Vigilante Mom Executes Her Child's Murderer: The Case of Marianne Bachmeier

[@thatveganpunk13]

Accusing a 7 year old of SEDUCTION and BLACKMAIL is truly one of the most unhinged things I’ve ever heard.

[@ahliver]

FR like…they don’t even understand what either of those things are!!

[@bigbootyboy420]

Even if it was somewhat “true”….. like ur a literal grown man how are you being coerced in any way by someone who is just older than a toddler… the audacity to even utter those words

[@itsalwaysteatime3803]

I know ! She was 7 years old . She was a baby.

[@dyshaunheslop4474]

Though i agree with you 1000% it’s very common these monsters blame the child instead of taking responsibility

[@ahliver]

@@dyshaunheslop4474 we know we just think it's bonkers that they'd think that was an even good excuse because they're a child. Like yeah you can technically claim those things towards an adult but a YOUNG child? That's just an insane accusation.

[@ash-qu33n]

As someone living in Germany, my mom always told me bluntly she would turn into Marianne if someone ever hurts me. A mothers love goes beyond any law or judge.

[@geografiainfinitului]

51:26 The courts wanted to made and example of her. But wanted to free or give a light sentence to the murderer of his daughter. This is Western Justice 101

[@elnombre5597]

i am speechless. the immense trauma this woman went through is just horrific.

[@ZuzusHouse]

Ikr and she was just a 7 year old, can’t imagine trying to be a happy child with an absent father such a neglectful mother and then getting murdered while just trying to make friends

[@Lenergyiskey358]

@@ZuzusHouse I think the comment was aimed at the mother 'woman'.

[@GreatElynator]

@@Lenergyiskey358I think zuzu is trying to actually point out the victim in the situation. Not the grown woman that was partially responsible

[@Lenergyiskey358]

​@@GreatElynatorBut in her response (ikr, meaning I know right), zuzu is agreeing with the original comment who, is talking about the mother.

[@GreatElynator]

@@Lenergyiskey358 that’s sarcasm. That’s why you got confused the first time

[@SleepyKwee]

It really irritates me that people were (and still are) so quick to judge Marianne on being a struggling single mother but never seem to judge the man who actively CHOSE to abandon them both. Double standards much.

[@itsalwaysteatime3803]

Feeling the exact same reading the comments judging Marianne! Where's this judgement of the father's?! Typical.. women are always held up to standards that men are not. And what's worse some of the harshest comments seem to be made by women ..that turns my guts!

[@Irishmammy281]

In Ireland the priests used to Name the pregnant girls from the actual alter at mass but never who made them pregnant,,,hard to believe 💔🇮🇪

[@itsalwaysteatime3803]

@@Irishmammy281 ah good old catholic Ireland absolute b*starts! My grandmother was put into an orphanage in rural Ireland in the 40s and my mother and her siblings where thought by the nuns and Christian brothers,I've heard of many horrific stories!

[@graceyoung3771]

​@Irishmammy281 Wtf another reason to be disgusted by religion. Still love the idea of God but religion sucks.

[@llilsiaaa4849]

@@graceyoung3771weird take

[@julietterose1619]

Your absolutely correct in that a 7 year old can not hold an argument with an adult.

[@MarzBlueSoul]

I mean, according to my niece they can, but it's in no way logical or way thought out because, y'know, they're a child.

[@joanna0988]

My 8 year old daughter has stumped many people 😅 She's observant and quick so she often points out hypocritical behaviours that people have a hard time defending.

[@saharah101]

@@joanna0988I was like this at school teachers hated me🤣

[@joanna0988]

@@saharah101 Haha yes I can see that but I like that quality in kids. I think if an adult feels like they can't be challenged or questioned by anyone they shouldn't be teaching. Also my daughter has ADHD which means she doesn't have much of a filter so we're working on saying things more gently 🤞🏻😅

[@JubbysDragons]

​@@joanna0988my cousin(asd) when he was 6 my aunt(his father died so he lived with her) told him "stop talking back to me" during a fight of theirs and he straight up said "that's what conversing is Yaya" 😂😂😂 I turned around so fast like how did he know the word conversing. She was stumped and told him to go clean 😅

[@AmateurCreep]

If i were in that courtroom, i didn't see nothin, i didn’t hear nothin

[@marbleherogaming735]

Same, i was tying my shoes while listening to music

[@spicethegod]

And I don’t know nothing .. so don’t ask me anything 💯

[@Makeuploveculture]

Same!

[@ChelseaGodwin-gq5ne]

Same I was walking my dog I didn’t hear anything

[@herpyderpy4366]

"Must've been the wind."

[@grampsandi]

Can't believe the defense team was trying to say that Marianne attending her job and her daughter being late or missing a class justifies that their client is allowed to kill her daughter. F*ck off w that.

[@jenniferholden9397]

She was just making sure that he couldn’t do it to another child. They should have never let him out of prison.

[@madisonmccann1221]

Agreed. Because that's exactly what would have happened. She saved other children with her actions.

[@lunadere222]

As someone who lives in Germany and then moved close to her birthplace I have heard of this story, and am so glad to see you cover it. I personally think the killer got his dues and Marianne got righteous justice for her daughter

[@Judah-pu5lc]

Amen brother

[@derikevans1076]

I’ve watched over 30 hours of your videos in the last 4 days while recovering from my 39th kidney surgery. Love you big 🥰

[@Me-iq4se]

Get well soon! Hope you're feeling well!

[@Joeseph_Kerr]

Why was my first thought “That’s more then a surgery an hour”? As if you’d gone though all 39 in those 30 hrs.

[@TheNope21]

im so sorry you had to go through that :( i hope you're doing okay regardless

[@laurahonaker2805]

I hope you heal quickly friend!

[@SoCalJellybean]

@@Joeseph_KerrI think maybe you need to lie down for a bit! 🤣♥️

[@MahasheS]

Marianne's parents made her homeless at 16 and never bothered to check up on her again...

[@geografiainfinitului]

that's why probably she swear to never let down her daughter

[@britt182x]

My daughter is her age. I can’t even fathom going through something like that. I don’t even know how I would go on. 😭

[@clairewillow6475]

I think I’d kill the person if they murdered my kid 😢 I feel so badly for this mother, I completely see where she was coming from

[@indiep318]

I know if my daughter died like this, I would be walking dead, there would be no point in living anymore

[@rayna20663]

I was thinking the same thing

[@madhattie2952]

Thank you for sharing Marianne's backstory. I remember this case so very well, she was a hero not only in Germany but also here in Austria. I had my first child in 1980 and me and my friends who also had little children at the time celebrated her for what she did. We were sure we'd act the same if anyone would do semething to our children even if we'd face prisen for it it would be worth it. On another note I can't understand why people would hate her for her parents being Nazi. Almost everyone born in the 1950 or 1960 had ties to nazi Germany through their parents or greatparents (including me born 1959). You can't hold anyone accountable for what their parents had done and I feel that Marianne Bachmeier hated her "nazi upbringing" as much as I do

[@edible_radium]

this!! especially since he dipped out so early in her life. its not like she was getting perks from her dad. i live in an ex soviet country and there are people whose parents were deeply involved with the dictatorship party we had, still benefiting off that to this day. but her case is completely different

[@Kimonashi]

And still... after everything... the age of consent in Austria is 14. It's disgusting

[@madhattie2952]

@@Kimonashi You are right. And to know this was only for girls, for boys untill quite recently the age of consent was 18 (I think it's 16 now) Just thinking of it makes one sich to the stomach

[@WildVee]

@@Kimonashi Ok..? Lol, I mean.. what can you expect OP to do about it? Austria is still a great country. Japan's age of consent is 13 and yet, everybody is constantly fanboying over Japan and saying what a perfect country it is. Every country has it's cons. Hope we can change the age of consent in many countries, not just Austria.. don't know what that has to do with the video, weird reply lol

[@sannmayy]

​@@WildVee Both countries are filth for such laws.

[@rosa1162]

Something I’ve noticed about your recent videos compared to your old ones is how much better they are detail wise, Like you can really see the effort you, and your team put into finding as much information about cases like these. Ive been watching you since day one and ive really loved seeing your personality come out a little in videos like these while still keeping it a respectful, professional but still keeping the spirits uplifted. Keep up the work Ellie !! So many people love you and your work 🫶🏻🫶🏻

[@andie3448]

I found her in her 3 year mark and I thought she was already so detailed only to watch her become MORE detailed 😭😭 I love her so much. She doesn't seem like a professional like 10 to life or Stephanie Harlow but I like her because she speaks like one of us. Like a normal person that's genuinely curious and wants to share these dangers with the world the best she can. You can tell she cares about our world!

[@mollyblower3868]

@@andie3448 i disagree she is very professional she is talks about victims lives and the people they love and that loved them and she gives facts and tells people if a part of the case isn't confirmed to be true. she is nothing like the strange TikTok people that honestly annoy me that people watch them and she also doesn't sit and do make up like some I've seen

[@OzmaOfOzz]

​@@andie3448 Stephanie is super duper detailed and sometimes i dont wanna hear about a case in 5 videos but in 1 lol

[@no_prisoners6474]

And the feminist undertones that make motherhood seem like a curse. Poisonous. I guess the detailed nature gives her the platform to speak more about who she is and the victim narrative of motherhood. As a woman I find it insulting. One less channel for me to look st

[@michellegallia9361]

I still remember seeing the first video where her introduction changed to "me and my TEAM" and I got so excited for her because you actually have a whole team working for/with you now?! Idk, it just seemed like such a huge accomplishment and detail that she tried to nonchalantly throw in there and not make a big deal about, but we definitely noticed 😂 Good for her! That's so badass

[@ananyapattnaik9826]

It's so heartbreaking that the last time Marianne ever saw Anna alive they had an argument and they were in bad terms

[@chrisg9359]

Im from germany and I heard about this case on social media but it never crossed my mind that this case happend here eventhough she has one of the most german names I know

[@ciqured8525]

ich hab auch davon gehört aber der part mit mariannes missbrauch war mir null bewusst, so schrecklich

[@samanthabaker7823]

Sorry, but as someone born in the 1990s, "in the 1900s" took me out. I can't be that old! 😭

[@wxndermurph]

it’s funny cause Ellie is also born in the 1990s 😭🤣

[@mandyb2245]

I'm older than Google.

[@jadeybaby007]

I started high school in 1995! 😭😭😭

[@foxymama9203]

@@mandyb2245 I am also older than Google, I am older than PCs, cellphones etc..in fact I was a sophomore in high school when this happened. I remember the double standards that existed then and as an adoptee, the stigma that was still associated with young women falling pregnant and giving up their babies. My birth mother was 16 when I was born in 1964 and I am extremely grateful that she chose to give me the most amazing parents ever on this earth!! My life was blessed because she chose to see to it that it was. Ironically, I also became a mom through adoption and am grateful daily for my son’s birth parents also making the difficult choice to give him a better life with my husband and I than they could at the time. I have nothing but respect and empathy for Marianne, she did the best she could . Her past had nothing whatsoever to do with this pedo taking a beautiful child from this world and in her shoes, I can see myself doing exactly what she did to get justice for her daughter. I can’t imagine the guilt she carried knowing that even her very best was not ideal and put her child in harm’s way after harsh words being the last interaction with her child. I am sure she beat herself up worse than anyone else could have, but she was failed over and over her entire life. I am sad that her life was so difficult and ended far too soon. I hope she and her daughter are together again.

[@carrained]

@@wxndermurphOh I thought she was 21?

[@justaviewer_23]

I grew up raised by a single mother, a strong, powerful single mother. Sure there were scenarios where I had to grow up a little quickly, but you can always tell that your mother still loves you. More than anything. And she just wants to make you a good life. Anna knows that you love her Marianne, she knows that you love her more than anything you could possibly love. And your strength and determination and resilience is something she knows and loves about you. I hope you two are getting the time you always deserved together

[@Lenergyiskey358]

Yes, I was a single mum and made plenty of mistakes. I was a mess emotionally and in my book, neglected my sons needs over mine in quite a few shameful circumstances but one day, I asked him as an adult what he learned from me and he said mum, you taught me how to love.... He said he always knew he was loved, and that made me so happy. I loved that little kid with my whole heart, I was just lost, alone and struggling still to deal with my own shit. He is a blessing to me, and we are still close to this day.

[@GreatElynator]

A single mother can do a wonderful job. She didn’t do that. She was neglectful. She did what she could do with what she had but as an adult she should’ve known that it wasn’t enough

[@michellea.9853]

I gave my daughter up for adoption at age 19. There was no way for me to give my daughter everything she deserved and I love her more than words can express. It’s a decision that broke me and I’ve never forgiven myself for it. I understand how she felt, my heart and love go to her…she gave her everything for her children. RIP Marianne and Anna ❤❤

[@sarahissersohn5495]

Please try not to blame yourself- big picture, you are living in a society that makes zero effort to support young mothers. There’s no motherhood survival stipend, section 8 housing waiting lists have been closed in some states, for literally decades, nor is there a cultural emphasis on gathering around new moms, with support, encouragement, and resources, especially for younger moms. You did the brave thing. We are living in late-stage capitalist dystopia.

[@brendagamba7826]

#michellea.9853 I will soon be 75. I am the eldest of 8. I adopted a baby girl and she is now 29. She finished 2 degrees at university. She is my rock. I also have 2 of my own, a son and a daughter. My sister has a son, and she adopted a girl. I just want to tell you, I'm sorry that you feel the pain of having to give up your daughter, but also remember the joy so many of those Adoptees have brought into their parents lives. Much love and God bless you. A grandma in Cape Town.

[@ladyrosenrot1514]

you are a very brave wise woman , deciding what's best for the child and putting your emotions aside. don't ever blame yourself. 🖤

[@clairemancha6182]

Almost every male in Germany was drafted into the army even if they didn't believe in the Nazi cause. So it's pretty rich that the German citizens were turning against her for that

[@KarMa-ws3ll]

Although Maianne should not have been made responsible for her father, you get something very wrong here. The Waffen-SS was NOT the Wehrmacht (the army). I The Waffen SS was the paramiliary branch of the NSDAP. While Most male were drafted into The Wehrmacht (The Army), you had do get through a pretty regouros application process to get into the Waffen SS. For example, you needed at least 2 reccomendations, be very big etc among other conditions. You had to want it, you had to do an application and selction process. They were the most loyal to Hitler, from the Beginning (1925, long before the war, at a time were there werent even ny drafts allowerd due to the contract of versailles which forced the germans to reduce the number of soldiers significantly) they were there to protect him and fullfill his wishes/orders while using violence and they were among the worst commiting crimes against humanity. The members of the Waffen SS very much believed in the cause, they even created their own cult. Just look up their designated "cultural" center the wewelsburg.

[@mimiloforte]

I get what you're saying but her father was a part of the W@ffen SS, that is not "just drafted into the army"-it was a highly selective paramilitary organisation whose main goal was the to execute the "final solution" (aka the h0l0c@ust) It is a shame to blame kids for their parents crimes, given what we know about her later life (eg: going to Africa to help in teaching kids) it is understandable to assume she doesn't share her father's beliefs.

[@neilreynolds3858]

@@mimiloforte You could be drafted or transferred or shanghaied into the Waffen SS whether you wanted to be in with them or not. The main distinctions between the SS units and regular Army was that they had more men, better equipment, and fanatical officers. You're thinking of the Geheimnis SS which was a separate organization.

[@KarMa-ws3ll]

nobody was drafted into the waffen ss as it was NOT the Army. The Army was the "Wehrmacht" . For the SS you had to fullfill a lot of reqirements to get in. E.G you were only able to even start the application process with at least 2 referrals among other requirements. The Waffen SS already existet in 1925, long before NDSAP s rise to power (which the SS helped facilitate) at a time where Germany did was not even allowed to draft into the army due to the contract of Versailles. Its safe to assume the worst of a Waffen SS memeber as they were the most fanatic and the most brutal. It also was organised a lot like a Cult in some ways. It also possible to assume that she might have suffered a lot due to her father and did not deserve any of it.

[@Zaners82123]

Well when Hitler banned the Boy Scouts and created the Hitler Youth it was a requirement. It was an indoctrination form of boy scouts. If the boys refused they were attacked by the other kids. When they were finished with Hitler Youth off to war they went. Groups back then may not have been a requirement but to preserve your life and the life if your family it was a requirement

[@levisaunders4092]

Queen energy, no notes, she assured no more kids were harmed.

[@LaurilynM]

Me if I was in that courtroom: 🙈🙉🙊

[@inter_esting]

Fr tho

[@Hannahlytics]

She was a hero for saving more children from this predator. They can both rest peacefully now that they are together 😢🕊️ My Oma (grandma) was born during the Second World War in Germany. When she was 11 she played her accordion to soldiers. She was an adopted child and didn’t know if her birth parents where Jewish or German. They were German and many years later she met her biological family and sister. When she was pregnant with my mum she taught English in Nigeria and my mum was born there. Most people don’t believe me when I say my mum was born in Nigeria. And is very hard to get her birth certificate from there. This story reminds me of my family and the struggles that they have had during the war. What an incredible mother Marianne was and a beautiful child Anna was 😢❤

[@-EmmaBerglund-]

There is nothing to support she was a good mother. She heavily neglected little Anna. Even if it wasn’t her intentions that was what Anna went through. And that neglect resulted in the situation where Anna, out alone on a school day, was lured into that disgusting man’a house.

[@simonekeijzer7468]

I can tell you that people in the Netherlands, where I grew up, were well aware of the case and she was supported there too.

[@Morqana]

NETHERLANDS ❣ always have been way ahead of the world in morality, government, public services, taxes etc ..!

[@AlanaSandoval-zg5uc]

One of those true crime cases that never leaves you… I cannot put into words how powerful and strong Marianne was, RIP to an OG Mama Bear 💕

[@aleksandralempart8305]

Theres a similar case in US where father kills his son's abuser also from the 80s if i remember correctly.

[@paulus-kz5vq]

Gary Plauche was the dad's name... there's loads on KZbin about him

[@js-93308]

There was just something about her body language and the vacant stare as she shot him that broke my heart. I can't even begin to imagine the pain she felt as they tried to blame her little girl 😢

[@thewoundedwarriors]

This reminds me so much of my life. When a mother wants a man more than her child, that mother will do things you couldn't imagine. My mother enabled my step dad's behaviour and joined in to show her loyalty to him. The child becomes a weapon that helps unify the parents and just used as pawn in their games in this environment. Devastatingly traumatic to the child who bonded for survival and has to learn as a child that your whole world doesn't love you.

[@milkkeato7613]

I hope you're doing okay❤

[@AchievingIndifference]

I don't understand the correlation between your situation and Marianne's... But I also had a mother who put men before her own daughters so I do understand your pain.

[@KE-hr4sb]

As a parent, this one hit me in the feels. I've had my kids go missing briefly, and the feeling can't be described. It's awful. The worst thoughts flash through your head, you think of all the worst-case scenarios. Marianne lived the worst case. My heart goes out to her.

[@joycewible8816]

Ugh, my heart goes out to her. My son had a high fever once and I neverly fell apart I was so scared! I can't imagine the pain of that loss. I don't agree with what she did, but I can certainly understand why she did it 🥺

[@Hehshswin]

@@joycewible8816I guess it’s an unpopular opinion but I agree with what she did if the courts would have permanently Imprisoned him for assaulting little children Ana would have never been murdered and she would have never had to avenge her baby

[@LotlLoafing]

God, I can't stand the people turning against her. The theory about her dad being the reason makes sense considering what time this was in Germany, but it's just so frustrating. There's so many upsetting parts about this but that that part ugh

[@orangemom95]

In the 1970s/80s, it was rather common for kids to get themselves ready for school, take themselves to and from school and spend a couple/few hours alone until a parent got home. They called us 'latch key' kids, due to a lot of us having a house key on a string around our necks.

[@omgmatthew100]

The German people might've been supporting this woman, but the media and the system were indefinitely against her. True, this woman wasn't perfect, but she clearly loved her 3rd child, and did what she thought was best for her first two children!!! I think the system and the media were/are afraid of her!!!

[@colinofay7237]

It's awful, when you think that the media of course are ran by people (well, for now), so you would think being loved by the population would seep into the media, but I guess not

[@omgmatthew100]

@@colinofay7237 You would think so, but the media is controlled by donors and lobbyists, and those donors and lobbyists typically have their own agendas!!!

[@lawler4461]

Her negligence directly resulted in her daughter’s death. It’s sad and unfortunate but it’s the truth and the truth hurts. Can’t take back those actions. Simple.

[@Lenergyiskey358]

@@lawler4461 No, the arsehole that killed her directly resulted in her daughters death. The mothers negligence directly resulted in her daughters childhood being neglectful. Simple. A child not being able to trust the adults around her has nothing to do with her mother negligence. Yes, she should have made sure her child was at school, but this did not cause her death. That sick pedophile did.

[@omgmatthew100]

@@lawler4461 I think most people know she, herself, wasn't a perfect mom, but she undoubtedly loved her children, and she undoubtedly got justice for her 3rd child.

[@sophiespielman6775]

What she did for her child was OG Queen behavior, there is no other description for it.

[@Kirbykayy]

I think this story is overall so tragic. I have mixed feelings about the mom, but I am glad she got justice for her daughter. Her daughter never deserved the life that she was raised in.

[@finnsnow2495]

Neither did her mother. Almost like misery breeds misery. Not always but it's not hard to see why the mom was so messed up. Not an excuse but I dont think the mom was by any means a bad person. She just did bad things like Elenor said I think she genuinely saw Anna as a teen with the way she treated her, like she couldn't comprehend how a 7 year old and teenager differed.

[@nicleswrld]

@@finnsnow2495probably bc that’s how she was forced to act at a young age

[@VettaBoop]

Exactly ​@@nicleswrld

[@SpecialBlanket]

Indeed, her own past is irrelevant.

[@Lenergyiskey358]

@@finnsnow2495 I agree.

[@gracefurness148]

please do a case on Wayne Couzins. He was a UK MET policeman who abducted and did the unthinkable to a young girl while on duty. he lived down the road from me and i'm dying for a video on him. love your content

[@hayleyb2552]

Was this the Sarah Everard case? She was 33, not a young girl but still horrific. 'Murder with my husband' covered this on their channel a while ago I believe x

[@inksplikt]

Eleanor has a link on her bio where you can suggest cases!!

[@JESSEXTO]

Annie Elise did a deep dive on this! I highly recommend checking it out

[@ladyrosenrot1514]

this is weird and irrelevant to that case but I have a book suggestion for you with somewhat similar story. it's called Along the River of Flesh by Kristopher Triana.

[@yasladakaya]

Girl. I am 10 minutes into this. The foundation you are laying makes it so abundantly clear as to how this case will end--- you are painting such a vivid understanding how how this woman will go from point A to B. I have such empathy for her. And an understanding of her decision

[@alicexx3116]

I saw a video in another language saying that the guy went to his doctor and asked to have his libido back because he had an adult fiancée now and he wanted to stop the chemical castration and the doctor agreed…

[@voxrpet5790]

I saw another video about this case and they said that anna did in fact know klaus prior to this as she would go round to play with his cats often, which just makes it even more devastating as she knew and trusted this man

[@ED80s]

Yes she knew him. Sadly this day he was alone with her

[@eva_reynolds]

I was actually thinking about this case yesturday, I'm so glad you're covering it becasue it one of those where the details are often overlooked by the obvious. I haven't watched it yet but the detail, care and respect that you put into you videos is so outstanding. My condolences to everybody involved in this case and rest in peace Anna. ❤️

[@WickedWitchOfOz1]

I'm in the states so I haven't heard of Marianne until now. Marianne and a father named Gary Plauché from Louisiana who ended his son's SAer on live TV are my heroes. A parent's love is powerful.

[@madhavipayal2499]

She was such a strong lady even after she went through so many traumatic experiences ESPECIALLY losing her child in a horrific and unimaginable way, Rest in Peace Marianne.

[@cassiemarie2234]

While yes, she was a very negligent parent, is it really that surprising considering her life growing up? it doesn't mean she didn't love her child, just that she had no clue how to be a parent. But she was doing what she could. She worked long hours to support her. She just wasn't great at the caregiving part as her daughter got older. She had no help. She had no support. And, lets face it, when it came right down to it, she ensured that he couldn't even speak her daughters name ever again.

[@genevievelafleur3755]

I’ve heard this story a few times, and tbh this is the first time I heard all of the details regarding Marianne. I appreciate u leaving in the gritty or not so pretty parts of her life. Unbiased, and non judgmental. Thats just what happened and that’s the truth which is ok. Thats just real life. We fuck up sometimes, but that doesn’t mean we deserve to have our children attacked in this way. If someone was telling my story and left out all the bad parts id honestly be offended. So thank u Eleanor 😊 if anything it makes me feel for Marianne more, not less.

[@jordinjones08]

10:00 "back in the 1900's" omg I've been attacked. Help. Lol

[@brittneysarah6910]

I came to the comments to say the same thing 😳

[@angelicakoutsouridakis5816]

@@brittneysarah6910it makes me feel vintage.

[@Snakesnarl]

She also said they didn’t have phones back in 1980 😅

[@brittneysarah6910]

@@Snakesnarl 😂 I didn’t pick up on that but I’m sure she meant cell phones. Good lord, I hope so haha

[@brittneysarah6910]

@@angelicakoutsouridakis5816 🥲 we aren’t that old

[@j4jijo]

Now this is what i call JUSTICE. True justice.

[@cinnaboba1806]

ive seen the shooting clip so many times and never known the full story. Thank you for sharing these stories

[@elliebellieboo]

Marianne is one of the most incredible woman I have ever heard of, she went through so much and stayed so strong

[@mayaalieva938]

Little did the courts or Klaus know, he was guilty in the court of public opinion. If by some chance he was released on whatever grounds, do they really think he would continue living there? That he wouldn't meet the same end as he did in that courtroom? I know he would never know any kind of normal life in that town again that's for sure. Perhaps it was best he meet that end then and there, instead of only being jailed for two years (or longer, depending on the sentence for murder or whatever his claims were, in 1980s Germany), only to be offered the medication again, and lie about taking it, all the while moving away from there and do this all over again. The courts in any country need to stop protecting these....Things...(it's hard not to be swayed by this case).

[@Breewee78666]

My heart lit up when she was buried next to her daughter❤️ rest in peace to those 2 beautiful ladies

[@neamhcridhe6475]

fun fact. my mom in fact had her tubes tied after i was born. my sister is almost 5 years younger than me. the doctor was so shocked to hear what happened that when she had it done again after my sister was born, that he would adopt the kid as his if it happened again, since it was his mistake. the second time worked, but things also grew cold between my parents after that....but my mom wasn't the only one i've heard something like that happen to. i also have a friend who had her tubes blocked, permanently, but ended up with 2 more kids despite that. she even had the procedure done after the second kid and still had the third kid. after that, she had her entire uterus and ovaries removed so there was no chance she could fall pregnant again. crazy how the body works. there are also cases of where a woman gets one ovary removed and the opposite ovary will release the egg and find its way to the opposite tube. it's insane really.

[@Vegan_Vlogs]

I mean maybe back then they thought it's a 100% procedure,but we now know that it isn't the case. And the eggs do constantly move from one side to the other... that's actually how the body is supposed to work,it isn't anything uncommon 😅

[@taraleepenn8274]

I left a comment myself because that happened to my mother.

[@tezzanoia]

I'm from Germany, always lived close enough to Lübeck to go there regularly, even had doctors there in the past, so this case kinda hits close to home. And honestly, I absolutely hate how the public turned on her for things out of her control and making the right decision for her first two babies. As you say, she made the best decision for them by adopting them out, how can anyone get mad about that? And it wasn't exactly her fault she was born into a shitty family with a Nazi father, ended up homeless very young, making it incredibly difficult to catch herself, just to then be left by the guy who was supposed to be a dad to her third child, making her a single mom, struggling to provide. Like yes, she wasn't the best mom in the world with how Anna had to grow up, but it sounds like she tried really hard and loved Anna very, very much, can't blame her for the circumstances she tried to make the best of

[@sophiasebadduka1135]

Haven’t even gotten into the case yet but this HAIRCUT IS STUNNING ELLIE ❤ And thank you for always speaking so carefully about each victim!

[@ruthrandall2451]

This woman was so ready to be a mother. She didn't abort those first children, she gave them a chance at a wonderful childhood! She so deserved her daughter that she thought she was capable of keeping! My heart breaks for Marianne and Anna, and I am so proud of Marianne for being the mother that we all hope we would be in those circumstances ❤

[@eleanorcharlton8342]

FACTS

[@nbdjz1058]

one one hand yeah i understand what you're saying but also abortion wasn't an option back then, it was highly illegal and stigmatized

[@willowthelyxra]

I see the type of person you are..

[@eleanorcharlton8342]

@@willowthelyxra crazy

[@wheresmybaccy5059]

@@willowthelyxra mhm... i wonder their thoughts on women deciding to abort

[@rozel407]

oh my goodness I am so thrilled that you're covering this case. Ive seen that short clip of this mother delivering justice but I never knew the backstory

[@mirandadunn546]

The part of “double, it’s for Anna and me. I’ll be with her soon.” Took me off guard and brought tears to my eyes 💔

[@justexisting9395]

I am really happy that you covered a german case, i thought about this case a lot, because it is so tragic. (Btw your german pronounciation is really good!)

[@FernandaSantos-gp6ye]

Your content is so respectfully curated and the information about aid organizations was top notch. Thank you for treating true crime with such care. You’re the best!

[@denisetherrien9689]

I love the way you tell the victims story. You always stay loving and gentle. I also love what I know of what kind of person, woman, human you are. Be well. 💜💜

[@47151632]

Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.

[@carly102982]

Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!

[@speedemonxs]

Yes, dr.porassss. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

[@peishancraken]

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.

[@carly102982]

Is he on instagram?

[@speedemonxs]

Yes he is dr.porassss.

[@raylene_royal]

I don't have a kid for this exact reason. I was a child who was touched but my mother laughed at me and told me I was too young to know what I was taking about (3 yrs old) you would think that because I shouldn't know, and that I did... She would have listened but... Instead I was shown I was not protected by my creator, lots of mental and emotional problems came from that one thing. And she let it happen twice more at age 9.. Long story short.. I WOULD DO THE SAME THING! and that's why I refuse to have a kid.

[@carrained]

I'm SO sorry. I also don't want children because of how horrible things they can go through without the parents ever knowing or ever being able to protect them from.

[@zombiechicken7114]

Why would you do the same thing? You clearly know it was not the right thing to do. I'm sorry you feel so condemned by your past. It was not your fault. I hope you can get help to find some peace and self belief.

[@CharlieHorse4363]

@@zombiechicken7114I think they mean they would kill the abuser of their child if they had one not that they would also become an abuser

[@alexawriting1629]

My mom's mom got angry at my 8ish year old mom for "trying to steal her husband." After my mom learned that kids of women who are sexually abused are at a higher increased risk of being sexually abused themselves, she really went into mama bear mode and was determined to break the statistic. My mom was fiercely protective of my brother and me and made it very clear to us that she would always take our side even if the person who hurt us was a family member. She taught us good touch/bad touch. She taught us consent (which wasn't even something on many parents' radar in the 90s). She made sure we knew what the actual names for private parts were (sometimes kids are taught euphemisms for things and when they tell an adult something happened, an adult who doesn't know the euphemism may think nothing of it). She said that if anyone ever told us to not tell anyone what they did, they were lying. She started a neighborhood committee to get a convicted child predator out of the neighborhood after he was seen talking to someone's daughter at our bus stop. What always amazes me though is how what my mom did is often seen as going overboard. Like even when women are doing the right thing and empowering their kids, they can't win. What she did should be the norm and not just born out of the horrible childhood she had. I didn't fully appreciate what my mom did for us until I was older. (I don't refer to her mother as "grandma." I refuse. For this reason and MANY others.)

[@nancysimon5330]

Watching from Trinidad and Tobago 🇹🇹

[@rashi.m.m]

I saw the clip from the thumbnail a few weeks ago of the mom and I'm so grateful that you posted about it 😭❤

[@sammy5914]

I just seen a tiktok the other day about this case and thought I want to learn more and look at that Eleanor posts it ❤

[@uhm_oksure]

was literally just saying to my friend you should commentate over this. ellie you are psychic 💕😭

[@Professorkenneth]

The mother avenging her child...what a beautiful, affection, to do for her daughter and herself.👍🏻 Vigilante justice is the only way to create balance.

[@ED80s]

In her mind, she had nothing to lose. Free or incarcerated she would live in hell for the rest of her life. This way she can bring real justice for her daughter. These f*ckers should all be worried about vigilante parents

[@lisareynolds31]

May they rest in peace. Sending my condolences to all of their loved ones at this very sad time.

[@brixo366]

Good on you, Marianne, ALL of us mothers hope you’re resting so peacefully with your beautiful daughter!❤

[@belle2399]

i’ve seen ALL your videos and i was about to rewatch old ones that i haven’t seen in a year

[@callahanfamily4761]

This is the earliest I’ve ever been! 8 views! I love your content and how you bring awareness to these cases.

[@dahliabrown4883]

I haven't cried this much watching a true crime case in forever my heart literally feels so broken for ana and her mom as a single mom with a 6 year old about to be 7 Its so terrifying knowing that's it's truly disgusting and sick individuals just out here roaming free so glad she was able to get some type of justice may they both rest in peace 🕊️

[@Michaelan-n-Tosha]

I went back to your older videos and the audio from then to now is so much different. You have progress and became such a good KZbinr and I just want you to know that I am really proud of you. I don’t know you but good job girl.

[@Teaganarni]

so random but you do ads so well, there’s just something about it. That makes it so engaging. I want to buy everything you advertise 😭

[@ameliasmith432]

My cousin was murdered and passed away april 20 2022 the person who did it recently came out with a bunch of things that would try to make it seem like he is ok and wasn’t in the wrong after learning that and listening to this case I understand why the mother would do that nobody should say things against anyone especially if the person is not there to defend them self

[@pandiii]

I'm from Germany and know about that case. Some things I want to clarify/add are: Grabowski wasnt chemically castrated. He consented to surgical castration after he was sentenced for his crime. BUT 2 years afterwards he sought out hormonal treatment to restore his libido. So ya..his doctor never knew the real reason why he was castrated and treated this monster with hormones.

[@kathleenmcnaught]

Never heard this story. Thanks for a new one

[@loracarte]

I just watched the "failed" parachute video and it reminded me of a case I really think you should cover! It's the reason Brazil has specific laws against domestic violence and the possibilty of aggravating charges for men who murder their female partners or any women if the crime is acknowledged as being motivated by misoginy. The victim's name is Maria da Penha, the "Lei Maria da Penha" law having been named after her. She survived her husband´s multiple attempts to murder her, including the one the led her to becoming paralyzed, back in the 80s'. The whole story is just insane and really worth a video!

[@katejackson6502]

It truly is incredible how far we have come in so many ways since the early 80s and so far we have yet to come!

[@thedeadxtras9927]

Eleanor I really enjoy your story telling. I think it’s your lovely Yorkshire accent that keeps me engrossed in your narration. For some reason it does something to me that keeps me listening. Thank you for your entertainment and time you dedicate to researching and producing past crimes of interest to your listeners. All the best, Ta Steve (Manchester).

[@n1k0659]

She has a boyfriend Steve, Ta Nick (also manchester)

[@thedeadxtras9927]

@@n1k0659 haha yep I know she has a man. Obviously it’s sounds like I like her, but no I just think her accent is lovely and live the pronunciation of certain words. She narrates a story really well keeping me listening cos I turn off from many cos their voice and story telling gets monotonous and boring. Cheers take it easy

[@katieperry7020]

This one absolutely tore me apart, as a mother I could never fathom loosing my child.

[@athenaargyropoulos5988]

I’ve been on a true crime hiatus and just returned. Obviously your channel is my go to :) and I just started the video. Girl! Your hair!? Slaying.

[@deires77]

My mom was born in the same year (in Germany as well) and by chance her name is Marianne as well and my brother was born the same year like Anna with me following 3 years later. When I first heard of Marianne Bachmeier in the news my mom looked at me with a look in her eyes I had never seen before and told me "i would have done and would do the same and damn the consequences!" There's been a lot of discussion about this case every few years and pro contra vigilantism, but I for one will never forget that look on my mom's face that day.

[@kiayacyan2982]

This case makes me cry everytime 😭

[@v.watson4179]

I had no idea Marianne's life was this hard. She should've NEVER been arrested, that man was a waste of oxygen

[@GreatElynator]

He definitely got what he deserves but so did she

[@annacooper934]

​@@GreatElynatorI agree. She was a neglectful mother at the end of the day.

[@GreatElynator]

@@annacooper934 right!

[@theghostofumarskoolishere.4632]

@@GreatElynatorno

[@ImAMischief2]

19:10 Im kind of glad you mentioned this, as my mom was told by her doctors that her medical stuff made her unable to get pregnant, she then got pregnant 3 times. She later had to have her tubes removed due to cancerous cells. She was later informed they did not do that properly and she was still able to get pregnant.

[@kyra.3232]

Literally came home from work and saw this video. Had to click it so fasttttt😭

[@ratsandbats]

i recently got back into watching true crime yt and i forgot how great eleanor is at it! she's so respectful and empathetic. i've seen too many true crime yters that just rub me off the wrong way- can anyone recommend any other ones that are similar to eleanor in this way?

[@kristianavoutsinos9245]

Kendall Rae does a phenomenal job as well with youtube true crime cases. So respectful of the victims.

[@kiyoraka102]

The defense: Well she skipped SCHOOL!

[@phlebgrl6064]

This was an extremely powerful story that really tugs at your heartstrings, thank you for telling it so well Eleanor! I enjoy your incredible talent for storytelling from Orange County, New York, US and always look forward to hearing more!

[@awholelotofdoubting4880]

I love your videos! It feels like a friend explaining a (tragic) story she's studied up on. You tell the facts in a very thorough way, but the interjections and comments you make from time to time makes it feel more comfortable. I appreciate your empathy on all these cases, as a true crime fan I've found it's way too common for people to use these cases as a chance to overdramatize their storytelling and dehumanize people in them. This, for example, is the case of a woman who had a tough upbringing, made bad choices, was arguably not an ideal mother, and was related to people who were responsible for some of the most heinous crimes in history. Yet, it's hard not to empathize with her, and understanding her context and story is so, so important. You are doing amazing, please keep it up!

[@minxiemiau]

the second i heard she sterilized herself knowing what happened to anna my heart literally dropped to my stomach 😭 as someone who can’t get pregnant i understand the anguish 🥲

[@lucas11587]

Thank Eleanor for teaching me English while I’m watching criminal cases 🥰

[@phatghettorat]

when you said 1900s you lowkey gagged me i feel so old

[@morganpoff4237]

I feel so terrible for Ana who is just a little girl and didn't get to be a little girl. I also feel horrible for her mother who had a horrible life and even though she treated her daughter older than she was - her daughter still had a better life than she did and so at least there's improvement there.

[@carminia824]

Thank you for covering this case. I was very young when this happened, so I did not remember many details. Only that it was headlines, and that everybody talked about it. I am not sure the world has become a better place since then, with all the mobile phones and CCTV and safety measures. I would happily exchange today's world for the world of free-range kids, trust, and privacy from back then - even though all this made crimes like the murder of Anna so much easier to do. IDK. On a different note, you might want to look into another West-German case, that of Jürgen Bartsch, who murdered four boys back in the early 1960s. Very interesting - not only his life, but also the two trials and all the discussions about what he did and why, how he should be punished, what kind of therapy might help him or at least make him harmless for society ... etc.

[@rochellem2683]

Crazy that she had to serve any time. In 1984 Leon Gary Plauché received no prison time, just probation and community service, for doing the same to his son's abuser.

[@dinobobbie]

Now, I've heard of the case, yet never actually looked into it further. Didn't know that woman was born around the city I would be born in 55 years later. Been watching your videos for probably a year now. They accompany me through so many things. Thank you for each and every video! ❤ P.S.: you pronounced Bachmeier & second "Waffen" very well 😌🥰

[@diagunner7811]

God this was such a tragic and heartbreaking story.

[@Thealphagorl]

There is a great documentary on her last days… she was truly an interesting, haunted and deep woman. I am glad she is now at peace with her daughter

[@creshendahmartin1666]

7 year olds can DEF argue. My son is very crafty with arguments when i tell him to stop playing video games or brush his teeth. 😂

[@jaileenclay2109]

Thank you for the time you take to cover these cases and providing the links and access to the organizations that you do❤️