Sauce Money on Writing Puffy's 'I'll Be Missing You", Sting Taking Most of the Money (Part 6)

[@znhait]

That was beyond a sample. I can understand using a song as a base, but when an artist just puts different lyrics on top someone else’s beat, there can be no complaints about paying up.

[@orpheusepiphanes2797]

It was basically a cover

[@lovejones1897]

@@orpheusepiphanes2797you need permission

[@user-wq5kv2hu2s]

Real Hip hop heads knew about the ghostwriters man....This aint a shock

[@k.t.harmon343]

Shit been going on since the beginning, Big Daddy Kane use to write for Biz Markie 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️ nobody gave a shit just as long as the music was good !!!

[@moreno_163]

Puff Daddy ain’t a rapper rapper, so it’s fine

[@eric_brooks]

Where Madd Skillz at?

[@turtleanton6539]

@Re Up yeah dont worry if 8 write rhymes I write checks.👏👏

[@Betoven81]

Don’t worry if I write rhymes...I write checks

[@greglewis1084]

Damn Puff couldn't even write his own words for biggie

[@thisislaflaretv5250]

I'm pretty sure he gave input to me it doesn't diminish the msg of the song. Travel well

[@biggame2175]

The song wasn't wrote for puff. It was for sauce mom

[@topshotta2000]

I thought puff wrote it

[@biggame2175]

@@topshotta2000 nope, puff is a fraud

[@demian215]

@@topshotta2000 puff has never written anything that's common hip hop knowledge

[@lawns757]

Never sample a Sting record. He will take everything.

[@youtasteofcherryade]

As he should. It was a heavy sample, it should come with a heavy paycheck.

[@dboi4952]

Sampling is not a good idea if you wanna maxumize the amount of money you make. Even if the song is a major hit, most the money will go to the original artist. Plus they took the beat AND the hook....

[@MrBean617]

It all depends on how much you sample. The same thing happened to Lord Tariq & Peter Gunz. Steely Dan got 100% of the publishing.

[@oliverjones1845]

This is why dr Dre will replicate a sound to avoid paying

[@TRivera13]

@@MrBean617 And Jerry Rivera got bupkis for the intro.

[@183rd]

Sauce Money is the Bill Belichick and Greg Popovich of hip-hop with his answers!!! Gets right to the point...short and sweet! Dope!

[@RickRijuanaPro]

So this is the man behind that “Give anything to hear half a breath” line damn.

[@user-tk7rl6hw6c]

Brian Johnson trash

[@carlwilliams897]

Rick Rijuana Beats kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJSzeJ6EbrZsjc0 ✌🏽

[@ishthefish9006]

So complex ikr he did something no other musician has come close to

[@MoonLanta]

BREAFF

[@alonreid]

I always knew that people like Sauce had to be writing for people. You can hear his flow in people's songs.

[@booshine187]

Tru

[@yartadee50]

It seems nice being a troll 😅

[@giftbygodclothingcollectio8461]

Wow I had no idea this guy wrote “I’ll be missing you” that’s crazy. Salute to this man. Talent.

[@tyreesneed]

u must be young

[@CalleseAlaVerga]

I mean he took the lyrics from the police .

[@pewpewdead6377]

What do you mean wrote? He stole a song.........

[@callummorgan5664]

Wrote what? He stole the guitar riff and the main vocal melody and then added a drum track how is that writing 😂

[@davidsamuels9557]

@@callummorgan5664 He wrote the rap, fool. That's what he gets royalties for. He didn't steal anything. Puff used the sample without permission and Sting sued him.

[@502kingpaul]

Great song but also one of the saddest songs in hip hop. I could’ve guessed Sting got most the money tho..same music, same melody and everything but dope song R.I.P B.I.G

[@i_am_gohan9232]

But morally I would’ve did a nicer split with the newer artists ya know. True a person can rightfully take what’s technically owed to them lending a sample & song but doesn’t mean morally we should be greedy. That punk ass white boy has around 400 million dollars, he wasn’t hurting for no money at all, and Puff legally sampled it, whereas Juicewrld and his producer stole the sample. I was tryna give sting benefit of the doubt,but he seems like a pretty greedy money hungry dude anyways.

[@brianturner496]

Sting performed it with puffy at the Gramnys.So he might have been fair with him

[@jeffreynanatakyicollins101]

502 KINGPAUL that song heavily sampled sting

[@jasonarno9560]

@@brianturner496 VMAS fam

[@byrongammonbyrongammon9937]

i_am_gohan92 .....it’s Sting’s work. It’s his music. Folks should write their own material instead of using other people’s work.

[@_Ben4810]

It's folklore that Sting gets ALL the publishing money from The Police songs.... Journalist Vic Garbarini conducted an interview in 2000 with the Police & subsequently made the following statement after the interview to clear up some wordplay between Sting, Andy & Stewart regarding the ''I'll Be Missing You'' song: “The basic premise that Sting gets all the royalties/publishing for Police songs is simply not true. Early on it became apparent that Andy and Stewart’s unique contributions to Stings songs, really gave them a whole other dimension. So Sting agreed to give each of his bandmates 15% of royalties each, on all his songs.”

[@mrkeitt]

Sauce was a beast. His flow and content was barbaric in the booth. Dude definetly didn't get the shine he deserved.

[@professorfinesser4322]

Sting collecting the infinity stones from Thanos because of copyrights

[@phillipfisher3178]

Lol

[@SoundBiteInc-]

And his friendship wit pac May have played a part

[@crystallina2920]

❤

[@Batz130]

I loved "pain" off no way out, respect to the sauce👍💯

[@joekane8026]

You would of thought they was Chinese the way they Duck Sauce - Classic Sauce bars

[@richt.422]

DJ Clue Freestyle

[@ManiGee5973]

@@richt.422 word

[@Blockablofk]

Factssssss shout out to Memphis bleek for talking bout this

[@bklynsmithers]

Bite your tongue like epilepsy!!!!

[@akeemx9207]

Sauce is too humble he has crazy credits

[@Trap323a]

Hold up I remember sting performing this song with puff and faith at award shows 🤣🤣🤣 you mean to tell me he took all the money for the song and still performed with them 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Shanthan33]

that's GANGSTA!!!!

[@phoney4387]

Sting didn't want to do it so he said he wanted all the money thinking Puffy wasn't serious.Then he felt like he shouldn't perform because Hip Hop isn't his genre & he didn't want to be disingenuous.He actually donated a lot of the money to charity & the family but people stopped talking about the real story a long time ago.

[@dinosauriojacinto]

Most time, is record label and producers that claim the copyrights, sometimes agasin frontman singer whises.

[@spoken2]

here after Gene Deal

[@Robdoesitall]

Same 😂

[@reginagalvan-fb3yi]

Me too 😅

[@rayanthony5647]

Same here

[@DeFameWRONGCROWD]

Sauce’s pen game is legendary ✍️

[@everettwalker2258]

TK Kirkland actually helped Sauce money write "I'll be missing you".

[@Capitalgee84]

Lol

[@christophersmith118]

Everett Walker 😭😭😭😭😭

[@PJ-po7fu]

😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣👍🏾

[@adamphillip5305]

He killed Biggie just to present Sauce with that opportunity

[@dinosauriojacinto]

he also taught Sting to play gitar

[@adeshinaopeyemialexander2285]

I love this man's response, straight to the point

[@twocents6951]

Even though Sting took most of the money from that song it was the perfect single for Puff to really launch that album.

[@mrkilo-g8794]

Naw it blow up due to Biggie Death

[@twocents6951]

@@mrkilo-g8794 Even if Big didn't pass that album was still gonna sell. Between Big, Mase, The Lox and The Hitmen that album had way to many singles and it was gonna blow regardless. One song doesn't sell a multiplatinum album.

[@jonathancoleman7148]

The first two seconds of the song I'm already crying.

[@tuckh5961]

Sauce also wrote "best friend" for puff, which was a big song from his second album

[@acts562]

Tuck H5 my fav song back in 1999

[@Cuddy83]

That was my favorite song on that album when I was a teenager

[@FidoeFTW]

No way ...... that shit was my jam. I foolishly thought puff wrote that. Smh.

[@tuckh5961]

@Marvin Santana he maybe wrote the hook but sauce wrote the verses for puff

[@JG-xt6eu]

Nas-“Always Survive” one of the best tributes if not THE best tribute song since it references both Big/PAC.

[@erroltorrington9186]

That Song was wack

[@JG-xt6eu]

@@erroltorrington9186 You aint gonna reply with a song that was better?? You something like a hater man

[@erroltorrington9186]

@@JG-xt6eu lol.just my opinion fam

[@truthteller5521]

slim 2 none Always Survive was 🔥, Nas went off on that track.

[@michaelj6199]

We Will Survive

[@gilbertnicholas1582]

Finally he's talking about himself instead of Jay Z

[@Ghostaredead]

Facts

[@TheDtruth29]

Word!

[@meyou5789]

Finally Vlad stoped askin about Jay Z

[@mikeyMascoto]

That verse that he wrote for Diddy on young Gs was🔥🔥🔥.Salute to Sauce.

[@galvatron3290]

mikeyMascoto 🤦🏾‍♂️🔥💥🔥💥

[@JrtheKing91]

Life after death sold more than 10 million vlad do you research!

[@wmcroy3306]

He already fucking lack research lol

[@jacberg9256]

actually over 11 million.

[@mikeychainsaw9760]

Diamond because he pass. If he was alive I doubt it would have did those numbers

[@TCfromSC]

@@mikeychainsaw9760 It only sold 5.5 million. I think it still would've went diamond had biggie not been shot but not as fast as it did

[@mikeychainsaw9760]

@@TCfromSC maybe

[@viralbuthow000]

"Naw, it wasn't the police it was Sting." 😂😂😂

[@PharoahsKingdom]

Oh the "Young G's " record he wrote Puff's verse? I always that Jay-Z wrote that verse. That's wild.

[@gargenfluckgosphenspiels4849]

Damn it feels good to see people up on it.

[@calmb01]

Me I actually think he had the second best verse after biggie

[@el84oro]

@@gargenfluckgosphenspiels4849 flipped two keys in two weeks and didn't flaunt it (big murked that)

[@bern9642]

@@calmb01 no way, Jay Z's was the second best.

[@tyreesneed]

that verse was so basic and wack I actually thought puff wrote it the whole time

[@hakkimb8913]

Damn Puffy couldn't write about his own man over a slow ass track, that's lame!

[@shawncarter9625]

Puff wasnt a rapper...big started him rapping...fact he was going to be big first artist

[@int3533]

He’s a fruitcake

[@hakkimb8913]

Shawn Carter No real rapping was required on that song! He's basically slow talking thru the song. And I know about Puff history in the game, that's still lame though!!

[@tyresetyrese898]

Hakim B not lame at all puff wanted it done right

[@hakkimb8913]

Tyrese Tyrese Lol okay

[@mrflynn01]

Every breath you take is by the Police! Sting is a member of the police!!

[@1995RangeRover]

If I were an artist that made music and someone sampled, or took anything from my work, plus I owned publishing? Damn right they give me most of the proceeds 💪😊

[@asapwynne]

Shut up. No one asked you.

[@dustojnikhummer]

Sting said that if they asked him he would have said yes. But they didn't, so he sued.

[@wandamahlase4528]

'do you know'....is dope.

[@ToneRetroGaming]

That song is so deep

[@jennifermeech222]

I remember meeting Sauce in Ulster county jail both of us were on a visit. Cool dude

[@judas_cobane]

Well it makes since that Sting took the majority of the money, IT'S HIS RECORD Puff should have Known better.

[@TheSstretch68]

THE LEGENDARY SAUCE MONEY!!!!!!! The ultimate ghostwriter

[@robertobravo5732]

Sample another person song, expect to get clipped by the original artist.

[@wmcroy3306]

Basically

[@charnfriday3837]

Sting said on the Breakfast Club since Diddy didnt get permission to use Sting's sampled music on "Missing You" Diddy has to pay him everytime the song is played- forever.

[@mada2340]

Also 2000$ a day for life from P. Diffy

[@smokedkil1]

Sting should have got most of the money. It's his song. It was already a hit song and still a bigger hit than the Puff Daddy version.

[@geecheetone8550]

Vlad: "So, in '94 you were in California writing for artists out there...did you ever run into Suge Knight?"

[@Pilotalphapapa]

BigTone lol 😂

[@PJ-po7fu]

🤣😂😂🤣🤣

[@RelicDaOne]

MAN!! 😆😆😆😆

[@el84oro]

lmfao you crazy for that one lol

[@leathaface17]

BigTone 😂😂😂😂😂

[@emacdahostmac4600]

Sauce wrote all my favorite joints on no way out album always been a fan of sauce

[@mikeloud7975]

Sting show up like "Beautiful rendition of an orginal piece, the artist is amazing" hype it up then send that notice.

[@NickHazletonMusic]

I wrote this song a long timmmme ago! A real long timmmmmee ago! In ‘94...

[@UNITEDNATIONZSOUND]

😂😂😂

[@ochonganokwu]

Sting must love rap music as these rappers keep paying him

[@bobbyamos2098]

Life after Death almost doubled No Way Out in sales

[@rmac1scotlandgang379]

Missing you is a classic track man

[@christophermiller6835]

Puff also sampled Roxanne by Sting as well...I guess him & Puff was cool!!

[@JulianHills]

Sting and Diddy performed it at the 1997 MTV Video Music Awards, not the Grammys. Also, it was The Police's song, not Sting's solo song.

[@YOMAME123]

As Sting should he's the legend

[@msalazar413]

“Every breath you take” was performed and released by the POLICE in 1983 on their Synchronicity album. Yes, STING wrote it, but it is a POLICE song. 😊

[@HiPHOPx87]

What the game Made me (Sauce, Jay, Bleek) Marcy 2 Hollywood (Sauce, Jay, Bleek) 2 Street Classics.

[@alfredjones9548]

🔥

[@thesupervisor3270]

That wasn't the Grammy's that was the MTV music awards.

[@frankguzman1175]

“What kind of name is Puffy for a grown man anyway.” -biggies mom

[@lunajay3620]

I can hear that in a jamaican dialect😂

[@gegegenokitaro]

So glad to hear Sting took most.

[@BlackJohnnyCage]

This Man said he was a 100k short after the lawsuit! Crazy.

[@christophersmith118]

BlackJohnnyCage that was some str8 b.s.

[@RelicDaOne]

Lawyer Fees...

[@ShaDr0pBombs]

Its so ironic i been listening to this album lately!!!! N was amazed at the music!!!! Def classic!!!!!!

[@destroytmusicagan2476]

Sting been getting some serious royalties from Diddy's I'll Be Missing You in 1997 all the way to Juice WRLDS Lucid Dreams in 2018 and will continue getting them as he rightfully should those are the songs he created.

[@shanekamcduffie9793]

He should hell he don’t pay his artists correctly and he robs the families of the artists he had killed. I’m happy to hear Sting taking what is deserved.

[@TheEverton1978]

He will take every breath

[@Genisvell1983]

Sting took most of the money to pay TK.

[@PJ-po7fu]

Yep🤣

[@lewmich1234]

😂

[@sadieg3264]

😆😆😆😆😆😆 good one.

[@Genisvell1983]

Sophisticated Ignorance Sure did. I lost forgot about that.

[@Thomas998822]

People forget that back then Life after Death was double CD, AND one album sold counted as two units sold.

[@kylehill6384]

True but they were also just under the cost of two separate albums, say a single CD was 10 a double would be 19 dollars.

[@dinosauriojacinto]

you get twice the songs, so its legit to me

[@marby.]

Same with Tribe and "Can I Kick It". Lou Reed cleared the sample but he took 100% of the publishing. That's the cons of sampling. The original artist can set the terms anyway they like, as they should, but 100% seems kinda jacked up.

[@fettieteam2333]

I never knew SM wrote that for puff. Now it sound just like SM when I think of it now

[@142T]

Vlad it’s not “shadows in my room”, it’s Lucid Dreams. Get your facts straight 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ineedthatent5370]

Respect, this song brings me to tears can’t jam to it. Dear momma and lord I’m just a g too

[@lovechildtre4961]

Sting (The Police)should have took the majority...it literally was his song sampled and melody...🤷🏾‍♀️

[@thisislaflaretv5250]

You have a point

[@jondoe406]

Not his lyrics

[@uptownsamcv]

LMAO @ " YOU CAN USE IT, BUT YOU AIN'T GONNA EAT OFF IT LIKE THAT! "

[@RoundTableDiscussion]

Juice WRLD can relate to Sting taking most of the money lol Sting don't need to make any more records or businesses to feed his great grand kids. The samples from various artists got his generation covered.

[@FREAKIN_BRYAN]

Well Sting actually created something cool and original. These dudes just grafitti'd on it and sold it as hip hop.

[@nomibe2911]

It was a Police record. Sting wrote that song so he probably got the majority of the credit.

[@golga14]

Not probably, he did

[@kemosijrlv9536]

Anybody who writes a song is a genius 💐 for Sauce Money

[@ConneshoeurKicks910]

Sting ain't bullshittin! He like "I need all that! " 😂😂😂

[@19453218]

Puffy will never walk through the gates of heaven. Think City College!

[@pianoninja5276]

Whenever I think of Puffy, all I think of is Dave Chappell in a visor and some shades...🤣🤣😂😂😘

[@7579-n9n]

Sauce money been one of the illest

[@DaytimeNitemare]

And think about this...... Puff has a Grammy for rap album......... 😐.

[@adamphillip5305]

@Brian Johnson Why the fuck did i click on that, that was fucking garbage.

[@rolandbishop6610]

what did elvis ever write?

[@DaytimeNitemare]

@@rolandbishop6610 niggas love bringing up white folks names..... 😑 Primitive

[@juicer404]

and thats whats wrong with the music industry

[@RLO26]

Drake loves this stat....

[@ToneRetroGaming]

Props Sauce Money. Do You Know is my favorite song on that Puffy album. That shit is so deep.

[@WelcomeToTheMadness]

Negotiate your splits before you release music, that’s the moral of the story.

[@edennard1]

If I'm the original artist of the song that went Platnium and another artist wants to use it ( him or her ) then I'll tell you what royalties I will receive PERIOD..,

[@vintageVids]

True but also if you sample a record the owner of the song you sampled from will automatically get %50 unless they decide they want more. That is the downfall of sampling.

[@bejaismith8791]

TK Kirkland actually drove Sauce Money to Radio Shack and gave him the money to buy the pens Sauce used to ghostwrite on the "No Way Out" album.

[@dinosauriojacinto]

thats true, I am the pen, blue cristal bic pen

[@85jmurk]

Moral of the story make original music quit sampling people's shit making them richer

[@Mochic45]

I mean if u sample like Tribe, Pete Rock, Preemo, etc I think that's cool. Missing You wasn't a sample, it was a str8 bite. Puffy bit that song. It was basically the same some as Sting. That's not sampling, that's biting!!!

[@edennard1]

exactly.. problem is that a lot of them can't...that's why they bite off of other artist's shit.. and hope for the best.

[@dinosauriojacinto]

@@edennard1 Puff had people that can flip the hell out of sampled (easy moo bee or the hit squad) thing is that his visionm probably was that a straight loop will be more friendly to mainstream audiences that a choped hiphopish niche beat

[@leonardoidsevinchi3361]

sting sleeping comfortably

[@rmac1scotlandgang379]

"Shadows in my room" ahaha

[@Naeem_El]

Prisonvids 1 #HMPSAUGHTON that shit was funny as hell. Lol like really Vlad

[@OfficialSLAYBACK]

I knew about the missing you record . I didnt know about the others....it would of been dope to hear sauce on young gs with Big and Jay

[@ERROL007]

Every breath you take was a Police track written by Sting and his Manager ain't playing.

[@WorldHayes-VR]

Vlad keep Sauce money in rotation please

[@frosttheboss4865]

2024 gene Deal got me here 😂

[@malawigold747]

I love when people don't bring up big moves they made, 99.9% of rappers would have said out the gate "I wrote missing u' for puff" Sauce kept that shit on the humble. He a dope fucking rapper too, he never got the shine he deserved, Pre Game is one of the dopest records in hip hop EVER!!!!!

[@tfbg107]

Life after Death sold 13.4 million in the US alone

[@Mac2nite.]

John Smith it’s a double album and the RIAA counts Double album sales two for every one album sold so in reality Life after Death is certified 11x platinum but sold 5.5 million.

[@tuckh5961]

@@Mac2nite. yup but the album also cost double the amount of a single disc album

[@gregatron4528]

Sauce Moneys album Middle Finger U was 🔥 🔥

[@jeffcordova9633]

Its Stings song, of course he's gonna take most of the profit, it's a hit because they sampled his song.. period.. was Puffy Mad about it?

[@Poundz978]

2:50 how do you make a tribute for someone who’s still alive?

[@rtiw7908]

@poundz978 they Knew something

[@Mochic45]

I don't think Life After Death sold more than N.W.O. in 1997 but posthumously definitely!!!

[@haneefahson973]

Life After Death sold more albums then any bad boy album EVER

[@RedStl]

BOTH albums came out after Big died.... meaning they were both posthumous LMAO

[@sadieg3264]

It did sell more than NWO

[@NGT4LIFE]

@@RedStlExactly,Big only dropped one album when he was alive. its funny because his second album quickly outsold his first album

[@Mochic45]

@@haneefahson973 Yes. Ur correct. I'm just saying I think N.W.O. sold more in 1997. Life After Death sold more than all time

[@factsfacts3461]

I haven't seen Sauce Money since 96/97/98 on Jay's short video album the song, "It's Alright.." There were rumors he wrote for JayZ at some point.

[@darealest1432]

Facts facts Just Rumours! Hov don’t use no ghostwriter! God Mc 🙌🏾

[@DVitamin3]

SO THEY STARTED MAKING THE SONG BEFORE BIG DIED 🤔 YET ANOTHER REASON FOR ME TO HATE PUFFY !

[@ajrose1245]

Yo I thought thats what he said! Ish crazy

[@suoilobos3492]

They started making the album before he died not the song. The song came after he died

[@MarcusMilld]

He's talking about the no way out album

[@RedStl]

Vitamin D started making THE ALBUM before Big died. Smh. Keep up

[@deadgame3298]

Damn you dumb as hell lol

[@bigstomp120]

Wow Didn't kno he wrote those joints on No Way Out!!!

[@photoholicflix]

I hope Vlad ask Sauce Money about the craft of "ghostwriting".

[@michealwillis]

Missing you is one of the best Hip-Hop tracks ever.

[@firemarshallbill4046]

Well Sting is with the Police lol get it Police Sting

[@djbhe]

The same thing happened to Warren G for the Doobie Brothers sample he used on the Regulator song. He didn't get a dime for that song but he made money from touring.

[@th3rd3arplan3tradio]

On that no way out album you can tell most of them bars sounded like biggie. I already knew he didn't write his own rhymes.

[@melanieperry8314]

That song is 90% Sting/ Police. The first time I heard his version I thought he had stolen it from Puffy!