Villains Too Stupid To Win Ep.11 - The Church of Unitology (Dead Space)

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[@tanks4nuthin964]

Fun fact, the deep lore of the origin of the church suggests that Altman (or however you spell his name) found out how bad the marker was when he discovered the black marker on earth at the bottom of the ocean, and he died to make sure the government couldn’t use it for their own nefarious purposes. Of course, a coverup came and the church sprung up around it all

[@planescaped]

Yeah, I do recall in the lore that Altman was trying to stop/destroy the marker, but history was spun and twisted.

[@joevenespineli6389]

Tragic really

[@MrRjh63]

I can confirm that the Book Martyr is actually pretty good if your a DS fan. Too bad i can really say the same for the comics.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

That’s Religion for ya! Hence why I support the minecraft-creeper outta atheist-channels!

[@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583]

Read the book! It's pretty much a prequel to everything! I have them all and I wish someone would do a mini animation abridging the plot it's good

[@kamikazelemming1552]

Guy 1: "Hey, maybe we were the real monsters all along." Guy 2: "That thing *literally* ate a man's face off and turned him into the undead equivalent of an orgy with legs." Guy 1: "Yes, but... humanity bad, though."

[@Biochemitra]

I mean, there can be more than one monster. In fact, there *should* be more than one monster. There can never be enough monsters!

[@Bloodhoven]

literally ANY horror, survival psychothriller game, movie or novel. which includes absolutely extreme cases of bad people. so edge much deep wow

[@inovade]

lol, humanity is NOT bad, just some human are more monster than an actual monster as if the other 99% of human population are bad... more like ignorant, that doesnt meant we're all "bad" even those "bad" one can actually revert to good, just like that doctor in the video i'm getting bored of humanity = bad stereotypes after all. so cliche, so boring

[@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree]

"Must... make... misanthropist... metaphor!"

[@LucasRogers92]

@@inovade considering how consistently humanity does the bad stuff, I’d say as a whole human beings are terrible. Not only to the planet but to ourselves. I think it’s more of a we’re all capable of good and evil but we as a whole tend to side more with evil.

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

I love how both the natives of Tau volantis and the sovereign colonies sacrificed themselves for the entire universe on that planet Bunch of chads

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

@@HelghastStalker not only the rest of humanity, but the rest of every living being in the universe

[@mileator]

Trying to imagine the Volantian version of General Mossad. I've got the Codex! We can still turn it off! Volantian: We lost control! *Whale noises*

[@AmaryInkawult]

Sovereign Colonies definitely pulled off the self sacrifice angle. And with how snazzy the SovCol suits are they looked fabulous doing it.

[@AmaryInkawult]

@@HelghastStalker wasn't really a fan of the EVA suit though. Especially the leggings. The helmet design was fine and so was the torso, but the arms and legs? Just no. The helmet with the retractable solar protector was a nice touch considering it wasn't a heavy duty suit, but the Stay Pufft marshmallow man legs put me off. Snow Suit and Explorer Suits? That fur lining was a VERY elegant touch~ sure the more military suits are fine, but these suits are easily my favorite because of the furs making them more survivalistic in my eyes since... Well you're on a snow ball.

[@AmaryInkawult]

@@HelghastStalker I know. Still can complain about general suit designs in the series tho. Speaking of. The SovCol suits are technically also _Antique_ Suits given their age. But far better looking than the Antique Suits in Dead Space 2.

[@Okatago]

"If only I could've denied Mercer the pleasure of becoming a Necromorph." Fun fact you can, if you're fast enough you can immediately run over to him while the hologram is goin and kill him and the Infector before it even has a chance to finish jabbing his head and turn him. It was hysterical seeing him just be another pathetic Unitologist corpse that didn't even turn. XD

[@jeremyallen492]

Fun fact about the Infectors, if you use Stasis on a corpse and completely dismember them while the creature is violently violating their skull it'll kill both the Slasher AND the Infector

[@cappedminer369]

@@jeremyallen492 cool !

[@cappedminer369]

Is there a video on that ?

[@katrez.]

He gets denied that desire in the Dead Space remake too, good.

[@ComicWriter-ml3qt]

Stomp him to pieces so he can’t be left for another infector

[@Calvin_Coolage]

I always liked how the Unitologist named Irons from Dead Space Downfall, despite being a true believer in Unitology, still did what he could to help other Ishimura survivors against the Necromorphs.

[@cautrimosala1495]

Guy respected their beliefs and fully understood why they didn't wanna be torn to shreds by necromorphs. Real G

[@thomasraines1396]

I liked him and Omar from “Aftermath” they weren’t complete fanatics.

[@rathalos1511]

Which made his talks with the thing doing all of the сarnage (tiny marker replica on his chain) even more cultist-like... Good thing he kept with humans till the end, though.

[@Mrkabrat]

The mad lad went out like a hero; killing necromorphs to give the group time to run before he succumbed to the marker's influence.

[@fumothfan9]

He was a good example of how open minded religious people get drowned out by the fanatics.

[@HereticalKitsune]

The good thing about death cults is that they all eventually end. Sucks that they are pretty much species wide in Dead Space.

[@Smartass012]

But they live to take every one with them and now we got a death cult in the US government with finger on Nukes and with so much invested in Covid there was no evidence anyone playing to release small pox . Making it Weird out of nowhere completely out of left field when Bill Gates said the Right wing groups with no access to locked up viruses were going to release small pox

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@Smartass012 yeah i admit that is suspicious as heck liek why mention small pox specifally? anyone can share a dumb opion even trillionaires but its when they get ODDLY specific that i actually get suspicious.

[@Hromovlad1]

Some of them try to take the rest of humanity with them like those lunatics back in Japan during the 90s

[@mastatheif9909]

@@Smartass012 the Jews that own the IS government? Like blackrock and Soros?

[@mastatheif9909]

Yeah, especially when a cool religion ends them, get rekt Native Americans lol

[@9ZweihandeR9]

I always interpreted Unitology as a direct result of the influence the markers put out, not as a baseless human religion that just happened to be somewhat right. In my view the events in Dead space were set in motion the moment the first marker was activated and humanity was steered towards this eventual goal. So the Unitologists aren't remarkably stupid, some people are just remarkably resistant to the marker's power.

[@jimjamauto]

Yeah the Black Markers are basically instructions for a race of sentient beings to worship it and build more to achieve convergence. The aliens on Tau Volantis fell for the same trick. Markers have powerful properties but are scientifically inexplicable, so any race that discovers them has no option but to think of them as divine.

[@blubberfeet5430]

Hey dude. Yes it's all the marker and brethren moons. See the black marker landed on earth 65 million years ago killing the dinosaurs. As it slept it discovered apes and sent signals making us what we are now. They influenced our species to be the top instead of say the mastodons. The reason the cultists are like this is again the markers. They are causing Civil unrest to make more corpses making more necros and soon more moons. They've done this to every species in the galaxy making it a dead space and we perhaps are the last species.

[@Dravianpn02]

@@blubberfeet5430 2001

[@milliondollarmistake]

Essentially Unitologists are just Genestealer Cults.

[@saltyshrimppasta]

That’s literally the lore reason for it. The Marker signal is what induces evolution of a species so that they grow, overpopulate, and turn to the Markers for a source of limitless energy. A lot of this is conveyed by the Artifacts in Dead Space 3 (an admittedly poor method of giving information), but it’s a cycle of the Moons creating advanced life and effectively growing their own food.

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

Is the Church essentially created by the effects of the Markers anyway? I mean, that's the feeling I got from the games. They aren't really an independent faction, but are just another form of the Markers' manipulation.

[@nihilityjoey]

No. Most members of unitology know nothing of real markers or events. The formal religion of unitology was created by dredger corp - marcov and his team from the black marker test site. Now whether they believed the marker was devine is not made clear, but what is, is altmans suspicions before he died that they were doing it to gain power and a means to continue the research. So they set up lies about Altman and the marker, had those that were present lie and go along with the story. And what better way to gain money, power and influence than to set up a religion. You have donors etc. But out of all of the practitioners only those with access to sites and research and those higher ups at dredger corp know anything of the real markers and their effects. This is why the outbreak on titan station happened so fast. All of those believers experiencing first hand the markers effects and believing their religious teachings. By three marker research was openly seen, and unitology itself had become ever more prevent and even though unitologists were a part of dredger corp and earth Gov, a division happened, those that saw the testing on the recombinant and markers as heresy, and that the markers plan was being subverted. And earth Gov and dredger corp trying to mess with the recombinant and marker as a means to control necromorphs and live through an outbreak as immortals.

[@cappedminer369]

that isn't true, even without the markers signals or influence they are still delusional

[@XD-sc4ix]

Well it's implied that the black marker created humanity soo it makes sense it manipulated certain peoples into creating unitology

[@user-oh6eg4ny3h]

Well here’s how it works. Markers manipulate people, they follow the marker and then go to far ends of colonies of places that doesn’t have markers and those people that were manipulated by the marker manipulate people who aren’t exposed to markers and have them “spiritual cleansing”

[@InkyBlitz]

@@cappedminer369 You don't understand how the marker works, it has deliberately guided human development and other species for that matter, towards the point of marker use/activation so that it can parasitize off the whole species.

[@clamantstone]

*When a human is being transformed into a mutant, Alien Zombie hydrid because of an ancient alien Cthulhu machine * Every Church of Unitology Person : ...I wanna be that so bad!!!

[@planescaped]

Man, the future must really suck if that's something to aspire to! "I could go to work today... but I've got a better idea!"

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@planescaped Consider the central flaw of the materialist approach to life: solid, concrete things matter, often at the expense of emotional well-being. However, since denying such emotional needs does nothing to make them go away, it leaves people completely vulnerable to the right (or more often wrong) message. And materialism has absolutely no defense against it. From such a wide gap does everything from Jonestown to Unitology come through.

[@KalashVodka175]

You forgot one important criteria Almost no unitologist actually comprehend what the markers does or have ever seen necromorphs (until its too late ofc) For them its a religion like any other. Only the upper echelon knows about necromorphs and most are either ultra radicalized enough that they manage to do mental gymnastics to justifies their goals, or simply don’t believe that « transcendance » involves becoming a necromorphs. Hell some of them are probably only in it for the money.

[@scutumfidelis1436]

@@johnathonhaney8291 True.

[@devonmurrell4036]

If the marker can manipulate people’s minds, maybe the necromorphs are seen more as angels instead of what they really are. They’re already brainwashed by their religion- what’s to say the marker doesn’t amplify that?

[@Vicullum]

The humans in the Matrix series would be a good candidate for these videos. 1. First they create robots with advanced AI and then enslave and oppress their creations. 2. When the robots rebel they try to wipe them all out. 3. The robot survivors flee and create their own city which grows in technological capability and economic power. 4. Humans try to blow up the city and kick off the human/machine war. 5. In the course of the war humans block out the sun because they thought the machines were solar powered and didn't even consider they could use alternative power sources. This action also shuts down photosynthesis worldwide killing all plant life and destroying their own food supply.

[@sephtis]

They did however discover how to make rocks and such edible. So scarring the sky wasn't quite as moronic as it seems, but it was still incredibly stupid.

[@prophetofpuppets]

Honestly the pre-fall humans in The Matrix are a series of bad decisions taken to a hilarious extreme

[@skepticalmagos_101]

@@HelghastStalker But still possible 😂😂

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@prophetofpuppets there like a aliens offensive parody of humanity so xenophobic and hatefull they will literally walk into a mind field rather then even acknowledge your existeance as alive.

[@JinKee]

@@HelghastStalker i don’t know we are pumping enough CO2 into the atmosphere that will make the Thwaites Glacier melt so real humans are just as dumb, and we didn’t even scar our sky to fight a foe, but for a little convenience

[@emberedfox223]

Honestly the only smart faction in Dead Space was SCAF they made sure anything marker related was so far removed from civilized space that when what would become Earth Gov won the Succession war they tried to destroy all assets so they had little to no information on markers, their test locations, and other top secret stuff with Dead Space 3 showing how far they went to cover this up as well as the book Catalyst.

[@nihilityjoey]

The thing is though, it wasnt just SCAF. Earth Gov and SCAF were about AT THE SAME TIME, (as is evident by an earth Gov ambassador visiting vendouga). Dredger Corp was conducting experiments using both sides, not to mention earth Gov was still the "ruling body". It was dredger corp who had the complex put on aspera set up next to the penal colony (which SCAF had a hand in), which is how SCAF got involved. It's some time after that SCAF forces and earth Gov had the war. And whilest the animosity had been building for a while between the colonies and SCAF the war would have also had something to do with the marker research, which earth Gov and dredger corp continued after the war. The sites were scuttled because SCAF was losing the war, and they didn't want earth Gov to get a hold of the research THEY had done. Yes things at the sites were going bad, but that wasnt the only reason they were destroyed, they didnt just do it out of noble reasoning. Dredger corp had set up the perfect cover with the church of unitology to be able to work wherever they chose, and it gave their higher ups the ability to pick and chose who was on the projects, because you could be earth Gov or SCAF and be a unitologist.

[@Lyzokiel]

@@nihilityjoey HOL ON HOL ON HOL ON aside from scaf I didn't know anything about the Shenanigans Earth Gov did outside of DS1 and DS2, where did all the other lore come from?

[@nexoncommand]

Moon faction was the smartest

[@nightshroud9671]

At the same time, they are the most stupid with Scenario 5

[@fumothfan9]

@@Lyzokiel comics Movies Spin off DS games like extraction for wii U The text logs

[@galloe8933]

I would have been too scared to mention "Scientology", truly you are indeed a Zealot! Thanks for the bravery, man.

[@Smartass012]

Scientology I'd just like Diminion voting system company sue anyone who gives them lip

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

@@Smartass012 Difference is one's a scam and the other is a legitimate company defending itself from nutjobs using it as a scapegoat since they didn't get their way. The Truth isn't Defamation. You get Defamation lawsuits by _lying._

[@Smartass012]

@@aircraftcarrierwo-class yeah yeah different words to make option seems then options. Only diminion actually destroys records violentes court orders like turning over Routers to Arizona audit

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

@@Smartass012 routers don't retain any data, literally what point would that even have? Nevermind it wasn't a court order in the first place and no relevant data was destroyed. Your little fraudit just proved Trump lost and you're still mad about it. What happened to "facts don't care about your feelings"?

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

@@Smartass012 also why are you whining about the electoin on a totally unrelated video, anyway? Are you so butthurt you have to bring it up everywhere? I saw you making the same stupid comments elsewhere in this section. Fishing for attention, perhaps? Than I've already given you too much.

[@dr.bright5670]

Funny that Unitology began because their founder tried to stop it. Also the true villain of Dead Space isnt the church of unitology, it's the brethren moons

[@fumothfan9]

Not even. Moons just doing making food since dawn of 1st one. Reflection of people tbh. Eat everyone and thing to gain more power and influence. The real enemies are greed and delusions of grandeur brought by lies cover ups and the want to expand power profits and higher state of being.

[@accelerationquanta5816]

They're not villains. They're gods, and we have no right to judge them.

[@SissypheanCatboy]

@@accelerationquanta5816 No, no they aren't. They are gross giant space jellyfish whose sole motivation is procreation. I will judge them all I want.

[@accelerationquanta5816]

@@SissypheanCatboy As impactful as bacteria in my sink judging me for killing them with a spray of disinfectant.

[@SissypheanCatboy]

@@accelerationquanta5816 Yeah and the bacteria in your sink also can't pick up a toothpick and use the power of science to launch it into your ocular cavity until you bleed out and die. Your comparison is stupid.

[@gjtrue]

Said it before and will say it again but LOVE the *not-so-subtle* references to Scientology with Dead Space's moronic religious zealots.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

As do I. I want to say that it was the first popular videogame series to really stick it to religious zealotry in general. But you could make the argument that Bioshock 2 or perhaps Bioshock Infinite got there first.

[@DoomResetR]

@@johnathonhaney8291 Halo had the covenant believing that the forerunners were divine instead of just killing themselves in an attempt to stop another alien species to the point that some of them kept believing even though the truth was public knowledge.

[@jetheotaku]

@@johnathonhaney8291 even though it was only ever popular in it native Japan the shin Megami tenses series has dead space top due to having the literal Christian god as the main villain even if they eventually with the gnostic interpretation that the Old Testament and New Testament god were different beings after the series started getting mildly popular in the US

[@accelerationquanta5816]

@@johnathonhaney8291 Religious zealotry is good.

[@accelerationquanta5816]

@@jetheotaku They’re obviously different beings. Total ethics switch.

[@durantes]

I love how he incorporates Star Trek quotes to counter or emphasize his points.

[@tureytaino2785]

Oh, he loves Tuvok.

[@bencurran3204]

Seriously tho, if starfleet stumbled across this it would've just made dead space look like a joke as a vulcan walking up to it with a tricorder would literally just go, hmm this is bad, and makes me feel negativity, we should destroy this immediately and put anyone with irregular mental states into the medbay and therapy for a while

[@Mikki-Moo]

Honestly, "The glowy red rock made me do it" sounds like a good excuse for anything

[@ElBandito]

Nowadays: "Red hat made me do it."

[@rathalos1511]

Ain't that half the DS plot?..

[@mrbigglezworth42]

To stupid to win? Brother, the Unitologists effectively DID win by DS3 against Earthgov. They managed to successfully overthrow the government and start up necromorph outbreaks all across human controlled space. They completely achieved all their goals. By the time the game starts, they’ve already won.

[@marcosbradanovic9100]

altman be praised

[@sb17899]

I guess some people think "dying" equals losing, but that doesn't really add up when you take the entire goal of Unitologists boils down to them wanting to be made whole, and dying is first step of the process. So yeah, they're basically destined to win in the end.

[@DarkAtHearts]

I live for this series. I don't care how long each episode takes to come out. Each one is the highest quality of diamond. And this God of a man starts naming off all the villains lol love it

[@Smartass012]

Scientology is Just like Diminion voting system

[@goat369]

Fax

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

@@Smartass012 dafuq

[@boy2marine11]

This.

[@winterkats]

I can't stop laughing when he expose their stupidity and the sarcasm he uses is beyond anything I could master.

[@mongooseunleashed]

Man, there's being a Zealot and then there's Unitoligy. You can only delude yourself so much when aliens are ripping your face off.

[@colboy1fish]

I mean unitoligist have basicly had their brains microwaved for an extended amount of time so it isn't hard to believe they aren't 100% there.

[@osets2117]

Only those intelligent enough and with enough will (Isaac and Carver, along with Ellie she seems to have had zero adverse effects despite being around the markers for a really long time, seriously how has she not been tested by the markers?) are capable of resisting

[@razzamatronic9882]

@@osets2117 Roanoke Gaming has a really good video or two about why Ellie seems to be resistant.

[@osets2117]

@@razzamatronic9882 I think I saw that video, something to do with her fake eye?

[@razzamatronic9882]

@@osets2117 something to do with genetics

[@Ulfa228]

Altman, a man that tried stopping the marker only to become a symbol for it.

[@dr1742]

Keep in mind that in Dead Space, if you go all the way to 3 you discover that EVERYTHING has been mechanized by the hyper powerful, psyonic, Brotheren Moons who are the result of the markers obtaining the combined "life" and "knowledge" of everything wiped out and drawn together into the original marker. They mentally control EVERYTHING transformed or intelligent one way or another. Even the protagonist trying to destroy them is part of the plan of the Brotheren Moons. Dead Space is pretty sick and pretty much identifies the birth and destruction of humanity and other life for the furthering of the Brotheren Moons' existence and domination of the universe.

[@rathalos1511]

Yep, but the moons do hide in the dark corners of space, when not called by a new one, so they're not that top dog.

[@dr1742]

@@rathalos1511 If they aren't I'd like to see what is. At the end of 3 we see Brethren Moons everywhere and learn that they have consumed nearly all life in multiple galaxies and travel everywhere repeating the same thing. If something is more powerful, that would truly be terrifying.

[@Holuunderbeere]

​@@dr1742 I read in a comment some days ago that dead space 4 would hint at another alien species fighting with the brethren moons

[@dr1742]

@@Holuunderbeere If something is capable of fighting against the force that has completely dominated a major portion of it's universe, it would be interesting to see how they do that with the established DS lore. Nothing seems powerful enough in DS to compete with the BMs. Even if it was, how would it be able to defeat them and be contained since the BMs have spread everywhere in their universe?

[@Holuunderbeere]

@@dr1742 maybe a race that is capable of resisting the marker/moon corruption

[@lnomsim2]

Techincally, the church isn't wrong, if their belief is that all humanity has to die to form a single consciousness, that's kind of what happens. Even if the single consciousness isn't human. But there are always parts of the sacred scriptures that are lost in translation. Oops.

[@rathalos1511]

Though their cult is based on official borrowed verses about "we will all ascend", and not be reduced to body parts of a marker. But then again, it wouldn't be a classic cult if the info was public...

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

1:09 honestly that’d be a cool lense to explore dead space through. I never considered the ramifications of planet harvesting given how I don’t recall any of those planets having life. But in retrospect it does seem absurdly overkill for a civilization that doesn’t even control the entire galaxy, markers being a defence mechanism over the greed of sentient life kinda reminds me of hoe xenomorphs were interpreted in a few comics!

[@planescaped]

I love Dead Space, though the whole planet cracking/resource shortages part of the story always made me scratch my head. Considering the nigh-inexhaustible amount of resources in just a freaking asteroid, there is no logical reason why an FTL capable civilization should or even could have resource problems. If the writers are getting fundamentals that basic wrong, it's generally a bad sign... You can't have interstellar travel and resource shortages, it doesn't make sense and moreso just demonstrates that the writer doesn't actually understand the scale of space, or more likely, just doesn't care and is doing it to benefit the story. Hence why sci-fi stories tend to base it around macguffinite and unobtainium(lol). Dead Space based it around general resources though...

[@LordRydag]

@@planescaped have you considered that any easy to capture asteroids have been harvested. Cracking planets is illigal but it's much more lucrative because there are unlined planets much closer then unmined asteroids.

[@planescaped]

@@LordRydag It would take millions, possibly billions of years to harvest all the asteroids. Space is... kinda big...

[@LordRydag]

@@planescaped I didn't say all of them, I said the ones that are easy or valuable. At some point planet cracking become more profitable.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@LordRydag I highly doubt that, we’ve already detected some asteroids that contain more ore’s than humanity has ever mined in its existence, others that are jam packed with water. A few of those should’ve had humanity set for a good while even if they had fully colonized several planets, said colonization efforts seem relatively small from what I remember in the franchise. The absurd amount of power it would take in comparison to destroy a planet seems counter efficient.

[@TriTomMaximum]

The Brother Moons should also be on the list. Step 1: Make a pillar that can alter the evolutionary track of life forms to be super intelligent Step 2: Chunk that shit as hard as possible to random planets and pray they land somewhere with life Step 3: Marker lands on planets and sometimes kill everything from the impact alone (lol oops) Step 4: Make whatever living species into smart space travelers Step 5: Once species is smart enough for space travel, make them crazy enough to kill each other around Marker to create vessels for Convergence Step 6: While making signals that can create illusions that can drive people insane but can also give people illusions that want to destroy the Marker (Oh wait, that's counterproductive isn't it?) Step 7: Make the Marker able to scan how much life around it to ensure it has what it needs to begin Convergence. But still send out a signal 24/7 regardless of how much organic life is around so it will attempt to make a Brother Moon with the combined mass of a few thousand ship mates instead of billions, and wound up creating a giant murder noodle instead of an intelligent moon. Step 8: Make sure that the new Moon will make up the combined intelligence of the dominant race while also being made up of multiple animal based lifeforms that could also corrupt the new Moon's GPA. Step 9: Manage to create another giant floating meatball so you don't feel like the only floating meatball in the universe that ultimately isn't as smart as you because its makeup is much more corrupt than yours and the alien species didn't have enough time to get as smart as yours. Step 10: Forget Convergence all together and just eat lifeforms on whatever planet you come across because creating giant sentient meatballs is just too much work.

[@slimjim877]

Say what you like about Danik, but you can't deny that Simon Templeman did an amazing job voicing him

[@propheci]

It's super jarring to hear his voice in anything non-legacy of Kain related...

[@patrickpugh7495]

​@@propheci funnily I know him more as Loghain from Dragon Age instead of Kain

[@FuckGuidelines]

Danik gave off harrrd Vector vibes from despicable me.

[@wolfknight8671]

I thought you went out for smokes like my dad 17 years ago. Im happier to see you back tho

[@jakubnieoczym7600]

Exactly!! Had the same in mind

[@RussianPrimeMinister]

Oh crap, I never thought I'd see you again. Stay here, I"ll be right back. Gotta grab some smokes.

[@jerrjohnpresti]

yeeeshhhh

[@Ralndrath]

It seems that they made Unitology stupid on purpose rather than a villain that's meant to be intelligent but acts stupid. A sign of a well-written villain in my eyes.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Fair point. Too often, the bad guys are depicted as nigh-omnipotent super-geniuses. But as the fiction of John Le Carre and Bill Granger make plain, being evil makes one no more immune to the same prejudice, stupidity and outright delusions the rest of us suffer from.

[@That80sGuy1972]

Yep... and a perfect amalgam of theocratic historical power-houses.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@That80sGuy1972 to be fair thats true for all dead space faction the independant colonies are obvious soviet analouges with all the awefull horror of blind idealogical fanatsicm that brings while Earth gov is a depiction of the worst parts of modern western goverments overblown beucracy lazy and stubborn to a fault. i guess that is a big point for dead space that this was humanity at its worst in a realistic way of repeating the pasts mistakes over and over again be it idealogy or religion or are inner hedonistic lazyness where humanity likely would have destroyed itself had the brethern moons never arrived. and i mean "destroyed" in the warhammer 40k sense where the central goverments collapse and humanity spreads threwout the galaxy and with no connection to each other slowy diverge into entirely diffrent species.

[@That80sGuy1972]

@@wilmagregg3131 That... that I cannot argue with. I can't even bounce into a "Devil's Advocate" side on this as a pondering thing. I think you solved this riddle, my friend.

[@Zaprozhan]

@@wilmagregg3131 Well said. I'd say humanity can be stupidly self-destructive and ignorant, and alien shit makes it happen faster.

[@justicetaylor3050]

In defense of Unitology, the marker is successful in sabotaging humanity through it to an extent. Making you into suicidal food is specifically the intent of the Marker. (I haven't watched the vid, I just feel like the church's actions in Deadspace 3 are consistent with the premis of the Markers purpose and that the hero's plot armor doesn't devalue said purpose.)

[@TwiggyShei]

Everyone: "Unitologists are too stupid to win" *Series ends with the Unitologists getting everything they wanted* Surprised Pikachu

[@emetanti]

They themself really are too stupid to win, but the Brethren Moons aren´t.

[@jbpiano5313]

That just means we were stupidier than them

[@CiKSON]

There's one problem with this video... The unitologists did win. Their goal was convergence, and ultimately the moons found earth and death was absolute. The overall theme of Dead Space is the end of humanity

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

Except not really since earth isn't the only place humanity occupied and it was confirmed that the moons would be defeated though something worse would have been unleashed after which is a separate can of worms.

[@CiKSON]

@@AxisChurchDevotee Where was this confirmed?

[@nahuelleandroarroyo]

Those moons are all nice and fancy till someone decides to nuke them

[@CiKSON]

@@HelghastStalker I'm not sure that counts since that was never published/officially established into the canon

[@lazerhosen]

You missed the other problem of the video: the way he keeps pronouncing Isaac as "Eye Zak"

[@svagglaorde4387]

If you want another cult like villain on the list, may I suggest the Brotherhood of Nod from the Command and Conquer Tiberium games.

[@tureytaino2785]

If you include CNC4 then Kane won, if you do not include it then he lost.

[@codyraugh6599]

Idk Brotherhood of Nod seem rather smart...even ignoring that one game that doesn't exist, the Brotherhood even with a higher leadership more unstable than any Communist state following the death of their leader, they're successful under a "One world Government" and they develop tech at a absurd rate even before the introduction of the Tacitus.

[@commissarkordoshky219]

The problem is that there isn't really enough material for a video of any kind on NOD quasi-religion because the lore is never expanded to such a level for it to be clarified. But a video on how Kane REALLY needs new friends could be made >_>

[@AbstractTraitorHero]

"Perhaps the destruction of the notion that humanity was ever an intelligent species" You earned that like my friend, laughed out loud, love you.

[@VioletAeonSnowfield]

The Unitologists did way worse that cause the extinction of humanity - they cause the extinction of life as a whole. Like, the title of the series hints at the fact that any life that might have existed is already dead; destroyed by the Brethren Moons already but if any species had managed to survive until now or was outside of the reach of the network the Unitologists deactivating the machine and reconnecting the network would've doomed them all as well. The capabilities of the moons are unknown to us, it's entirely possible they're capable of spreading out beyond just our galaxy, perhaps even beyond our local network.

[@RadiantMantra]

I'll never forgive EA for dissolving Visceral Games and messing with the series. Then again, we can't ever expect anything good from EA.

[@user-mu8dm4rk7g]

The series has been reborn! Returned to its former glory!

[@valance10]

​@@user-mu8dm4rk7g no it hasn't

[@ericjohnson7234]

what else do you expect from corporations, that they will spend your money wislely?

[@vvbr2372]

Mix space with zealots and you always get some horror stuff going

[@SaurusWarriorSotek]

Mix zealots with anything at any point of human history and you get horrorific results.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@SaurusWarriorSotek And never forget, children, that zealotry means more than just religion or cults. Anyone following a philosophy, credo or politics to the exclusion of provable fact is by definition a fanatic.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@HelghastStalker Thank you for presenting me with an appropriate example of fanaticism with that self-owning post. The cooperation of my enemies is always appreciated.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@HelghastStalker The more you talk, the more you reveal yourself. With the knowledge that I am risking the same, let me just say that the current incarnation of the folks you highlighted are no threat. At best, they're self-saboteurs. At worst, they're meaningless annoyances. You, on the other hand...I question your ability to recognize a genuine threat, especially if it's something you hold near and dear (as is true of anti-vaxxers and Trump cultists). If you'd care to refute that claim, now is the time.

[@kavky]

@@johnathonhaney8291 Were you twirling your moustache when you wrote that?

[@gamingmoth4542]

I can think of a few interesting civilizations to do videos on… But I would say that the Combine Empire from Half Life is an example of an oppressive civilization that actually does what they do right (not that they are good, but they are just really effective at being bad).

[@planescaped]

That's true, for a spin off series of bad-guys who are really good at being bad, the Combine would have to be at the top of that list. They're written to be a legit insurmountable force that is truly alien in their thoughts and actions. To them humans are cells in a greater being, and cells need to function or be 'sterilized, cauterized, terminate.' The situation for humans in Half Life is incredibly bleak.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@planescaped i do wish wed finally get a overview of what there civilization actually is like we know what they do we know there methods we know they have conquered species across multiple universes but we dont know what the combine really IS. like are they a hivemind? are they a species subjegated under a hyper inteligent ai network? are the ambassadors the actually leaders of the combine? and if so what kind of goverment are they actually?. so many intresting questions cause when you look back on it the games really dont tell you ANYTHING about what the combine actually is all the detail is about there local forces on earth and there methods more then anything.

[@gamingmoth4542]

@@wilmagregg3131 well… Maybe he won’t be able to discuss the Combine as a whole, but he could more than likely discuss the Overwatch (the force the combine created to help them rule over earth). Overwatch coordinates the Metro Cops, Combine Soldiers, Nova Prospect Prison and basically all of the Combine presence on Earth. I’d say “Overwatch” is quite a fitting name since they are incredibly all knowing and oppressive as an organization.

[@planescaped]

@@wilmagregg3131 Probably for the best they keep details vague. Makes it more mysterious and interesting. Sometimes not knowing is better.

[@friget234]

Finding this series in about October of last year played a huge role in helping me get through a really difficult time in my life so to see it still going with just as high quality as ever fills me with joy. I'm not normally a huge fan of these sort of satirical breakdowns of stories (I've never been a big fan of 'Cinema Sins' and the like) but something about your narration and writing has me loving every episode. Well, that and Tuvok. There really is no limit to relevant Tuvok clips is there? I guess I never realized how many roasts he had in Voyager. Keep up the good work!

[@kieranhurst8543]

Thats pathetic dude

[@DinsRune]

@@kieranhurst8543 no, what's pathetic is putting people down like that.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

“The truth is harder to hear then the lies that are being told.”-David Hacking-Bonilla My personal quote hits the nail on the head when it comes to cults of all type or any form and Unitology is one of those cults that should’ve been outed a long time ago for their rhetoric falsehoods. Just goes to show that humanity can reached new levels of low even to the point of madness.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Go you one better with this gem from Phillip K Dick: "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

@@johnathonhaney8291 That is a good one and there are many purposes for a quote and one of them is to help future generations to remember the past.

[@orxy5316]

I mean considering modern life, i am sold on Necromorph hive mind unification

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

Only thing is that the Church’s whole philosophy is based on pure propaganda and falsehood. Not to mention that the truth is that once you are a infected your being controlled by the marker and that your whole being is nothing more then an empty husk. Not to mention that in real life we are not so easily suede into worshiping a group of morons like Unitology or Scientology for that matter. Because we have something called individuality and that is what Issac is in the games he saw the truth and he knew that he had to stop it because humanity in dead space were too gullible to see it before it was too late.

[@bennygerow]

This is not deep in any way. Attractive lies told to appease, manipulate, or mask nefarious intentions are everywhere and commonplace. I guess it's great that it's super important to you though.

[@noneedtoknow07]

Earthgov leader 1: So we got these ancient alien artifacts that cause people to go insane, and/or turning into grotesque monsters where. Should we put the labs? Earthgov leader 2: Right in the middle of our population center's where those nutjob's from the church could easily get at them! Eathgov Leader 1: Great idea, I'll sign off on the funding for it right away!

[@Spartan135]

In a real world:Mankind throws nukes at the marker until it stops existing.

[@rathalos1511]

Well the untiology cult did buy itself a spaceshit armada and gov influence. So maybe they'll come anyway?..

[@civilwarfare101]

I know you are not super big on Danik, but I found him to be the best villain in the series mainly because well, he did actual villain things instead of just sitting behind somewhere spewing cult stuff or screaming at you through a monitor. He was proactive at least. Simon Templeman also helped too. He was one of the more memorable things about Dead Space 3. Him and when you crashed landed on the planet for the first time.

[@emberedfox223]

My problem with Danik is he monologues way to much every time Issac meets him he has him at gun point and is ready to kill him 3 times instead he just talks to him about how great Unitology is and mankind's ascension before messing up the kill. Honestly Nolan was a better villian because he's the reason Issac is thrown into the events of 3, why Danik got to Tau Volantis, and why Danik almost kills Issac the second time because he was jealous of Issac.

[@angelofthedead1886]

Danik looks like Austin Powers or Elton John and inspired by a jonestown cult leader Jim Jones.

[@KalashVodka175]

@@emberedfox223 I think the reason for danik’s monologues (beyond just the plot needing to save isaac) is Danik seems to constantly need to self justify his actions, as if he himself was not 100% convinced by the own lies he made himself believe in.

[@emberedfox223]

@@KalashVodka175 I can agree with that but does change that he does it to much.

[@1337ijs]

His Facts speech lives rent free in my head, because its such good characterization/explanation of his character. He lists a bunch of objective facts about the Markers and how they affect human life. Facts that can be understandably interpreted in two specific ways. There's Danik's way; that the Markers are evidence of a greater power than humanity in the wider cosmos, and that we are meant to be used as a part of something beyond our understanding, by the transformative tool of this greater power that built this actually species-altering artifact. The Markers are not quite necessarily divine, but they are undeniably evidence of alien life far in advance of humanity, and its better for us to accept whatever that older, more powerful life clearly intends for us than to resist it. Then there's the way Isaac, Carver, and Eli interpret these facts: that the Markers are evidence/relics of some greater alien intelligence that is CLEARLY hostile and does not have humanity's best interests in mind, so resisting and destroying their tools and servants is the only logical course of action. Danik explains his reasoning so perfectly that his conclusions and beliefs seem reasonable until you remember that he's violently advocating for species-wide space zombification, and that he can make that seem even briefly reasonable is a triumph of villain characterization imo.

[@tubalord3693]

If you think about it their entire religion was created by the black markers in the first place so going by the third games DLC they did win but not in the way they were hoping Also every marker We see in all of Dead space where all man-made and the original black marker technically created us so it’s more of a cosmic horror then a we were the bad guys all along story

[@TheSkepticalPanda]

The greatest villain in this saga is EA, who cannibalizes studios like Visceral. They’re even doing a remake now that they need a hype project to boost their stock price. Oh, uhh I mean they love games and they love gamers too guys!

[@alexwalker3229]

7:30 the freaking "I can prove it" killed me so bad

[@DauthEldrvaria]

“Hey ya know the giant stone thing that turns people into bladed monsters?” “Yea” “Bring that shit back to earth” “But it’ll turn peopl-” “Don’t worry about that we will figure that out when we get to earth!!” “Uhhhhhh…”

[@loturzelrestaurant]

Jokes on Media-Zealot here, cause this Church literally just Won in Real-Life.

[@PnzrDiv666]

There is no Dead Space reboot on the horizon. Just a HD remake.

[@orangecat504]

Could we see Dead Space 4 or more remakes?

[@vasilybullock7967]

This guy seems to know alot about how to run a civilisation, we should elect him as our new leader.

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

They say one of the best ways to learn something is to watch others fail at it first.

[@warandconquest6522]

Ah the Dead Space franchise. It’s what happens when you cross resident evil with the Fermi Paradox

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Really? I thought it was more what happens when Silent Hill goes to space.

[@Ergeniz]

@@johnathonhaney8291 Both wrong. Its RE4 + the thing. They flat out said as such in interviews

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@Ergeniz Dead Space 2, however, DOES have that Silent Hill vibe: mundane settings overtaken by monsters, weird cults, horrific visions, a protagonist suffering from visions and going into other dimensions.

[@Ergeniz]

@@johnathonhaney8291 I don't deny those similarities. But the team did openly state what their primary inspirations were.

[@civilwarfare101]

Do the Templars from the Assassin's Creed franchise. They are so easy to make fun of. And the Covenant from Halo too since you mentioned that series.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Those would be fun! I’d also suggest: the skeksis from dark crystal The reapers from mass effect Ingen from jurassic park

[@0valeyes]

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Me I go with Hinobi from Glitch techs for starters and maybe if their more then enough Hera from God school.

[@Etaoinshrdlu69]

Walking around in medieval hoods during the Victorian age. Ngmi.

[@carlosdgutierrez6570]

The imperium of Mankind

[@Coid]

@@carlosdgutierrez6570 Just about every faction in 40K is made of villains too stupid to win.

[@TobeWilsonNetwork]

Never stop with the Tuvok clips, it’s the heart of the series

[@theramblingexile2498]

Mendicant Bias from the Halo background lore would be a good one. Supposedly incredibly intelligent AI that was convinced that an all consuming life form that’s whole goal was to keep infecting and eating until nothing left was the next step in galactic evolution. They even admitted they fucked up later on, admittedly after getting it’s ass kicked by an “inferior” AI.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

That’s Religion for ya! Hence why I support the minecraft-creeper outta atheist-channels!

[@iamdream2562]

@@loturzelrestaurant I... what? What does that have to do with Halo Forerunner A.I.? Lmao

[@iamdream2562]

I disagree, it isn't really an example of a "too stupid" civilization or villain. Mendicant Bias was hypercompetent, it's just that the flood keymind potentially has knowledge predating the entire universe lmao.

[@theramblingexile2498]

@@iamdream2562 Fair but still in my opinion something that intelligent would be able to realize something like the flood would inevitably lead to stagnation incarnate at best and complete extermination of life within the galaxy at worse. Regardless of what was argued, that cannot be changed honestly.

[@carloszestyboy2901]

Mendicant Bias didn’t initially believe that the flood was the final step in evolution. It was infected with the logic plague by the primordial and had its intelligence overwhelmed by something that has billions of years of cosmic knowledge. The flood are theorized to be every bit as much a physical embodiment of the living universe as the precursors themselves and given that they can infect the fabric of space-time itself, I don’t think twisting the thought process of an AI even as powerful as MB is out of the realm of possibility at all. Also, Offensive Bias was only marginally less in creativity and independence than Mendicant Bias, still being a contender-class AI. OB was also specifically designed to be far more methodical than MB and was created for the sole purpose of countering MB’s rampancy so it makes perfect sense that it was able to delay it.

[@SurelyYewJest]

"...kooky alien cult, sorry, religion that also ends in 'tology'" Best line.

[@zeporion6091]

I'm going on just the title here but the Church of Unitology won in pretty much every way you can imagine. They became the most populous human religion in the Dead Space universe and their goal of bringing about Convergence was how Dead Space 3 ended.

[@dkkanofkash8798]

I haven't watched the video yet, but here's the thing about the Dead Space universe. Everything that humanity is in it, and everything that exists because of humanity, ships, colonies, organizations, are the results of the Black Marker's influence. Had it not been the Church of Unitology, it would have been some other organization that would bring about humanity's end, even if they would have been more efficient at it than Unitologists were. Everything went according to plan on the Black Marker's end, no matter how stupid everything that happened could have seemed.

[@jonahrotondo5817]

I hope the Church of unitology is happy with themselves They just created the end of humanity

[@abbiedoobie]

Event Horizon is also clearly an inspiration for Dead Space as a whole. Like a major inspiration; watch it if you love the games, it's a pretty good flick!

[@aelius3805]

Dead Space in a nutshell: "We can make a religion out of this" "No don't." "How bout I do, anyway?"

[@thedankswordsmantm]

That's fitting considering a secret group of members in EartGov created Unitology to use as an unknowing puppet-army of fanatics for anything EarthGov needs done pertaining to the marker.

[@will.roman-ros]

I feel like all this lore just makes it more horrific. It makes Isaac more isolated and in danger - where even his human brethren are wanting to spread the grotesque creatures.

[@EvIlducky5]

So if I join your church I won't die? "Oh no, you'll still die, just quicker."

[@juanisol8275]

"If religion were true, its followers would not try to bludgeon their young into an artificial conformity; but would merely insist on their unbending quest for truth, irrespective of artificial backgrounds or practical consequences." H. P. Lovecraft

[@johnathonhaney8291]

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."--Phillip K Dick

[@mecurian485]

Suppose... suppose we have only dreamed and made up these things like sun, sky, stars, and moon, and Aslan himself. In that case, it seems to me that the made-up things are a good deal better than the real ones. And if this black pits of a kingdom is the best you can make, then it's a poor world. And we four can make a dream world to lick your real one hollow" CS Lewis, The Silver Chair

[@casbot71]

There was a hilarious episode of the very grim serial killer profiler series and X Files spin off *Millennium,* with a crazed killer from a religious cult called *Selfosophy,* based around self help books from a failed Detective Novel author who was briefly institutionalized. [Jose Chung's Doomsday Defence] It includes this brilliant quote. *Peter Watts [when he's informed the suspected killer is a Selfosophist]:* Selfosophy? No, Frank. No, no, no, no. *Frank Black:* What is going on, Peter? We've never backed away from anything. Why, we've even looked at evil incarnate. *Peter Watts:* Evil incarnate _can't sue._

[@colmoe]

I've proposed it before and I'll do it again The Fire Nation/Fire Lord Ozai -Giant useless engineering projects: --a drill against *earthbenders*, all they have to do is dig trenches around it and itll get stuck, or wall up after it tunnels past --balloons that go pop --giant zeppelins that move 1 mile a year -Instead of waiting to launch a coordinated strike on the Water Tribes, Ba Sing Se, and Omashu on Sozin's Comet (which is a massive bonus to firebending), they attack in piecemeal -Ozai starts his torching campaign in the far northwest, which is in the Colonies. He could've had a staging ground near Ba Sing Se. Or anywhere else. -The Fire Nation's possession of cannons. They could field hand-cannons in all their armies and absolutely negate any bending maluses (nighttime, winter conditions, eclipses), in addition to one-shotting enemy master benders. No longer would bending mastery be needed. -They seem to have the technology for an air force (Korra's weird mashup of techs don't count). This would give them absolute superiority in all engagements. -Then there's the whole "can't kill the Avatar" even though, if they do, at best the Avatar is a threat in ten years' time (the Comet meanwhile comes in a few months) I haven't even gotten to Ozai's character or his plan. Needless to say the man would give any Villains on this list a run for his money.

[@Sorain1]

"-The Fire Nation's possession of cannons. They could field hand-cannons in all their armies and absolutely negate any bending maluses (nighttime, winter conditions, eclipses), in addition to one-shotting enemy master benders. No longer would bending mastery be needed. " See, that one makes sense to me. It'd make the top leadership lose a big chunk of their power, so I actually understand why they'd avoid any kind of man portable cannon type weapon. Not that it wouldn't eventually come anyway, just I can see why they're doing it.

[@MrNickPresley]

Don’t think of this as a call out. This is merely a counterpoint to your arguments. - Ba Sing Se was compromised from within, meaning they couldn’t mount a defense against the giant drill fast enough. The point about its design flaws stands, however. -No one else has balloons and zeppelins, and both the airbenders and sky bison are gone. That’s aerial superiority, even if it takes forever to deploy them. - The sheer logistics of launching a global offensive prior to Sozin’s comet would take an astronomical amount of resources and man power- which the taking of other objectives prior will help with. - You have a point here. The man was power tripping pretty hard, and made a big tactical blunder. Should have started on population centers. - Another tactical blunder perhaps. Canons would’ve made a smart addition to their roster. It’s made somewhat excusable by their natural ability to throw fireballs and lightning- which only shorts out once every century or so. - They make decent use of their vehicles. They have an entire fleet of zeppelins that they use to basically glass a huge stretch of land (could’ve been the city they were trying to conquer, but oh well). They could have used it more, but I guess ground troops were easier to deploy? - That’s probably the most sensible solution to the Avatar problem, honestly. Not sure why they didn’t just do that. But the avatar wasn’t acting alone, and it’s possible they still could have fallen in that time.

[@latviandragon2718]

"Satanic Buddists" 🤣

[@Smartass012]

Know what scientology and Diminion voting system have income. They sue anyone who gives them lip

[@richardarriaga6271]

@@Smartass012 Embracing a rapist who hates blackness is in character for a redpiller.

[@richardarriaga6271]

@@Smartass012 South Park is fine and defamation lawsuits are hard to win, which is why Fox, OANN, etc really messed up by lying.

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

The brethren moons "warping" to Earth seems really dumb when Earth has its own moon and the game hinted at the Black Marker being responsible for killing the dinosaurs already. The Earth could have easily just been threatened by revealing our own moon was a Brethren Moon made out of dinosaurs. Could even have given us a new necromorph design or three for the final encounters.

[@Crazieyboy15]

Honestly, both are equally terrifying thoughts. One has our own moon be a living world of flesh that's waiting to consume us. The other has ancient beings far being human understanding arrive from the depths of space and their mere presence, even lightyears away, is enough to drive the humanity into madness and death.

[@njmfff]

How does the moon sneak up on you? No, wait, how do the MOONS sneak up on you? 😂

[@captainmartinwalker2848]

The Black Marker killed the dinosaurs when it hit the earth

[@osets2117]

@@njmfff I mean would you expect a moon size entity to come out of FTL?

[@phelps6205]

@@osets2117 HOW does a moon sized object made of organic material go FTL?

[@brute6896]

don't underestimate stupidity because a crowd of them they are unstoppable

[@cementchewer]

castle crashers and dead space is an interesting combination

[@tolkienist7905]

I'm not exactly sure how necromorphs could be considered a galactic immune response when they have existed for a millenia before humanity was a glint in the universes trousers but ok............

[@chickendrawsdogs3343]

The thing looks twisted and evil AF, and standing near it you can hear whispers that translate to "In Death we wait, our one true God.", and some dudes just went "This Marker our salvation!"

[@danielcummings8444]

“They’re inherently stupid and I can prove it” 😂

[@lordsnarkgrumpkinslayer9865]

Unitology is the study of unicycles...........and by "study" I of course mean worship.

[@planescaped]

To the cloister of balancing with you heathen!

[@xavierkazoo1619]

I'm fairly certain the games imply that the Markers affect sentient brains to put them under control of Marker influence. The Unitologists weren't just guessing and got lucky, the black Marker put images of itself in peoples heads basically as a way of saying "Hey, keep an eye out for me, because if you find me something REALLY good will happen!" At least that's what I pieced together from the two games I half played. Dead Space is too scary for me.

[@reaperreaper5098]

Unitologists know what the marker looks like because it was discovered on Earth, with the govt. trying to cover it up, and Altman trying to expose the marker as bad news bears (which would get misconstrued by Unitology due to the cover up). There's some of it hinted in the games, but the book Dead Space: Martyr is the explicit story of Michael Altman and the discovery of the marker.

[@Torlik11]

It may be stupid, I agree on that, but I wouldn't call it unrealistic. We have a lot of examples of people believing crazy things, rationalising belief that are clearly false and dangerous for them, falling for death cults, etc. If a thing like the markers could exist, I wouldn't be surprised to see that kind of cult appear.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

That’s Religion for ya! Hence why I support the fluff outta atheist-channels!

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@loturzelrestaurant They have their own delusions they traffic in, basic variations on the thing they claim to oppose. None of it will protect you any more than the religious tripe will.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

I've had this notion of the Cthulhu Cult being a good stand-in for white supremacists if handled in the right way for a 21st Century updating. The nihilistic bent of the latter would dovetail with the former.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@johnathonhaney8291 Who? Atheist-KZbinr? Haha, no, thats just a Myth you heard and believed. They are actually very valid and worth watching.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@loturzelrestaurant Very cute of you to assume that. The part where I've supposedly heard of the guy you're talking about was particularly priceless. Probing into atheism's core, I've concluded that it's a philosophy in denial of how life experience actually works and a useful tool for status quo maintenance. I much prefer the far deeper thoughts of Bernardo Kastrup, whose theses grapple with the "hard problem of consciousness" atheism routinely handwaves..

[@tnecniw]

I am still quite sure the ending of the awakening DLC is an hallucination. Because there is NO WAY IN HELL that the moons got to Earth before isaac and Clarke did. NOPE, 100% NOPE.

[@Leo-zm8ql]

The most ridiculous thing in Dead space is that any interstellar species would have to resort to the marker for resources/energy.

[@Lunk42]

The lore for dead space was so damn good. I'll never forgive EA for taking this series away from us before it could be properly concluded.

[@friendlyreaper9012]

All because of ladders and combat rolls. Same with mass effect.

[@realname8362]

I don't think the current ending is that bad, I can't really see an ending where humanity survives that doesn't rely on some pretty ridiculous asspulls.

[@khajaazharuddinsiddiqui4844]

If I remember correctly, you can denie that crazy doctor from becoming a Necromorph.

[@ctdaniels7049]

9:07 I love when the physics engine decides the necromorph claw is gonna boop your bellybutton

[@loturzelrestaurant]

Jokes on Media-Zealot here, cause this Church literally just Won in Real-Life.

[@ericthomas6726]

How I summarize this series: humans prefer using obelisks of unknown alien origin that turns them into monsters to power their society over nuclear power.

[@BordeauxFalinks]

Media zealot is kind of channel you don’t follow all that much but when he uploads you instantly C L I C K. Fucking love your content.

[@mistersomaru]

Still waiting for the BT (BattleTech) universe to be covered in one of your videos, where a chunk of the galaxy nuked each other so hard they were reduced to a feudalistic society that values old hard to repair mechs used as knights more than human life. And that was just the techbase level 1 storyline when the franchise was originally created!

[@StoneWeevil]

Alien Tech: (mutates humanity into hideous monstrous feral creatures) Idiots: "Is this the logical next evolution of humanity??"

[@mileator]

I haven't started the video yet but the unitologist in Dead Space 3 always made me laugh. That shit was hilarious.

[@eren34558]

First a good TurboTax ad? Now this? I can go to sleep happy

[@CPL.van7]

This is precisely how we feel about Scientology. 🤣

[@wakeangel2001]

Gotta give you mad props for a Sealab 2021 reference. If I were to interpret what these "Markers" are, I'd say they seem to look like a Von Neuman machine crossed with the "gray goo scenario." Both are usually related to nanotechnology, the VN machine simply is a machine that makes copies of itself using local resources to spread itself around, and in the gray goo scenario those machines consume all available resources until they cover the entire surface of a planet, eventually they can even consume the entire mass of a planet. I never played these games or watched a series based on them, but I'm curious, did anyone think to try and reprogram the Marker? I mean, if the Marker is able to alter an organism's behavior and biology, if you could figure out how its operating system works you could in theory use it to make yourself immortal, gain superhuman abilities, even alter your body almost any way you want right? Instead of becoming a zombie with knives for hands what if you became an immortal supermodel with wings or something?

[@richardarriaga6271]

In the first one, scientists reprogram the marker, but they aren't around to share their knowledge. When Isaac tries to destroy it by crashing a ship in to it, it winds up going back to its old behavior per the animation shorts. He learns in the second game you need a shockpoint detonation to destroy them (like a warp-core breach for their universe).

[@pubz9456]

Altman was actually trying to destroy the marker after he found out how bad it was but the church had him killed and covered it up all as some sort of sacrifice to further push and validate their religious beliefs.

[@StarShipGray]

Unitology is the marketing department approved name for CoupAnon.

[@gilgamesh310]

Dead Space involves the Fermi paradox, which could be seen to mean humans are ultimately too stupid to win.

[@skepticalmagos_101]

No... it means that the great fliter in Deadspace are the brethren moons nom noming on entire civilizations. And nobody in our galaxy has managed to survive them yet.

[@TheAngryXenite]

@@skepticalmagos_101 Hence, "Dead Space."

[@strikeforce1500]

Can't wait for the "Advance civilization too stupid to exist: Dead Space's EarthGov". From not looking for other forms to create easily accessible power, that doesn't involve turning the workers into zombies, to loosing to Unintologist so easily

[@deepseastonecore3017]

How often do l make jokes about chemistry? Periodically.

[@evanbasham4875]

The scariest thing is...the Unitologists ACTUALLY FUCKING WIN! Their ultimate goal is complete at the end of 3.

[@Turahk]

They win tho, just not in the way they expected.

[@wonderfulwonderful8543]

Every perfectly timed Star Trek clip is just gold

[@madscientistgamingcentral8689]

In the early part of the vid a main reason for humanity to want them is they also seemed to provide an unlimited amount of energy

[@dadbear5316]

I love being an engineer, free plot armor, kickass weapons, the ability to bullshit your way through nearly impossible odds. If you tell a good engineer they can't do something, they'll take it as a challenge.

[@Chasing_Cloudz]

Necromorph dinosaurs sounds freaking SICK!!

[@tanks4nuthin964]

OH THANK GOD I’m in the middle of a move and my computer has been taking forever to arrive in the mail so I have nothing to do. I’ve been DYING for new videos to watch to pass the time 😂 Love this channel, the religious nuts and corrupt government powers of Dead Space always pissed me off lol

[@IsaacClodfelter]

In all fairness planet cracking would be a very efficient way to gather resources however it would be equally incredibly dangerous. One miscalculation and you have planet scraps flying towards a home world or something similarly important.

[@kanebunce3791]

Given the insane energy requirements it would be far from efficient. EDIT: Fixed a typo.

[@bajscast]

It's mostly just weird because you'd break one planet and literally have all the materials you need for hundreds or thousands of years

[@Bladezeromus]

@@kanebunce3791 This is sci fi technology, man. And the operations are run by corpos so if it WASNT extremely efficient they wouldn't do it. Any sci-fi race that has achieved FTL more than likely has some sort of unobtainium power source powering their exotic tech. Also, "planet cracking" is a bit of a misnomer they don't just pull a piece of a planet out. They build a colony, built planet-side gravity tethers, dig that chunk of the planet out, then a ship comes and gets it. So it's a lot more like a crane with a magnetic head instead of claws or a clamp.

[@kanebunce3791]

@@Bladezeromus Sadly having sci-fi tech does not make these fictional societies use the most efficient means of doing things. Often they use inefficient means. Look at 24th century Starfleet using only force fields to imprison enemies/criminals when they should either use bars/walls or a combination of either and a force field. Solely using a forcefield is a bad idea ion case power goes down... and multiple Star trek episodes prove that.

[@IsaacClodfelter]

@@kanebunce3791 yeah, highly advanced civilizations in media very frequently will have the scientific capability to do everything they could ever want but ironically are not smart enough to think to do it in ways they can utilize their tech. Planet cracking for minerals is a good example. From what I have seen most of the time if a civilization is advanced enough to set up shop on a planet to mine it in half they would be advanced enough to exploit the plethora of resources in the asteroid belt or asteroids in general or advanced enough to unshackle themselves from the never ending cycle of resource consumption and production. But no, the frequently inhabited and far more hazardous planets are always the first choice. The markers never would have been found if these nerds went for asteroids instead of planets.

[@daneyal7162]

Something that I've been wondering about Captain Matthius is if his paranoia was completely because of The Marker's influence. With him being a strict unitologist, and all the pressure from the church to bring The Marker back to earth, and the colony members being slaughtered ever since the discovery of The Marker, I wonder if all the stress just got to him in the end, and he snapped on his own, without any marker stimulation...

[@louisduarte8763]

Is it just me, or does the bad guy from Dead Space 3 resemble Jim Jones, the founder of The People's Temple and the reason "drank the Kool-Aid" is a phrase? I expect a fully rational debate and discussion of religion and symbolism in the KZbin comments, said nobody ever.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

Now that you mention it...not just you. It's mostly the glasses and face shape that give it away.

[@timothyswanson8773]

I always found that phrase odd. They drank Flavoraid, not Kool-Aid.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

@@timothyswanson8773 Kool-Aid is the more accepted shorthand, like how most people will say Coke over Pepsi.

[@Lemon_Inspector]

Intellectual levels of KZbin comment enjoyers notwithstanding, I don't think anybody's going to indignantly defend Jim Jones. Maybe if you went to 4chan

[@kram9850]

BRO for real, dont disapear for another 3 months again, you leave me dying for more, literally have your videos on repeat thats how starved for your content we are