[Vinesauce] Vinny - Nintendo Game Prototypes

Vinny streams Nintendo Game Prototypes live on Vinesauce!
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00:01:33 Virus (Dr. Mario)
00:07:16 Super Mario Bros. 2
00:41:42 Air Fortress
00:45:46 Sound Fantasy
01:12:53 Special Tee Shot (Kirby's Dream Course)
1:24:46 Sim City (for the NES)
01:31:53 Yoshi's Cookie (for the SNES)
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[@vinesaucefullsauce]

00:01:33 Virus (Dr. Mario) 00:07:16 Super Mario Bros. 2 00:41:42 Air Fortress 00:45:46 Sound Fantasy 01:12:53 Special Tee Shot (Kirby's Dream Course) 1:24:46 Sim City (for the NES) 01:31:53 Yoshi's Cookie (for the SNES)

[@RoastCDuck]

Sim city 2000 for the snes was always the worst version of them all.. no matter how much you tried the city would always go down the toilet.. and music would eventually fail, no cheat codes and no graphic packs..

[@dynastylobster8957]

Why did you delete cooking simulator part 2?

[@vinesaucefullsauce]

The video got claimed because of a song in it, so I used the KZbin built in audio remover but it desynced the video horribly. And now I had to edit the video manually and reupload it.

[@dynastylobster8957]

@@vinesaucefullsauce *grateful chat noises*

[@TaxEvasionUS]

Thank you for Luigi 6:32

[@ronindebeatrice]

1:30:40 "Only two copies of this cartridge are known to exist." How fortunate for Vincent to have one of these very rare carts for play on his real Nintendo.

[@technomorph6798]

Hyperdrive Nintendo

[@kimgkomg]

With built in real time corrupter

[@cyrus2395]

I love when Vinny does these back-and-forths between Mario and Luigi, because I honestly forget those aren't scripted, and that it's still just Vinny doing the voices

[@TheMegaPingasMobile]

My hypothesis is that vinny just has the voice actors in his house and he gives them cues when they have to talk. If they don't vin will kick them to the streets and they have nowhere to go. They're probably just their normal conversations now that I think about it and vinny just opens their microphones whenever he hears the good stuff

[@morgankasper5227]

he needs to make more marioi and luigi videos

[@ultracyber4511]

They're way less frequent these days too, and that makes you appreciate it even more

[@ArmoredChocoboLPs]

“Only 2 cartridges exist” And THAT is why Roms are important!!

[@Badsy_the_Edgecat]

yeah! fuck collectors who refuse to dump extremely rare prototypes out of fear that itll 'lower the value'

[@renakunisaki]

You know what else lowers the value? When it rots away to nothing and is lost forever.

[@Badsy_the_Edgecat]

@@renakunisaki yeah absolutely! like. jesus. the existance of the rom on the internet in no way reduces the value of the physical object, because the physical object is still rare as all fuck!

[@Jamie-yp7qz]

This. Without emulation and ROM dumping, many of these protos would never be played by the public.

[@Badsy_the_Edgecat]

@@Jamie-yp7qz yeah! there was a recent red and blue prototype discovered that we only have backsprites from because the person who sourced it wouldnt release the full rom

[@Arcademan09]

I'm a game collector and I absolutely despise those jackasses who horde rare games and refuse to dump them because "it reduces the value". If I ever run into a rare game or prototype I'm dumping that shit online for everyone to see

[@cyrus2395]

Hell yeah

[@Arcademan09]

@@polocatfan the people who make money off selling "rare" games do not understand nor do they actually play the games themselves, they only see what the highest sale was and they go off that

[@lyleabner2475]

@@Arcademan09 have you ever found any super rare games

[@Arcademan09]

@@lyleabner2475 I have a few rare ones but nothing to brag about. Conker, Shantae on Gameboy, games with spelling errors on the box

[@g0lbez]

its really selfish and honestly hurts the game devs of these prototypes more. if i spent so long on something unreleased i'd love if people got to see it one day

[@MetalDeeds]

ACTUAL games from an alternate reality.

[@corazonfeathers8116]

You might even say... From a parallel universe.

[@Undeafeatedable]

This is the universe where SEGA won.

[@moritzzz1]

Unfinished reality it seems

[@dan_loeb]

sound factory is just beta sim tunes, so it came out on pc

[@brandonwilliams6119]

Undeafeatedable Holy Shit that alternate Universe lmao, I bet F-Zero would have plenty of Reps in Smash and Fire Emblem only has Marth.

[@solomonmuhammad4061]

13:57 Koji Kondo in 1988: So Miyamoto-San what should I do for the underground theme Miyamoto: Just do the original...but go HAM Kondo:..What Miyamoto: GO HAM

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

GO MAD, YEAH? GO ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY BONKERS, YEAH? GO FOOLISH

[@DeadweightAnbu]

@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN GO ABSOLUTELY MAD, BRUV

[@lonely.summers]

it’s insane i fucking love the drum loop hahah

[@michaelbullen3104]

ishh fahcken mentul m8

[@MetalSocks]

That proto-Mario 2 underground music though. That's a PHAT drum if I've ever heard one.

[@chadschmaltz9790]

I'm with Vinny that they should have kept the underground theme in the final version.

[@doodledangernoodle2517]

The final underground theme is bland and uninteresting. This prototype version is SO MUCH BETTER

[@Matteomax]

the music fuckin slaps compared to the droning looping music we got

[@nytrodioxide]

That drumbeat is a fucking BOP

[@honghoang1801]

drum THICC

[@WinEntity]

18:41 I really appreciate how Vinny saying "Doki-Doki" lines up perfectly with the music, TWICE IN A ROW.

[@VulpesHilarianus]

1:31:25 The whole thing of people hoarding these games and not releasing the ROMs comes down to two things: Being afraid, or being selfish. If you're afraid of lawyers coming after you, that's reasonable. Upload it anonymously in that case. But if you're selfish and just want to keep these prototypes to yourself, or just won't release them because you'll be unable claim credit for doing so, you are actively participating in the decay of these games and I am opposed to your actions. These are bits of history that need to be preserved. Some may contain coding methods that weren't viable back then, but may be now. Or may contain gameplay concepts that were forgotten, but can be expanded and finished. Or they may be an important link in someone's career or the history of a franchise. Some may just be simple interesting anomalies. If you keep these to yourself just because you're the only person who has them, you're a dick. There's no two ways about it. These carts, floppy disks, CDs, tapes, ZIP Drives, harddrives -- whatever physical storage media they are, they don't last forever. We all know that. And when those storage mediums die, and when your local backup you made fails, you've screwed everyone over. Uploading it onto the internet is the closest way we have right now of making infinite backups in order to preserve the game in case of catastrophe. If you oppose doing that, you're not a collector. You're a hoarder and a dick.

[@ButtonMasherReal]

Honestly, hoarding prototypes does nothing for anybody. You can claim that you have a rare prototype, but isn’t it better to claim that you not only found the rare prototype, but are the selfless hero who released it to the public?

[@kimgkomg]

The problem is that uploading them decreases the value of the original cart.

[@RadikAlice]

Couldn't agree more, it's hard not to antagonize private collectors when situations like the Monster Party one happen, which might be the fate of the Nintendo PlayStation..

[@ButtonMasherReal]

Dr. Peopers So? Were you planning on selling it anytime soon?

[@fratercontenduntocculta8161]

Give me free games reeeeeeeee

[@zacharyavakian1634]

Vinny's weird cartoon villain laugh at 24:31 is definitely a sound I'd never think i'd hear from him

[@catplayingapiano2799]

That laugh is rather common tbh

[@TehVulpez]

Pizza man turns into a jackal in Neapolitan Land

[@linkthepringlesman3951]

Birdo commiting sedoku is one of my favorite corruptions, specifically because nobody knew it would happen

[@dynastylobster8957]

I thought Sudoku was A math game of some sorts

[@ActionYakPolice]

it's a joke

[@RF-Ataraxia]

@@dynastylobster8957 ssssshhhhHHHHHHH

[@polunu]

@@dynastylobster8957 I thought sudoku was a math game of some sorts pour one out for me

[@9Sadness9]

That Sound Fantasy game is just filled with happiness. You can tell a lot of love was put into it.

[@LuigiBlood]

Let's hope the final version of that game gets around (yes, it exists, there are footage, and I don't mean SimTunes).

[@muqatil4224]

@@LuigiBlood holy shit I thought people forgot about simtunes

[@renakunisaki]

It's pretty amazing, can't believe it was cancelled.

[@trifsith]

Although Mario 2 is (of course) based on Doki Doki Panic, Doki Doki Panic itself was based on an abandoned Mario game. THAT'S the prototype I'd love to see.

[@RadikAlice]

I bang my head on my desk every time someone says "DDP = Mario 2, the end" It legit irritates me how common that is, despite being debunked _many years_ ago

[@ItsTheVioletQueen]

18:46 I love that him saying “Doki Doki Panic to this to Doki Doki Literature Club” goes to the music.

[@effluviah7544]

1:03:35 The way the bug compositions work remind me of how music boxes work, this is an incredible game-- Sad that it was cancelled, but I'm glad to see it played here! :)

[@alanbareiro6806]

27:30 Decapitated Luigi in the background. Vinny: "ALMOST NORMAL"

[@jamesbryan558]

Is it just me or did the music at 39:50 sound like Cave Story music?

[@Boooo]

Straight up sounded the the title screen music yeah.

[@PermaBan]

I thought it was a couple times when he corrupted the game

[@Lucas-db2jq]

I hope that one day, the prototype of MOTHER 3 (EarthBound 64) will be playable in some way like these are. Even if it is the most basic of alphas, just a glimpse into what it could have been so we can put Leder's laments to an end.

[@georgewilson7432]

I have started playing Earthbound recently, and I can ser why people are obsessed with the game. It's great.

[@poralium196]

Wasn't it revealed recently that there was a playable demo somewhere at some point? I swear I heard of this somewhere not too long ago

[@RadikAlice]

@@poralium196 Yes there was, which came with the reveal of new footage

[@mightBeAtomic]

Every day I think about that fabled spaceworld demo and cry a bit

[@RadikAlice]

@@mightBeAtomic The fact someone got a hold of it, released it and now there's a translation effort is a miracle. Whoever they are, they will forever be remembered as absolute legends. A literal anonymous hero

[@misterklonoa1602]

53:08 one of the most satisfying moments ever

[@PurpleColonel]

I'm guessing "virus" was going to be the name originally and they wouldnt actually bother with naming it after Mario. Like how there are those golf games with Mario that are just called "Golf" or "American Open Golf" or whatever.

[@the_Lime]

I think there's also NES Open Tournament Golf, but I'm not 100% sure

[@lewatoaofair2522]

theLimeCat That’s the golf game that had Mario.

[@the_Lime]

@@lewatoaofair2522 ok good, I wasn't sure but I'm glad you cleared it up

[@majamystic256]

Wrecking Crew had Mario but didn't have Mario in the title

[@the_Lime]

@@majamystic256 and donkey kong, although that isn't THE Mario but still

[@notaloafofbread773]

it's ok dude it's not virus, it's not virus, plz download plz

[@Boomrainbownuke9608]

you can trust me im a dolphine

[@Glory2Snowstar]

It’s a feature!

[@blobbem]

I wonder how many unreleased prototypes, alpha/beta builds, or rarely released games are out there hidden away in some collector's house or some old dev's attic.

[@renakunisaki]

How many people have a rare prototype stashed away and don't even know it?

[@blankpage9277]

I hate collectors who don't dump roms. So many things get lost because they're selfish.

[@isingra]

We live in a timeline where Vinny "Barnyard" Vinesauce is corrupting a corrupted game to try and make it playable.

[@satoruriolu6132]

I'm so glad I'm living on his universe

[@MDPToaster]

-World Birdo: *Commits not alive Vinny: [Cackles maniacally]

[@MariotheAnimator]

I HAVE BEEN INSPIRED!!! 5:10

[@Strangeisntit_real]

Mario Ramirez **Animate**

[@radkid10]

18:40 "This is cool but I mean, its really great, to think about like how this game went frommm:" *in tandem with first three major hits in the underground song* "doki doki panic, to this, to (once again in tandem) doki doki literature club." I'd put my money on him doing this on purpose, but with pinny it could have been anything.

[@quen7098]

The waterfall level in Mario 2 is an obstacle for your eyes

[@eckitronix]

Super Mario Bros. 2: Proto Edition featuring World A-1's Eldritch Kingdom and Caves of Italy

[@1kenjo]

oh god the seizure waterfall

[@lupin6741]

the subversion of expectations during the dr. mario prototype gave me the biggest laugh in a while

[@hunterjulian98]

18:47 fruit isn't the only thing hanging

[@samuelcamarillo1349]

Vinny gently opens the door

[@pullahoko]

Pix Quartet is honestly such a great concept.

[@shounfauxe]

Every time a new ball bounced onto the stage in Special Tee Shot it sounded like one of the sound effects that's used to make Fox McCloud's voice in Star Fox 2.

[@LuigiBlood]

Considering Star Fox 2 has the same composer as Special Tee Shot this isn't too out of place.

[@MechanizedDragonWorkshop]

That randomly placed F7 chord at 48:02, I felt that

[@swiperr9808]

47:15 Vinny created a banger

[@joshuas.g.g.4951]

Was really hoping he'd try out the Pokemon Gold/Silver beta, maybe another day. That SMB2 proto-Underground Theme's a total banger.

[@RadikAlice]

It'd be neat, but for his sake and the stream's maybe he should wait until Team Spaceworld's translation effort is finished, or somewhat presentable

[@blankpage9277]

The beta's out there now?

[@FamilyTeamGaming]

@@blankpage9277 The beta for Pokémon Gold/Silver leaked late April last year. I have some videos of it. Was a really big deal when it happened, especially since how oddly complete the game is for a prototype showing a version of the game that was basically completely scrapped.

[@RadikAlice]

@@FamilyTeamGaming I mean, it's only a prototype in a sense. It *was* meant as a playable demo after all, same thing with the Starfy GBC demo. Which I think that one was at the last ever Nintendo Spaceworld, LSuperSonicQ has a video on it

[@RadikAlice]

@@blankpage9277 It is, but since it's in Japanese and there's a few intentional roadblocks in place it would just be Vinny faffing about with debug enabled

[@VezonTheInsane]

In before nintendo files a cease and desist order to silence Vinny

[@Urpuss]

It's a shame we don't have more prototypes, these are so incredibly fascinating to discover. Hope Vinny does more of these streams!

[@escaperoutebritish]

Vinny's comments on autoplay, I actually put Vinesauce on autoplay when I want to sleep.

[@keptil]

Playing simcity: "We need some disasters." The Sims in the City: "Really? We already elected Vinny mayor, what else could there possibly be?"

[@doodledangernoodle2517]

I hope the Sunsoft Journey to Silius prototype when it was still the Terminator will be leaked one day

[@RadikAlice]

I like the final better, but since I love Silius I'd be all for it regardless

[@InternationalBoardsOfPigeons]

39:37 That thing on the left looks like pale Meat (you could also see it in the corrupted Ostro earlier.)

[@spugoge915]

Y E O W

[@Ruby_Coast]

The Vinesauce playbook: keep at a very bad joke until it inevitably dies, and segue by changing the game.

[@mspeter97]

Toshio Iwai's Sound Fantasy became SimTunes in 1996. So yeah, the game changed platform and all but it exists

[@erick74777]

24:30 best vin laugh ive ever heard

[@jumpythehat]

That underground music for SMB2 is a bop that slaps

[@GamayObera]

Sonic 2 Prototypes dumped by Hidden Palace stream, when?

[@ExaltedUriel]

Even though Vinny isn't much of a Sonic fan but I still think it'd be interesting if he checked them out as part of another prototype stream. They're really neat, especially the early one that still has Green Hill Zone playable (as long as you use a code to change it back to Sonic 1's collision system).

[@alanbareiro6806]

Can't wait for Vinny to finally play Salad Plain!

[@ExaltedUriel]

@@alanbareiro6806 Oh yeah, that was the Sonic CD proto that was recently dumped. That one is especially jank.

[@alanbareiro6806]

@@ExaltedUriel You say!

[@baconlabs]

Did anyone else notice the Yellow Virus had a rather... interesting... "nose"?

[@RadikAlice]

All I can say is: *PINGAS!*

[@renakunisaki]

Ever notice its weird animation in the final game, how its mouth seems to SPEEN? They left one frame of the prototype design.

[@moritzzz1]

I really want vinny to mess with SimTunes now

[@Slenderquil]

I'M TALKIN ABOUT MY FOOT. IT GOES OFF

[@Wikkler]

It's strange how the background music to Sim City (NES) dips into "Frosty the Snowman" sometimes.

[@sylvoen]

fingers crossed vinny does an electroplankton one off at some point because that game is FUN

[@Boooo]

Just wanted to say, I really like your profile picture. Also don't know what electroplankton is but its stage in smash bros is cool so I also want to see binny play gam.

[@Boooo]

@@polocatfan Oh, that sounds neat.

[@albers14]

Didn't expect this stream turn into Corruptions

[@thestripedmenace]

WAIT. That Underground theme... They backported the SMB3 Underground theme into SMBUSA's sound engine, just like they took Peach's sprite from the ending to that game and used it as a base for her sprites in this game!!!! How cool is that????? P.S.: I say SMBUSA's sound engine specifically because Doki Doki Panic's lacked any DPCM drums, so some of the songs in that version of the game sound quite different!

[@BlueKazuki]

5:30 delete this channel

[@blankpage9277]

Nintendo would like to know your location

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

54:44 Beat Hopper sounds like the lost member of Kamen Rider Kabuto.

[@Big_Man_Enjoyer]

I would love a part 2 of this

[@LuigiBlood]

I'm looking into it with some 3rd party games next time

[@the_Lime]

The puzzle mode on the final version of Yoshi's Cookie reminds me a lot of tetris attack which is also on SNES, and has Yoshi as a main character. Tetris attack also had a puzzle mode, and it's the same as this one, where you have a set number of moves and need to clear everything.

[@3three3three3three]

nintendo proton pack i'm not going to remember commenting this later

[@nokiasnakes]

wait a minute these arent hidden palace's sonic month streams

[@RadikAlice]

November 16th can't come soon enough. Oh well, at least The Toys That Made Us season 3 is releasing the 15th

[@Saxdude26]

9:22, wait... so Mario 3's underground track was actually Mario 2's prototype cave track?! THAT'S COOL! 13:58 OKAY HOLD ON! That's ON PAR with what RPG and NSMB did with the tune. That's a remix and a BOP! Just found out there's an All-Stars version too!

[@CCTVRECORDING0000001]

Magic lamp instead of... other magic lamp.

[@juliasch7854]

god bless luigi blood

[@WatercolorMush]

sound fantasy is pretty much one of the coolest game concepts i've seen and i would 100% buy and play a game like that

[@fnln3011]

USA Mario 2 is an officially licensed bootleg

[@haydnwolfie]

You know, Vinny is usually a funny guy, but he was absolutely killing it with jokes in this video! Loved it :D

[@dj-sx4710]

I notice the sound effects from first game 'virus' is NES Tetris sound effects.

[@jtkgames0]

20:23 Super Mario Bros 2 DLC: Mario has a nightmare

[@someguy2302]

1:08:30 vinny is so musical he scribbled random dumb shit and it still works

[@Tyxi]

Sound Fantasy looks like a really fun game.

[@jared6343]

i think the bug part in sound fantasy is inspired by the fact that in real life a lot of insects are repelled by the scent of certain inks and will not walk over a line drawn by that marker

[@zonetropper]

Isn't that just Termites and Ants though? Hivemind species mainly.

[@EddieBurke]

i can't believe this stream is 2 years old wtffffffff.

[@IneedmoresubsOnline]

Let’s all be honest... Super Mario Bros. 2 was the famous NES Prototype

[@awesomechad7716]

I'm sort of mad about this because no prototypes to other classic Mario games have been found yet :(

[@nytrodioxide]

Beat Hopper should be made into a full fledged game

[@AmethystLeslie]

50:30 Not all hope is lost on just playing that prototype. There's a game called SimTunes by the same dev, for PC. It's basically that mode you were playing but as a full released game. I had it as a kid but could never make the most of it. I'd like to see you play around with it. Edit: Oh, you were told that later. Welp.

[@the-NightStar]

Actually, the entirety of the original Yume Kojo;Doki Doki Panic was made with no run button in mind. It's actually the ADDITION of a run button that ended up breaking the game and making more parts much easier than they were supposed to be.

[@allen-etcetera]

Long long ago there lived a grotesque boy, whose name was Haji-Mikan. He was so poor that he couldn't buy anything. But he bought 'WALKMAN' and 'STEREO KOZOH'. Whenever he saw something nice, he said 'GIVE ME! GIVE ME!' So everyone called him 'OCTOPUS!' Copyright 1981 HAL LABORATORY

[@aquaticseabird]

52:49 for satisfying cricket

[@04bootlegger39]

6:59 that one meme *_Guess i'll die_*

[@kirbyhero256]

Wow, that mention of SimTunes was a real blast to the past for me.

[@SuperGiga64]

13:20 for underground theme

[@hpalpha7323]

man that mario 2 underground theme goes hard as fuck

[@greencatdude866]

I never knew you COULD run in Super Mario Bros. 2 when I was a child.

[@no1rspadeheart365]

Woah, I actually played that "Super Tee Shot" game once! Didn't know it was an unreleased game at all. Not sure about other places, but here in Brazil it used to be very common to see bootleg PS2 discs like "super ultra retro collection" or something among these lines, and they'd include a lot of random game ROMs (have no idea how a PS2 can emulate older games, but whatever), and the one I owned had this game included. That disc had some other interesting stuff, like some ROMs which were either dumped in a shit way or the emulator itself sucked, because some were just unplayable. Like one which was supposed to be a fantranslation of A Link to The Past but when you run it you just start in a room full of garbled pixels. And then there was this one fantranslation of some Japan-only game but I guess the translators just gave up halfway because at some point it would just become random letters. Not even romaji, like, y'know when you try to run a japanese game without changing the locale first? Yeah, that was it.

[@arkaidov]

37:17 he just manifested land in the metaverse

[@RealityRogue]

24:28 vinny laughs like a little girl

[@some-say-gregms]

Can you imagine not finishing a pickle

[@ronindebeatrice]

Omg "it goes off"

[@unicronagent13]

These are incredible! Do you think the guy that got these prototypes can get N64 prototypes? I’d KILL for a Mario 64 prototype.

[@renakunisaki]

Well there are the debug builds of the two Zeldas floating around. They're not prototypes but they're pretty cool.

[@riotfirerfi]

Vance, good quality videotape. The tracking on your VCR is superb. Don't download that Linux tar, your now a Lindows star.

[@kylesatwon1134]

40:08 HOLY FUCK, MARIO'S FACE!!!!

[@mguymario]

1:14:17 man predicted monthful mode

[@directrix1]

The underground music was an early version of the Mario 3 underground music.

[@pczb2692]

Wait, so... The beta of SMB2 had the FIRST rendition of the underground theme with drums? Cool :v Neat to see it was reused for the All Stars version.

[@matthewrease2376]

That underground theme be boppin'

[@skirdus367]

I actually prefer this SMB2 Mario sprite over what we got in the final version

[@dantenaimo]

Coincidentally I started watching this the morning of the big Nintendo ROM source code leaks today, including many betas

[@dededethesuperstarwarrior]

I didn't realize that this, THIS, was literally from just yesterday... fuck....!!..