VINTAGE - Was Bruce Lee good at Wing Chun Response Video

[@willms7173]

Originally, I recall reading that Bruce Lee studied southern mantis and maybe Yang style taiji quan from Fook Yeung. Jesse Glover, would later say in another book that Lee also studied red boat wing chun, perhaps from another person. Whether he actually studied red boat wing chun or not does not matter. He still continued to practice, once he became an adult, what he had learned at Ip Man's school as an adolescent. It seemed like Lee would make tremendous progress in a certain area or skill set, after either training under or with someone. While the other individual would pretty much remain the same.

[@willms7173]

I came across a title that had Fook Yeung's name along with red boat wing chun in the title. Lee very well could have learned some of this art from Fook Yeung as well

[@benjaminbecker8508]

You are so honorable, Sifu! If lived anywhere near, I'd come every day to your school to study.

[@vtpoet5300]

Very nice. Much respect 👍👍👍

[@CER_SR.]

I respect your dedication to the art. I believe Sifu Glover and Lee would be proud! I have followed your content for over a decade. Be Blessed Be Safe Be CERtain✊🏿

[@benedictchin8799]

Greetings Sifu Chan, thank you with joined palms☀️🙏🏾

[@wayneredboatopera4346]

people do ask a lot of outrageous questions about bruce lee wing chun, when some westerners try to change or add variations to wing chun all the time. Bruce knew wing chun the created his own style and yes it has wing chun elements in it and many others styles. A true master. Rip Sigong Bruce Lee

[@jamesfurness5355]

Love this guy's Honesty a straight forwardness! Bruce Lee is "THE REASON" Millions of people have taken up WING CHUN.. What legacy do the hater's & sceptics have...???

[@TheFlyingMan]

Blink of an eye speed, then says I'm not going fast 😅

[@thomasotto8693]

I think BL wasn´t just very good in WC(trapping)he also transcended it,mixing it with other styles(like PMA)and improvised (like all masters can)and later in his JKD went more and more away from trapping as Mr.Chang demonstrates here! This is what TOMMY CARUSHER (lerned from J.Glover and Ted Wong)points out all the time ,the"late BRUCE LEE"was more "(western)fencing &boxing with hands and legs",why trapping ,when you can end the fight FAST AND DIRECTLY ...?!!!

[@willms7173]

I believe it was Dan Inosanto, who incorporated the Filipino martial arts into jkd (concepts), not Lee.

[@axelstone3131]

Bruce didn’t do PMA.

[@JKDVIPER]

6:12 COLLECTION HANDS. Used to control and subdue. You can walk them right into it.

[@gavinwade6401]

Jesus christ! The speed

[@JKDVIPER]

4:15 you can’t stop it. That’s why we use it exclusively in JKD. #facts

[@nuddlegg]

The Pak Sau drill is a drill, not an application in itself. It has value on its own.

[@JKDVIPER]

Gary lam 18 hand PAK SAO is the one I use. It teaches you to use the deflection hand as a hit too. SAM TZE principle

[@jamijordan1009]

The problem is that you will execute the way you TRAIN. So shouldn't all drills be done in an applicable way? If you just want a general understanding of it read a book. But any responsible sifu would tell you to train the way something should be executed otherwise incorrect training will lead to incorrect application. Do you think boxers are throwing 1000's of punches incorrectly in the gym? Judo guys? kick boxers? etc? The notion is really rediculous if you think about it. Bruce lees wing chun was phenomenal because he trained the SAME way he executed. The boy ran with a gang in his youth and was always testing out his moves in real life situations even when older. Why would he do 1000's of repetitions of any move to apply it differently in the moment in real life situations ?? It makes no sense.

[@nuddlegg]

@@jamijordan1009 I totally agree! But thats not the point. The point is that Pak Sau drill is more of a rope skipping thing rather than a boxing combination. Hence it is quite pointless to discard it based on the fact that there are countermeasures when people apply this kind of movement to real world fighting. You wouldnt do that with rope skipping either no matter how serious of a rope skipper you are.

[@JKDVIPER]

@@jamijordan1009 if you haven’t been in real street fights this is gonna stress you out beyond belief. Drills are no different than practicing throwing a baseball, or catching a frisbee. Sensitivity to move when the brain senses motion, pressure. A drill is a mode of attack. I think most self defense and fighters are way off. A street fight can mean ALL DONE. Look at what I do to that bag? I don’t need a partner to ALLOW ME to use a technique. No.. I can CREATE the hit I want with other actions. Here’s a few key components to WING CHUN that might help. And no.. drilling like a live fight won’t work because they’ll wind up struggling instead of detail. 1. pick a long distance. The triangle. Short distance POWER AND ATTACK. Long distance DEFENSE. 2. PICK 3 doors to open our house up. 3 blocks or defensive deflections. 3. SHIFT EACH ACTION 4. HAVE 4-5 actions against his 1-2. 5. MAKE SURE THE HITS are accurate above all DEEP IMPACTS that penetrate the spine. 😎🤙🏿

[@jamijordan1009]

@@JKDVIPER ​ To be fair I think teahers and lineages are at fault for a lot of misconceptions in martial arts and definitely wing chun training. some things are taught in one linieage that are completely wrong in others. IF you trained wing chun under a sifu who only had one lineage on his resume. Good luck. If you were fortunate enough to have a Wing chun teacher who had multiple Wing Chun lineages under his belt you have the benefit of him pointing out the flaws and getting more depth. But that is rare. You train the technique or drill to gain an attribute of speed and timing, accuracy, etc for real fight. then you execute it in the most realistic sparing as possible BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SPARE TO LEARN. Then you test it out IN REAL FIGHT. If your just doing a drill and thats all I can see why you would think that. But Sparing is as close as training for real combat as many will get. And THATS the point of sparing. But training for real situations I think was the whole point of this video if you see how he corrects this guys pac sao drill. Incorrect drill practicing can """""definitely"""" affect the finished product ESPECIALLY IF THATS ALL YOUR DOING. Furthermore, martial arts training was way more effective in the old days than now. Plus laws. In china you see people going full contact wing chun. You don't see that crap in america anywhere. Back in those days people use to fight and walk away no problem. So, bruce had no prolem getting plenty of realistic training even in the states. Not anymore. Gun culture killed all that. And underground fighting here is still illegal. Its so bad people are actually ON THE INTERNET TRAINING.. (whipping my tears away). Realism has all but left the martial arts world in american culture. The closest thing we have to it is ufc which wing chun is excluded from due to its inherent dirty fighting nature.

[@pinckkk7816]

Wing chun to YMCA. Didn't think I'd see that today !

[@jamijordan1009]

​ @JKD MERIT MASTER GROUP To be fair I think teahers and lineages are at fault for a lot of misconceptions in martial arts and definitely wing chun training. some things are taught in one linieage that are completely wrong in others. IF you trained wing chun under a sifu who only had one lineage on his resume. Good luck. If you were fortunate enough to have a Wing chun teacher who had multiple Wing Chun lineages under his belt you have the benefit of him pointing out the flaws and getting more depth. But that is rare. You train the technique or drill to gain an attribute of speed and timing, accuracy, etc for real fight. then you execute it in the most realistic sparing as possible BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SPARE TO LEARN. Then you test it out IN REAL FIGHT. If your just doing a drill and thats all I can see why you would think that. But Sparing is as close as training for real combat as many will get. And THATS the point of sparing. But training for real situations I think was the whole point of this video if you see how he corrects this guys pac sao drill. Incorrect drill practicing can """""definitely"""" affect the finished product ESPECIALLY IF THATS ALL YOUR DOING. Wholisticly, the drill is a part of a bigger whole. Just a progression in the complete training experience. Nonetheless it should be done correct as its the foundation for the rest. Practically speaking though, martial arts training was way more effective in the old days than now. The laws and culture. In china you see people going full contact wing chun even today. You don't see that crap in america (especially today) anywhere. Back in those days people use to fight and walk away no problem. So, bruce had no prolem getting plenty of realistic training even in the states. Not anymore. Gun culture killed all that. And underground fighting here is still illegal. Its so bad people are actually ON THE INTERNET TRAINING.(whipping my tears away). Realism has all but left the martial arts world in american culture. The closest thing we have to it is ufc which wing chun is excluded from due to its inherent dirty fighting nature. These silly bloggers don't understand this plight of the wing chun sytem and they have field day with it.

[@JKDVIPER]

Wow. I really appreciate that! 👍💥💯😉㊙️

[@unseeneye1]

🙏🙏🙏

[@JKDVIPER]

2:28 ⚠️CAREFUL “Sifu Jerry Poteet personally trained #jasonscottlee 😛💥💯🤙🏿be nice. Movies are movies. Na mean. I’m just saying. Let’s respect JERRY.

[@rmaa8110]

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[@JKDVIPER]

1:40 I’m about to post Adam. Stop by. Please. Lemme hear your thoughts n ideas. 😉🤛💯💥

[@anthonycasey5269]

Questions what's your jkd like like Bruce's Lees like most of the so called great jkd men that never has a fight 😆 🤣 jkd is about not adding on but taking away like a sculpture and that what most are doing bruce would turn in grave he closed down his schools they where starting to do way too much fancy stuff that's Dan inasonto and Ted wong fault Ted never had he fight in his life

[@JKDVIPER]

@@anthonycasey5269 I’ve had lots of fights. Unfortunately. Not a proud thing. But rarely if ever did I start one unless I was afraid already. Maybe look up #brockton Massachusetts. Anyways. I’m a wrestler first. 10 years or more on a grappling room. Kung fu started young. I did football. Hockey. Rugby. Wrestled. I LOVE KUNG FU THOUGH. Shaolin, wing chun. See... the key is.. the guy makes it work. Jkd is an art. Being like BRUCE LEE isn’t even the idea. His idea was. Turn each individual human animal into his most free thought version of him or herself.

[@anthonycasey5269]

When you go on KZbin and type in jkd and what you see is not jkd the way its founder set it out to be its not mixed martial arts there's no trapping bruce left that in the late 60s yet when you see all the so called jkd men thats what they are doing facts jkd is simple and direct and most of them are far from that if you want to see some real jkd the way bruce Lee would have wanted his art to go tommy carruthers in Scotland his the real deal

[@JKDVIPER]

1:08 WORD TO BIRDS. 😂some people are just gifted. ☺️🤛🤙🏿

[@JKDVIPER]

This rules.

[@JKDVIPER]

5:32 all that catching hands crap is way too close. 😂he’s right.

[@JKDVIPER]

3:57 see... I knew it. We do the same. I attack the same way.

[@JKDVIPER]

This one was dope.

[@AR-qn9mq]

Drugs?

[@JKDVIPER]

@@AR-qn9mq wise ass

[@JKDVIPER]

@@AR-qn9mq another brave one huh. No pics. No videos. A TWO LETTER name? Why you so afraid to put up a name for? 🙂👌drugs? 🤮

[@AR-qn9mq]

@@JKDVIPER Bit defensive there, mate. You said it was 'dope' - that means drugs. I didn't understand the connection. I apologise for having only two letters in my name. Obviously you have more so therefore you are better than me. Seems we are both 'afraid' of putting our name up.

[@Johnsmith-pd3uk]

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