Vocal Coach Reacts to Teacher, Teacher by Jinjer

[@stenc5547]

Perrenial from Wacken 2019 is live.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

There is a bit of doubling in post to create harmonies, but it is a great performance.

[@Justin-nq6kf]

@@j.f.fisher5318 No those are just live mic effects like delay and or reverb.

[@Justin-nq6kf]

@@j.f.fisher5318 In Pisces they do layering in post tho

[@j.f.fisher5318]

@@Justin-nq6kf Comparing the official video to the bootleg there is a wee bit of layering in the official video that isn't in the bootleg.

[@Justin-nq6kf]

@@j.f.fisher5318 Gotcha

[@Aranes68]

This IS the studio/album version, just the visuals are live - from at least two shows, like you can see on Tatianas outfit.

[@Module79L]

Three shows, actually. ; )

[@deed5811]

I see 4 different Tatiana outfits 🤔

[@Grobut81]

@@deed5811 I can definately see three different ones (white overalls, black top with white lettering, black top with no lettering). What's the fourth one?

[@deed5811]

The shirt near 2:57 is different. There might be 5 outfits hmm sec

[@deed5811]

5:19 the sleeveless black shirt

[@caseyrogers573]

Metal musician of 20 years here, and everything you said about the necessity of dynamics and playing as a tight unit when writing/playing music this heavy and this busy is dead on. Also, as a drummer I really appreciate a vocalist (I know you probably play some instruments as well) who has an ear for rhythmic ideas as you do. Love the channel!

[@ah-kulkulkan]

Yup, watch some of their official live concert videos like Perennial to see how much this video actually represents their live performance. It's insane and beautiful

[@cooltechnician]

Please Elvann.. react to Perennial live at Wacken 2019.. Their best performance live!

[@elgonwilliams7624]

Probably my favorite Jinjer song.

[@cassiewinters331]

Tatiana is one of the few females that can literally goes from one end to the other with such ease. Seeing her live really proved that. That growl is just as deep live as the recording

[@MilkHound]

That attention to details in the dynamics of their songs is why we like them.. along with most progressive rock. Tethro Tull, Rush, Pink Floyd, Tool, and now Jinjer. It's rare company.

[@mediclimber]

Each one of their songs stands alone and adds a level of perfection. a concept album from this band will be out of this world.

[@bigbrutalbassbeer410]

Tati in those black pants, breaking guys’ and ladies’ hearts alike all tour long. 😎💪🏻🤘🏻

[@deathstroke7683]

Yup

[@Tobyc1315]

Great reaction! You have an uncanny knack for pausing at all the best parts and they go unnoticed by you. Back it up a bit before resuming and you'll be able to hear and react to it all.

[@mediclimber]

That vocal effect is called "perfect".

[@valeriududau3218]

try Perennial live

[@arnobenter]

Oh yeah, a new Elvann video with a Jinjer song! Two amazing ladies together here, what could be better to stsrt the new year:-)

[@michaelpalma5882]

Tatiana is absolutely amazing that’s why I call her “The Metal Goddess” 🤘🏼

[@ericdroddy7444]

Love seeing your beautiful self again missed your videos and hoped you had a great New Years 😊

[@ElvannReacts]

Thanks! I'm back to doing those 2 videos a week now! ^.^

[@RalphCahill]

This is the album recording and the video is just a montage of a few (at least 3) live performances for the visuals.

[@gaminjunctiontv5534]

This is the official video. So the track is studio.

[@PlacidDragon]

Happy new year to you as well Elvann, and thank you for the reaction :)

[@andrewfurey2999]

Your right it's the studio track off the EP if you haven't noticed the video was filmed at at least 3 different gigs Tatiana has at least 3 different outfits on during the video

[@nigeldepledge3790]

Oh, and that effect at the beginning sounds like two things : layering and digital compression.

[@BudhagRizzo]

"Who's Gonna Be the One" (live)

[@TheWorldAccordingToArf]

Appreciate your appreciation. Jinjer is a rare gem.

[@bryansmith5980]

Her vocals are done using delay in the audio mixer. the band did admit to using it in a interview the did a while back.

[@MatthewP-Gr]

She's able to sing live what you hear. Small diff only. This is not a live performance. Jinjer have many live songs on yt. Nice done.

[@PK--ITA]

I recommend "Judgment & Punishment" one also performance by Tatiana. 😜😜

[@ElvannReacts]

Hey guys!

[@EZMETAL]

Jinjer live is really powerfull and Tatiana singing... awesome!!! She has the best deep growl on metal imo. My other favorite is Alissa, frigging great as well but Tatiana has a deeper growls, I use to say that she is the Chuck Billy of females singers.

[@ryoraihan3537]

Jinjer live performance is a must..

[@chadwright7614]

Nvr thought of this song being inspired by pink floyd.. nice catch

[@ЛимпКот]

Vocal teacher, teacher reacts to Jinjer - Coach, Coach.

[@HiddenInSight87]

Probably inspired from when she was a school teacher.

[@ChrisPage68]

I think it was inspired by Tatiana's experiences at school. I would love her to duet with Floor Jansen - the results could be incredible, considering their wide range of vocal skills.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

Agreed. I'm sure there were influences from Pink Floyd though.

[@ElvannReacts]

OMG! YES! THIS!!!

[@MyNemesisIX]

One thing about the way that she switches between her cleans vs growl. It is quite impressive indeed, but how is it any different than flawlessly switching between registers? The way i see it is its pretty much the same. As simple as using two different techniques. (By no means am i diminishing Tatianna btw, i'm in awe everytime i hear her!) It's just that im surprised to hear people saying they've never heard such amazing transitions before.

[@Cartis88]

Yay, a new Elvann video! Today is a good day! :D Reacting to Jinjer even. I'm a happy man. Love your hair btw!

[@ElvannReacts]

Awwn thank you!!! ;)

[@t.s.6850]

I agree Perennial live, but ALSO, Who Is Gonna Be The One live is a great track by JINJER

[@hugovergara4507]

Excelente! Please check " Who s gonna be the one" real live . Fantastico!!!

[@joncbburg]

I love what you've done with your hair. Gorgeous. But... Purple is my favorite color.

[@terrytartu]

I love seeing how you react to groups and tracks I like. Tatiana Shmailyuk is, in my opinion the best female growler and able to switch effortlessly to a rock singer style. Having said that I am also a fan of the Swedish band Arch Enemy with both Angela Gossow and since around 2014 with the Canadian vocalist Alissa White-Gluz. I also like to listen a lot to Masha Scream of the Russian group Arkona...for me language is not a barrier to good music and vocalists.

[@Cartis88]

Omg, more Masha to the people!

[@j.f.fisher5318]

The performance of Arch Enemy's Nemesis live in Tokyo with Angela is amazing.

[@ronda.8624]

The song " El perdón "by diana Navarro

[@Vahlsten]

You need to understand how editing works. Atleast 3 gigs recorded, then they edit the video footage from those to fit the studio recorded audio, exellent usage of slow motion in video to match the timings with the audio, since the artists might switch timings on stuff on stage. And then they post it as the "official video".

[@oldmanjimh3165]

Excellent review. Ty Elvann.

[@stub011]

There is a very good real live version of this from Melbourne March 2020 which is the opening track on their upcoming November live album, Alive in Melbourne 🤘🤘

[@ronaldhaupricht9743]

I think you would love Jinjer outlander too!!!!

[@mattwami]

I agree 100% about needing the contrast of heavy and lighter music in a powerful song. Without the lower intensity sections, the heavy sections do not carry the same impact.

[@autemniaequinoctius2030]

Perennial Official by Jinjer

[@justicar5]

another crazy varied sing/scream vocalist: Ignea - Alexandria . Helle's voice is unreal.

[@КлятийМахновець]

they do it at concerts, bring it together in real time, and Tatiana should fall in tone every time there is an overlay. their operator stands in the hall and adjusts the sound and makes mixing from the tablet during the performance. they are great fellows. it's fine.

[@saint3211]

I'm curious to know if you would enjoy "Static X - Push it" it doesn't have the dynamics that you enjoy from this. But I believe that the song is better for it, I'd love to see your reaction :)

[@Justin-nq6kf]

Again I dont think thats an effect on her voice I believe its just layered vocals. Basically same thing and sound Korn used to do.

[@ElvannReacts]

Since this is a studio version it's probably the case ^^ yeahe

[@boredcnj]

Happy New Year. Looking 🔥🔥🔥

[@tifosinh]

Yeah, this is studio audio and any Metal recording engineer worth their salt will record the vocal track many multiple times, possibly with different mics or in different spaces or with different EQ curves, and then layer them to create the sound they are looking for. It's a technique that is prevalent throughout metal recordings.

[@guessagain-et1rg]

YAH ITS LIVE WITH HER CHAGING HER CLOTHS IN 1/10 OF A SECOND COME ON ITS MULTIPLE CONCERTS SPLICED TOGETHER MULTIPLE BANDS FROM THE 80'S AND 90S DID THE SAME THING

[@SuperClarky666]

Its not a live soundtrack no but video parts are from 2 concerts. React next to perennial (live at waken)

[@ErykaVasconcelos]

Hi! Please react to Jinjer - Perennial (live Wacken 2019). It's incredible!! What a show!!

[@tazzz1783]

Perrenial from Wacken 2019

[@johnswarrior]

Liked your deep well-said thoughts about different things in the song. Thanks for appreciation and all the best from Ukraine!

[@ophidicism]

You need to watch Perennial Live @ Wacken. That one is live. Of course, there are backing vocals and likely a click track, but they'd have to be aliens to play this type of music without some sort of assistance. Regardless, these are 4 of the best musicians in the world right now. Saw them a few months ago and they blew me away.

[@chriscr21]

You're great, the pauses were crazy, but other than that you're great! I think the song is based off of something in her Real life.

[@nigeldepledge3790]

It's definitely a montage. Either that, or Tati is an absolute quickchange genius! In terms of genre, I can hear influences from melodic metal, gothic metal, industrial, death metal and perhaps a couple of other areas, too. So, the only genre they seem to fit, IMO, is Jinjer. They have created their own genre.

[@damiensmith9255]

All Hail Queen Tatiana

[@ronaldhaupricht9743]

Check out who is going to be the one live you will love it!!!!

[@zahari_s_stoyanov]

One of the ways I can tell it's montage is there are overlapping cleans and growls. From what I've seen so far, they don't do this in live shows.

[@BloodTideGaming]

This is the album version of the song. The video is taken from multiple shows. A montage like you said. You can tell by the multiple outfits lol. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYTPd36tirR9bpI is a pretty good Live version.

[@ZERXERZANZIGER]

Who is gonna be the one live. Napalm records shows her as she is (; I do hope you react to that. If not atleast listen to on your own.

[@oldmanjimh3165]

Jinjer's 'Bad Water' official video has mostly all cleans, may be a good change.

[@luisnunes2010]

Frankly, Jari of Wintersun has a better mix of clean and dirty vocals. Let's have a reaction to Sons of Winter and Stars at the Sonic Pump Studios. The dynamics are awesome, too. Happy new year.

[@sugoruyo]

Luis Nunes Wintersun needs to happen. It’s possible to have a metal reaction channel just on Finnish bands alone with Nightwish and Wintersun in prominent positions.

[@luisnunes2010]

@@sugoruyo Preaching to the choir, brother. Of course, from Wintersun, one goes to direct to Ensiferum... It's viking metal, but it's the good stuff.

[@stevekanakanui7033]

love your hair

[@asospirit]

Happy newyear elvann! Cool reaction as always! ❤️🤘🏼🇳🇱 Plz react to the new Tool album: fear inoculum. A true master piece🔥. Pneuma and 7empest are epic songs! :)

[@chriswalden798]

Jinjer Perennial live at Wacken 2019 next ;-)

[@nazariihirych328]

Hello from Ukraine ❤️

[@madcracker84]

I thought if floyd too but I have no idea what the link would be.

[@DrDev1L]

Let me disagree. There are cases when one fast paced pretty heavy/agressive song comes before a different one with slow tempo and atmospheric sound in general. That's why I think contrast is not always should be the thing.

[@Qyngali]

If this is live she's the fastest dresser the world has ever seen. :P

[@RexDexter]

Check Out Their "I Speak Astronomy" [Official] And Also Nightwish's New Album: Human:||:Nature.

[@davidvanderveken5901]

I think you are right about Pink Floyd... another brick in the wall 👌

[@BartdeBoisblanc]

Check out Unleash the Archers I am sure you will like them too.

[@ElvannReacts]

I do actually like their music!!

[@davidedemurodominijanni9889]

I dunno... I keep on thinking we cannot talk about growls when it comes to Tatiana's voice.... I believe we are talking about still her voice moving into a male deeper voice and that's what's really amazing. We know now how much human beings have a female and male side within, voice cannot be considered differently. I believe that's exactly what makes Tatiana and Jinjer that special. I really hope you give me your opinion on my theory, Elvann.

[@aamiw99]

The song isn't live as some have already said, and even live she sings the entire thing! She doesn't skip notes to take a breath or something. About the metal thing, I've realized there's a number of Jinjer fans that aren't even metalheads. I think it's for the same reasons you outlined, and also cause people are just in awe of what Tatiana can do with her vocals. I'm a metalhead and even though I completely disagree with you, I understand where you're coming from. The heaviness you're referring to is actually very diverse in itself. There's a reason why there's so many sub-genres within metal, most of which have a lot of screaming. The vocals don't play as big a role like in other genres like pop, hip-hop, etc. The differences are mostly instrumental. Jinjer, for the most part, fall in the progressive and groove metal sub-genres, and also metalcore if you consider their earlier stuff. As for your reaction, it's quite good overall but with a lot of pausing in between you really lose the gist of the song. I'd suggest maybe 2-4 pauses for some words then analysis at the end. You'll get to enjoy the song more and people won't be pissed about it lol. It's a win-win! Like many others, I'll recommend an actual live performance: Perennial Live at Wacken 2019. If you want another band from the metal genre to check out I'll recommend Motionless In White - Another Life. It's much calmer than this but a very emotional song. Hope you have a great day!

[@a.ros12]

Please react to Perennial live at Wacken

[@riddik79]

Wait are you french or french-canadian? Cause the way you said "montage" sounded very french-like.

[@ElvannReacts]

I am french-canadian!! XD

[@riddik79]

@@ElvannReacts J'le savait!!!!!!! XD

[@ElvannReacts]

hehe 😎

[@JudgeMingus]

You may not be interested after all this time, but in case you are, there is an official live recording of this song: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amSrgH-KfLypma8 The mix is quite 'raw' in character, with the guitar upper mids very present, but it is a great example of their live chops and presence. You can also hear the crowd singing along in places which is nice.

[@Jinjer13]

I'm absolutely in your opinion... and a happy new year! that's a great band with a great female vocalist, and yes that's the studio version of that song, but it doesn's matter! That's a live version of another song from 2019: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKnMZJxvrN-EeM0 JINJER - Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019) many thanx for your reaction and greetings from germany!

[@tvadakia]

I think the word you were looking for is “dissonant”.

[@j.lahtinen7525]

"Who Is Gonna Be The One" is a live performance (and a well recorded one!), here's the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2fVp2innp1gbtU It took a while to grow on me, as it has a lot of growl (and as Jinjer is the first band I've heard where I like the growl). But I quite like the song now, and it's a good demonstration of how good Tatjana sounds live.

[@grouphug1013]

Can you do a reaction video to Vintersea - Befallen ? their singer is on par with Tatiana

[@robertcraane7910]

Why ae we not married?

[@magys.flowers]

PLEASE REACT TO MON LAFERTE - TOMENTO IN VIÑA DEL MAR 2017 💜

[@terrytartu]

In fact you could try reacting to Tseluya Zhizn by Arkona. To get an idea of where the group are musically have a sneak perk at Yarilo from around 2009/2010 the lyrics to Tseluya Zhizn are exceptional even on Google translate. Целуя жизнь Тонув в объятьях ветра Слепой не видит пустоту В пучине света В россыпи грез Утопающих в пасти зверя Не ведан путь В немую тьму за замкнутой дверью Силуэты душ лишь ползут через глушь Хладно тронет уста поцелуй старой девы Улетая в бесконечную высь В глубине утопая В пляске вечного сна Застывая Разлученный с землей Обрученный с невестою - тьмой В черной шали ее засыпая Средь блуждающих душ Ты узнаешь себя Оттолкнувшись от тверди Убежишь, улетишь в никуда наяву Средь холодных огней Пав в объятия смерти Танец на костях В суете маскарада Маску бытия Жизнь и смерть держат рядом В сомкнутых руках Седовласый шаман Чертит путь новорожденных душ Вечно мертвых костей сколом Жнец не дремлет Пожиная созревшую рожь Очертивши серпом коло Свет и тьма сотрут главу Когда забвенья жрец откроет свой чертог Страж миров, седой творец Расправит длань на перепутье двух дорог Вечность дарит смерть Возрождение чрез вихрей круговерть Горести боль - наш безудержный страх Ведь не плачет палач о наших костях Черное платье, белое платье Кружатся из года в год То две сестры, повинуясь усладе Древний ведут хоровод Вечностью родны сестры вселенной Ранящий души их глас Словно наполненный смехом надменным Он пронесется сквозь нас I am sure you can easily get these translated. So so good!

[@terrytartu]

The live version is on You Tube

[@Immortall1408]

@@terrytartu Tseluya Zhizn is pretty long, to be honest. Yarilo is probably really better as an introduction to the band. Here is a link to Tseluya Zhizn - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4m0lX2MhsqXhsk and the first song from this song is really good

[@jefftrimborn1175]

From my research this is from her school time

[@ophidicism]

Also, here is Tatiana with no post or effects, and not even from the studio mic... kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2eYZnyvqbCDpM0

[@Module79L]

The vocal doubling and vocal harmonies you hear on Jinjer's songs are not created artificially with digital effects, they're all recorded by Tatiana and then mixed together. ; ) No, it's not just you who likes songs with dynamic variations. Everytime I hear a new Metal band and it sounds the same as the last 100 new Metal bands I've heard, with the same guitar sounds, the same drum samples and the same singing style, I completely lose interest. That was what pushed me away from the Metal scene in the last 15 years. Until I discovered Gojira in 2013 and Jinjer in 2016. It's like you said, they're in the new Metal "scene" but they're completely different and unique, in the way that they use the same or similar elements used by other bands of the genre but they make them work without being repetitive or saturating the listener.

[@Imasteria]

Uh uh - first! Happy New Year as well!

[@g3synth205]

Too much pausing and interrupting the flow of the music in this one, sorry :( If you're not as much of a fan of the harder stuff, maybe try "Perennial" by them. Most people will recommend the live version from the Wacken film festival, but the album version sounds better. It still has its growling/fry scream parts, but there are some really smooth soft parts too (more so than any other song by them that I've heard anyway, though I think there's at least one where there are supposedly no growls at all).

[@ElvannReacts]

I could do that one as well but I very much enjoyed that one too, that wasn't too hard for me! Sorry for the flow, it's just my style, it's not rehearsed and I just speak up my mind when I think of something. ^.^" I'm not really overthinking this

[@petegrusky2715]

Teacher, teacher MSG?

[@hliborobful]

Понравилась твоя реакция, хотя показалось, что тебе трудновато пока ориентироваться в тяжелой музыке.

[@tomvidqvist4768]

There is octaver ..

[@ElvannReacts]

Ahh there we go, I thought there might also be something like that going on!

[@xenophon343]

Try another up and coming Ukrainian metal band with a female singer. IGNEA - Alga (Official Music Video). They are playing with a full orchestra and it's got a great groove. See it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHyyiZWwgreEftU

[@DeadPalooza]

Good video, but you had quite a knack for pausing at the worst times tbh haha still good though

[@UnleashedAI1]

Hey Elvann, nice reaction on Jinjer. You should try "who is gonna be the one?" (Live) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2fVp2innp1gbtU