J Cole Won the Beef

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Volksgeist

Volksgeist

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@Volksgeist
@Volksgeist 5 ай бұрын
I can't believe I gotta pin a comment but you guys should probably watch the video and pay attention to how positive it is towards Cole before losing your shit in the comments. You're not doing shit but making yourself look dumb by coming in here and ranting when you clearly havent even seen the video just reacting to the title
@benmercado4116
@benmercado4116 5 ай бұрын
💯
@truestprophecy
@truestprophecy 5 ай бұрын
bruh, they really doin that???
@waynejohnson1985
@waynejohnson1985 5 ай бұрын
I can't speak for others, but I apologize if my question seemed malicious. I was genuinely curious about the title change.
@pandaboogus
@pandaboogus 5 ай бұрын
Why do clickbait
@0svvan0
@0svvan0 5 ай бұрын
the title just sounds like you herd "grippy" . . . . .
@sly_cat
@sly_cat 5 ай бұрын
Cole thought it was friendly beef, realized Kenny and Drake had shit to settle, and stepped back. That doesn't make him a coward it makes him smart to not get involved in other people's shit. Especially in an industry where people get killed over saying the wrong thing to the wrong people.
@whatthehellizgoingon
@whatthehellizgoingon 5 ай бұрын
it was cowardly to say an album suck then turn right around and say it was one of the best albums you've heard. he would of won if he just would of never said anything to begin with.
@notmchlfx
@notmchlfx 5 ай бұрын
IDK why people think a beef between Drake, Kendrick and Cole would result in murders… these guys are not like that
@jennetics00
@jennetics00 5 ай бұрын
Nah he shoulda let that track ride instead of backing down and apologizing.
@jaahnnn
@jaahnnn 5 ай бұрын
Softest shit I ever read
@OliverThrone
@OliverThrone 5 ай бұрын
Yup
@iAintSayDat
@iAintSayDat 5 ай бұрын
Cole didn’t win or lose, Cole did him. That’s pretty much what we all should be doing.
@franekkkkk
@franekkkkk 5 ай бұрын
And then he dropped grippy lol Cole was taking about being the best and all that for a hot minute. Then he decided to cozy up to Drake. Kendrick didn’t like that. And so did I. You claim to be the best you gotta move like you’re the best. Cole moves like himself. And he ain’t the best.
@khartoumlavage4253
@khartoumlavage4253 5 ай бұрын
@@franekkkkk This. But his good songs are still good songs. He just isn’t in the “G.O.A.T.” conversation anymore.
@lucakoselj7123
@lucakoselj7123 5 ай бұрын
​@@khartoumlavage4253The goat conversation is bullshit. If you're talking about the goat, you can't exclude artists from other decades. 'Kendrick is the goat of the 2010s' is crap. Either, he's the goat or not. And with Nas existing, none of the big 3 are even close to being the goat.
@antiarezzo7630
@antiarezzo7630 5 ай бұрын
@@lucakoselj7123 lets be real here k dot washes nas. kendrick TPAB is rated the best album of all time by pitchfork,rate you music and album of the year(by BOTH fans and critics). kendrick has a spotless discog. nas dosint
@pandaboogus
@pandaboogus 5 ай бұрын
@@lucakoselj7123facts. Nas pushing 50 yet still give us classics by showing off his lyrical ability
@maxon7628
@maxon7628 5 ай бұрын
After watching the video I think this summarizes why we listen to these artists Drake:What we want to be like(the idea of being famous,rich and not giving a fuck) Kdot: what we think we should be like(reserved,woke and self aware) J Cole:what we actually are(the true middle child)
@jankuc331
@jankuc331 5 ай бұрын
Thats THE comment
@p__kingg
@p__kingg 5 ай бұрын
Thats funny cuz that's the exact reason Ive never downloaded a cole album or ever been an actual fan of him... Cuz theres nothing about his music i find interesting or inspiring.
@whatthehellizgoingon
@whatthehellizgoingon 5 ай бұрын
@@p__kinggi got dogged for saying that. dude steals anyone flow or cadence. it's that yt momma shid for me. then as soon as i told bro i just am not fan it's not that serious... cole came out w grippy to get everyone to shut up 😂
@Marina-ld3ew
@Marina-ld3ew 5 ай бұрын
Idk man I think only immature kids who don’t know any better want to be like Drake. And as for Kendrick being who “we should be like”, I think you’re entirely missing the point. Kendrick has said over and over that he isn’t perfect, that he makes mistakes and that we shouldn’t idolize him. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn’t listening.
@p__kingg
@p__kingg 5 ай бұрын
@@Marina-ld3ewthat's a pretty wide brush your painting with there..... drake got a large catalog bro.... You act like all his songs are the same. I will say WHOLE HEARTEDLY that I kinda stopped being a consumer or drake music right around the time he dropped VIEWS. And that IYRITL, and TAKE CARE are two of the better albums from the last 15 years PERIOD. Do I still enjoy his songs and alot of the pop stuff he puts out sure? One thing I love bout bro is no matter how much I may dislike him and the bodies of work he puts out, i always look forward to a guest verse from DRAKE no matter what...which I haven't really felt that way About a rapper since hov. And DOT... Well DOT is essentially a GOAT to me.... I didn't like the steppers album but every album except that one are legit works of art to me.. Cole.. I can't give ANY OF THE ABOVE NAMED COMPLIMENTS about. If your comment was defending COLE... that's how I feel about the 3.
@AmbetantMannetje
@AmbetantMannetje 5 ай бұрын
Who was Cole supposed to diss? He doesn't have a hatred for Kendrick or Drake.
@istoledacookies1491
@istoledacookies1491 5 ай бұрын
idk how can you claim to be the greatest if you can't stand behind what you rap, and write. And how can you claim to be number 1 if you aren't willing to defend your throne.
@feroca4097
@feroca4097 5 ай бұрын
@@istoledacookies1491 this wasnt about defending throne? this was a personal battle between kendrick and drake who hate each other
@istoledacookies1491
@istoledacookies1491 5 ай бұрын
@@feroca4097 That's how it ended up, but that's not how it started. when j cole dipped out of the beef he said nothing about it being too personal or just leaving it to Kendrick and drake, nah he said he didn't feel right about jabbing back and Kendrick and said he thought Kendrick is one of the best to ever touch a mic. It's cool to say your best, but don't compare yourself to someone else and say your better than then if you're not willing to prove it.
@MoneysWorthMidusd
@MoneysWorthMidusd 5 ай бұрын
​@@istoledacookies1491 Dissing somebody is NOT the only way to prove you are better than them
@smaaron_j_46
@smaaron_j_46 4 ай бұрын
@@istoledacookies1491 you’re fucking kidding me, right? Cole didn’t say anything about it being personal because he didn’t wanna blow Kendrick’s cover so early. Q told him how ugly it was gonna get and Cole was in on the surprise, of May 3rd, like a good boy. So he made up shit to say on stage to cover it up, like how he didn’t feel right or that he lost sleep. Cole probably knew the backlash that would come with saying that after dropping a diss, which is what makes his decision that much more manly. He risked it all for a surprise from Kendrick.
@devenulmer
@devenulmer 5 ай бұрын
Cole could never ruin his legacy.. That’s cause his real fans love him! Yall want us to turn our back on him, and it’s not gone happen! Fall off otw, It’s a boy otw🔥🔥🔥
@namespaced4437
@namespaced4437 5 ай бұрын
im pretty sure it's a boy got replaced with MDL but im not sure
@devenulmer
@devenulmer 4 ай бұрын
@@namespaced4437 yea I still wanna see what it’s a boy sounds like
@yuarewe5732
@yuarewe5732 5 ай бұрын
The reality of Cole is the fact that, cole fans and cole are very closely connected. My brother (homie) loves Cole to all ends cuz he feels his music deeply. He always says, Cole raps about real shit. Cole's music is always for a normal dude and teaches a normal person the values they should hold to be a good person. That's why I always felt that the big 3 are like 3 different sides raps and cannot be compared rationally. Even Biggie and 2Pac had the same. They both greatest in their own lane, Biggie for the technicality and Pac for the message and impact. Same with Nas and Jay.
@akshatsharma3621
@akshatsharma3621 5 ай бұрын
Man you got the shit right
@Str82Tay222
@Str82Tay222 5 ай бұрын
Yea I agree...I've never really understood people comparing the 3 anyway. You can't, you just can't. They are all crazy different and it's like comparing apples to oranges. I've been a fan of all of em since the beginning of their careers...but I do wanna point out that I'm not a fan of "radio" Drake. I'm a fan of the timestamp records Drake, the IYRTITL, Nothing was the same album, Take Care album and so on. The most recent shxt he's done, im not really diggin it, but it's all good because music is subjective. Some people will love certain shxt and some wont.
@carlamanderville8888
@carlamanderville8888 5 ай бұрын
O my goodness! I Totally agree. My brother and I had a very similar conversation. They are all different style, flow, consciousness, How they see the 🌎 The list goes on. All 3 good in their on Right!
@khartoumlavage4253
@khartoumlavage4253 5 ай бұрын
@yuarewe5732 Your comment deserves way more likes.😢
@yuarewe5732
@yuarewe5732 5 ай бұрын
@@khartoumlavage4253 damn, tbh I didn't think it'll pop off Thanks guys
@tanmaydhodapkar9061
@tanmaydhodapkar9061 5 ай бұрын
The vid changed titles more than Drake changes accents 😭😭💀💀
@namespaced4437
@namespaced4437 5 ай бұрын
stolen comment?
@kevinchullet3345
@kevinchullet3345 4 ай бұрын
Whats the original title?
@namespaced4437
@namespaced4437 4 ай бұрын
@@kevinchullet3345 it was something like "Did J. Cole really fall off?" and at least 2 other ones
@kevinchullet3345
@kevinchullet3345 4 ай бұрын
@@namespaced4437 ohh thanks gor the context .
@RodieBeats
@RodieBeats 5 ай бұрын
The title went from "J Cole Won the Beef' to "Did J Cole Ruin His Legacy?" to "J Cole Finally Fell Off" to "J Cole Fell Off" LMFAO?
@subtlememe
@subtlememe 5 ай бұрын
To j cole won the beef
@Tomconnellybiggestfan
@Tomconnellybiggestfan 5 ай бұрын
Bro cannot stop making clickbait titles on the same video
@isaacvasquez4401
@isaacvasquez4401 4 ай бұрын
@@TomconnellybiggestfanTrue, but it’s the smart thing to do. If you had a video that was doing good at first but it was losing its buzz and you knew all you had to do to boost the views is change the title, wouldn’t you do it?
@Tomconnellybiggestfan
@Tomconnellybiggestfan 4 ай бұрын
@@isaacvasquez4401 no because I'm not some kind of fraudster? Tf?
@isaacvasquez4401
@isaacvasquez4401 4 ай бұрын
@@Tomconnellybiggestfanthe guy is hustling, he’s literally getting more people to watch his videos. It’s basically like rebranding to keep the video relevant. Lmao. SMH.
@lostintoonami
@lostintoonami 5 ай бұрын
Kendrick is afraid of losing his morals and that’s the way it will always be Drake is afraid of confronting his morality and would rather stay in the dream of fame J Cole sacrificed his persona to keep his morality None can’t live the same after this beef, Kendrick will be put on a higher pedestal despite not wanting to, Drake will always be reminded of his true self and J Cole despite having the best outcome his image is tarnished. Ig we won’t fully know yet till time passes
@kimzziereenee1638
@kimzziereenee1638 4 ай бұрын
This is the best comment I’ve read.
@TfolzZ
@TfolzZ Ай бұрын
holy
@MoriohAnime
@MoriohAnime 5 ай бұрын
He’s back 🤝🏽💙 J.Cole power has been neutralized as a side effect of being caught in the Domain 😭😭😭
@angel_of_rust
@angel_of_rust 4 ай бұрын
JuJutsu Colesen
@Christian.Nights
@Christian.Nights 5 ай бұрын
I personally feel Cole isn't the type to send shot like this and I see why his spirit is disrupted by it. We do fuel the fire for this beef and gaslight who's the best in the rap game. I personally chose Cole because i relate to his art and music more, but respect Kdot and The Boy for their own lane that identifies them in the rap game.
@jaahnnn
@jaahnnn 5 ай бұрын
Was it his spirit or was it schoolboy q because I've heard both
@MrASAPAB
@MrASAPAB 5 ай бұрын
@@jaahnnn doubt he would come out and say “Q told me what’s really up, I’m out” lol. Mix of both is what I would say
@scarecrowzw
@scarecrowzw 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant comment
@steventheking4630
@steventheking4630 4 ай бұрын
I feel theoretically he could if it was to someone who he doesn't give af about, but Kendrick's his dawg. Thats why at the festival, he said "as do i" when he asked his fans if they love Kendrick. Like he still killed like tekashi 69 and shut NBA YB up when he beefed with em
@AllTheArtsy
@AllTheArtsy 4 ай бұрын
he isnt the type to send shots. except he did.he recorded and mastered that ish. and when the internet clowned him suddenly "oh no my mental health and spirit!" 🤣
@Skotax1x
@Skotax1x 5 ай бұрын
Someone with six number 1 albums will not be forgotten.
@Ctlnxx
@Ctlnxx 5 ай бұрын
Pf if u put it that way ,how many has drake? 13??…
@MrASAPAB
@MrASAPAB 5 ай бұрын
@@Ctlnxx yep. And Drake will never be forgotten either
@DJx2410
@DJx2410 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say might delete later was designed around 7 minute drill, he teased the project a lot before the beef, i would say that 7 minute drill was just thrown in there last minute
@kimzziereenee1638
@kimzziereenee1638 4 ай бұрын
Yep! And MDL is an excellent project.
@paulsievert6115
@paulsievert6115 3 ай бұрын
Terrible take from an otherwise insightful video
@Devondavis-fm2dz
@Devondavis-fm2dz 5 ай бұрын
J cole will never be forgotten in my opinion
@thetruthisreal-s1s
@thetruthisreal-s1s 5 ай бұрын
not at all... he won the hearts of many who real life relate to him... little kids tripping about a song he released is embarrasing and sad considering their only mad becuz they cant do what j cole does
@LijeeWin
@LijeeWin 4 ай бұрын
Idk what tf he was talking about 😂
@MrEAW56
@MrEAW56 17 күн бұрын
J cole is done...Tired of his ass
@bentleybboy
@bentleybboy 5 ай бұрын
If you ever doubt cole as a rapper, story teller - 4 your eyez only has to be one of the most beautiful tracks of all time.
@ElSuaveNinoMPT-gx8ng
@ElSuaveNinoMPT-gx8ng 5 ай бұрын
"They gon' see I'm the one when the dust settles, they gon' see I'm the one " Jcole-H.y.b
@ddankkerr
@ddankkerr 5 ай бұрын
haven't watched the vid but is it grippy?!?
@daxianapooreans8898
@daxianapooreans8898 5 ай бұрын
It its its grippy🥵
@Oofv32021
@Oofv32021 5 ай бұрын
it is indeed grippy
@arthurias7693
@arthurias7693 5 ай бұрын
grippingly grippy, in fact
@AyushSingh-wh6co
@AyushSingh-wh6co 5 ай бұрын
As much as I hate the song it's really catchy haha
@sizwedominator829
@sizwedominator829 5 ай бұрын
I disliked the comment but I still laughed
@MANOTTI781
@MANOTTI781 5 ай бұрын
Cole is too intelligent for senseless beefs he rather see everyone progress towards success yet most of society focus on drama as usual
@AllTheArtsy
@AllTheArtsy 4 ай бұрын
and yet he recorded a diss towards kendrick hmmmmm
@alphavegas1
@alphavegas1 4 ай бұрын
Getting the bloods and crips to come out together is progress. What the fuck are you talking about
@wedontagelikemilktho.7839
@wedontagelikemilktho.7839 3 ай бұрын
@@alphavegas1 They are Drake fans pretending to be Cole fans, why do you think he didn´t respond?😂
@Will-bn9km
@Will-bn9km 5 ай бұрын
Summary of the video is Cole just be chilling and yall should too
@wedontagelikemilktho.7839
@wedontagelikemilktho.7839 3 ай бұрын
So Kdot fans can´t celebrate or something? Idk if you already know but this will never be forgotten.
@Romeomekgoe
@Romeomekgoe 3 ай бұрын
We don't care😂
@harxxa6436
@harxxa6436 2 ай бұрын
He made a ass song
@ShinbrigTV
@ShinbrigTV 5 ай бұрын
Cole realized he didn't have any enemies and embraced it.
@dreguthrie4502
@dreguthrie4502 5 ай бұрын
Out of the ‘Big Three’, it feels like Cole has the most potential to evolve as he ages to me. Kendrick and Drake are crowded by their legacies, for better or worse; as good as they are, Cole is better off finding his own insights and maturing that way. Out of the three, he’s the most stable and in touch with himself. I look forward to seeing what he takes away from the aftermath of the Kendrick/Drake beef. He doesn’t need Drake or Kendrick to back him up- he’s an artist in his own right.
@calvinchaba
@calvinchaba 5 ай бұрын
This sounds true but isn't. Saying Kendrick isn't stable or in touch with himself is just false when the guy pops out when he wants to then goes on with his life
@dreguthrie4502
@dreguthrie4502 5 ай бұрын
@@calvinchaba I didn’t mean Kendrick was unstable, I just think he’s a little less stable than Cole is. Kendrick dealt with a lot of trauma as a kid and has spent years trying to iron out all that pain he has in him. Kendrick sometimes lashes out at people when mostly unprovoked, which is what started the whole Kendrick/Drake beef in the first place. Cole is a normal dude with a pretty sturdy background in comparison. That’s his appeal to me. Kendrick can and will lash out at other artists if he feels challenged, but Cole usually responds calmly or lets that shit fly. He’s more stable.
@calvinchaba
@calvinchaba 5 ай бұрын
@dreguthrie4502 that makes more sense but Drake started all this beef . He been dissing everyone including Kenny
@davidfuller581
@davidfuller581 5 ай бұрын
@@dreguthrie4502 Nah, it was not unprovoked. Drake and Kenny have been taking subliminal (or, I guess, sometimes not so subliminal) shots at one another for years, this is just the most visible and direct it's been. I mean, shit, that line on King Kunta... "but a rapper with a ghostwriter/what the fuck happened?" in context is right after the Drake/Meek feud where Meek alleged (correctly, mind you) that Drake has ghostwriters. Then there's all the subliminals that Drake has thrown Dot's way over the years. Cole doesn't really do beef the same way.
@yingkouzen
@yingkouzen 4 ай бұрын
True, J Cole is the most mature & calm out of the 3 and will be reflected in his music 🎵
@bricelee3738
@bricelee3738 5 ай бұрын
Cole the goat for all those reasons that’s why he has his fan base that’s why we love him. He’s helped me grow
@szolim_oh
@szolim_oh 4 ай бұрын
11:35 the album wasn't just 'okay' it was actually pretty good but people downplayed it because of jcole backing off from the beef. I really fw these songs. Maybe there is no great depth to the story in this album but it wasn't meant to be in the first place as it's just a side project before the fall off. The album is great though and it has repeat value imo.
@zandisiwetayi9977
@zandisiwetayi9977 5 ай бұрын
A lot of people saying J. Cole backed out because he was scared are being disingenuous. He just felt pressure to drop a diss track he didn't want to. He couldn't even get through an entire song without overtly making clear that he's apprehensive about dissing his boy. Also, everyone knows that, historically, at the heart of every rap beef is two niggas who absolutely can't stand each other. I don't know why folk who are trying to shit on Cole's capabilities as a rapper are being so deliberately obtuse, because even if he did go through with the beef, where was it going to go?
@Lucifer_isthereal_god
@Lucifer_isthereal_god 5 ай бұрын
Where was it going to go? Kendrick would have brought out the skeletons we don't know about Cole. And he would have destroyed him just like he did Drake. Cole would have maybe put up a better fight if his heart was in it. But it wasn't. I don't think Cole did anything wrong he made the best decision for himself.
@rtoriq
@rtoriq 5 ай бұрын
What I’ve realized with most people is they, in covert ways, walk around with a “lie to me!” mentality. They really do. Just like that track didn’t sit right with him, it didn’t sit right with me either. It’s felt sooo weird and forced bc I was like “not THESE two, NO”. Man what would they even have to beef over? I felt like I was a teacher and my 2 brightest students started beefing with each other, when they were just fine with each other before knowing details of their test scores lol. But he owned up to it, and that’s that.
@smaaron_j_46
@smaaron_j_46 4 ай бұрын
I’d say that he initially did want to make the diss, and the reason why he suddenly switched up was because that he was warned. Warned that things with Kendrick and Drake would go south. And while he did express some hesitation on 7 Minute Drill, he also said some things to suggest “Hey, if this is what I have to do, fuck it, I’m locked in”. And since the person who gave him the warning is none other than ScHoolboy Q, I firmly believe it was Kendrick who sent him to decline the battle, which to me is what really makes Cole’s hate train disingenuous. It’s impossible for him to lose a battle his opponent declined.
@zandisiwetayi9977
@zandisiwetayi9977 4 ай бұрын
@@Lucifer_isthereal_god What skeletons? An artist as big as Cole would've had those skeletons out years ago. The real reason why Kendrick won that beef was because Drake had very obvious, public issues and controversies and Dot simply shoved them back down Drake's throat. Cole, just like Kendrick, doesn't have that many controversies outside of saying a thing or two in a song that made people mad for a week. What killed Drake was him eliminating any credibility to his diss tracks by making up stories about Kendrick's family. Kendrick didn't reveal anything we didn't already know or suspect about Drake, which isn't to take anything away from him because he masterfully pestered him with these condemnations. He wouldn't have had such an advantage with Cole, if he did, it would have to be some incriminating information and if it's that bad, people are gonna question why Kendrick was sitting on that kind of information.
@Lucifer_isthereal_god
@Lucifer_isthereal_god 4 ай бұрын
@@zandisiwetayi9977 an artist as big as Cole? You mean like Drake? "I'm too famous" I'm not saying he for sure does I was just making a statement. Edit: and yes Cole did dodge a bullet. Kendrick would have destroyed him just like he did Drake.
@pleasetakemewithyou0000
@pleasetakemewithyou0000 5 ай бұрын
this title changed like 4 times lmaoooo
@BryTypher
@BryTypher 5 ай бұрын
Mf changing the name more than Drake changing accents
@Bliind
@Bliind 5 ай бұрын
Thought I was tripping.. it was definitely titled something else A few hours ago or something
@christophernjoku602
@christophernjoku602 5 ай бұрын
I think bro changed the title of the last video too. Kinda wack
@bratpeki
@bratpeki 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was "Is J Cole a Coward?"
@NikkoNikko98
@NikkoNikko98 5 ай бұрын
@@Bliindit was “J Cole Won The Beef” a few hours ago 😂😂😂
@josephabeksj3959
@josephabeksj3959 5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@devadasn
@devadasn 5 ай бұрын
No, next video Edit: original title was “Will J Cole be forgotten.” Hes trying to be slick he changed the title twice now 😂
@ffffffffffffff43
@ffffffffffffff43 5 ай бұрын
Yes, stay on this video
@khartoumlavage4253
@khartoumlavage4253 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I was about to say this. But no need now. This guy is wrong-wrong. Lol.
@gorrillasnake
@gorrillasnake 5 ай бұрын
Aubrey is that you?
@Wayklin
@Wayklin 5 ай бұрын
He did win? I’m the biggest kdot fanboy u can find but coles kept his dignity, respect, connections and nothing has rocked his peace. He’s living
@RichardMiller-q8c
@RichardMiller-q8c 5 ай бұрын
​@bcndsx2729 nah kdot is winning more. Everyone thinks kdot undeniably won, he got a #1 hit and it made everyone stop and look at him. His monthly listeners are higher than ever after the beef too. I dont even listen to him like that but kdot took nothing but w's
@RROwens-qi5dk
@RROwens-qi5dk 4 ай бұрын
The clip of Drake stuttering while talking to Lebron will never not be hilarious
@kevintc-r7069
@kevintc-r7069 4 ай бұрын
What you said about j.cole being the everyman is true, you may find his music boring but for me i can relate to alot of the things he raps about, like a big brother opening up to you about his mistakes and trying to teach you a lesson with his life. Not all of it is bops or culture shaking, but when you relate to one of his songs and you can feel him talking about something youre going through at the moment it hits you like a truck. Damn near cried the first time i heart lost ones
@Joseph-ly7sb
@Joseph-ly7sb 5 ай бұрын
J Cole has influenced my life in a positive way more than Kendrick or The Canadian one. 💪🏽 He speaks to people.
@wedontagelikemilktho.7839
@wedontagelikemilktho.7839 3 ай бұрын
Ig Kdot speak to a wall then smh.😂
@Corrupt_Minds24
@Corrupt_Minds24 5 ай бұрын
I think what hurt cole the most is the perception of his recent work. Recent Years Cole has arguably been at his best, him even saying he was No.1 currently and with Drake releasing Subpar music and Kendrick’s Absence This was really the one time where Cole had the “crown” over Drake and DOT in alot of people’s eyes I think… Then Kendrick came back and snatched it without much fight from Cole and i feel like everyone else was like “Well Damn, He’s not the best”.
@Nkanyiso_K
@Nkanyiso_K 5 ай бұрын
Those super powers are getting neutralized especially after Grippy & Wagwan Delilah
@marlohdez9901
@marlohdez9901 5 ай бұрын
Wagwag is him trolling, grippy is for real
@lucakoselj7123
@lucakoselj7123 5 ай бұрын
​@@marlohdez9901and his feature on free fall is better than any verse drake wrote for the last 5 years.
@abillionzebras
@abillionzebras 5 ай бұрын
@@lucakoselj7123thank you. people say that it’s the beginning of j coles fall off when he just did a great feature
@namespaced4437
@namespaced4437 5 ай бұрын
@@marlohdez9901 grippy was a throwaway verse anyways. cash cobain is effecively an industry plant
@boink3666
@boink3666 4 ай бұрын
Did you listen to free fall by tems ft.cole
@nathandada8963
@nathandada8963 5 ай бұрын
Bro has changed the tile like 5 times
@projectstoicism
@projectstoicism 4 ай бұрын
That's the name a the game dawg. We make art, it's quite disheartening when no one watches it. Sometimes we gotta change thumbnail and titles to make ppl wanna click
@Firen-vh3xc
@Firen-vh3xc 4 ай бұрын
ye its so common for youtubers to change the name. trying to get the algorithm to spit it out to more people I guess
@Force_RC21
@Force_RC21 4 ай бұрын
What was it before?
@lifestylemood
@lifestylemood 5 ай бұрын
Cole was never supposed to go against either Dot or Drake tho , bro was simply caught in the crossfire
@SaltyFacts
@SaltyFacts 4 ай бұрын
J Cole is smarter than we know. Unbothered
@jordanromesburg6819
@jordanromesburg6819 5 ай бұрын
I understand if you wanna plug your own merch twice, but at least record different audio for each one 😂 great video as always!
@jeremyvoss4461
@jeremyvoss4461 5 ай бұрын
Man change the title from this clickbait “J Cole Fell Off”. The video is about him being himself and honestly being incredibly in touch with himself and his goals. Gave me mad respect for him
@carlosnader7202
@carlosnader7202 3 ай бұрын
"For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" He knew where the beef was headed and bowed out before it went there. Kids should never be a part of a beef.
@donteray4151
@donteray4151 4 ай бұрын
might delete later is an amazing body of work.
@DFB-TV
@DFB-TV 5 ай бұрын
J. Cole is beloved because most of us are just as average. And wearing it is a good look. All he has to do is be consistent, and remain relatable.
@puppiesgoesrawr
@puppiesgoesrawr 5 ай бұрын
Why did you change the title? I think it was “is J cole still relevant” or something like that.
@p__kingg
@p__kingg 5 ай бұрын
What was it? I see a gang of ppl saying the same thing... I didnt see it at all
@bonnieinlove
@bonnieinlove 5 ай бұрын
When I first saw this it was "J Cole Fell Off"
@OdalyTorres1030
@OdalyTorres1030 21 күн бұрын
Who cares it’s his video lol let him change it a billion times if he wants 😂
@divineeternity7268
@divineeternity7268 4 ай бұрын
I dig this. Cole is like literally in the middle but he had always maintained that image of being the "person" rather than the "rapper". It's how I became a fan honestly. Cole is personal and spiritual. Kendrick and Drake are wearing opposites as there images. Kendrick embraces his past and wear it on his sleeves but with Drake it's like he become a completely different person 🤔.
@BeastNationXIV
@BeastNationXIV 4 ай бұрын
So basically, Cole quit the beef...and ultimately won out personally. So much for "never giving up"....because...sometimes it's better to do that (turn around away from a destructive path) than stay the course. 😊
@GS-mh6ub
@GS-mh6ub 5 ай бұрын
Might Delete Later is one of if not the dopest project of the year ‼️💯
@anotherdeadchannel
@anotherdeadchannel 4 ай бұрын
Literally We dont trust you is better
@BeastBoy557
@BeastBoy557 4 ай бұрын
@@anotherdeadchannelcap
@Nomad-sk3es
@Nomad-sk3es 4 ай бұрын
@@anotherdeadchannelmight delete later for me not only the best album this year but also maybe cole best ever.
@SJ-Lakui
@SJ-Lakui 4 ай бұрын
@@Nomad-sk3esthat’s insane
@helendelisle8914
@helendelisle8914 5 ай бұрын
Let me ask anyone who sees this this question: why should Cole have stayed in the beef and risk worsening his image (whether it be through GOAT status or personal allegations) when a large portion of the hip-hop community has been punching down on him since at least 2016?
@tesselate8nowait262
@tesselate8nowait262 4 ай бұрын
I’m with you. Cole is a legend in his own right. He has captured the hearts of a generation. When he’s on fire, his bars are unmatched. He will carry on in Cole fashion, and there will always be people who want to count him out. It’s a shame he got caught up in the beef. It’s K Dot’s time to shine right now. He laid down that whoopin, and used his victory lap to unite warring factions in his home town, as he should. He’s gotta have his moment. J Cole will have many more moments. He was right to back out of a very personal, ugly battle.
@JohnWickPotter
@JohnWickPotter 4 ай бұрын
Cole has nothing to prove. If you know Cole and are a big fan you understood immediately why he pulled out the beef.
@helendelisle8914
@helendelisle8914 4 ай бұрын
@@JohnWickPotter Yes bro, exactly
@thegreatbourne7889
@thegreatbourne7889 5 ай бұрын
Cole realized it just doesn’t sit right going after someone who he’s truly friends with. They’ve never had any issues ever. Drake and Kendrick is personal.
@pmainguy4780
@pmainguy4780 4 ай бұрын
Drake was prideful, Kendrick was petty, and Cole was mature. It takes balls to do what he did and in the end it was the right thing
@ForrestPump
@ForrestPump 4 ай бұрын
8:56 That bit about The Reluctant Hero, The Hollow Champion, and The Every Man sums up these three so well.
@Lee-ui2sx
@Lee-ui2sx 5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣might delete later had buzz before the diss🤦‍♂🤦‍♂
@namespaced4437
@namespaced4437 5 ай бұрын
it was a dissapointment tho. Crocodile Tearz (MDL 2 i think) was good, but some of the songs felt rushed so he could reply to kendrick with 7 min drill. if like that had dropped after cole was done touring, MDL could have been way better
@treyroberts4025
@treyroberts4025 5 ай бұрын
@@namespaced4437bruh u a hater frfr
@namespaced4437
@namespaced4437 5 ай бұрын
@@treyroberts4025 nah im a fan but it wasnt as good as i thought it would be. i heard the first and second might delete later songs before the mixtape released and thought it would be way better
@smaaron_j_46
@smaaron_j_46 4 ай бұрын
@@namespaced4437 tbf, they were demo tape songs meant to test the waters of his next album
@kingman-fm4dq
@kingman-fm4dq 4 ай бұрын
I mean ffs, the album is called "might delete later" what did you expect?
@moronitheboi3512
@moronitheboi3512 4 ай бұрын
Hey volksgeist I thought this video was amazing and me personally I’m a huge j Cole fan and I’d love to see a video on his full career just as a suggestion
@sef3134
@sef3134 4 ай бұрын
I cannot blv he called might delete later "ok at best" LMAO
@kimzziereenee1638
@kimzziereenee1638 4 ай бұрын
IKR??!!
@aquariusstar7248
@aquariusstar7248 4 ай бұрын
I'm wondering did he really listen to it!😂😂
@kimzziereenee1638
@kimzziereenee1638 4 ай бұрын
@@aquariusstar7248 He may have only given it a surface listen. You gotta spend time with those songs, especially Pi. Cole’s verse was a straight up Kendrick diss or at least a personal message to him- and diabolically delivered. Peeps missed it.
@Nay8ight
@Nay8ight 4 ай бұрын
hahaha I swear, will def put that above the previous project.
@therebellion96
@therebellion96 5 ай бұрын
This is neither here nor there on the topic, but I just wanted to show Volkgeist some love for a second. I don't watch your videos that much, but I can already tell your channel has a better vibe compared to the other channels that talk about hip-hop or the industry in general. Channels like Mattyballz, SunnyV2, Louista, and Hip Hop Madness are filled to the brim with videos that do nothing but focus on the negative! Clickbait titles and thumbnails that all look the same with that oversaturated pastel look. It's never anything positive; it's always something negative or painting certain people in a different light. Because drama and negativity gets more views than diverse coverage. But you don't do that. You do your best to show the Good, the Bad *and* the Ugly when making these videos. And I can tell you actually care about what goes on and you have respect for the people you're talking about. At least to a certain extent. It's not always about the views for you and I respect that. You and Jake Zeeman AKA Soulr are examples of good KZbin Video Essay journalists. The only advice/criticism that I have is maybe make it a point to be impartial. I'd rather you not give us your personal opinion in your coverage. You did not have to tell us that you were a Drake hater or that you didn't like the MDL mixtape. Not that I feel different, it just wasn't important for us to know that. And maybe try not recycle the same animations so many times throughout the video. But other than that, great job! Keep doing what you're doing! Much love! I'll swing buy the store and take a look at that necklace!
@ashthegoat2387
@ashthegoat2387 5 ай бұрын
15s ago is wilddd
@fabioj-
@fabioj- 5 ай бұрын
the kendrick glazing during his introduction is crazy lmao
@tesselate8nowait262
@tesselate8nowait262 4 ай бұрын
The man has made some of the best, most thought-provoking albums of this generation, won a historic beef, and used that opportunity to hold a peaceful coalition of every warring faction of LA gang culture. He went home to Compton yesterday to allow anyone who lived there to take part in his music video. He’s legendary. Glazing is only natural. J Cole is a legend in his own right. I don’t think there’s another artist in hip hop that touches my heart as much. It’s just K Dot’s moment right now, and that’s ok. As for Drake…I’m sure he’ll dust himself off and start making party songs again. He’s just going to have a limp from that ass whooping.
@valeriexo8102
@valeriexo8102 5 ай бұрын
Cole IS ONE OF THE BEST RAPPERS because he is a good person and apologized that makes him a bad person? NOT! MAYBE IN A SATAN RULED WORLD. If you worship the true God or even know him, if you make a mistake you feel guilty and you apologize. That is a REAL MAN! KUDDOS TO JERMAINE! #COLEWORLD
@valeriexo8102
@valeriexo8102 5 ай бұрын
Ok I came back because I commented before I heard the entire video, you did J. Cole justice so thanks for the video
@justforshow1993
@justforshow1993 5 ай бұрын
J.cole is a humble soul a brilliant artist a super dope MC and still a g.o.a.t fuck what Anthony says.
@atomichamster2709
@atomichamster2709 5 ай бұрын
I hate when people act like Coke doesn’t even come close to Kendrick Lamar on a storytelling front. Listen to Once an Addict Interlude, or the entirety of 4YEO
@Brotherjoe1996
@Brotherjoe1996 3 ай бұрын
Based on what they represent and how they approach their music and goals behind the music, they equal 3 legends from the past. Drake is the equivalent to Michael Jackson, Kendrick is the equivalent to Prince, and Cole is the equivalent to Bob Marley. Drake makes the more popular music, Kendrick makes music to express himself and the result of it follows, and Cole makes music that contributes to the spirit and expressing love and peace through it. All equally important and have different impacts on a person depending on the person or the what they’re going through at the time.
@jusjamel
@jusjamel 5 ай бұрын
Fuck what they talking about, I appreciate this video. Thank you for it. - kdot fan
@sprm34kncell
@sprm34kncell 5 ай бұрын
I really love your vids. I always walk away from them with more than just music information.
@Ghost19_
@Ghost19_ 5 ай бұрын
The way I see it, J Cole's legacy remains the same. A lot of people incl influencers and other rappers / singers eventually realized that he actually did the right thing, and that he actually won on his own terms. My only gripe is... How and why the heck did he have to do that Grippy afterwards? 😂
@joshuachettiar1573
@joshuachettiar1573 5 ай бұрын
I felt this way low key but I'm completely in this perspective after watching this video. Honestly what a beautiful man.
@grigordavtyan1848
@grigordavtyan1848 5 ай бұрын
"Real power lies in a man who knows his limits, rather than in a fool who thinks he is invincible" -Some smart guy(probably)
@omidshekarabi6449
@omidshekarabi6449 4 ай бұрын
Ive liked Jcole .. now I wish i can be like him and live in his example. . . the amount of character and willpower it takes to take a L on a rap beef and apologies in order to keep true to one self is an examplary act
@MyNameIsNyx
@MyNameIsNyx 5 ай бұрын
cole for sure isnt THE best, this beef made that really clear. but he for sure is still top3. i think he is happy with that
@Thelifeofthegoat
@Thelifeofthegoat 2 ай бұрын
I dont think anyone has a problem with Cole not wanting to be part of the beef as it was not personal for him. The problem was apologizing to Kendrick as if he was his Dad.
@nathanyielgovea8536
@nathanyielgovea8536 5 ай бұрын
do you research, might delete later had been teased for weeks before the beef started, wasn’t “thrown together” had been planned prior 😂
@CiRdy34
@CiRdy34 3 ай бұрын
The casuals that say "but how come it's not cowardly that he stepped aside from the beef if he's been rapping about being the best for his entire career??" are so blinded.
@calvinchaba
@calvinchaba 5 ай бұрын
Great video but saying Kendrick is not relatable and masking of a persona is your opinion not everyone.when everyone that listens to him say how his music has helped people come out of holes they did not seem to think they could
@JohnWickPotter
@JohnWickPotter 4 ай бұрын
I was one of the few people, I feel, that had no issues when Cole initially backed out of the beef. I respected him for it and immediately understood.
@themonarch620
@themonarch620 4 ай бұрын
Okay let me tell my point of view on this beef. Kendrick and Cole have a long history as friends, Cole and Drake too. So what i see is that Kendrick took his chance to once and for all get over Cole as Greatest without a doubt. For Kendrick it was a chance to hit both Drake and Cole, Two birds with one stone. Kendrick would never get a leverage on Cole because Cole is clean on all sides. Literaly a person with no weakness. And Kendrick somehow saw a gap in that perfect defense by connecting him to Drake. Even if you think it was only bad for Drake, Cole's image as a possible goat is destroyed by this move. Truly a check and mate by Kendrick. The only way Cole has a chance to be in the goat coversation is to drop an undisputed classic hip hop album that overshadows his connection with Drake. The Fall Off will be the deciding album of his career. Will he stay as a legend that never reached goat status or a new gen GOAT that defines his generation.
@kimzziereenee1638
@kimzziereenee1638 4 ай бұрын
I 90% agree with your analysis!! However, Kendrick made a fatal error-he did NOT take the body shot Cole offered with his “apology”. Therefore, he left the door open for the lyrical competition with Cole we have been looking for. IMHO, Kendrick can absolutely claim victory from this beef with Drake and all of the accolades that accompany that win, BUT until his pen is challenged by the only other rapper that has been deemed to go against him, he can’t be called GOAT-just yet. @themonarch620
@ThePremierGroupLLC
@ThePremierGroupLLC 4 ай бұрын
J Cole & Kendrick reciting DMX lyrics at the beginning of the video was DOPE 💯💯💯!!!
@alexovery5227
@alexovery5227 5 ай бұрын
We all knew this bro Grippy is a historic tune
@freddiepaulson8326
@freddiepaulson8326 4 ай бұрын
They could never make me hate you J.Cole
@arilegall2001
@arilegall2001 5 ай бұрын
The might delete laterproject was ironically one of the albums of the year in my opinion
@namespaced4437
@namespaced4437 5 ай бұрын
nah honestly as a cole fan it was kinda scattered if it had a few more weeks it coulda been better
@GS-mh6ub
@GS-mh6ub 5 ай бұрын
Exactly bro... that project is classical. I'm not sure if others haven't listened to it well enough but to call the album mid or just ok is diabolical.
@TheCjdaigle
@TheCjdaigle 5 ай бұрын
Only thing I don't like is the title of the video, I was waiting for you to just shit on cole for 25 minutes, but you did a good job at pointing out that cole is just human like us. Cole did what felt good to him and that makes me happy for him. Keep up the good work.
@Scamp2x
@Scamp2x 5 ай бұрын
So dramatic, dude is good
@enigma7310
@enigma7310 2 ай бұрын
*When you showed that clip of Ak loosing faith on Drake's side I died...😂 **3:48*
@melan8ed197
@melan8ed197 5 ай бұрын
Diabolic title change💀💀💀
@onalennamoroeng8778
@onalennamoroeng8778 5 ай бұрын
What was the original name?
@chronosoulja
@chronosoulja 5 ай бұрын
It’s very true he probably struggled with the internal battle of wanting to be recognised as one of the best to ever do it and his overall view of his morals and what’s right to him which he ended up taking the moral route which I respect. Stood on his principles not his ego
@marvindavinho
@marvindavinho 5 ай бұрын
We can hate on Drake all he want but he atleast to the shot to the face instead of on the back compared to cole who cant say the same.
@francomorapoblete106
@francomorapoblete106 4 ай бұрын
7:39 YOU COOKED SO HARD WITH THAT "MIDDLE CHILD IN THE BIG 3" LINE
@travissmith1488
@travissmith1488 4 ай бұрын
Bro the might delete later album was fire 🔥🔥🔥 you do you mean mid?
@syxph3r
@syxph3r 5 ай бұрын
That ad in the video got so deep.... that was nice
@lightlouis
@lightlouis 5 ай бұрын
Doesn’t have a classic album? Do the critics not listen to his music??
@Bobsam-m1p
@Bobsam-m1p 5 ай бұрын
A great album doesn't mean it's a classic and a classic album doesn't mean it's great. JID last album was exceptional, but it wasn't a classic.
@bugdestroyer1258
@bugdestroyer1258 5 ай бұрын
A classic has to shift the culture permanently. Cole did not do that with any of his albums, no matter how good they were
@ellamartintsova5615
@ellamartintsova5615 5 ай бұрын
we do and were always right 🐩🍑🥷
@jhardi_official366
@jhardi_official366 5 ай бұрын
The no feature and no realese date album made waves to me because it was at time when everyone was grabbing for the biggest feature to get clout.
@brycestpeter
@brycestpeter 5 ай бұрын
J Cole’s 2014 Forest Hills Drive was the first album I listened to in full from the “big three”
@punkpanther86
@punkpanther86 5 ай бұрын
HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE THE TITLE!?
@Volksgeist
@Volksgeist 5 ай бұрын
until you lose your mind
@xyink3783
@xyink3783 5 ай бұрын
Philip is alive, let's gooo!
@MeDeChamp
@MeDeChamp 5 ай бұрын
I’m calling this now, J Cole and Drake gonna beef next.
@timhargrow
@timhargrow 5 ай бұрын
Why?
@bradley8614
@bradley8614 5 ай бұрын
@@timhargrow I'd love to hear why they think that too. If I had to guess the bad blood of Cole leaving Drake in the beef alone may boil to a point where Drake does things to actively fuck over Cole and his career (as best he can, Cole's career is too big to really be hurt behind the scenes from another artist). It could escalate to the point where Cole can't take that kind of direct disrespect anymore and they go at it. Or it just becomes a personal grudge with no diss tracks involved. Either way I can see something like that happening.
@captainfalcon1160
@captainfalcon1160 5 ай бұрын
You don't know hip hop saying that
@jaahnnn
@jaahnnn 5 ай бұрын
Is j Cole gonna run after dropping his diss again?
@shaildarji9555
@shaildarji9555 5 ай бұрын
​@@timhargrow mostly because Drake never likes to hold himself responsible and always actively tries to blame others for the wrong things happening to him, and I can 100% predict he's gonna blame Cole for all this.
@shotti50
@shotti50 4 ай бұрын
this was insightful my man amazing content as usual so refreshingly different but accurate.
@thetruthisreal-s1s
@thetruthisreal-s1s 5 ай бұрын
im sorry, but you can't take away an entire mans career just because he did what was right. he has been one of the realest artists in history. talented as well. a youtube video won't change that as he won the hearts of many
@jaahnnn
@jaahnnn 5 ай бұрын
Anybody riding with j Cole is just as soft as he is after claiming he was #1 then ran and hid like a bish
@smaaron_j_46
@smaaron_j_46 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@jaahnnn there’s nothing soft about realizing when the battle you step In isn’t yours. But of course, you have a ride or die hood mentality, so I can see you dunno nun’ ‘bout daaat 😂
@jaahnnn
@jaahnnn 5 ай бұрын
J Cole has a white mother and uses the n word constantly. Something else you can probably relate to that I can't
@thetruthisreal-s1s
@thetruthisreal-s1s 5 ай бұрын
@jaahnnn stop it... he dropped one "mid" song and mfs start tripping😂his music speaks for itself go take a listen
@thetruthisreal-s1s
@thetruthisreal-s1s 5 ай бұрын
@jaahnnn better yet go watch a music video like crooked smile and start learning to appreciate
@veiledrecalcitrance4314
@veiledrecalcitrance4314 4 ай бұрын
I know a lot of people talked shit about Cole backing out, but I thought he was smart. He had no dog in this fight, got dragged in, realized he didn’t have any reason to create enemies when all that was there was friends and removed himself from the beef. It was a smart move on his part for sure
@Noseflap-watching
@Noseflap-watching 5 ай бұрын
J Cole. I heard you was conflicted
@josephodighibor2456
@josephodighibor2456 4 ай бұрын
He simply the realest.. wonderful material bro
@youngmurk100
@youngmurk100 5 ай бұрын
Aye can I ask a question when did being a man become a bad thing😅 J. Cole a man ❤
@branard5748
@branard5748 2 ай бұрын
Cole out here enjoyin his life making good choices. bro 100% won in all this.
@ty_rekeee
@ty_rekeee 2 ай бұрын
On god
@RubenSevilla-zz6tj
@RubenSevilla-zz6tj 5 ай бұрын
you're such a sensasionalist. You out here thinking you're changing the world with your elocuence, but you're just discussin a big3 fabricated topic for bored people. They dont compete, its much more simple, they just make music, its not about winning or losing
@averageenjoyer3934
@averageenjoyer3934 5 ай бұрын
Came into the video thinking "short answer is yes, but I don't care" and left getting teary eyed when love yourz started playing
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