand (the Romulans achieved that). The Enterprise sensors should've anticipated a 'decloaking" ship. This scenario was all set-up for the historical significance it contributed to the stronger ties between the Klingon empire and the Federation. The circumstances that occurred with this Enterprise was meant to be in order to forge the alliance that the Federation and Klingons enjoy today.

[@Baseshocks]

Trent Timoy For the amount of damage given.. This is a fan made cgi scenario. The way i see it war bird declockes and damages engines. The rest is a battle.

[@Justice107]

Very nice detailing The music score is blended so well into the picture and choosen well to highen the setting. Nicely done.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@EVAUnit4A Thanks. The warbird model was designed by Raven Night as a game mod for Bridge Commander and fits into this timeframe and the escape pods were made by me, based on other escape pod designs we have seen. I understand about the music but it was neccesary for timing purposes, I don't have a composer scoring my videos so I have to make do. I think the fastest I sped any piece up by was to 110%. Im suprised anyone noticed.

[@thelordoftimekirk6317]

10 years on and this is still brilliant, better than most things on KZbin these days

[@sockmess]

well made gold. Thank you for bringing this to the people who wish to see it.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@BoredomCorner Yes they probably would be up anyway when entering into a combat situation. I was trying to show a surprise attack when the first warbird decloaked. I was thinking that the Enterprise expected to be able to detect the enemy ships, not knowning they were specifically Romulan ones with cloaking devices and when there were no ships detectable they expected this to be no more than a mission of aid and assistance.

[@agentm31]

You're hard work and determination shows! This is incredible

[@hikermatt]

That's a brilliant video! I really enjoyed the C/D encounter and the snippets of TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise" played over the scene - very inspired and an excellent selection of lines. Look forward to your next.

[@Ingens_Scherz]

Great job. I really enjoyed that. The creativity and talent of some people never ceases to amaze me.

[@nitodub]

I enjoyed every frame of that. Thank you for posting.

[@DBro65]

@satyrquaze - I had seen this video with the captions on. The captions explained that as the Enterprise-C was coming up on Narendra III, the distress signal never identified the attackers and no ships were detected on their sensors. The shields were down to render assistance to the outpost. However, before Captain Garrett could react, the Romulan ships were already de-cloaked and had their first volly of photon torpedos fired. This knocked out their shield array instantly.

[@BigNick419andholding]

Impressive. I think it was well done. The rendering of Enterprise was phenominal. Good work!

[@428ghost]

Well done! I like how you added momentum to the impacts on the Enterprise, something likely hard to pull off with the models used in the series' fx shots.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@TitanLover8011 Yes that's right, the warbirds from this battle weren't given a class or type, but the creator of the model I used had in mind an older, smaller design compared to the D'derridex/B-type for the Ambassador-era.

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

I liked it. A new, consistent-looking design of Warbird, and it's generally nicely-done. The pacing could be described as a little sedate perhaps, and I can't honestly say that I much cared for the Enterprise-C wobbling on its axis when hit on the saucer, but I can see just how much time, effort and skill went into making this and I'm really impressed.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@Johnnymoo Thanks. Yes I agree about the warbird, there are a couple of scenes where the lighting made it look much worse. Right now I am sorting out the models for the various classes of ship in the battle, getting them looking as good as possible, so I haven't started it yet.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@DazhFX Thanks. Well if you watch the whole video, you can see that the impulse has a blue glow from 7:11. I consider the blue impulse from Yesterday's Enterprise to be a VFX error, considering all other Federation starships which have red to orange glows. However I considered that maybe the impulse drive was damaged which caused it to turn blue sometime before the point where it went forward in time. Therefore in the "flashforward" scene it is blue, which is consistant with the episode.

[@seanwolslau-holdren6731]

51 years is how long it's been since the signing of the Khitomer Accords. 2344-2293=51 if anyone is wondering.

[@Theboibutters]

You guys did a bloody excellent job on this, well done

[@admiraljoshhar]

That was very good! I can imagine the script in my head- Captain Garret and her crew's reaction to the attack, the alert sirens, the consoles exploding. And I can see Castillo and Yar's valiant struggle and final decision to abandon ship. An awesome video!

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@CJCA915 No it's all done in AE with 2 layers of the beam plugin one with some fractal noise moving in the direction of beam to give it some "flow" and a second blurred out one. The Romulan weapon is just a blurred out line. To be honest it's a pain in the neck to do it that way I might try doing it all in Max if I can next video.

[@pgc4sean]

That was amazing! Simply stunning! VSFX, you do simply awsome work. Thank you so much.

[@jmar1973]

Nice!!! I've always wondered,as a teenager,what the actual battle itself looked like after "Yesterday's Enterprise" ended.All I had was my imagination to go on. Until now.Great work!!! Thank you!

[@GreatGarloo]

@satyrquaze Correct. When the Enterprise-C went forward in time to the Klingons it looked as if they had run away resulting in the Klingon/Federation war. The timeline "corrected" itself when the Enterprise-C went back and was destroyed in the fight. Though as we saw in another episode there were prisoners taken and, if I'm remembering right, whatever was left of the Enterprise-C was put on display on Romulus.

[@kruleworld]

nice cg. the ships are beautifully rendered and the camera work is quite well done. i'm a bit worried about the enterprise's lack of shields.

[@quasiphatpaul]

I loved the way you slightly modulated the light behind the cloaked ship. Very eerie and subtle. ST could've used the same technique to let the audience in on stuff without letting the crew know. Very cool.

[@Vonstadt]

You know what VideoSpaceFX, i really thoroughly enjoyed this, very nciely done. I expected exactly what I got anf was entertained. You have talent and I say good job and thank you!

[@DBro65]

@satyrquaze - Anything could've happened afterwards. Remember, in ST III, the automated systems of the Enterprise began to break down and eventually failed completely after the Klingon warbird fired on it. The Enterprise-C was already heavily damaged from the earlier firefight. I could be wrong, but I think Geordi said something about the Enterprise-C's shielding being limited.

[@mcavelli84]

VERY VERY good. I am a Trek Shipper (I love my trek ships). I didn't care so much if you did do the ship wrong. I was too distracted by the excellent cinematography and graphics. You pieced together a story that was wonderfully done and compared to others (except one other trek artist on you tube whom only beat this by graphic quality alone) this is a masterpiece.

[@roush2win]

Very good fun to watch. I knew that was the enterprise C but did not realize what episode it was from until it went through the space distortion. Thanks!

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@BlackGT2 Thanks, there are actually 4 warbirds in total (see 7:00) which agrees with the account given in Yesterday's Enterprise. I wish I'd made it clearer that the Enterprise's shields were down and then knocked out in the first attack as people comment on alot, either that or give her shields that fail later on.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@holodock Yes, I was not happy with the movements anyway but you can notice that the earlier hits did not react in that way. I think I saw another video on youtube which had the ships doing that so I copied it. Those are actually disruptor hits so its purely an energy impact causing an explosion, which would exert a force on the ship, but probably not that strong. Thanks for the input because I certainly like to make sure my videos are as accurate and plausible as is possible.

[@apotheases]

Very cool and well made video! I really like the design you did for the Romulan ships of that era.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@rossco010 Yes I agree that the battle is a little flawed. I was making it up as I went and concentrating more on the effects and modelling. I did storyboards for the Maxia battle but I was just rushing to get this one done. I think they would have helped and at some point I want to re-edit this video, trim it down and make it better.

[@jwc00789]

I like what you've done so far and look forward to seeing a newer version when you have posted it.

[@ChibiabosWolf]

@VideoSpaceFX It wasn't established for certain that it had, but it seemed to be the point of divergence and it was specified, in the alternate timeline, that the outpost had been destroyed. It seems to me that, despite the fact that the Enterprise-C was destroyed, in the regular timeline the outpost did survive thanks to the sacrifice of the Enterprise-C.

[@JeffIrok]

Wow - A lot of work went into this! And it looks great! Thanks!

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@OriginalTrekker1966 No see video description and previous comments. The shields were lowered for transport of aid to the stricken outpost and then damaged by the attack. I believe that the Enterprise fought the warbirds alone since there is no mention of Klingon ships when Garrett speaks of the event in Yesterday's Enterprise. I was going to have a few Klingon ships arriving as an ending but I didn't get round to it.

[@pianoman1112]

This has all the makings and imagination of Star Trek and all that it stands for, excellent work, to anyone out there, how can u ever make a dislike or negative comment here when this is as close to seeing a new episode of STNG as you will ever get. Makes me realize how much I love Star Trek and how it captures my imagination and makes me long to see more, thank you sooooooo much for sharing!

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@basherman69 Yes well it's something of an oversight, I had intended that the Enterprise had assumed there were no attacking ships present. The distress call did not specify who was attacking, therefore the ship would have ended red alert and dropped shields to transport down and render aid. At this point the Romulan attacked. The thing is I rendered that scene literally months ago and I did the titles just before uploading it, so by then I had forgot what my thinking was about the scene!

[@MrFreesearcher]

Yesterdays Enterprise was, and still is one of my favourite episodes. I often wondered how the battle might have gone. Be neat to see some short episodes of the adventures of the Enterprise C, since this era has little write up.

[@JckSwan]

I can't claim to be much of a fan of these amateur ST efforts, but this one was really rather good. The understated battle scenes are a definite plus, in my opinion. Great job!

[@archangel0829]

Incredible program. Thank you very your hard work. Too bad we never saw an actual television episode of the battle. It would have been glorious!

[@Rapidnadion]

Very nicely done. Impressive, to say the least. Great to finally see the battle of Narendra III.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@adwadle As said in the vid description, shields were down because at that point they were beaming down to render aid to the suriviors of the outpost, I just did include a title for that.

[@TheMontanaDave]

One of my favorite episodes remastered. Very good job.

[@Ender-Corbin]

Superbly done!!! Excellent CGI and retelling of the story line.

[@odcoolshark75]

VideoSpaceFX I would like to say thank you for filling in the gaps to the demise of the Enterprise C. It was well told. If I were a movie producer I would hire you all to make this one piece . I all ways wondered how the battle would play out

[@AZspaceGUY]

OUTSTANDING effort!!!! My compliments! A small piece of advice: knock it off with all the fadeouts. That's all. I LOVED IT!!! Super Job! Please bring on more!

[@voyager202000]

Excellent retelling of the story! This continues to show that the best talent is on KZbin and not in Hollywood! Very nicely done and great imagination!!!!

[@noobbube55]

with great detail like that all you need is a couple of bridge scenes and you can make your own great series...awesome videos

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@ChibiabosWolf I'm actually not sure if the outpost was saved directly by the Enterprise-C's actions, but anyway the outpost is not shown in this video.

[@KNPrince]

When the Enterprise-C goes back through the Temperal Rift and resumes the battle against the Romulans you can almost tell that its Natasha Yar that is now manning the Tactical Station... Where as before whoever was at that station didn't really have a clue what the Enterprise-C was capable of. This was very interesting and very well done.. Thank you..

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@CJCA915 Thanks! I've been waiting for the upload/processing as well, it's 4am here now! Yes I wasn't happy with quite a few of the shots of the warbird especially, I think what you suggest may improve that.

[@BlackGT2]

@VideoSpaceFX This was fantastic. Not sure what the treky121212 guy was talking about either. The video clearly says the Enterprise dropped shields to help the Klingons and there were definitely 3 Warbirds. Very nice work on this.

[@satyrquaze]

@mayena Right, Blood enemies. There very possibly could have been a Klingon/Romulan war during this period which the Federation stayed out of. The attack on Narendra III is canon. Captain Garrett said there were four Warbirds. We simply don't know how the Klingons responded. The Romulans wern't really big on talking about what they were up to during the 50 years of isolation from the Federation.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@Hienn Yes it's from "Let's Get Out of Here" from the Star Trek V OST, used in the scene where Spock tells Kirk not to hug him infront of the Klingons.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@basherman69 Yes, she did know by then since the battle had already begun and her ship was already heavily damaged before being pulled into the time rift. My thinking was the actual distress signal had not identified the ships as Romulan and they would not find that out until the ship decloaked and attacked. Had I put in a title saying this the suprise decloaking and attack would have made alot more sense! That's a good suggestion I will definitely do a TOS-era vid at some point.

[@sbz666283]

very well done, giving respect to those who created the music and stuff was a nice touch and very professional.;)

[@Baseshocks]

All the ships blown up in seconds are severely outclassed by the other. The video is very well done.

[@Critter145]

This is incredibly well done. Really nerdy, but great to watch. Cheers!

[@noonco]

That was super fun! Thanks for filling in the details I never understood of how Tasha made that later appearance after her death! You use of music was totally pro. Hope you make more. Thanks.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@Irrenmann Thanks. I respect the points you made and I may at some point create a re-edit of this video with the elements you described. The impulse engine does glow red initially but later it is blue. I knew the glow was blue in the episode but I took it to be perhaps caused by damage to the impulse drive since red/orange is the standard colour we have seen for 23rd-24th Century starships.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@curtisstorer The modelling and textures are by Sci-fi Art. It's all image based textures for diffuse colour, specular etc.

[@donnie1990]

loved the way you used the klingon's theme to introduce the story. all music works great in this. carry on good work, ships could be a little more agile. im usually no fan of cgi, but looks cool ;)

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@fieryphoenix Yes I definately want to re-edit this soon in a way similar to that, as it's more in keeping with the account of the battle given by Garrett.

[@jamieolberding7731]

I really like the design of the Romulan Warbird's. Great job.

[@Whitelitr]

LOVE the sound effects. the impacts are much better than anything done in the series. It actually sounds like something hitting, and hitting hard.

[@hectorchavez2881]

I thoroughly enjoyed watching this creation of Narendra III. Well done!

[@MrMikellsof88]

i like that most if not all of the damage is consistent with what we see post-battle in Yesterday's Enterprise

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@CJCA915 Well no actually the original render resolution was 864x360 and from experimenting that is upscaled to 1024x576 for a nice looking KZbin video at 480p. Next video might be 720HD but it makes things more difficult.

[@DBro65]

@satyrquaze - Like I stated, I could be wrong. However, I did find something interesting. During Capt. Garrett's conversation with Picard, she mentioned about responding to the distress call. She told Picard this: "The Romulan's were attacking it, we engaged them." This would suggest that the Enterprise-C entered the Narendra system and witnessed the attack and moved in to fight the warbirds. This also suggests that the warbirds were not cloaked when the Enterprise-C came up on them.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@rossco010 Thanks. Yes I use Memory Alpha and Memory Beta as background info sources.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@Leopardmadcat Thanks. Yeah, its hard to think about pacing and how the whole video comes across when you are working on renders of different scenes over several months. However, having encountered overwhelming odds retreat is the most logical course of action.

[@Beekman2684]

@VideoSpaceFX Phenomenal, I noticed few if any incongruities. It explained Tasha Yar in the Episode of STNG, and made the Ambassador Class way more then just a simple afterthought. And the CG was fantastic. Good on ya mate

[@Ricanela07]

Well done, this actually completes the episode "Yesterdays Enterprise"