Steroids: FIRST Cycles To IFBB PRO Cycles ft. John Jewett | Growth Hormone, Insulin, Diuretics, Etc.

[@JoelHansen]

Seriously amazing discussion. Priceless information!

[@ChaseIrons]

Kurt's shirt is everything 😂

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Raise the price on the shirt to fund more serostim

[@MassiverFreak]

I think you might be a little biased Chase, lol.

[@ThinkTwice2222]

No, no one does... Just us normal people who can't relate

[@JoelHansen]

😂 @@ChaseIrons

[@JasonCsokrates]

Cant believe Steve made us wait a year for this episode!!

[@betterstrength]

Steve, this has been one of my favorite episodes. It was great to see all these guys together. Great job! Your videos with Kurt and Dean ranking PEDs and Peptides were also great. Please keep doing more of these.

[@Kalebsweeten]

This is the collab I’ve been waiting for!!

[@devanklausegger6548]

Amazing episode!! Loved having John on a great addition to an awesome crew!! Thanks gentlemen!!

[@cnrspeed88]

This was a really great podcast. I look forward to the next one with the four of you guys. Always learn a lot. I really appreciate the honesty in content and the approach to the sport with longevity in mind.

[@KenE252525]

I find it funny that so many are out here saying that throwing HGH into the mix means less side effects than more AAS. Personally I get just as many unwanted sides from the GH - resting heart rate goes up massively, feel lethargic AF all day and crashes my SHBG even lower than it already was. Doesn't help me sleep either.

[@robertingram5600]

Same - you are the only other person that I've ever seen mention the resting heart rate thing. It's very real. Mine increased by 20% with only 3 IU, so no thanks. That had to go.

[@cfmuh]

Awesome round table!!!

[@MVMV1433]

Great anabolic round table ! Thank you all

[@jameshendrie456]

This might be the best pod ive listened too🎉

[@testxer]

Love it. Pure gold! Breaking hearts and making champions at the same time. Thx fellas

[@Zyzz69420]

Doc has always told me that my hct being at the top of the reference range is problematic, despite platelet count being right in the middle of reference. Nice to hear Kurt say otherwise!

[@Iui2345]

I completely disagree with the statement that any trt dose under 250 mg will not be anabolic. I lifted naturally for 8 years before on trt. I’ve went from 163 lbs to 195 lbs with roughly the same body fat percentage on around a 160 mg per week dose and I haven’t changed anything. I do eat more because I’m more hungry and my body weight has gone up and I lift heavier but it’s very obvious to me that these two effects are a result of the trt not my mindset.My mindset was grind prior to trt. Anyone who’s not a juice head will tell you that they’ve seen great success in modest doses of trt.

[@Iui2345]

I want to add that he is saying that people stop trt at doses of 100 mg because they don’t feel anything so start someone at 250 mg. If I took 250 mg I would’ve stopped trt right away because it was wayyy to much androgens for my system. This will make people have far too much cortisol production and likely they’ll feel like shit and stop

[@dansmith9724]

​@Iui2345 how does testosterone increase cortisol?

[@onnilattu9138]

Listening to this while cooking and eating, amazing shit

[@qui1766]

The “Got Serostim?” T shirt is goated 💀

[@ultrajoe3671]

guys, all bald and wearing black uniforms, I cannot watch this at the office because my colleges think Im part of Neo-N club lol

[@johnjewett7970]

😂

[@GMBGFX1]

I was thinking the exact same thing. I have long hair so at least I’m not a skin head YET 😂

[@leesthetics]

Hahahaha

[@Sobanski87]

They need Dr Mike Israetel on so you can say "he's actually Jewish".

[@ultrajoe3671]

@@Sobanski87 that doesn't make them any better nowadays 🤣

[@BatmanBoss]

Thanks guys. Great show 💪

[@TheSeltenreich]

Holy shit. This content is GOLD!

[@bzx1460]

I mean there is nothing better than such materials... you got EVERYTHING LAYED OUT... no BS, top to bottom, that's the kind of knowledge materials you need to really understand the highs and lows of the game... learn, listen, understand and pull the most out of it

[@autoimmune-barbell]

Can’t wait for this !

[@DavidHernandez-yb5pz]

I had Test levels under 250 at age 18 and 19. With only eating my mom's homemade Mexican foods and being skinny but lean. Already lifting since 16 consistently, no alcohol or drugs. Don't know why it was so low but I self medicated with at least TRT and wow I felt light years better.

[@jordixboy]

almost same, I was around 350 total T, and my Free T was below reference at 27, started TRT.

[@sethboooooi23245]

My mom is Mexican-American, so I mean no disrespect. We don’t have the best diets, very carb and fat heavy. Depending on where you live though, more fish can be incorporated. At least from my experience, the Sonoran type of diet ain’t too great. Maybe the Yucatan diet is more nutritious. I suppose that can play a role.

[@jkbjezza]

Exact same back then for me too mate, 333ng/DL as a young teen back in the day

[@DavidHernandez-yb5pz]

@@sethboooooi23245 mostly still whole foods, better than most teenagers diets which usually include lots of junk/fast food. But yeah

[@DavenportBarbell1984]

@@DavidHernandez-yb5pz did you use pro hormones?

[@lukasz.rytkowski]

Fantastic group of guys or I should say educators and most definitely fantastic discussion/collaboration. Im a fan of John (no homo) for a very long time and I really appreciate his work and impact to this industry. Well done Steve for putting this together for us all - its not only a time passer during cardio but it provides a ton of good information for beginners and advanced trainees.

[@johnjewett7970]

Thank you

[@RobontheRize]

Can't wait to watch this whole episode 😁

[@nicholasmuetzel8420]

Jon is a legend and one of the best representatives of the sport. This podcast was top notch!! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@gibbs-y5i]

Best bodybuilding content out there! Thank you guys, invaluable advice and information ❤

[@stepaniss]

This is a certified hood classic 💯🥇what a banger of an episode great job Steve

[@fatboitino2]

Put the hood on serostim and a gram of test

[@CaseyKCRichards]

john needs to be allowed to talk more - he made amazing gains comi g from the 212 to the open .

[@zacharooni76]

John is a sick guy, really well spoken

[@jkbjezza]

Coming in clutch for cardio & the morning at work as well!

[@mattmason4589]

Sweet. Monday just got better

[@aaronellsworth2700]

Been waiting for this!

[@marcuswr27]

Love this vid, awesome knowledge

[@jay-remedy-plz]

Tomorrows playlist! Thx guys!

[@wetwea33]

150mg a week gets me to a trough of 1200 ng/dl and E2 around 40 when I'm under 15% bf. Feel fantastic on it. Really don't need an AI below a gram of T and my E2 is below 100. Test is best.

[@werk1ng]

More please. Anabolic knights of round table fantastic!!

[@coachmikaellaakso]

I saw the blood work instagram story about compatible foods. Is there any recommendations where to get tested. That looked super interesting

[@alvarojdc100]

It's a Food Intolerance Test, any good lab should offer it just make sure it's a complete one that tests over 200 types of foods💪

[@tigerfan42-1]

Mount Rushmore of PED educators

[@patriotmusclelabs2831]

Awesome info, from awesome people.

[@BrillianceAutoSpa]

Yep, my middle man can't get raws to me right now. However, they're good to go on peptides. Im also not that big of a fan of EQ because it just tanks my Estrodial.

[@michaelcosta05255]

57 year old former BB trying to maintain muscle. After many years of high and low doses of test,GH anadrol tren ect... I have found it very difficult to maintain muscle increasing dosages to almost 2g and Gh to 8 iu with very little results. My question is do you think my receptors are so downgraded that the dosage doesn't matter I can not continue to make progress?

[@Streamlinestructures]

Bryan John Juette Johnson. Love it

[@MyTechTopia]

I think Kurt acts like a “know it all”, especially within his comment stating that he can’t provide studies for the information but since he’s more educated so you just need to listen….🙄

[@joeharrell8363]

He has access to research that he can't even publicly site due to NDAs from the pharmaceutical companies that own the research. I'd argue he's 1 of 1 in the industry. Don't let your dislike of someone's personality make you miss out on the information.

[@DBTUNED-CT]

Ya you can’t trust anyone that speaks in absolutes, and then says trust and ask your doctor - ya trust the science is what they said 4 years ago 😅

[@jaredmuller171]

What's confusing to me is that the talk of mg/ml is regardless of ester, but that could net out to different dosages after a long period of time depending on test e or test P or sus250 etc. because at 500mg/W of test e would only net to around 375mg of testosterone in total

[@joshwalker3139]

I'm seing quadruple 🤯 great ep

[@dan1elsutton]

My first drug was anabolic xtreme superdrol 30mg a day lifting in my bedroom lol had to stop due to gut pain

[@Streamlinestructures]

Yuppp the good ol early 200s

[@kodymcgrath7148]

Just my 2 cents, but i think you guys should make it clear that the newbies should get tested fasted first thing in the morning when checking hormones. Half the people i talk to say their T is low get tested half way through the day lol

[@stefanallard3084]

Fixing the mitochondria is what samson is needing, everyone talks about how he isent dry enough but i just think he is inflamed (bad mito)

[@theBDoffical]

Torque!!! I remember being 17 years old working in a supplement store selling that to everyone 😂 bro it’s just a pro hormone you’re good!

[@user-cr4pz5yg7y]

Thanks for the m1T lol. 600 squat

[@LugoDH]

Ah, Tren Xtreme days..

[@johnjewett7970]

😂exactly

[@jean-francoischaubard7322]

Just French humour: these 4 guys can't claim that PEDs are not impacting hair growth

[@GymGrindThailand]

I started test E (250/week) 6 Weeeks ago 125mg e3-4 days. Since I started I got sick 3 times. My estrogen went from 27 to 112 within the First 4 weeks. Don’t Know if I should quit. And should I do a PCT?

[@robertingram5600]

Lower the dose and look into injecting subQ every 3.5 days. It slows the absorbtion down, which results in lower e2 conversion as well as lower hematocrit levels as well.

[@ryanmiskin8925]

Starting at 250/wk is insane, almost no one is going to be able to start on that and have no issues. Start at 100-120, do bloodwork in 8 weeks to ensure your markers are all in order, and raise it little by little to ensure you’re not shocking your system.

[@GymGrindThailand]

But what if i want to quit it. I think it was Not the Right decission for me. What should I do? Just stop? Oder do a pct? How do my e2 goes down and my Natural Test back? I had high Test Naturally and my e2 was at 27 before starting

[@grantheath6541]

The best thing about me getting cancer was all the free/required* bloodwork i got :) i would have never got it done without cancer lol. Freaked em out one week with high Liver enzymes :P

[@092Jamie]

What cancer did u get

[@grantheath6541]

@092Jamie Hodgkin's lymphoma i had 33 tumors in my neck all localized though thankfully. And I did take carderine 6 months prior to my diagnosis not sure if that caused the cancer but it was definitely weird timing 😆.

[@092Jamie]

@ did u have to go through Car-T or just chemo and radiation?

[@grantheath6541]

@@092Jamie breast cancer chemo(Red devil / bleo and like two other forms of chemo) and then an immunotherapy clinical trial. I'm officially two years in remission so the chance of it coming back is very low now thankfully.

[@grantheath6541]

@@092Jamie I got breast cancer chemo which is almost the most aggressive(red devil and bleo with two others I can't remember) then I got in an immunotherapy clinical trial. No radiation thankfully. Just hit two years in remission. Now the chance it will come back is really low thankfully

[@MystikMind1]

Nice shirt steve

[@pasolesoup7430]

How would you take follastatin?

[@md2949]

Doesn’t growth hormone grow the ears and forehead?

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Sliders was an underappreciated TV show. And so is original😮 Power Rangers. Green Ranger literally punched the Megazord so hard all the rangers fell out.

[@fatboitino2]

He was a problem

[@aaronellsworth2700]

4 comments I did my part Steve lol

[@SamsNewChannel]

What can be done about elevated platelets?

[@123-c1d]

About throw in some npp and mast any recommended dosages for the npp and mast?, ill be running 600 Test e as my base

[@nickps2251]

400mast 200 NPP

[@JenovaImproved]

Kurt: You're not going to outsmart bayer/phizer.. right after he explained the dosages aren't even based on intelligence they're based on compliance lol

[@Carolyn-hw4do]

What are some reputable sites to purchase real HGH?

[@IrritatedOnion]

John is a fucking genius.

[@johnjewett7970]

Thank you 😂

[@durstdrouin7545]

I have joint or tendon pain all over the body. Any solution? Thanks

[@teemann8379]

B12, hydrolyzed collagen, bone broth, low weight high reps, cardio, hydration, electrolytes.

[@durstdrouin7545]

@teemann8379 thanks for youre answer but i do all of thèse already. Looking for something more powerfull.

[@teemann8379]

I've had good results with test primo var and deca, also bpc and TB,

[@durstdrouin7545]

@@teemann8379 i note it. Thank you !

[@sedricrobinson9499]

@@teemann8379What doses do you use, if you don’t mind me asking?

[@TheRickTurner]

Yeah boi!!!!

[@LakeB707]

Let's go 🤟✌️

[@DrewPWebos]

Sounds like he used (Cyclobolan sublingual) I got the same results and Lost the same 😂

[@ThinkTwice2222]

48:25 What being a multi billionaire? C'mon

[@aaronellsworth2700]

Algo comment

[@antonis6459]

This guy eat like a Greek. 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Joe_Lifts_37]

2025 LFG 💪 💪 💪

[@zachreynolds1054]

This guy Kurt thinks he’s a doctor 🤣😂 he is the loudest guy in this group. John jewitt is very smart guy. Just stays quite and examines the conversation. Thank you Steve for the video 🙏🏻

[@gibbs-y5i]

Kurt will be obtaining his PhD in endocrinology, so yes, he is going to be a doctor. He is clearly educated unlike yourself, who can’t even use proper grammar and spell John Jewett’s name correctly 🤣

[@DavenportBarbell1984]

I think he is a doctor

[@gibbs-y5i]

@ he’s finishing up getting his PhD in endocrinology right now

[@DavenportBarbell1984]

@@gibbs-y5i yeah he definitely knows what he’s talking about lol

[@joeharrell8363]

He's 1 of 1 in the industry. I've never heard of a PHD candidate that has used 18ius of serostim and 4g of gear. He has the education and experience.

[@aaronellsworth2700]

2nd algo comment

[@ThinkTwice2222]

Rich guys with privileged access to things we'll never have, talking about things they don't want you to do nor we'll ever do. I used to like it but now see it got what it really is

[@fatboitino2]

They started somewhere- get your hustle on

[@RobontheRize]

Kurt looks miserable...

[@kodyjames]

I’m one those guys on 400mg test for trt and my test level is at 1000. I had a level of 407 before going on 3 years ago

[@MrCobi63]

You have serious problems when with 400mg test you have 1000.

[@qui1766]

@@MrCobi63it’s called an esterase polymorphism. Man medicine has a video on it, I saw another guy in a comments section talk about the same thing and he found the video. One study showed a guy that needed 500mg to keep a test level of 1,000. It’s a great watch and I’d recommend it.

[@Luke-vj3qn]

how? what ester are you using? what dosing schedule?

[@darkdevil6508]

sir , you might want to change both the supplier and brand , and the ester too actually , try cyp , enanth, undecanoate , the oil in which the testosterone is being kept too. I have never in all my research have heard someone only being elevated to 1000 unless an error is being made in the time of the testing after injection or simply very underdosed gear.

[@kodyjames]

@Luke-vj3qn idk 🤷🏻‍♂️ that’s just what the results where when I last did my blood test. I was using test cyp

[@andyboy198577777]

I love steroids ❤ I still look like shit but at least it makes training a lot fun and I’m naturally not a strong person. With a little cycle of, 210 test/350 primo/210 Deca I’m at least experiencing mental pumps and some added strength. I really do love the way it makes me feel. I’m a very bad responder to gear. I get crazy insomnia from the cycle I just stated but that’s the price I have to pay for having such shit genetics. I was running about 140 tren and I couldn’t handle the insomnia. I have insomnia even without being on cycle. I take 3 different prescription sleep meds without being on anything at all so I’m paying a price for sure right now but my delts are at least getting capped so YOLO🎉🎉 I get absolutely no blood pressure issues and I take aspirin once a day which I’m sure is helping at least a little!