Virtua Fighter 2 vs Tekken 2 (Sega Saturn vs Playstation) Side by Side Comparison

[@Venra]

I love Tekken 2. But VF2 eats it in every way. Graphics, speed, resolution and overall gameplay

[@schooltrashers]

Indeed. VF2 was the first game I owned for the Sega Saturn. Definitely better than Tekken 2.

[@retroboy-fh1ji]

One of the only games that showed the superiority of the Saturn's 2 CPU's architecture. A first party title.

[@retroboy-fh1ji]

@@NB-1 psx could never handle Sonic R according to the developers (Traveller's Tales) and they coded for both machines on its day. Panzer Dragoon II Zwei and Saga are also far beyond of what the psx could handle, Radiant Silvergun and Last Bronx also could never work on the psx because of the slower cpu, gpu and less polygon density. The best ps1 could do is Quake 2, Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo 2 and Toy Story 2 (very impressive).

[@grimmfandango832]

@@NB-1 Sega Rally and CE were 1995, RR4 was 1998.... if he's being selective, then so are you.

[@grimmfandango832]

Ps Saturn outputs more texture mapped polygons on paper than the PS1, this is a fact. With lighting and all the Saturn takes a hit, but again the point is Saturn is sometimes better and you have to get over it.

[@XxLast__BossxX]

Virtua Fighter is the Godfather of 3D fighting games. Both sequels are incredible yet different. No winners here, but for everyone who played them.

[@yenk82]

@@NB-1 for some reason you are right but VF2 lacks of characters compared to Tekken 2. There were no ending sequences, no practice mode, no command list in the game. It was more about proper fight but not really home console oriented

[@lukafanatic1816]

I agree plus without VF we wouldn't have Tekken

[@crashpal]

​@yenk82 Virtua Fighter: quality over quantity Tekken: quantity over quality In my experience Tekken was the more fun game due to their extra modes like 1st person perspective

[@crashpal]

​@yenk82 Virtua Fighter: quality over quantity Tekken: quantity over quality In my experience Tekken was the more fun game due to their extra modes like 1st person perspective

[@PeroPeroDoki]

Both are great games. Tekken 2 used best light effects and is fun. Virtua Fighter 2 has better designs 3D, it is smoother, faster and has better animations. I personally like more VF2, I consider a more complete game. In this time the press supported more tekken and playstation consoles, but time is putting things in place.

[@Tornado1994]

EGM didn't really hate Saturn. They disliked SOA's over attitude and treatment of it. They also RESENTED Bernie Stolar because everytime they tried to review games for it, he would never send them demo copies without paying full price.

[@michaeloffgrid]

You're right, it did seem like some magazines at the time only gave favorable reviews to the more popular games. This of course led to the Saturn not getting a lot of credit for what it did have, but if you knew what magazines to read, you knew the Saturn had great games! I remember my favorite magazine, Game Players, gave Virtua Fighter 2 a 99%, which was the highest score they had ever given, and said, "If you own a Saturn and don't buy this game, you're just plain stupid."

[@Tornado1994]

+michaeloffgrid I miss Ultra Game Players so much.

[@Tornado1994]

Psygnosis DD You forgot Fighters Megamix. FAR better than Tekken 3.

[@michaeloffgrid]

Tekken 3 came out over two years after Virtua Fighter 2 so it's not much of an accomplishment to have been better. In any event, I don't remember any VF game being particularly popular.

[@drunkensailor112]

And tekken 2 was released a year after virtua fighter 2. Wow!

[@segaunited3855]

It looks pretty dated. Like something that would have murdered on Model 1 Arcade Hardware.

[@michaelbalbosa994]

Yu Suzuki personally handled the conversion with full access to the Saturn development team, you should expect no less. The amount of resources/time needed to develop and showcase even 1/2 the level of the Saturn's prowess is the main reason most smaller/mid 3rd parties struggled on the platform.

[@realamericannegro977]

Virtua has always smoked Tekken

[@Hiryu666]

While VF2 on Saturn couldn't hold a candle to the Model 2 version graphically, it still played great, and looked pretty good as far as home games go... I also had already owned Tekken 2 on PS1 for a while when I finally got a Saturn+VF2... and I always maintained that VF2 on Saturn was definitely the superior graphically. Seems this video backs up my memories! The PS1 only wins on the shading which I think even the Model 2 couldn't do (until the 2B revision or something like that). The arcade version of Tekken 2 has a slightly higher poly count than the PS1 version. This isn't due to a difference in hardware power as the System 11 board is identical in terms of processing power to the PS1. The issue is the lack of memory on the PS1. If I had to guess, probably the PS1 had enough memory, but it would have resulted in longer loading times. I remember seeing the arcade version and definitely noticing the difference. It wasn't a massive difference, and the home port is still amazing, but the difference was there all the same. I also maintain that Saturn VF2 looks better than the arcade version of Tekken 2, for whatever that's worth. :)

[@Kevin_40]

VF2

[@DTM-Books]

VF2 looks much better, but that's no knock on Tekken 2, which also looks and plays terrific. But Sega's title is remembered as a classic for a reason. It was a technical showpiece for its era. If anything, VF2 on Saturn was too good, as it set a standard that just could never be surpassed (although Megamix, Last Bronx, DOA, Anarchy and Zero Divide may disagree).

[@Dangerous2099]

DOA on Saturn looks as good if not better. But PS1 could not match those fighters on Saturn in terms of graphics as it could not do a high res mode.

[@DraganBlom]

Played VF for two years straight, it's like Street Fighter when it comes to tactics, no Tekken I have ever seen matches that. Might be a matter of taste but the tech fighters were my favorit because of VF & StrF. Doa was a fine game but lacked finesse, en Last Brox... good try but too little / more shallow. Would still play those over Tekken any day, but Virtua Fighter 2 is king on all front. VF 3 was even better on a tech front but I think people didn't like it as much in the west because it was too complicated. Loved it. I stii do a stun palm of doom in my sleep, wakes the wife.

[@michaelbalbosa994]

The only thing holding VF2 back is the lack of lighting/shading. Makes it look a bit cartoony, and lessens the atmosphere a bit.

[@alphaone6665]

A crazy sega believer used to tell me the Tekken 1234567 and the other Tekken games are nothing but a bonch of junk. Virtua Fighter series are the most true fighting game in the world and never ever could be exceeded by such games like Tekken, DOA and Soul Calibur

[@aryinc]

the sega saturn was such an underrated system. it could do allot, just go and look up that shenmue demo. the saturn actually has some ''great'' games, it's not like. ooh it's 3rd place so we don't have to do anything for it anymore and just let it bleed to death within 1 or 2 years''ehem wiiu'''. i can name you at least 50/100 sega saturn games that are good/great and sometimes even better then the rest. just start with counting those sega arcade classics and how well they where ported over.

[@jtm6423]

Umm the hell the sega Saturn was bad in America huh it’s because back in Japan the sega Saturn was really popular when I was ten and also ps1 but I had a Saturn also it even outsold Nintendo this time it just sucks that the sega Saturn failed in America

[@aryinc]

@@jtm6423 it had allot going for it. Sega on it's strongest, a fighting sega is sega at it's best. They kinda blew it but it didn't have to be that way. Sega saturn could have been headbutting the n64.

[@jtm6423]

That’s kinda funny because in Japan the n64 suck ass nobody bought it when I was at school all my friends had a Saturn or ps1 but nobody n64 so yah

[@aryinc]

@@jtm6423 so it kinda won XD. ps1 absolutely owned it. back in the day i only knew of the 8 and 16 bit segas. never really seen a saturn, 32x and only heard about sega cd. Always mixed neo geo and sega cd up for no reason. I had this image of the sega saturn, just the image. I tought it really flopped because it sucked. didn't know but was really curious. I scored one cheap in a local store with sega rally, well it far from sucked. Bough fighting vipers and virtua fighter next, i'll be damned. Vf2 for christmas wich i played the shoddy pc port of around 94, 95 on 486 or something. I played it earlier because i had my ways of beeing kinda spoiled bratt at times XD. Wow, those graphics. nights, panzer dragoon. One of my top 10 best systems ever. it's such a mysterious console also .Liked all 3 tough, n64 is the strange one tough. Them blurry graphics -_-.

[@jtm6423]

@@aryinc sorry taking to long to respond but it in Japan it won second place the Saturn ps1 at first place n64 in third place

[@klodek14]

Tekken was (and still is) my 3d fighter of choice. It made me buy a Playstation back in 1996. It just packed more punch than VF. Having said that, VF2 is a way more accomplished game. It looks a bit flat, but still very slick and it matured in its gameplay way more than Tekken did with T2 (it was an awesome sequel, but it wasn't until T3 that Tekken truly defined itself). I will always prefer Tekken, but objectively, VF2 is the clear winner here.

[@alritedave]

klodek14 It looks flat because of the lack of light sourcing, unlike Tekken 2. It loses in every other sense though (although Tekken 2's intro music is awesome).

[@segaunited3855]

Tekken 2 uses no real light sourcing.

[@kekeke8988]

VF is shit. I've never liked it. The one time I bought VF4 for $5 from a bargin bin at Blockbuster for the PS2, I was disappointed.

[@orlanzo2621]

@@kekeke8988 It's "shit" to you because you're shit at it, lmao. VF is an excellent series.

[@michaelneilvalencia2205]

@@orlanzo2621 true. Those who say bad things about VF franchise clearly doesn't know how to play the game. It's a masterpiece.

[@DTM-Books]

I loved Tekken 2 on Playstation, one of my favorites, even though I never could grok its fighting system. That said, c'mon. Virtua Fighter 2 beats it like a gong. This isn't even close.

[@Shinobi33]

You're nuts.

[@ImWithTeamTrinity]

@@Shinobi33 The ps1 usually had better graphics, but not always. The Saturn was capable of outperforming it with enough effort.

[@nimaiiikun]

if only more sega saturn developers could program polygonal games as well as the people behind Virtua fighter did.

[@sdmayday]

Tekken has some nice lightning effects going for it, but VF2 is clearly superior in every other technical aspect. Resolution, textures, framerate, animations, backgrounds, even the transparent(!) character shadows look way better. AM2 really showed of with this port!

[@RawrX32009]

Virtua Fighter is just better than Tekken in general

[@DJZeeJay]

I had a Playstation back in the day, but I have to admit, VF 2 on Saturn was the better game. The only thing Tekken 2 was better was in the Presentation. Not saying its a bad game, but if we are comparing the two, VF 2 was better. Both games are brilliant however.

[@classicvideogames8861]

On pal version VF2 wins flawless victory...high resolution, full screen, 60 fps vs tekken 2 low res, black borders, 50 Hz...plus VF2 is a much more technical and balanced game

[@nikodem123asdf]

+Classic video games PAL VF2 doesnt run at 60 frames, it runs at 50. Altho yes, you are right tn the regard of it running fullspeed and fullscreen. It was much better optimized than Tekken 2 which is just straight up the NTSC version with nothing done with it, like vast majority of PAL PS1 games, if you force 60 hz wih an import player or something similar the game will be fullscreen and fullspeed.

[@mariopolaitalia]

come on guys!see the tekken 2 mirror stage! ithere's nothig to compare..come on..dont be silly

[@drunkensailor112]

Nikodem R lol wtf are you talking about. Pal runs 60 fps. My god all these idiots not knowing what they are talking about on youtube. Do you even know what 50hz means?

[@felipesakazaki]

Teu cu

[@ReapingRose115]

Looking back, Tekken 2 may not been as fast as VF2, but clearly it paved way for the Tekken series far more better than the first game. Everyone has their own taste, but I'm a Tekken of course but to avoid Bias, I think both games are great in their own ways

[@zodwraith5745]

Fighting game purists of the day would laugh at this comparison. Virtua Fighter and Street Fighter were "real" fighting games cause you couldn't get away with mashing buttons. Mortal Kombat and Tekken were "arcade fighters" meant for quick fun but lacked the depth for true competition. Aside from that VF was strictly locked to 60 FPS because that's critical in competition, while Tekken was all over the place. Saturn was more powerful but also harder to program for so half assed developers couldn't take advantage of it, just like PS3. Tekken tried adding a sh*tload of useless moves to compete with VF for real street cred but didn't dare change the formula to alienate casuals, leaving Tekken 2 inferior to 1 in some ways. In the end: Tekken=Mindless bashing with your buddies but full of cheap infuriating moves. VF=Bring your A game and leave your little brother at home cause button mashing doesn't work. Like arcade vs sim racing games both have their place.

[@danmann861]

Take a look at the Shun Di stage on VF2. The thing that actually impresses me the most about it is how it uses parallax scrolling on VDP1 to simulate the water moving. The backgrounds are 2D in VF2 but it still gives the illusion of movement and more activity going on in the background as opposed to Tekken 2's static lifeless backdrops. I give it to VF2 on this one. I think it's a very impressive port and a technical marvel that SEGA-AM2 managed to convert that game from a $20,000 arcade board to a system that wasn't quite known for its 3D prowess at the time. It's super impressive what SEGA pulled off with that port. Tekken 2 is still a nice looking game, but maybe less impressive to me because the Arcade Hardware it derives from was a form of the PlayStation architecture (just souped up a bit) where as VF2 is just a mightily impressive port going from the technologically superior Model 2 board down to the Frankenstein-like architecture of the Saturn.

[@wordsshackles441]

Backgrounds in VF2 are a mix of 2D and 3D with many 3D models, included animated 3dimensional palm trees like on the beach level.

[@adamthomas1246]

There is no comparison..Saturn was better..and I had both machines at the same time

[@michaelromeo9567]

And Tekken1 was released at the same time than VF 2! So the comparison should have made between tekken 1 and VF2 Arcade! But it would be too embarassing.. lol

[@TheThingKing]

You could also argue that VF2 looks better than even Tekken 3, and Tekken 3 came out 3 years later after VF2!

[@Imadeyourun]

Proof that the Saturan could do better 3D than the PS1.

[@retroboy-fh1ji]

It was harder to program, but Radiant Silvergun, Panzer Dragoon 2 Zwei, Saga, Powerslave, Quake, Duke Nukem 3d, Last Bronx, Dead or Alive and Sonic R show the superiority of the saturn hardware. No doubt it was capable of doing 3d.

[@ciredecgellar8232]

@@retroboy-fh1ji and it did actually

[@ciredecgellar8232]

VF2 has a much better resolution, characters perfectly modeled, without bugs, stable polygons, clean, detailed textures, fluid animation, details like a flowing stream, passing birds, movements of heads fighters who follow each other's movements, multi plans backgrounds. So Tekken 2 has dynamic lighting but this game also has wallpaper as backgrounds, unstable polygons, bugs, medium textures, slow animation, cubic characters , bad aliasing and a casual gameplay ......

[@engroga]

Tekken 2 has more moves (command list is greater). How can it be a "casual play"?

[@ciredecgellar8232]

@@engroga No, not even, a character like Kazuya Mishima has 35 hits and combos there or a character like Shun di in Virtua Fighter 2 has 67 .... overall Tekken characters have between 30 and 40 hits and combos there or those of VF2 have between 55 and 70. In addition there is also a mechanism of blocking, counter attack and tricks which do not exist in Tekken.

[@deckofcards87]

Virtua Fighter 2 all the way. For me, Tekken 3 is where the franchise finally stepped up to par.

[@USERA15]

Así es, el Tekken 3 ya es otra historia

[@simonrobinson1566]

The VF2 characters move around the ring with real intent. That Tekken character moves around like she's just trying on her Mum's high heels for the first time.

[@alexos8741]

Tekken 2 looks so simple in graphics, an 2d background, and 3d characters...just that. Virtua Fighter 2 has a lot more of work here, almost everything is 3d, characters, backgrounds, it moves on 60 fps. The winner to me here is VF2.

[@michaelbalbosa994]

While there is parallax scrolling going on, the backgrounds in VF2 Saturn are 2D with missing set peices on some levels(Shun Di's level the most obvious). They still look better than the mostly static backdrops of Tekken 2 tho..

[@PaiSuperChan]

Virtua Fighter 2 is the better game (fact!)

[@MrDmoney156]

THANK YOU!! I've long awaited gor someone to come upfront and say that Virtua Fighter 2 looks better graphically! because, i thought most people would say Tekken 2 looks better just cuz it's supposedly on a "popular system" like the PlayStation 1

[@tetsuokenpachi]

+MrDmoney156 Well, coming from a guy called "TekkenIsSHIT"... That's not very surprising... However, first of all, Virtua Fighter 2 uses a much higher resolution than Tekken 2 but then again, Tekken 3 also was in high resolution. Textures were better in Virtua fighter 2. VF2 also had those scaled rotating backgrounds to emulate the 3D environments from the arcade version and it had a fully rendered ring with actual boundaries. There's absolutely no doubt that Virtua Fighter 2 is a much better looking game than Tekken 2. Now, Virtua Fighter 2 doesn't have those CGI videos the Tekken franchise was famous for, nor does it have those CGI intros... If I remember well, Tekken 2 also had some extra modes... but if what you want is a good looking fighting game, VF2 for the win. It's also easier to pick up and play. All that being said... ... ... FUCK TEKKEN AND ITS SHITTY ASS COMBO SYSTEM!!!

[@MrDmoney156]

+tetsuokenpachi Yeah that series is wayyyyyy to unrealistic for my tastes! Tekken is overrated as hell imho!

[@simonjeremy1776]

Yet who is still here? Lmao

[@PrinceRalexiel]

Lmfaoooo

[@AlfaHolic916]

Virtua Fighter es un simulador de lucha. Desde la primera entrega hasta la última sega ha buscado que cada personaje ejecutase su arte marcial con la maxima fidelidad posible con respecto a la realidad. No es un juego ni facil ni accesible para todo el mundo. El VF5 es una maravilla a este nivel. Tekken es un videojuego de lucha en 3D con sus efectos visuales y su historia, que puede ser mas atractivo para cierto público. Técnicamente siempre ha estado a la sombra de Virtua Fighter. No olvidemos que VF es la saga pionera en este género y que la primera entrega de Tekken ya llegaba más tarde que la segunda de Virtua Fighter.

[@stufaman]

As much as I'm a Saturn fanboy, I did envy not having Tekken 2 back in the day. It was easier for anyone to pick up, hard to master, plus the additional characters and backgrounds made it a winner. I mean Sega had to produce Fighters Megamix as Saturn's closest alternative. But Sat VF2 is a technical marvel.

[@sdmayday]

For me it was a different story. Back in the day I was not able to understand why anyone would want a PSX over the Saturn, and VF2 was the only proof that I needed. 60 fps@highres made anything else feel totally inferior by miles! What was even more bizarre was the fact that Sega totally missed the chance to put up some tv spot with footage taken from this game (and also Sega Rally) in my country. Only few people knew about the existance of the console - what a shame!

[@stufaman]

sdmayday Which country are you in? I'm in the UK. We got naff all advertising for the Saturn over here. Tekken 2 was about the only game I envied not having on Saturn. Back in the old days, my PS1 friends would rant about the 28 characters and so on. Plus it was a little easier to pick up. Still, I was more than happy with Virtua Fighter 2. Plus we had Fighters Megamix to fit that slot.

[@sdmayday]

I am from Germany and being the only one owning a Saturn on school wasnt all that bad. I was the first one to play Tomb Raider after all. But beeing a Sega fanboy felt almost like living in an alternate reality. There was next to no media presence and thus psx was the topic on school yards. The console and great titles existed and I was the only one who new about it. I pittied psx owners for not being able to play Panzer Dragoon, but unless they were into reading multi format gaming mags there was no way for them to know better. What a shame! Everyone should have experienced that series!

[@stufaman]

sdmayday From what I gather, Saturn had a tougher time in Germany. I do remember playing Tomb Raider much sooner. Panzer Dragoon 2 is perhaps my favourite game on the system. The game still looks, sounds and plays like a dream IMO. How about Guardian Heroes? That was well ahead of it's time.

[@WeskerSega]

The United Kingdom was pretty much the only country in Europe where the Sega Saturn had some acceptance and a certain media coverage in the likes of the Official Sega Saturn Magazine (one of the best dedicated console magazines ever created for sure). The rest of us in Europe got the cold shoulder in everything regarding the Sega Saturn and that ended up showing in poor European sales aside from British ones. I knew very few people with a Sega Saturn back then. In fact, Sega Europe put a strong initial European support of the Sega Saturn with several multi-lingual Sega Saturn games like Mansion of Hidden Souls and Panzer Dragoon, and not long after that the European game localization policy of Sega Europe was switched to English only, even for some third party games published by Sega Europe for the Sega Saturn that had been localized to other languages in other platforms like Resident Evil and Tomb Raider (third party companies, on the other hand, were more akin to localise their games in all versions for all systems, including the Sega Saturn) because the Sega Saturn was bombing in pretty much everywhere in Europe except the United Kingdom, unlike what had happened with the Master System and the Mega Drive. I have to say though, the PlayStation took a while to really get on track here, because I didn't know a lot people actually having the console before mid-late 1997. Up to that point most people were still sticking with their 16-bit consoles or were PC gamers which I was too, and that actually helped a lot to complement the Sega Saturn catalogue, especially when it was starting to getting dry here.

[@costumeninja1914]

Virtua Fighter 2 for the win! Better graphics, sound, and gameplay.

[@1Coin1CreditRodrigoGARCIA]

Two games are great. The Virtua Fighter is very fast. I like Tekken 2 because of the variety of characters, music, different graphics. VF and Tekken marked the '90 Dois jogos são ótimos. O Virtua Fighter é muito rápido. Também gosto de Tekken 2 por causa da variedade de personagens, música, gráficos diferentes. VF e Tekken marcaram '90!

[@RawrX32009]

I personally prefer VF because Tekken is slow ASF

[@DTM-Books]

It's always amusing to watch casual gamers play fighting games. They tend to just mash buttons and find one move that "works." Tekken 3 was enormously popular because of Eddy Gordo, who has this elaborate gymnastics maneuver that knocks opponents silly while all you do is mash the kick buttons. Because of this, Virtua Fighter, which is much closer to a martial arts sim, never achieved more than minor cult status in the West, despite its success in Japan. As for these two videogames, they do a great job of showing off each system's strengths. VF2 is a technical showcase for Saturn's 480/60 high resolution graphics and extremely fluid motions, and Tekken 2 demonstrates the Playstation's mastery of lighting effects (without looking garish or overdone). Personally, I prefer VF2 for its far more complex and involving fighting system, as well as its stunning visuals and audio. But if you have a PSX, you definitely need to have Tekken 2 & 3 in your library.

[@demonology2629]

Wow look at that Parallax scrolling and scaling on SEGA SATURN it is killing the Sony PlayStation graphics.

[@jayclarke777]

The Saturn was better than the PS1 as far as graphics but wasn't really utilized correctly

[@mikulustudios]

Vf was coming with a lot of domination of tekken, surprised, sega always drop its own products.

[@apollosungod2819]

Some problems with this comparison that need to be understood. Sega Enterprises LTD Japan's Arcade division SEGA-AM2 was using high end, super expensive arcade boards with some very powerful processors that in total would lead to cabinets that could cost upwards of $8,000 USD equivalent or higher... so the Sega Model 1 Virtua Fighter 1993 and Sega Model 2 Virtua Fighter 2 were running on some super high end hardware basically. Namco did have a high end arcade board named the Namco System 22 or Super System 22 however they decided to use the Sony PlayStation hardware as the System 11 arcade board and thus Tekken 1 is a 1994 arcade release and a year later it is on PS1 while Tekken 2 is on the SAME hardware with some really hardcore arcade dev team doing things no other third party or first party was doing on PS1. Sega Saturn is a low cost for mass production arcade and home system so although SEGA-AM2 made VF1 by November 1994, it had to meet a deadline for the system launch and Virtua Fighter 2 is also having to meet a deadline during 1995 to give the Saturn (in Japan) another hit game... as such VF2 on Saturn is a Dec 1995 release but PS1 Tekken 2 was a 96 release.. Yeah they were sort of talked about and compared but in all seriousness a longer developed VF2 on Saturn would have taken more months to make. VF was horribly marketed by Sega of America... but the gamer magazines gave Tekken most of the repeat coverage.

[@heltoncarvalho3254]

Teken2 the best áudio, songs. Virtual Fighter 2 god game play, the best Grafics..

[@Dangerous2099]

Great example of how Saturn was actually better than PS1 at 3D even though most people think otherwise.

[@socillizt4life]

Virtua Fighter2 OWNS Tekken2 in every possible way,it’s a no brainier

[@nmcintosh8769]

Tekken. Better presentation and the moves have more impact.

[@segat-800]

Japanese Release Dates - VF2 Arcade - Nov 94 Tekken Arcade - Dec 94 Tekken PS1 - March 95 Tekken 2 Arcade - Aug 95 VF2 Saturn - Dec 95 Tekken 2 PS1 - March 96

[@pam8352]

tekken 2 run at 60fps like virtua fighter 2, the resolution is different, psx has less memory than saturn (remember that saturn was created with 2d monstrous capabilities at time) and developers preferred to use high poligon count than high resolution. (I am a Sega Fan)

[@segaunited3855]

Saturn was ALWAYS meant to be a 3D machine.

[@glaucioakira8936]

@@segaunited3855 NO, That's not true.

[@segaunited3855]

@@glaucioakira8936 Yes. Its fact. SEGA had not one, not two but THREE Next Generation machines in development back in the Early 1990s, with only one of them with 2D only in mind called MARS/Giga Drive. That was scrapped in 1992.

[@cristianpuggelli6121]

man this video brings back so many memories...thanks...great games

[@sebastiaanvanwater]

Both were the epitome of 3d console fighting games at the time. Tekken is flashier... and blockier. VF2 is flatter yet sharper. VF has better core gameplay, but Tekken is easier to jump in and start playing. Tekken also has a lot of extras compared to the more barebone VF2. Both have some classic tunes, but Tekken has the edge there. Sound effects/voices are crisper too (VF is muffled). I still prefer VF2 overall though.

[@schooltrashers]

Virtua Fighter 2 has superior graphics and sound. VF2 wins hands down.

[@NeoGeoNinja81]

VF2's is technically superior. Always was > Tekken 2. However, Namco injected a soul, feel and personality into Tekken with its character designs, story, music etc that VF can't and won't ever match. For all the depth VF offers in mechanics etc it's so shallow in so many other areas that gamers also place high importance in. Again; that typical SEGA arcade only approach that saw them die with the SAT and DC whilst the PS1 and PS2 thrived by trying to evolutionise console gaming beyond just 'arcade perfect'...

[@drunkensailor112]

NeoGeoNinja81 you have to be kidding right? Literally all tekken characters were copied straight from virtua fighter. Paul was jacky, that old tekken kung fu guy was shun di, king was wolf, law was akira etc. etc.

[@AnthonyRiddle]

VF2 definitely beats Tekken 2. It's much better looking, plays much smoother and faster, and is loads more enjoyable to play

[@kenaustin3472]

VF2 just runs circles around Tekken 2 in this video as far as graphics go. I didn't even grow up with Saturn or even like VF. The only graphical advantage Tekken may have is that it has some nice night time areas.

[@jrs4516]

look closer. tekken 2 has real time light source based shading on the models. all shading on saturn vf2 is just baked into the textures. it's the same no mater how the model is orientated.

[@bjraleigh1439]

both have their graphical strengths, so this one is very subjective without using some form of point system to judge every aspect of each game. Technical points aside, I do prefer the brighter saturated colors of VF2, as well as the artistry and overall styling of the fighters. Factoring all that I can see with the games in motion, I do feel VF2 is the superior looking fighter, but I think ones argument for either could probably be well justified.

[@SDSOverfiend]

I played both LOVINGLY!!! Had no time to be a fanboy in 96.. too much arcade quality titles to choose from.. But King Stage has to be ONE OF the BEST STAGES I EVER SAW.

[@jnieves77]

lol damn right, the 90's was on and poppin back in the day.

[@MetatroN197924]

i don't see comparison,better models vf2 tekken had blocky characters,better floor saturn,better backdrops saturn not static pictures albeit the fact that the 2 machines missing true 3d backdrops,also animation of vf is far superior in contrast to tekken robotic animation.

[@rsouth454]

Had both consoles and both games . Vf2 is smoother and faster with a bit more flow .. however its music and presentation are cheesy , tekken is just cooler and also has lighting where vf2 on saturn always looked quite flat to me . Loved it but lack of lighting is annoying

[@RAFAKSBR]

When i was a child, people and magazines tell that tekken is far superior. I have a friend that have a statement: "Tekken is like VF, but better". nowdays i think that VF 2 is far better than tekken 2. So many people fall in love with the CGs of tekken 2 and forget about the gameplay.

[@TheNintendhoe]

Why not pick Sarah Bryant and Nina Williams for the comparison?

[@fernandojronline]

Dois ótimos jogos em seus respectivos consoles. Como tenho uma queda pela sega tendo a achar melhor a versão do Saturn. Como justificativa uso o fato de não terem optado por um visual muito realista. Isso ajuda muito a amenizar o envelhecimento dos gráficos.

[@luangomes1644]

Segista saudoso.

[@paulwonderley538]

Can always remember me and my best mate being amazed by virtual fighter one in the arcades then totally blown away by Tekken 1 before the PS1 or Saturn came out I got the PS1 my friend got the Saturn and we used to argue over witch one was best I was in total denial over how good virtual fighter 2 was but I new it was miles better then any other 3d fighter of the time Tekken 3 could most prob give it a run for its money but this was out at least two years before haha fantastic game

[@drunkensailor112]

Virtua fighter 2 looks so much better despite being even a year older than tekken 2. The game also looks considerably better on my saturn due to playing pal, which has a higher resolution with custom made csync saturn rgb cabled with seperated audio. These comparison videos should be done with best possible video output and not s-video or even worse...

[@orlanzo2621]

VF 2 was a graphical masterpiece in '94, and it eats Tekken 2 alive, and Tekken 2 came out a year later, lol.

[@BigSlickStar]

VF2 has better graphics but Tekken 2 is a better game in terms of music, gameplay, storylines, Rivalries etc.

[@thesch2867]

All the things you said can be personal preference VF2 has a great soundtrack and great gameplay. I also like the more modest story it has which can be found in the manual (something i see as bonus)

[@BigSlickStar]

S.C.H 2.8 Oh VF2 is a great game probably the most impressive looking 32bit fighter I just gave the edge on Tekken 2 just because of depth and content also unlocking all the hidden characters is always fun too but you're right it comes down to personal preference at the end of the day...

[@drunkensailor112]

Adrian Bajlo tekken 2 has more depth? How on earth?

[@Rotoid]

Adrian Bajlo agreed, and there are so many secret characters in tekken 2! It is great motivation to unlock all the characters. Vf2 has no such thing.

[@yourmaster101]

These fools dont know about soul edge

[@aryinc]

tekken 2 looks like a bad played joke when compared to vf 2. Vf 2 is graphically one of the most intense games of that whole era, it even can challenge tekken 3. vf is just a portion of what a saturn ''could'' do wich is totally destroy the psx.

[@ivand5699]

What makes difficult to compare those games is that the art style can make one or another look technically superior, i think that as a technical stand point both games were pretty even, even Tekken 2 might be using a "better" "more advanced" lighting that was more taxing to the hardware. However as a matter of how it looks i agree that VF2 looks WAYYY BETTER than Tekken 2 because the art style is just better, not a matter of how much polygons but how the artist used those polygons to draw a good looking game. However i think that Tekken 3 got such a huge art style improvement that its looks better than VF2 but still VF2 looks amazing.

[@Dangerous2099]

VF2 on Saturn also looks way better than Tekken 3 on PS1 due to the fact that VF2 basically ran in HD, whereas the PS1 was a much lower res machine.

[@segaunited3855]

Tekken 2 looks like its a Mid Gen Model 1 Arcade game. Notice the lack of filtering and Diffusion on the character models. You can actually see the polygon shapes unfiltered.

[@MidTierMistake]

VF2 won because of speed of the characters

[@projectikaruga]

And superior soundtrack, and superior controllers, and superior everything else.

[@ryuushow2680]

i disagree, Tekken 2 won because of its storyline,the storyline is more important than the "speed" of the characters in Virtua Fighter 2

[@thesch2867]

Hitomi Potter But VF2 has better gameplay than Tekken 2 not to mention better visuals also Virtua Fighter games actually have a history the thing is that it's only mentioned in manuals. But having better graphics was both a blessing and a curse for the VF series mostly during it's early days on the bright side with powerful arcade hardware AM2 was able to innovate and be have better graphics than anyone else but the bad thing is that because the model 2 was powerful it also was very expensive to mass produce which means you would not see vf cabinets everywhere also porting a highly detailed game to a console wasn't easy but Namco never had these problems with Tekken because they used cheap hardware they didn't innovate or tried to be the best but at least their game was more accessible and easier to port.

[@wilderness_over]

PlayStation tekken 2

[@sonyx4500]

The Animations looks clumsy on the PS1. VF2 looked like real fighting.

[@davidalejandro3115]

I "appreciate" Virtua Fighter series, i absolutely "love" Tekken series, but in this particular case, Virtua Fighter 2 it's the winner for me

[@arshansoleymanianfar854]

Virtua Fighter 2 all day

[@sinister8739]

São games mais diferentes do que parecem. E no quesito tecnico é obvio que Virtua Fighter é bem superior. Prova máxima do poder do Saturn.

[@renatogois5966]

O virtual fighter 2 realmente é superior e muitos dizem que o SEGA Saturn não é capaz de gerar jogos em 3D e virtual fighter 2 e tecnicamente melhor é prova q o Saturn nas mãos certas tinha muito poder.

[@osvaldovelasco9797]

​@@renatogois5966saturn al igual que dreamcast fueron 2 consolas en el cual no se le llego exprimir el maximo de sus capacidades

[@sonicthejetsetbeat7465]

Again, they're both of my Childhood.

[@85bits38]

VF 2 !

[@wingzero2348]

Been off comparing tekken 2 to vf1. Vf2 is much more closer to tekken 3

[@DehnusNorder]

Saturn wins for one reason for me. Those damn floppy textures that the PSOne always had, you know that flop between positions usually on the floor and sometimes even on characters? They just... bug me.

[@Clay3613]

Nitpicking.

[@DehnusNorder]

No, I really can't stand them, they always bugged me in games of that generation.

[@retropolis1]

Yep. the playstation had no Z buffer - this made the textures warp a lot when only few polygons were used. the more polygons, the less warping.

[@segaunited3855]

@@retropolis1 PSX uses no Anti Warping Affines for Infinite Planes. Saturn uses Dual Buffering and Software Z Buffering. PSX also used simultaneous renders so it maxed out Rendered Polygons pretty quickly, but Warping as well as Texture loss and Screen Tearing was very common with PSX since unlike Saturn and N64 it couldn't Perspective Correct or Recalculate layers or Affines.

[@greatsource5405]

Tekken 2's visuals look so sloppy. The characters are unbearably ugly whether in the cut scenes or in gameplay although I prefer the way they look in gameplay because the constant glitching covers up how ugly they are a little bit. Also 6:44 the background is rotating backwards 😂

[@RedFlameFox]

Tekken has a cooler overall artistic design for characters, stages and menus, but I like the ring out thing better

[@ImWithTeamTrinity]

Sometimes, the Saturn could outperform the ps1

[@afriend9428]

*Both are good SONY had the best fmv intro but VF2 is winner* ⭐️ ⭐️

[@n64fan60]

Both classics, but for me VF2 is the better game - even on Saturn.

[@daveshen0880]

VF2 wins. But Tekken 2 has better gameplay and better music. I still play both of them on my console.

[@livebyfaith74]

I think VF2 has much better character models and seems to play better. Tekken has nicer effects and lighting. Tekkens backgrounds look good, but I would say that VF2s are more impressive for the time, I think. Not being a fan of Tekken, I chose VF2 back in the day. The game that I did wish I could get on Saturn was Soul Blade not Tekken.

[@gabrielmassa]

I didn't remember that VF2 was so much better than TK2. Sega did an awesome job. Maybe they tried to make up for the lazy VF1 they sold.

[@segat-800]

VF1 Remix made up for that

[@ENFDO]

Vf2 is a serious stuff, the best in any aspect, besides the segas efford to port a nasa machine in a console pretty hard to develope. Tekken 2 is okay, good intro and long term play.

[@nevermind824]

Vf2 looks far more fluid than tekken2. I had a lot of fun playing Vf2 and tekken 3,however.

[@StigMug]

Virtua Fighter wins by a long way. Still enjoy Tekken though.

[@USERA15]

Virtual fighter 2 wins

[@LexMalin]

Hard choice. Both games are good. But VF2 looks better and have more dynamical gameplay. In technically, i think, VF2 wins. But, i repeat, both games are good.

[@feps9555]

Virtua Fighter 2 sem dúvida alguma tem gráficos mais bonitos e roda com uma fluência absurda de 60 FPS mas não possui fundos poligonais como no arcade mas ganha do arcade até em resolução é a prova máxima de quando bem trabalhado o Saturno mostrava maravilhas pode não ser igual ao arcade mas considerando as capacidades 3d do saturno Virtua Fighter 2 da uma surra técnica em qualquer jogo de Ps1.

[@giovannimarcelodasilva768]

Soul Edge Manda Lembranças...

[@giovannimarcelodasilva768]

Saturn é que nem o Ps4 Hoje em dia muito Fraco sem comparado ao XBOX ONE em se tratando de Games de qualidades e claro dentre outras Coisas...

[@ElricSowrd]

Make the Virtua Fighter 2 side as loud as the Tekken 2 side.

[@sandromarmelo3008]

It would be more fair if you compare VF2 with Tekken 3... Even so, VF2 was released 3 years before Tekken 3, and this should make us all think how a technical achievement VF2 was

[@TheThingKing]

Virtua Fighter 2 is already at a disadvantage with being compared to Tekken 2 let alone Tekken 3, because Tekken 2 came out a year after Virtua Fighter 2, and one year is a long time when it comes to game programming advancements. So both Tekken 2 and Tekken 3 are newer than Virtua Fighter 2 and yet Virtua Fighter 2 in some aspects looks better than even Tekken 3.

[@nezxd5516]

Backgrounds on Tekken are just a picture. Very bad.

[@Vectorman2X]

tekken characters move like they had arthritis

[@ClevertonHeusner]

O único trunfo de Tekken sobre VF é que qualquer bebê domina a jogabilidade, fazendo com que um jogador treinado possa perder para qualquer louco esmagador de botões. O mesmo não acontece em VF, que traz uma mecânica mais profunda e dominada por profissionais, cenário onde o casual não teria chance.

[@engroga]

Se alguém perde para um bebê então são 2 bebês jogando. Isso é desculpa de mal perdedor.

[@miguelroman4294]

I gotta say that who ever is playing lacked any kind of fighting skills what so ever! it's more than clear that the differculty was set to easy cause anybody that really played vf2 on normal or hard settings would never be able to button smash there way to the end so easily! the AI in vf2 would own you for trying to play like that as well as tekken 2. these types of games are better if played with skill. I always thought tekken 2 looked good back in the day, however looking at vf2 next to it showed me how much better vf2 looks and play's with its stunning animation and back drops! the Sega Saturn in the right hands was capable of better graphics than the ps1. what a big difference when utilizing VDP1 and VDP2 together as a pose to using just one VDP1 alla most third party game's. vf2 is a shinning example of the true power of the Saturn, as well as Panzers Dragoon 2, Saga and Quake 2 to name a few!

[@vcdecide]

Virtua Fighter 2 (Arcade vs Sega Saturn) with Jackye kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2XZoWaaqq92kK8 Virtua Fighter 2 (Sega Genesis vs Sega Saturn) with Pai kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5DVh6Gkespsb7M Virtua Fighter 2 (Arcade vs Pc) with Akira kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYiQgX-Xad2HnNU Tekken 2 (Arcade vs Playstation) with Paul kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioKyZIVqZr95ibM

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

All those years later fighting in the playground ~ just say ~ told ya so. Vf2!

[@LGDRetrogamer]

Dois belos jogos do estilo.

[@BurritoKingdom]

VF2 is the better game but Tekken 2 is the better port. Namco added so much when they brought the game over from the Arcades to the PlayStation, while Sega just did a downgrade port to the Saturn

[@jayclarke777]

$20,000 Model 2 versus $400 Saturn. AM2 did well

[@SylveonTrapito]

I stick with Vf for the gameplay. Tekken is pretty good but I like to download combinations while holding block and lots of catch combinations.

[@xtremegold2950]

vf2 wins it had cleaner smoother character models and more parallax background other animation moving like the river boat etc ,wind blowing , and when a character gets beat up accesories falls.on the ground.also they aint blocky like tekken 2 tk2 is a great game but .the graphics are blocky.

[@christianorthodoxy4769]

Both are incredible games 🎉

[@gcforreal]

I'ma Tekken fanboy specifically t3. But man vf2 wins by a landslide and try playing vf2 and t2 today and see how badly t2 has aged ....

[@yjzep9922]

Honestly, it wasn't Sega vs Sony back in 95-97, It was Sega vs Namco. And if course sega vs sega lol (managing a game store we'd never get new saturn games in, i had to buy them somewhere else).

[@vh9network]

Where's your video comparison of Virtua Fighter 2 Arcade vs Tekken Arcade. Both games came out a month a part in Q4 of 1994 in Japan. They were certainly compared to each other from review magazines all over. I remember reading about them in the Gamer Informer magazines I was subscribing to at the time.

[@oldschoolsaturn7020]

Saturn will this hands down. VF 2 is probably the best looking fighter of that generation. I think AM2 took a step backwards with Fighters Megamix regarding graphics..

[@metronome8471]

Tekken is a Virtua Fighter fanfic.

[@Ai-fj1dc]

... But which one has the best gameplay ? It's the only thing I want to know.

[@Wintericecrystal]

Hard to say. One thing I didn't like was the VF2 moon gravity jumping.

[@Ai-fj1dc]

Wintericecrystal oh, I see

[@egg64]

Better Game: VF2 Better Port: Tekken 2