Visma ISOLATES Pogačar in CROSSWINDS

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[@AbudYusuf]

Bini is in a good form this year he’s doing all this amazing things on his own imagine if he had lead out like the other teams wow 🇪🇷

[@tonycrabtree3416]

Yeah, his 3rd place today was awesome. Ultimately moved to 2nd with Philipsen getting relegated.

[@PazLeBon]

lol the other teams lead outs are crap too

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Looks like his team is start to help more. 🤔🤞🦋

[@savagepro9060]

@@ChrisHornerCycling not quite, he is usually on his own foraging for holes to borrow through

[@painterQjensen]

@@savagepro9060 Wassent that how Peter Sagan won most of his stage wins also? ;) nice looking dark green jersey this year ( thou my favorit will always be the crazy picture I have in my head of Abjudavadov wearing one) -> Tour de France 1991 - Etape 22 - la grosse chute Djamolidine Abdoujaparov et la victoire de Konyshev

[@brianzimny]

"You don't bump with Alexander Kristoff..." BECAUSE HE'S A VIKING!

[@bombadil314]

Saw a barber shop yesterday, named Knuckleheads! Tomorrow's stage gonna be fire. No hiding!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🤪😂👊🦋🔥

[@savagepro9060]

Super Heroes at Le Tour 2024: Biniam the Green Hornet, the villain Jasper Disaster, and Gronewegan the Batman! Pass the Dijon Mustard!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Oh man, the sunglasses would leave even a worse tan line. 😂👊🦋

[@AQUPAS]

Todays TT should be interesting. Remco is the obvious favorite, he is only 45 seconds behind Tadej. Also excited to see how Jonas performs on this TT.

[@ericvonhellens8822]

Thank you, Chris & Garrett. Great work, guys.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋

[@ZENmud]

Jasper took that intermediate Sprint whilst crossing in front of four opponents, from racers' left to right. So his relegation was for his second transgression 😂

[@JwallzMTB]

dude never learns i dont get it.

[@barryrobbins7694]

Actually, Axel Zingle sounds like a good alternative name for a bunny hop. It was Axel Zingle ( 1:26 ) that bunny hopped Mads Petersen ( 2:49 ) in the previous stage.

[@andyjk5974]

thanks Chris for this. im sure you spend soo much time getting everything done for us to see. greetings from Tanzania

[@KiboTennis]

@ChrisHornerCycling if I had a wish for this channel, it would be a series of educational videos, that explain the tactical foundations of team cycling. -What tactical options does a team have if they have more helpers than the rival rider in a group? -why does it help so much to have only 1 helper when going uphill? Draft doesn’t play a big role, is it psychological? How would a 2 vs 1 situation play out going up Alpe d‘huez? -how can a team fight a single rider from another team, who is free-riding. ……. It would elevate my viewing to the next level if I understood more of the fundamental tactics involved. Team Horner has already opened up a whole new world for me, and they are doing a fantastic job, pointing out WHAT happens, but missing a little bit of explanation of the implication /what-if for me as a relative newbie. Thanks for your Content 🤜🤛

[@picodegallo1959]

Love the storytelling. Niiiiice!

[@cooldude.1811]

You never see Pog missing a trick. His team and DS not so much.

[@CycoWarriorx]

I’m glad Philipsen got regulated for cutting off WVA today… he should’ve gotten regulated for that stage 5 sprint swerve… doesn’t make up for the two last season, but I’ll take it. 🍻

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

It’s late coming but at least the officials finally did it. 🍻🦋👍

[@elizabethhunter5182]

Agreed. He is consistently a danger to the other riders, and he doesn't seem to learn.

[@philipkoop9411]

What was particularly dumb about Phillipsen's move is that it didn't help him. On the contrary. He had van Aert beaten and if he had held his line, he would have been able to block any rider coming up behind and nobody could say boo. It was just a heads-I-lose, tails-you-win decision.

[@ZENmud]

The fact he deviated from "online" to blocking Wout might have equated the one-quarter wheel length, by which he lost..? Ride straight and win!🎉😂

[@philipkoop9411]

​@@ZENmudYeah, maybe.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Agreed. Plus second or third gives a ton of green points. Last and a penalty does not. 😳🦋👊

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

He was extending his lead on WvA at the time nearly crash him into the barrier. He lost from Dylan with 1 or 2 inches. He would’ve been 1st or second if he went straight.

[@margusmikson794]

These moves can end tragically, so I hope, he is learning from it and dont waste MVDP leadout for nothing.

[@dcrunicycles]

Thank you. Well done

[@dcrunicycles]

🚵‍♀️ Thank you . I watch lanterne rouge, cycling Dane, beyond the podium and chris horner. I am a newbie to the tdf, so, all four of you shine a brilliant light on the confusions of the tdf that This newbie has. Thank You .From 6,000ft truckee ca.

[@CliftonDon74]

Very exciting analysis, Chris! On the surface, Stage 6 looked like a calm and otherwise "boring" ride, but there is usually strategy and drama underneath as you peel the onion.

[@SuppleKingdom]

Let's goooooooo!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

[@tonilauge5786]

Horner OUT Sprints YT Cycle Channels With Clickbait head titles by FAR! Despite a Massive Disadvantage In time👍 Don't Matter Stage Analyze Extremely Good Capeau👑🏆😜🔝❤️

[@roberthotter7008]

So true, often i wait for hours to look, especially for the TT, where he is far better than any live coverage

[@tonilauge5786]

@@roberthotter7008 Huge Vingegaard Fan Result -25 secs to Podacar! Far better Than Feared 😘 👍🔝❤️

[@deadliaski]

Epic commentary!! Glad I found your channel 🦋

[@eljeferaider]

The road traffic obstacles and communication are so bad this year that visma is just staying to one side of the road. UAE is kinda all over the place but neither team is controlling the peloton.

[@Calidastas]

I swear they try to engineer wrecks for the views. Nasty downhill finish with wet sections on the Col Du Galibier? Nasty splits with tight turns at high speed? Come on…

[@PazLeBon]

and getting in he way despite the 4km 5km thing

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Europe loves road furniture. 🪑 😱🦋

[@PazLeBon]

@@ChrisHornerCycling too difficulit for smericans if they have to turn the wheel of thier truck never mind deal with an island lol

[@ahwinds9256]

Thanks for the most insightful, informative and interesting breakdown sir. I haven not missed a single one of them since the tour started.

[@AmerETF]

Chris, today Johan Bruyneel showed Strava files from stage 5 from Tadej and Remco. Remco burned 2800 but Tadej only 1600 calories. Looks like Pogi is very efficient in the Peloton. Would be cool to hear your take on this.

[@RonHaskell]

Top 5 Iconic duos 1) Phillipsen and riding people into barriers 2) Batman and Robin 3) Shaggy and Scooby 4) Bonnie and Clyde 5) Peanut butter and jelly

[@wildly_heather]

the peanut butter and chocolate erasure! 😂😂

[@PazLeBon]

how is that a duo tht works well? doh

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Exactly 🦋👍

[@dickieblench5001]

Groenowegan and Robin

[@rjhawkins6538]

6. Garrett and Chris Horner

[@keyboard_g]

These sunglasses crack me up.

[@jonathanzappala]

Makes me think of Batman when I see them 😂

[@rosshole]

@@keyboard_g Comes w an optional coke tray...for that final 10 k. He does have the most perfectly preserved nose in the peloton.

[@k-towncinty]

You can always have faith in Visma's strategies.

[@salvatoretalarico325]

Totally agree - they have an amazing group of people behind the racers. However, let’s see if Tadej and Remco will repay them off tomorrow in the TT…

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

I can’t agree with that but they win often with that much muscle. Now who ever is doing the training, that guy I like. 💪🦋👊

[@salvatoretalarico325]

@@ChrisHornerCycling I agree that they have amazing coaches, but they have shown in the past two TDFs not only good muscles, but also great minds: Tadej looked like a rat in the hands of Visma's Team in 2022- people sent out early to help pull in key climbs, attack from right and left and traps at every corners. Of course you need a good and strong team to do so, but this year UAE and Ineos have better teams than Visma, but still have not seen anything like that from those two. While the TDF is still ongoing, I still believe Visma has better strategists than other teams. Maybe you can give us your analysis of the overall strategies of each team at the end of the Tour? I would love to hear your detailed view.

[@ldcow3948]

@@salvatoretalarico325I agree with that some times but in the I think 22 tour maybe 23 jumbo isolated Pogi on one of the early mountain stages it was 3-4 jumbo riders to only pogi. Jumbo were putting in a pace trying to drain him, but pogi was still able to take some time off Jonas. I don’t know if that’s just a show of how great Pogi is or if Jumbo doesn’t quite know how to attack him all the time.

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

In 2022 Jumbo Visma destroyed Pog as a team. They had WvA up the road on the galabier as the appetizer and the Gradon for desert. Jonas and Primoz were attacking an isolated Pogacar over and over again. In the end Tadej decided to go up as fast as he could dropping everyone but Jonas. The. At the top WvA was having a Wee and a bike change. Saw them go past an took all the dropped guys back to Jonas and Tadej. You could see Tadej’s face like is it one of those days. Then Jumbo started pacing uphill. Jonas giving him the final blow. He cracked completely. Visma knows how to crack Pogacar. But it takes strategy and a valiant team effort. I doubt they have the quality available to do so this year.

[@angelamacchi977]

Go Jonas V. .!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

❤️🦋👊

[@thaidomain]

Amazing how you can get excited about these sprint stages. I don’t watch them, mostly to avoid seeing the crashes (which I am sure are what a lot of people are looking for). In my opinion, the riders participating in these sprints are the true knuckleheads.

[@rosshole]

@@thaidomain This is road racing. Maybe TTs, Zwift, or roller races are more your thing. (not that there's anything wrong with that 😂)

[@janefreeman995]

To me, the fun part of watching cycling are all the ways riders can win according to their specialties. Also, I began following when Peter Sagan was starting to win. Anticipating his wins became more compelling to follow than gc. In track what's more exciting watch the sprints or a marathon?. I appreciate it all, tho. ...

[@thaidomain]

@@janefreeman995 In track, whether in sprints or marathons, the participants do not maim each other. Actually I can enjoy cycling sprints on tracks, usually between 2 or a few competitors. These bunch sprints on the road are a different matter, and were also different a few decades ago, when there hardly were any 'trains' and when there were much less competitors.

[@LeeLee-fi7mx]

I agree, it seems like there are some sprinters and teams that win races not based on pure speed but on taking the most risks while putting others in danger. The time trial and mountain stages should be exciting though.

[@gaspi91]

I partly agree, peloton is always so nervous when we get a sprint stage and is dangerous. 2 stages in a row had poor warnings before a sign, couple this with curve to curve and you get those annoying crashes. I do appreciate sprinters though, is part of racing. I think they are brave af bumping and going 70km/h.

[@cb6866]

Thanks Chris and Garrett....Remco today ?? Papillon rules !

[@pascalbocherel7785]

Chris, how many racing jerseys do you have? Your garde-robe must be larger than any top models!

[@koosreitsma1171]

Great analyse. Too bad Ineos didn't coöperate in the windy-section, to gain time on a lot of riders in the second peleton. So it was only up to Visma LAB and Bora-Hans Groha. Totally correct Philipsen got relegated.

[@joebriggs8422]

Really looking forward to the tt. I heard Tadej increased his watts output by 15 since the Giro, and is 1.5kg lighter, by my math a ~6.2% increase in power to weight. Remco has been quoted as saying he's focused on the tt stage win.

[@rosshole]

*Magnus Cort Nielsen, not Nelson

[@m.k.4343]

And "Girmay", not "Grimay"

[@samcooke2742]

"They've been fighting for their lives for the whole length of this stage." I don't have Chris's inside the peloton perspective, but when they're packed like sardines and no doubt everyone knows who farted when somebody cuts one, life just doesn't seem that desperate.

[@jordanburns4041]

Phillipsen getting relegated makes perfect sense with how he sprinted today, I mean what's so hard with going straight pass Wout Van Aert without moving over clear as day to cut him off. I know Phillipsen has talent and he is clearly one of the top Sprinters but make decisions like that and you will not win the Green Jersey. Congrats to Gronewegan🦇 I know people hate him with how he races as well and how dirty he can be in the sprints but I honestly grown on Gronewegan and I would've felt bad if he didn't win a stage this year in the Tour but I didn't think he would beat Phillipsen without the relegation. 🤯👊🦋🦋

[@stevenmeyer9674]

What did Phillipsen's relegation have to do with Gronewegan winning the sprint?

[@jordanburns4041]

@@stevenmeyer9674 read my comment again it's literally separated on purpose.

[@PazLeBon]

it was harsh ithought, WVA was already beat

[@rosshole]

@@jordanburns4041 I've read your final point about Phillipsen a few times and still can't figure it out. Please explain.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Oh those sunglasses. 🕶️ 🦇🦋👍

[@autorelight]

The "Almost" stage.... bring on tomorrow.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋🔥

[@Lapsontheboy]

Remco has no chance today, he is already to tired...pogi takes it all💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨

[@johnyboy2934]

I think intermarche was the knucklehead team in stage 5 and 6 in my opinion in stage 6 i haven't seen them onece leading out bini....they weren't even ther in the front in 5,4,3 km forget about under 2km bini was all alone fighting for position......like arkea and uno x are much much better even though they're smaller teams especially uno x i don't know they got the special sauce in them they're miraculous ain't thrm?

[@cruchot555]

I have to say that I enjoy this years TDF very much. Everybody who means something in the world of cycling is competing and perthaps most importantly there haven't been any major crashes like during the past years. I hope it remains so. Also very glad that Mads Pedersen is OK. It's funny how little we see Bora Hansgrohe and Roglic. Are they out of form or is this some sort of sneaky tactic?

[@PazLeBon]

theres been crahes and it hardly started yet

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Form is behind for them. But Roglic will hopefully find a bit more soon. 🤞🦋🤔

[@stephenmagee3766]

So going back to yesterday. Cav and Jasper both got "warned" for sprint. Not sure what that means. Today Cav gets fined loses points and Jasper gets religated and loses points. Is the jury getting tougher? I thought yesterday was worse causing Pederson to get injured. Again Cav two bike changes always messing with equipment.

[@PazLeBon]

and the most wimming rider ever. youre questioning him? lolololol

[@rosshole]

@@stephenmagee3766 Cav's chain got jammed in his BB, on his main bike. He changed bikes. His mechs fixed main bike. He switched back to main bike. He's a perfectionist with his equipment, just as Eddy was.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

When Cav and Jasper went left in stage 5 the road exactly to their left was clear. I believe the officials need to stop letting the sprints go all over the place when the sprinters are already in the lead and it’s a straight line to the finish. But from what have watched previously the official have been allowing a sprint to move left or right so long as the road is clear enough for them to go left or right. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤔😱🦋

[@trevorcostello2057]

Break it down!!!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋

[@eljeferaider]

The disaster should have been relegated last years tour. Today was nothing in comparison.

[@wildly_heather]

But, I think it’s important that the UCI set the tone early, unlike last year, where they let the first one go, and then had to let all of the rest because of precedence.

[@PazLeBon]

@@wildly_heather losin 60 points or so? thats wel over e top

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Yep. It’s not that difficult of a job to do. Who ever is viewing the tape of the sprint must have never raced a bike before. 😱🦋👍

[@PazLeBon]

@@ChrisHornerCycling more like we race toughrer in a crit so sounds like you havent

[@gobears6487]

Not reading comments, not seen spoilers, getting 100% of our TdF news from Chris tonight. 👍🚴‍♀️👍🦋 Happy 4th 💥🎇🎆🧨

[@dcrunicycles]

Chris, wonderful DI. The sprinters. Did they burn the most calories during stg 2 tdf 2024?

[@ffskierdune6226]

Finally Phillipsen gets relegated.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Exactly 🦋👍

[@xander0901]

The Peacock commentators were talking about how they missed the lack of breakaway attempts on today’s stage and I was wondering what your thoughts are on this trend. I get that being out in front gives you good TV time, especially if you are a small team or an invited team, but I also understand wanting to keep your powder dry if you’re not a sprinting team in a stage race with multiple big time sprinters.

[@diggsfather]

it’s probably more tactically sound to not form a break, but certainly more boring for us to watch at home

[@KiboTennis]

Can someone explain, why it was so „dangerous“ for Pogi to be alone in this first group? What would have been the worst case for him? How could VLAB have done damage or significantly benefitted? JV drafted alone for hours with UAE during the Galibier stage and there wasn’t the same uproar. It is a serious question from a newbie viewer. 🙏🏼

[@southface06]

I'm also quite a newbie, but one reason is that there would be no teammate to bring him bottles and snacks.

[@Nielsen99999]

I think you don't tell much about what would happen if Tadei Pogacar have a puncture when he was isolated in the sidewind, sorry for the spelling I'm danich 🙈

[@1dree1]

I didn't understand why Abrahamsen didn't sit up 5k later ...would have earned him 20 more points without having to do too much for that. Most likely he's not going to end up in green but ....if I get these 20 pts handed over like that ..I wouldn't throw them away in that situation.

[@ardnax]

Same, didn't understand that at all, unless they were sure they were gonna be swamped by the peloton before getting there 🤷‍♀

[@1dree1]

@@ardnax Yes, but I kinda feel like that wasn't the case. The peleton was going really slow and Zingle/Abrahamsen almost competely stopped 4-5k before the sprint to get caught. Like they weren't even pedalling anymore. I really don't get this.

[@matthoffman6024]

👍

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Matt 👍 👊🏆🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

[@johanf9279]

Which was not a problem.

[@jonathanfreet9099]

No wout in the sprints?

[@wildly_heather]

I might say, I’m slightly disappointed that the title wasn’t a play on yesterday‘s title “HE WAS RELEGATED 20 min after the photo finish”. Arrow work on point, though :)

[@PazLeBon]

lol

[@wildly_heather]

The UCI also fined and docked Cav and Lutsenko for drafting the cars, lest anyone think only Jasper was penalized.

[@stephenmagee3766]

Bauhaus as well

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Cav I had no issue with because it was a mechanical. But it looked like he did a lot of complaining which will never help. 😂🦋👊

[@spacemouse4716]

No knuckleheads?! I feel empty inside.

[@PazLeBon]

horner has knucklehands

[@willavinou1507]

No further comment on Jaspers relegation, Chris? Or was it just too clear-cut for u to say any more??😅 Still, after hearing yr take on Cav yesterday it would be nice to hear yr thoughts on this one!!!🦋

[@PazLeBon]

cavs move was fine

[@willavinou1507]

@@PazLeBon More than fine, it was GENIUS! But Chris hinted that it could've been a risk, although I think he was just being contrary!😂

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

The moment I saw it happen, i thought the officials have to do something. The race coverage end and I was seriously thinking what the hell. How does Jasper keep second. I could have chatted forever on both yesterday and today’s sprinting but then the video wouldn’t have been ready until tomorrow. But yes I thought Jasper was in the wrong. And clearly in the wrong. 😱👊🦋

[@PazLeBon]

@@ChrisHornerCycling i didnt , it isn't schoolboy stuff, its supposed to be a battle, if want lanes go find a velodrome :)

[@willavinou1507]

@@ChrisHornerCycling Thx, Chris!👊🦋 One thing's for sure~this year's Tour is super exciting and competitive!!! Can't wait to see how it all unfolds~🤩

[@n.heroep2786]

Today's stage, is kinda meh, until the sprint. Tadej said he wasn't even stressed out with the split. He said, he would come back. Finally Philipsen got relegated. He has a habit of pushing people out of his way. And he has been getting away with it. Tomorrow, there's no bluffing for Jonas. Either he has it or not. Roglic probably the weakest of the 4. So far he got dropped twice. I'm not sure if Roglic was just trying to be there and there about, and wait for the week 3? (since he has a history of fading on week 3). Tadej was so dominant in the Giro ITT, let's see if that's just because he was in a kiddy pool. Ayuso LOL.. I'm sure he'll go full gas, and Almeida won't let him have the fun of it. These two would be fun to watch.

[@salvatoretalarico325]

Very well summarized!

[@PazLeBon]

if wasnt kinda meh it wouldnt be a bloody sproint stage would it

[@scottf3456]

I'm interested to see how Remco does in the tt.

[@PazLeBon]

whats to wonder?

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Me too. 🤔🦋🤞🔥

[@PazLeBon]

@@ChrisHornerCycling If I thought Chris read all the comments id have been far more mature :) it is 4am my excuse

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

@Paz How much time he will gain on his peers today.

[@PazLeBon]

@@barneyklingenberg4078 20 s maybe?

[@ZBicyclist]

Once they bring in the yellow card system, will Phillipsen get the first one?

[@charliedillon1400]

They will have his picture on them.

[@eljeferaider]

Why is no team controlling the front? It’s leading to chaos everywhere. Is the lead out train era over for sprint stages?

[@PazLeBon]

cos the leaders re just too strong for the teams

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

The level is pretty even out there for the moment. I’m curious to see if that changes soon after a few more stages have finished. 🤔🦋💪

[@timothyskattum950]

Loved this edition Chris. So,,, Will Jonas upset this tour tomorrow? Is Tadej going to nuke em’ all? Will Wout surprise us un-surprisingly with a stunning stage 7? Or is it just fact the Remco will light the entire thing up?

[@J-cz7yv]

My top 3 in no order is Remco Pog and Almeida. What about you? I see Tadej’s lead goes to near 2 minutes on Jonas.

[@PazLeBon]

probabaly just 4 riders within 30 secs of each other

[@PazLeBon]

@@J-cz7yv jonas is better than pogs when fit so has to be top 3

[@J-cz7yv]

@@PazLeBon wouldn’t say that is true. Outside of last years tour I think Pog has been faster than Jonas in every single TT. Seeing how the very next stage went it’s possible he wasn’t completely fit for that TT either. Tomorrow we’ll see though!

[@Murda2615]

@@J-cz7yvI say this is pretty accurate but tadej does have a chance to upset remco here. It’s gonna be tight. Unfortunately I don’t think Jonas is gonna be doing any damage. I say he lose another 40 seconds to a minute

[@MrBradfordchild]

Visma may have isolated Pog for a while, but it didn’t seem to make any effect. Or did I miss something?

[@recrevs963]

Why is WvA sprinting? Sure he can do it and he won on the Champs before but I doubt the risk taken vs beating top 10 sprinters is worth it. For TT is there anyone outside of GC guys that can win it or is it pretty much Remco and the rest of GC fellas? I donno Bissinger and Kung never win, maybe Sobrero but lets pick Campernaets though he wasn't TTing well lately. And remco in yellow.

[@tonisisinger4646]

Its normal, UAE have a climbing team.

[@rosshole]

*Nils Politt, not Nils "Paullete" ???

[@timliscum2861]

🙄

[@PazLeBon]

his naming is terrible

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

I already know how to spell Nils name so you not are helping me any here. Either you have to learn to give me the correct phonetics or get used to my pronunciation 😂🦋

[@rosshole]

@@ChrisHornerCycling pol-it Like politics without the 'ics' 👍🦋

[@KiboTennis]

@@ChrisHornerCyclingit’s quite easy. Poll-it. Like Hobbit

[@eljeferaider]

So is visma staying on one side of the road the entire stage because of crosswinds or so many obstacles in the middle of the road? 😭

[@PazLeBon]

just safer for jonas

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

The side is a bit easier to control than the center. 🤔🦋👊

[@hutchy_4297]

I heard Tadej was pulling up there when he was isolated?

[@wildly_heather]

He was, I saw Eurosport mention it was because it was easier to take a pull and rotate through then try and hang on the back. He could have also just not known that none of his team made it in the first group with him, as well.

[@nfeht2]

When team Visma was pulling hard and split the group they were pulling in double paceline with Jonas doing some hard pulls himself. Tadej was on the front just to rotate through and stay on Jonas's wheel. Other than that he stayed out of the wind.

[@PazLeBon]

@@nfeht2 the wind broke it and a mis-mismags, it wasnt visma trying it, trying would have been pointless and wasted energy

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

He should be. No reason to help that group go anywhere. 🤔🦋👍

[@xyzct]

Can someone please explain why curb to curb implies the peloton is nervous. Thanks.

[@charliedillon1400]

The teams on the front can go curb to curb to force the speed to go down in order to give the group a chance to reorganize and chill out, and to prevent other riders from going up the road.

[@xyzct]

@@charliedillon1400, excellent. Much appreciated :-)

[@dr.merlot1532]

Jasper Japarov.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

True that. Crazy times back in the day. 😳😱🤔🦋

[@willavinou1507]

@@ChrisHornerCycling Come on, man~if Jasper's a 'disaster', then Abdou was a CATASTROPHE!😂

[@willavinou1507]

@@dr.merlot1532 He's close, maybe~but NO-ONE compares to the mighty Abdou for causing destruction!😅💣💥

[@allisonking785]

Why Philipsen has the habit of blocking riders?

[@lisakeller9887]

It's about time that Philipsen is facing the consequences. There were a few times last year when he should have been relegated as well.

[@stevesims-d6c]

Wout lost 2-3 places because of Jasper. They penalize Jasper but Wout gets no remedy.

[@SweetLike]

I watched Jasper Phillipsen sprint all last year and this year… he always throws the bike at the line. But he didn’t yesterday, stage 5. Any thoughts why?

[@cjredMX]

he knew he got caught haha

[@dumbyfiddler2376]

If you are talking about losing to Cav. He was behind the missile and had no shot. Stage 6, he knew he was getting relegated. It was clear by his demeanor after the race. He was mad at himself, the winner, Wout, the race, and the world. He holed himself in the bus to calm down. He has a ton of pressure to show up and not be Jasper the disaster like he did last year. Nothing is going his way as he is getting out sprinted. He doesn't have the same aura around him of winning when he is losing.

[@SweetLike]

@@dumbyfiddler2376 not today stage 6, yesterday, stage 5. VdP pulled off earlier than he usually does and Jasper didn’t seem to try…. Again, I’ve always seen him throw a bike at the line. It’s drilled into every sprinter. I am curious on Chris’s take on it , but thanks for your comment too

[@dumbyfiddler2376]

​@SweetLike no doubt. If you rewatch yesterday's last 1km of the stage, Cav was too far ahead. Jasper wasn't even on Cav's wheel close to the line, and Cav had time to start celebrating slightly before the line. It was a situation that throwing the bike might get you on Cav's wheel, but he was purely beat.

[@PazLeBon]

he did anyway whilst looking over to his left, poss cost him the race

[@mrsewe417]

UAE Team flatters to deceive once again. Who said knuckleheads?

[@timmick6911]

Agrorithm 🎉

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Thanks 👊🦋

[@xyzct]

Can someone please explain if the rider pushed against the wall and forced to brake gets any points and/or time compensation for the setback? What if he otherwise would have placed high, or even won?

[@joebriggs8422]

No, unfortunately for them, unless the crash (or mechanical) occurs in the final 3 to 5km (3 km since 2005, currently up to 5km being phased in, depending on the logistics of the stage finish) in which case they get the finishing times of the group they were riding in (they have to make to the finish for this to apply).

[@xyzct]

@@joebriggs8422, so when Philipsen cut off van Aert against the wall, Philipsen got relegated, at great cost, but van Aert is just plain out of luck? That seems weird because it would seem a team could use a sacrificial rider to do that against a would-be winner.

[@savagepro9060]

Tomorrow Vingegaard rips off that 50-second deficit, like an old worn-out tire!

[@viniciusfreitas2218]

Remco will put 1min in everyone :D

[@patrickwong4824]

How many watts do you save with the Aero Beak at €350?

[@Frostbiker]

However much that money weighted burning in your wallet, I guess.

[@Shadowboost]

Supposedly 0. Scicon made it for the classics for water to not get in. I have two pairs of Aeroscope and that would not save anything

[@timliscum2861]

its mental horsepower

[@PazLeBon]

@@timliscum2861 its gullibilty, very important for bike sellers

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

0. I want to see what the tan line looks like after a good month of early summer training. 😂🦋👊

[@miguelantunes5978]

Primeiro! First!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Almost. Second but you will not be relegated because it was clean race. 😂🦋👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

[@miguelantunes5978]

@@ChrisHornerCycling kkkkk every day waiting for you comment. Can't sleep without that piece of information. Keep the brilliant job!

[@salvatoretalarico325]

what’s your thoughts about tomorrow TT? Do you think Jonas will hold the gap with the two in front or blow?

[@J-cz7yv]

Idk about blow but I wouldn’t be surprised if Tadej’s lead grows to near 2 minutes. What about you? Who’s your top 3?

[@PazLeBon]

prob lose 30 secs or so id imagine on those 2

[@salvatoretalarico325]

The TT seems short, but still requires some high thresholds on the hilly part and has a technical descent. Idk neither but I suspect Remco and Tadej will gain probably 20/30 seconds over Jonas. Roglic is really a question mark. Top three for me: Pogj, Remco and WVA.

[@PazLeBon]

@@salvatoretalarico325 werte talking about literally 1km/hr difference. so say 53 versus 52? so.. 25 secs :)

[@salvatoretalarico325]

@@PazLeBon right - that is exactly what I had in mind. If Remco won’t have his usual bad day(s) along this TDF, he has a real shot at getting podium.

[@goatbloat8233]

Jasper the barrier disaster. Poor big guy. He was 7th but would have been higher...probably not podium but you could see his annoyance when he had to hold up.

[@dumbyfiddler2376]

@goatbloat8233 He has a family. He was annoyed, but he is smart enough to plan on riding another stage than to be laying in the hospital. At the end of the day, it is clear the green Jersey for Wout isn't a priority for Visma or Wout this year. He hasn't been there on every intermediate and sprint finish like he was when he won it in the past. He is clearly marked as a super domestique for Jonas that can help him win the Tour. The team is going all in for the yellow jersey. They are gonna let Wout be up there to take a shot, but super smart to pull the plug when he was being pit into the barrier. He has nothing to lose being up there contesting a win. I forsee Wout getting a chance to win a stage or two later into the Tour. The big man was shut down last year. As a father of three myself, he probably was thinking about other things than winning a tour stage.

[@PazLeBon]

@@dumbyfiddler2376 hes all in for a stage, he aint strong enough to be domestique this year

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Disaster. For sure. Mads knew just how far he can take it on stage 3. The officials still should not allow what Cav did yesterday. And Jasper refuses to bend to the new rules. 😱🦋🤔

[@goatbloat8233]

@@dumbyfiddler2376 oh yeah I agree he had no choice but to hold up. He probably isn't going for green this year and just wanted a chance at a stage win. Still frustrating to get iced out of where you could be even if you will not win the stage.

[@01FozzyS]

Would love to see Bini win Green.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋

[@savagepro9060]

Only if the TT results allow him to! He is NOT a TT man!

[@rosshole]

@@savagepro9060 ?

[@lowliquidity]

@@savagepro9060TT doesn’t matter for green jersey it’s a GC day

[@clovergrass9439]

Nope...

[@CapeCodPhilip]

One-take Horner crosses the line first, with all mainstream cycling analysts way, way behind...

[@THE_HMRC]

I have never heard such an excellent narrative on how a bike finish ended....and yet, you mention Bini all of four or five times during the narrative. Had you watched him as much as you watched the other riders jockeying for position in that last 250m, you would have saw how excellent he kept his line and fought off other riders, shoulder to shoulder, to position himself to have a chance to win this race. But you spoke about every tom, dick and harry EXCEPT Bini...until the end of the race....when 'suddenly' Bini was in third place. A feat that was remarkable if you took the time to WATCH what he was doing, and give more comment on.

[@PazLeBon]

and lost

[@rosshole]

@@PazLeBon A lot of riders "lost" and yet...

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

It’s a 23 min video and Bini got mentioned many times at the beginning and at the end of the video. You should go back and watch the video again. 🤔🦋

[@THE_HMRC]

Let me clarify my statement....I watched your whole video....I love your narrative....I had no issues with how you narrated it at all....until a certain critical point in the race, where I felt you dropped the ball.....It was at the most critical part, when the sprinters were jockeying for position for the final sprint. For example, from 17:00 to about 17:55, you point out ALL of the six contenders EXCEPT Bini. He is sitting on the wheel of Rolf, drafting off his wheel, in great position, and what do you do? You actually talk about every other contender except Bini in this exciting finish. At 17:58, you finally state that Bini is in the picture, but not quite even.....and your narrative returned to being even handed. That is the only issue I had with your narrative. I love the way you cover cycling. Keep up the great work. I only wanted to point out this glaring moment in your narrative.

[@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628]

9:16 I would not want to be in the middle of that. Have to be at the front.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋

[@SuperFez87]

Wasn't much of a show today. Nobody wanted to be in the break?

[@hernanalvarado4260]

Is Jasper a dangerous sprinter? He always seems to be involved in controversy.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

His nickname is Jasper disaster 🤪🦋👊

[@PazLeBon]

lol jonas too scared to come out of his team bubble , to suggest he could isolate anybody is laughabl ein some ways

[@rosshole]

@@PazLeBon Your comment is laughable. (Not gonna bother explaining why.)

[@rosshole]

@@PazLeBonlol He wasn't too scared to "come out of his team bubble" chasing after Pog down the Galibier at 100 k per hour w intermittent wet patches, now was he? lol

[@mrsewe417]

Do you suggest that he should have pulled all by his lonesome to destroy the peloton????? Please take your meds.

[@PazLeBon]

@@mrsewe417 who? i guess someone deleted comments?

[@slayer6936]

J.P. Finally gets relegated for the samething he did to Wout last year. It's about time they stop him from running riders into the barriers.

[@savagepro9060]

We now see why Sepp opted out of Le Tour. He was nervous to have to do something super-hero-ish on July 4th. Hmm!🤔🤨

[@adamhindle9215]

Jasper is simply unlikeable. Happy to see him not win a stage all Tour. Remco for the TT, and that will close things up at the top. More pressure on Pog too - can he handle it?

[@eljeferaider]

Why can’t they put sprint lanes painted for the last (150)M of a stage?

[@PazLeBon]

it isnt schoolboy racing

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Nah. Then the crashing and hooking would just before they got to the lines. 🤔🦋👍

[@marcushaysom4059]

A bit desperate from Visma frankly.

[@jasonpushy]

philipsen could get relegated, almost every sprint finish. should have gotten relegated last year. for cavs 35th in 2023.

[@tonimartin4828]

Philipseb did not deviate as much as Cavendish the day before.

[@wildly_heather]

@@tonimartin4828 yes, but the rules are that you have to deviate and impede/endanger another rider. Cav’s sprint yesterday did not endanger anyone as he was two bike lengths in front of anyone when he was moving.

[@jasonpushy]

@@tonimartin4828 lol. cav was a bike or two clear. didn’t impede anyone. have a look at that video. philipsen should have been relegated on that stage also. he caused the chop and the accident into the barrier. by diving across the road to chase cavs wheel.

[@PazLeBon]

@@wildly_heather nor did this ne, aert was done

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Any moment. Last year Jasper could have relegated just for that up trick he pulled when he put the rider off the road. 😱🦋🤔

[@chrisallen3860]

Today's riders incorporating the slammed handlebars while in the peloton are spending way to much time looking down and their also glancing down at their computers . look at 70's ,80's 90's riders on film ,looking up and straight ahead every time there on camera .Stop blaming all these crashes on the "oh the riders are so much faster know" line. Roll out a strip of red shag carpet, let's say 3 meter's wide by 20 or 30 meter's long in front of islands or similar road furniture to let the rider's know it's heads up time.

[@PazLeBon]

stuoid idea, cavos finish as prtty much around a bend lol

[@chrisallen3860]

@@PazLeBon what are you trying to say son

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Right. I thought just some tape before the Island in the road to give a warning in advance, since as you said their heads are down anyways it would probably work. But some smooth carpet with traction would work even better and they could reuse it in the next races. 🤔🦋👍

[@charliedillon1400]

That's a sensible, economical solution to a serious problem that could be implemented tomorrow. The UCI will never go for it.

[@choctawone8266]

I got SO SICK of Phil today complaining about this boring stage. "Nothing happening" he and Christian and TJ would all complain. First, it IS a TOUR of France. There must be some stages that just take you across part of the country. Second, as Chris explains, there was quite a lot going on that could have been brought out by the Peacock race commentators, if only they would talk about the race.

[@starkparker16]

Who will show themselves to be knuckleheads tomorrow by riding all out when they have no chance at a stage victory or GC podium? I think G Thomas, Vlasov and Almeida will give 110%. 🛋️🦋🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@PelicanIslandLabs]

Not a chance on the 110% thing.

[@timliscum2861]

Jorganson said he was going for it if his elbow didnt kill him on the arrow bars.. there will be lots of knuckleheads tomorrow

[@PazLeBon]

it only goe sup to 100 mate

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Bjerg is not here this year, so there is one less to do it. 🤪🦋👊

[@rosshole]

@@PazLeBon 😂

[@pattykake7195]

Can’t stand the disaster Phillipsen…he is a danger to others riders..so glad he was relegated. Bini is going gangbusters…what a great guy…👍🏽👍🏽

[@mracer8]

Is beyond stupid for Visma to think that they can do a 100km pull/split for JV where there is so many sprint team who will do anything to win this stage!

[@leduch]

wind ! cycliste s enemy ! bravo bini! 👕.poggy has got court in a border with yellow shirt , he s lucky ! philipsen should be fine , to dangerous and not the 1st time , push him in the grasss ! njoytdf🦋🦋🦋

[@stevenappelget3564]

Knucklehead count: 0

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

I really wanted to see and hear the conversation between Cav and the moto. And later between Cav and the officials car. 😱🦋🤔