[Vinesauce] Vinny - Sega Saturn Curioso Pack #3

[@vinesaucefullsauce]

00:00 Intro 01:45 Courier Crisis 07:28 Funky Head Boxers PLUS 15:14 Die Hard Arcade 22:33 Pocket Fighter 31:00 Technical Difficulties 35:04 Virtual Hydlide

[@malfattio2894]

Virtual Hydlide makes a whole lot more sense when you find out that it used a golf engine

[@DarthCrust66]

Wait really they used a golf engine for a fantasy action game

[@Drek492]

That's a fantastic fact

[@tigertoxins584]

Interesting fact but it’s so badly optimized it almost makes me want to vom

[@theotherjared9824]

It's also a remake of the NES hydlide. Despite that, it somehow makes the NES game look good by comparison.

[@thepenguin9]

@@Ilikewater-andice technically yes but the first game you make with an engine doesn't really mean that engine is specialised for that game

[@darktrooper6857]

"I don't know who any of these characters are except the Street Fighter ones" "Akyuma"

[@Barriertriostruckapose]

goku

[@captainjurgh8142]

The another amazing feature of Sega Saturn emulator is that you don't have to corrupt it with any software because it already is

[@DoitForTheLolz1]

Sega Saturn: Holder of the 8 processors of the Segapocalypse.

[@Silbotronic]

24:08 Vinny mentions Wonderswan and is almost immediately after assaulted by noise. It's like poetry, it rhymes.

[@abonnybunny6647]

Truly, Virtual Hydlide was the Skyrim of its time. In none of the good ways. (I still love this abomination though)

[@thebigmeme7534]

"Courier Crisis" Ah yes, Fallout New Vegas

[@belisarius6949]

Come Home, Courier 7.

[@onelividguardsman5681]

delivering papers almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

[@USMC49er]

Pocket fighter is an underrated fighting game classic, I used to play this with my friend all the time

[@Mikedot]

I used to play it via emulators like Final Burn Alpha

[@RingoBuns]

Did it ever have a release in a ps2 compilation? I have REALLY faint memories of playing it

[@IPODsify]

Pocket fighter makes me wonder why Red Earth and Power Stone get no love in the Marvel series

[@jabmaster1000]

@@RingoBuns it got released on PSN, that might be what you’re thinking. That’s how I used to play the game. It went on sale constantly

[@timmer919hep]

@@RingoBuns it was an extra in one of the street fighter collections on the ps2. I think the alpha one.

[@MrDmoney156]

I sometimes wonder if he plays his Arcade games at his local laundromat or pizza restaurant and they only had Street Fighter 2 available and nothing else

[@tigertoxins584]

I wouldn’t doubt it, delis in Brooklyn have coin pushers and I’ve seen a key master in a pizza shop

[@sonozaki0000]

honestly, that's the way a lot of places are. growing up, if it wasn't a dedicated arcade it only had street fighter II (and/or tekken), pac-man or galaga, plus some weird movie tie-in, if it was a movie theatre lobby

[@julianbesem4586]

Remember the Stray Cat Girl? This is her now 23:23

[@CebolaBros]

I mean... You're not wrong.

[@Charredasperity]

Virtual Hydlide looks like a fake game from a 90's sitcom

[@SuperDrunkdragon]

You just reminded me of the mortal kombat parody from Family Matters

[@eins2001]

"The case said billions of possibilities, Elaine! Billions! Do you know what this means?"

[@Lucas-db2jq]

To this day I try to figure out what on Earth is so "virtual" about Virtual Hydlide. Maybe it's referring to the possibilities of actually having fun playing.

[@IPODsify]

I assume this was some hackneyed attempt to associate itself with the "Virtua" games

[@Lucas-db2jq]

@@PaizuruInsanal Oh. Well that explains the Virtual Boy. Japan really does have that sometimes, one of my favorites is their weird fascination with the word "Labo".

[@loganagle746]

_Virtual Hydlide_ was trying to be _Elderscrolls - Oblivion_ when the technology to do so was a literal decade away.

[@PFBM86]

There were games that came out before Virtual Hydlide that more successfully accomplished what it was trying to do, e.g., Elder Scrolls Arena, Betrayal at Krondor.

[@raiverns9620]

panzer dragoon did what virtual hydlide was doing scalewise, virtual hydlide just used one of the saturn's processors for its large open world, and it was the once that WASNT good at processing large, flat, open areas.

[@Twitch380]

Um someone tell him Oblivion wasn't...never mind

[@inferno9218]

@@Twitch380 Sadly people being idiots and thinking Skyrim is standalone (or in this rare case - that Oblivion exists too) is super common.

[@nulltrope]

Courier Crisis is a pretty accurate depiction of what it's like to be a delivery person in new york city

[@Two-HeadedBoy]

YOoooo! Die Hard Arcade totally unlocked a memory in my head playing that game non-stop at the arcade. I loved the SFX all the weapons made.

[@bryal7811]

Virtual Hydlide has this weird charm to it. I remember playing it years ago and I *HAD* to beat it. It's playable but had enough jank to keep you challenged.

[@burnpianoisle]

I saw Pocket Fighter and I clicked

[@CebolaBros]

Same, except I thought it was Puzzle Fighter at first

[@Dong_Harvey]

Yep

[@NeonLitGhost]

Virtual Hydlide is the true Killer App of the Saturn

[@blankpage9277]

Vinny was calling that guy ballsack for who knows how long. Poor guy.

[@bazal68k54]

I dunno man. Dude's kinda a scrote.

[@bubblemage]

Oh no. He played Virtual Laglide.

[@Maverick274]

I am the only person I've ever known to own a saturn. Got it for Christmas as a little kid from my parents who knew I liked my Sega Genesis. Had Virtua Cop, Virtua Fighter, and Virtua Racing. Rented X-men Children of Atom, Nights into Dreams, Virtua Fighter Kids, this weird Bug and toy knight game and some others buried deep in my memories.

[@AstralElebit]

Every day I wish for a new Darkstalkers game, and every day I am disappointed

[@dr.velious5411]

Same.

[@doclouis4236]

And I just want a good 3D Final Fight game made by the same guy that directs the Devil May Cry games.

[@skunthundler]

@@doclouis4236 Well at least one of the wishes hear is coming true.

[@doclouis4236]

@@skunthundler You talking about that alleged Capcom leak? I'm not sure if I can trust that.

[@ExaltedUriel]

I almost never trust leaks but that Capcom one not having Darkstalkers but Street Fighter 6 and even Ultra Street Fighter 6 almost made me believe it was real.

[@0megadwarf]

42:31 "you ever try making out with a cardboard cut out, of like, Regis Philbin?" every f**king day man

[@raiverns9620]

We still do not know why the hell they did every part of virtual hydlide on the VDP1

[@raiverns9620]

@Motherfucking Satan nope thats all vdp1, if you look closely you can see the floor warping near edges

[@raiverns9620]

Mr. John Fullsauce, could you please pass a message along to a Mr. Vincent Vinesauce that Yaba-Sanshiro on windows is bad and he should use SSF or RetroArch's non Yaba-Sanshiro cores for future Saturn emulation.

[@StinkTerios]

Isn't Mednafen/Beetle the best one?

[@QcHyperShock]

there kronos too

[@Ashurman666]

mednafen is the best one. SSF is a pain to set up, mednafen is much more simple. Retroarch's cores are...very inconsistent

[@raiverns9620]

SSF is a pain, but it's by and far the best saturn emulator. Mednafen is a good balance of solidness and ease of use, so is it's retroarch core. Kronos is a bit more unstable in exchange for having the nice bonuses of internal upresing and turning dithers into alpha blends, and also is much easier played through it's retroarch core

[@explosivepolack69]

@@QcHyperShock yeah as the new one

[@marvelousball]

Can't wait for a curioso pack for the best console ever made, the dreamcast

[@jabmaster1000]

The Dreamcast is such an awesome console and a perfect Sega console send off but in my opinion the GameCube reigns supreme

[@similifriends5478]

Dreamcast was definitively ahead of it's time but it came out at a wrong time sadly.

[@jabmaster1000]

@@similifriends5478 true

[@marvelousball]

@@similifriends5478 also didn't help Sega was retarded

[@Langas_LVDC]

I see Virtual Hydlide and I just think of Projared

[@classymarowak7001]

"A broken marriage out of ten."

[@HarukoPlease]

Jim the knight, killed by bees

[@JunkExplorer]

"A cheating out of ten."

[@milesedgeworth132]

@@JunkExplorer Didn't cheat though. They tried an open relationship due to a troubled marriage.

[@JunkExplorer]

@@milesedgeworth132 It's just a meme, I don't care what he does with this life

[@Pollix780]

23:21 a heartfelt hearty chuckle

[@GamayObera]

I think that Hydlide being on hands of D4 Enterprise is good. At least it won't enter in a gacha hell like Wizardry is about to enter in a question of time.

[@warbossgegguz679]

@Buff Ringo Wizardry is more important than just that (ie It's one of the first CRPGs EVER) but apparently so.

[@ArmoredChocoboLPs]

1:45 I REMEMBER THIS GAME! MY COUSIN HAD THIS ON THE PSX! It was actually pretty awesome (for teenagers in the 90s), a bike version of Crazy Taxi before Crazy Taxi.

[@themagicboy6548]

29:34 just noticed that Felicia turned into megaman

[@timmer919hep]

Pocket Fighter is awesome. I wish they made more like it.

[@ed_ward6869]

I just realized, when the Virtual Hydlide man turns his head he looks like Jay from RLM.

[@hpalpha7323]

I love the early days of 3D when nobody knew what they were doing, you got so much weird shit

[@warbossgegguz679]

That's also partially because the Saturn was built around sprite scaling rather than polygons, so 3D games on the Saturn needed a ton of workarounds and were jank AF as a result.

[@costumeninja1914]

@@warbossgegguz679 not all of them.

[@mattigator600]

I can confirm Virtual Hydlide looked awesome in a magazine , I must have been around 9 maybe 10 years old and only knew the NES and some SNES games ... there were tons of games for the Saturn , Jaguar, 32x , 3DO etc that we now know are trash, but looked incredible in tiny magazine screenshots back in the day. We're quite fortunate to have HD trailers and review videos these days 😎 Oh yea and watching Gyre's runs of the game was very enjoyable

[@JoeyJ0J0]

Die Hard Arcade is a great game, It got a sequel for Dreamcast called Dynamtie Cop

[@WilfredCthulu]

Pocket Fighter is so fucking good. I love a fighting game that is just beyond ridiculous and stupid yet still competent.

[@saramations]

The worst thing about VH to me is the music. Ooooooof. There's charm buried in there somewhere.

[@BicheTordue]

in hydlide they handle the weight system by lowering the framerate when you have too much on you wich can result in a slideshow of a game

[@Charredasperity]

I love Pocket Fighter

[@rhipuyo]

I’m a simple person. I see Felicia, I click.

[@FiggsNeughton]

32:37 "Even I get bored, Jabba!" lmao this bit omg

[@BlackKanye]

Die Hard Arcade might just be Dynamite Deka(Cop) 1 rebranded, but man was it fun. Dynamite Cop 2 on dreamcast is awesome as well. I fucking love the whole 'take downs' shit they had going on with the grapples. I don't remember, but I assume you can arrest guys to instantly 'defeat' them like in the second game. I actually have played the second game on dreamcast quite a bit. Might play it again. You can't take guys to the ground like you can in this as far as I could figure out. But you could do various moves when you grab an enemy. Like the female cop can start this long ass move where she keeps snapping the enemy's bones. Love that shit. I swear as a 26 yr old it was probably the arcade game I saw the most consistently at arcades. And I used to go on road trips a lot as a kid. I think it was that, then Time Crisis 2 when that came out, HOTD1, then either some Tekken or Daytona. ADDITION: Holy shit I never realized that the goons can fumble reloading their guns.

[@borbborb9615]

Seeing Felicia in the thumbnail reminds me that she's in every crossover instead of the numerous other, more interesting Darkstalkers.

[@dr.velious5411]

Jedah gets crossovers sometimes too, but yeah, I'd like for our smiley boi Demitri to get some love too.

[@rugalbernstein5913]

Rip characters like Rikuo, talbain, Bishamon, and huitzil that will never get a single playable crossover just because they aren't fan-service girls.

[@borbborb9615]

​@@rugalbernstein5913 Even Raptor and Sasquatch couldn't get any crossover appearances despite how popular they are to play and how consistently strong they were in every DS game. Anakaris is great, though. Shame he didn't make the cut for MVC3.

[@borbborb9615]

I am glad Hsien-Ko got in since I never really think of her as a waifu character, she was always a really fun design and even weirder moveset.

[@rugalbernstein5913]

@@borbborb9615 raptor got into Project X Zone, the Namco X Capcom sequels.

[@eckitronix]

Me: sees Virtual Hydlide in the thumbnail Still me: "*_VINNY NO SAVE YOURSELF_*"

[@Harlod814]

Anyone know which legit Sega Saturn he's using? Because I use MedSat and haven't had any of the problems shown in this video.

[@Valientlink]

Saturn was a very strong system that sadly failed due to poor marketing and difficulty navigating around the hardware for devs. I loved this thing as a kid, still have mine dusting up in a box in my closet. The music player was so chill and trippy, used that for it mostly haha

[@hoodedstreetmonk352]

Wow, Die Hard Arcade really was a predecessor to Dreamcast's Dynamite Cop

[@MrDmoney156]

well it was called Dynamite Cop (Deka) 2 in Japan: 66.media.tumblr.com/1d8e8e7b1dbd9cfc03a666d0011df5c7/tumblr_pcvy37db1D1ug2uiho1_500.jpg

[@HandyFox333]

I bet it just looks fun from a distance but very stressful and complex hands on.

[@KamiJoJo]

I don't know if that's an emulator issue or real hardware problem but the sound effects in Pocket Fighter are way more crusty and bit crushed than the arcade version.

[@SuperDrunkdragon]

Damn I wish someone told vinny that dan in pocket fighter uses his father's corspe in his moveset...

[@PROBO9393]

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well may be) but isn't Die Hard Arcade literally Dynamite Cop?

[@Tekape]

boxing game, the music when you mash your button reminds me of Mario 64 cave theme and despite looking so weird it seems like a decent game

[@agitatedskeleton]

The Dying Emulator part 2

[@IPODsify]

Die hard arcade's gameplay went on to be featured in an arcade/dreamcast game called dynamite deka and I fucking love both

[@Ashurman666]

Dynamite Deka 2 actually. See in Japan, Die Hard Arcade was called Dynamite Deka . Then they made a sequel which in the west is called Dynamite Cop

[@arabidllama]

Elder Scrolls: Arena came out before Virtual Hydlide, though. Daggerfall wasn't the first game.

[@warbossgegguz679]

And Ultima Underworld was even earlier, albeit it didn't have procgen.

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

Better system than the N64, don't @ me.

[@RingoBuns]

One time I got hit by a car and landed on my face and afterwards my boogers were highlighter yellow like Mountain Dew.

[@bloodangelxx]

yeah , both avgn and pro jared played hydlide...for charity

[@witchywanda666]

courier crises is giving me twisted metal ps1 flashbacks help

[@mileskay7566]

Funky Head Boxers misspelled "stats" as "states" at about the 10 minute mark. The bars actually measure not how good they are at boxing but their overall time in US States on vacation.

[@NataliaNeeSama]

Puzzle fighter! ♥ Too bad the Mobile entry didn't ended up well.

[@speedoreo1462]

from what game does shecomefrom ?30:43

[@montefisto]

@00:14 Why does Vinny miss Reddit? What a weird dude.

[@0megadwarf]

hydlide looks like it would actually be pretty fun if someone patched it to make it a bit smoother

[@amahrle2767]

So for Die Hard arcade it actually has quite the funny little nod. So of course when the sequel came out they had to change the name to Dynamite Cop and Bruce Wi-I mean BRUNO DILLENGER was left. Until Project X Zone where Good ol Bruno returned, with his voice actor being Bruce Willis's Japanese Dub actor and making him look more like Bruce Willis himself. No Project X Zone (1) is not a good game. 2 is way better but if you don't like strategy JRPGs like that then it won't change your mind on it.

[@Ashurman666]

Are you kidding, X Zone 1 is fantastic. Sure 2 is better but that doesn't make the first one BAD

[@skunthundler]

The project x games are some of the most mind numbing games I've ever played in my life. Never wanna play anything that boring again.

[@moritzzz1]

25 years later, the sega saturn emulators fucking suck

[@weregretohio7728]

Can't believe he doesn't know the Die Hard game. Used to play that in the arcades all the time. I'm just sad he doesn't know Darkstalkers, goddamn it Capcom :(

[@chaffXgrenade]

Interested in all things Felicia, are ya Vinny...?

[@Dong_Harvey]

Bruce Willis beats up Juggalos in the virtual fuckfest game of the year!

[@KandyMan971]

Vin the knight. Killed by bees

[@DaVince21]

0:00 Vinny, this is fucking weird. My wife is reading a classic novel called Basil. She was on page 268 when I started this video. And the book she read right before this one was a book written by no one other than Balzac.

[@0megadwarf]

WHOA

[@TheDudeManBro]

I tried streaming mechwarrior for sega Saturn and it was a lot of me stopping and referring to the manual to figure out the button combos to do all the shit. Interesting port tho

[@Shifty00]

Courier Crisis was a fun game but had it on the PS1. Noticed though the Saturn version is missing almost all of its audio except the music, missed the stream but prob all vod muted and got some generic stuff shoved in. Shame cause the soundtrack is amazing :D

[@BrigadierBaz]

Just the full sauce upload to avoid copyright strikes. You can still watch the Vod on Twitch with all the original sound.

[@UserUser-oy8ch]

I remember hearing that stock sound effect on twisted metal

[@HoChiMints2007]

what the- is Die Hard Arcade a reskinned Dynamite Deka? Why does John McClane fight like Virtua Fighter's Jacky? Probably recycled engines

[@HoChiMints2007]

Looked it up. Apparently they didnt have the license for Die Hard in Japan so they renamed it "Dynamite Deka". Game had a good reception that they made a sequel

[@pikabluebear9941]

Die Hard Arcade was originally a Japanese arcade game called Dynamite Deka

[@QcHyperShock]

binyot there a die hard arcade remake on ps2 if you want to play it

[@sonicplys64]

Die Hard Arcade? Describe it to me

[@EmilyTestAccount]

crazy taxi for people who couldnt afford a fax machine before the internet became common

[@GooberScotsman]

Break it down for me.

[@paladinpv8460]

Felicia best girl

[@Max25670]

Felicia > Morrigan, everyday

[@Barriertriostruckapose]

huitzil best girl

[@Dinofly4]

Tip-Tup_flipper_getting_slammed_by_Kazooie_beak_scream.wav

[@UserUser-oy8ch]

that the only power punch the cpu has?

[@DracoHandsome]

See that Hydlide? You can rip it off.

[@theshep]

Is Willis fighting a Juggalo?

[@axllaw427]

I miss Darkstalkers

[@joelockard7174]

Virtual hydlide wasn't necessarily a bad game...it was a pioneer of the open world games of that time. The game was boring and the controls a bit clunky...but overall playable. That saying I've played through once and have no desire to play it again lol.

[@Xellos14]

Guess I don't get the intensity of the hate on Virtual Hydlide lol looked interesting for a game from a quarter of a century ago.

[@bryal7811]

Vinny's offended because his favorite franchise *shamelessly* ripped it off.

[@MrDmoney156]

@@bryal7811 Never understood the hate either...Virtual Hydlide it's at least better than Ocarina of Time imho

[@samsammich8465]

Vinny's relentless cynicism when he doesn't like something is 100x worse than virtual Hydlide. Listening to him when he gets like that makes me feel tired. Like its a 1995 sega saturn game and he complains about how it looks. I mean what'd he expect.

[@bryal7811]

@@samsammich8465 I'll defend Vinny a bit in saying that he's improved upon that cynicism in the more recent years. (Shows more when he's talking about music now instead.) It came out during the VH segment but he *was* warming up to it near the end. Shame he didn't give it a chance because a full playthrough would have been amazing.

[@samsammich8465]

@@bryal7811 Yeah he's definitely not done it as much recently. I dont watch his actual streams so idk if its his chat feeding him an opinion before he gets a chance to play it

[@littleasiangod9524]

Funky

[@marvelousball]

Who the fuck made that Saturn emulator? It's like a psychopath programmed it

[@Mokujo]

Virtual Hydlide gets undue shit, I'm just gonna say it. It isn't that bad.

[@araknieretro]

Oh so you weren't joking in the mail, you actually did bin SSF after playing Mr. Bones. Dude why, that's much better than this trash emu. You're just asking for technical difficulties at that point.

[@karldangel-scope]

Courier crisis is one of my favourite games but i played its on the ps1 . It looks better on the sega though.

[@cyru2]

ayo peepeepoopoo *check*

[@seamonkey22]

Vinny can you play cubivore?!?!! I love that game (‘～`;

[@Guymanbot97]

I remember Joel played first few worlds before dropping it. Does the gameplay loop ever change, or does it stay the same?

[@governor_explosion]

You’re going to have to email him- he doesn’t read the comments or manage this channel.

[@Guymanbot97]

@@governor_explosion He does sometimes. I still remember the time he shut down a guy for calling him out in mainstream media.

[@blankpage9277]

@@governor_explosion he reads comments sometimes and replies to them with the main vinesauce channel. Emailing him is still your best bet though.

[@MrDmoney156]

@@Guymanbot97 when was that?

[@LockRainmaker]

These songs from Courier Crisis sound exactly like ripoffs of Astro Zombies by Misfits, lol

[@blankpage9277]

Virtual Hidelyde doesn't look that bad.

[@numba2dad]

47:34

[@CurledSun]

22:18