Volvo dumps Polestar (Video 4 of 4 from Sunday Funday)

In video number 4 in this week's BIG SUNDAY, we're looking at an article from the Financial Times about Polestar's relationship with Volvo, and asking some questions about what happens next.

[@storm-sf5rj]

i saw a report that GM are stoping making EV's and going back to making only ICE Cars and Trucks 🤔 i love it when a plan comes together 😊

[@David-tt2mt]

Also love it sometimes when a plan falls apart!😂

[@scaryfakevirus]

@@David-tt2mt It really was always inevitable.

[@LilaKuhJunge]

GM never started producing EVs, the "Bolt" was based on rebadged Korean Daewoo (now "Chevrolet").

[@BasketCase]

ICE Truckers was a great series ❤

[@salnaturile8653]

​@@LilaKuhJunge- so the CEO just announced they're going to stop producing something they weren't producing in the first place ?? Wow!

[@robertbush6652]

What have a man with diarrhoea and someone with an ev have in common? they both hope they will make it home! 😂

[@foxstrangler]

thought you were going to say they are both full of ..it

[@peterevans2237]

😅😅✌️🇬🇧

[@blick63able]

😂

[@blackjockofmangertonpele]

They're always in search of the next plug?

[@steamsearcher]

You have so cheered me up today. 18 year old TINO of course.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

R.I.P. Private Pike.....

[@moonshinepz]

standing at the pearly gates and Mainwarings voice comes from inside "don't tell him your name, Pike". RIP Ian.

[@ispy3836]

Sad.

[@JoeBManco]

Container ships use marine grade diesel fuel. It is the dirtiest sludge that can't be used on land because of government land regulations. There is virtually no laws on the sea, so any fuel can be used.

[@davidbale5954]

Hi Geoff, There is one big advantage of owning an EV that you have not mentioned. Who in their right mind would want to steal it.

[@RichardASK]

But shouldn't that make them 'cheaper' to insure?

[@fabulousglasswarden]

Both houses & cars have become too expensive for most Americans these days, most especially for single people and/or single-income households. Even a lot of 2 income households can't afford them.

[@oliverreedslovechild]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Plemmonsscott]

This issue has been exacerbated by the practices of insurance companies, which can have negative effects as well. Some insurance companies may contribute to rising prices by providing coverage that encourages risky lending and speculation. Additionally, certain insurance policies can be expensive, making it even more challenging for families to secure affordable properties. It's important for individuals tor consider diversifying their income streams, independent of government reliance, as a wise approach in the current situation.

[@GreggVElrod]

What if you don't know how to trade any of these? I mean, see your point some people have the money and are willing to invest, the question is where to.

[@AlexLancashirePersonalView]

Car thieves have stollen your hat, Geoff. They came to steal your BMW but decided the hat was worth more.

[@scaryfakevirus]

If it was the MacMasters Porsche then I would agree.

[@Nite-owl]

They've Christmas breaded his hat?

[@aaronbryan5095]

Good thing Albanians don't seem to care much about BMWs, unlike their obsession with Mercedes

[@FreeFlyerUk]

EVs just don't cell.

[@TheHansoost]

Thanks, I got a charge out of that.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

Oh, that's shocking! BTW, I think many people might miss that one

[@ianhaines5788]

See what you did there 😂

[@smelltheglove2038]

Why fi-nance an EV?

[@danielnln]

I CE what ya did there

[@MyAvaGrace]

I was just walking through a shopping cemtre, where Merc have a stand. They are advertising an unregistered Merc EQ "was £81000, now £50000, saving £30000. Really an unregistered car with 30 grand off. HA Ha Ha.

[@bsimpson6204]

Desperate times for EV sales, how long before it all comes crashing down around their ears

[@David-tt2mt]

Batterys not included!😂

[@theadventuresofred19]

@@bsimpson6204 weeks only

[@CosmicSeeker69]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@CosmicSeeker69]

​@@bsimpson6204it IS. 2023 was Peak EV ✌️

[@c1a2t3a4p5i6l7l8a9r]

Ships that sail across the ocean run on Bunker oil. Also known as fuel oil. Sailing one for 2 weeks is the equivalent to driving 5 million cars for an entire year

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

Also bunker oil is the dirtiest fraction left after the distillation of crude oil, once you’ve taken off the paraffin, petrol and diesel oil. It’s absolute muck.

[@doriangray6985]

Absolutely, so why are the governments going after cars? They should be going after ships.

[@1971wizzard]

HA HA HA HA….. comical… you couldn’t write this stuff!!!! Love it!!

[@grantta7450]

You should google how much CO2 a cruise liner puts out!!!!!! That's never talked about😂

[@spice3767]

158 miles on the clock……so about the range of a charge in real life then….🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnwilliamson8110]

Ionic …. Ironic

[@peterstudley1804]

Long straight clouds , chem trails , so true, great video as always 👍

[@vandamonium1731]

but geoff helped by flying to rhodes so sprayed most of europe 😆🤣

[@RetroGamesCollector]

Always find it ironic that I have to sit through ads for EVs before one of your vids Geoff. 😂

[@oliverreedslovechild]

AdBlock Ultimate, you know it makes sense!

[@stevebosun7410]

Hi Geoff, a crumbling EV market. Let's hope it continues apace. Or even E-Pace?

[@OldskoolCatflap]

The E-Pace is ICE. It’s the i-Pace that’s an EV.

[@Bucharestguidedtours]

My Local ford Dealership in Scotland has just become a BYD Dealership... tells a story of how stupid the world is going. Best wishes , Great Channel.

[@brownbag1465]

EVANS HALLSHAW?

[@Bucharestguidedtours]

@@brownbag1465 Was Arnold Clark Ford Linwood, and I hear Pollockshaws Road is away as well.

[@NiceLoki]

What is BYD?

[@Bucharestguidedtours]

@@NiceLoki Chinese Electric Cars.

[@brownbag1465]

@@NiceLoki chinesium firework stands for burns your drive

[@davearmstrong2296]

The only thing green on an EV is the weeds that will grow on them once the battery needs to be changed. I am amazed anybody pays more than £1 for one.

[@kizz.Commented]

wow, well done Geoff

[@rolandbraithwaite7960]

One of the benefits of owning an EV none of the third world will have the infrastructure so they will not be worth stealing?? can't pore electric in the battery🤣

[@stevenwatson3963]

pour.

[@_Ekaros]

You know. Ethiopia is going to be first country to ban ICE cars...

[@robertgreen9614]

​​@@_EkarosThe same Ethiopia that only 1/4 of the rural population have access to electricity? The same Ethiopia whose main imports after wheat and fossil fuels are aviation, agricultural and construction machinery, which last time I looked run on fossil fuels? The new car market in Ethiopia is a couple of thousand cars a year, so big whoop. They tax the shit out of them anyway, the same new car in Kenya is half the price. They just don't want the peasants owning cars, and the ICE ban on personal transport is just another virtual signalling way of doing it. 90 odd percent of Ethiopia's "energy" comes from people burning shit, the ICE ban is a flea on an elephant's arse.

[@effigy42]

@@_Ekarosare you in support of mass blacks dying off then? Wtf do people hear themselves

[@stuart_thomas]

Polestar is joint owned by Volvo and geely. Geely own Volvo. Polestar is an EV only business now, so makes no sense for Volvo to manage it when it has its own EV line

[@tonyb3629]

Volvo are dumping their 'part ownership' in Polestar because the company is losing money hand over fist and is now a liability. If Polestar get the $1.3B they want, it will be gone in a few months, and they will be back cap in hand again, but not to Volvo, which is the point. This is nothing to do with competing product line-ups - it's just business, and Volvo don't want to be stuck bailing out a lame duck.

[@Mizzkan]

It was sold as a Volvo. The reality was it was always a piece of 💩 . Just hope you don’t own one.

[@matthewcoreyhall]

⁠@@MizzkanI rode in one, it was quite nice. I believe design will still be done in Sweden, and of course Volvo will continue to share design, technology and process. It makes a lot of sense for Volvo to offload their shares/control, at least financially. Improves the bottom-line. It didn't make a lot of sense for Polestar to be publicly traded, in addition to Volvo, under Geely.

[@Mizzkan]

@@matthewcoreyhall It’s Chinese crap and nobody is buying them. Get over it.

[@hyballs]

Everytime someone says Polestar I think of the Annual Mynx Pole Dance Extravaganza!

[@didymous8913]

Love reading the 2000 (so far) comments on the Telegraph article on Evs today. Spotted one defending EVs, eventually.

[@Clarky006]

Sensible stuff happening. ESG policy can interfere as much as it likes. But the free market will balance it out, just on the fact that if the product as a result of the hype isn’t better than existing cars in all categories, range, convenience, cost - then no one with an ounce of financial sense is going to purchase current EV’s.

[@danielnln]

"Just like everything else that i do. Old and used." Misses Geoff will NOT be happy hearing this 🤣

[@sardav160479]

I'm SHOCKED Volvo has ditched Polestar although it doesn't take a bright SPARK to see why

[@johndoe-qg7jp]

He he he😅😂

[@Elsie-uy2kl]

You always bring us the news we don't need to know Geoff. Only kidding. Another great video. Watching you makes my day - as well as that other fella, the MacMaster. 😂👍

[@rayhall3954]

New channel, "Geof looses hat, glasses, reason and sanity but still wants to buy cars". Volvo for sale anyone? Let's help get Geof back on track, and not the ones in the sky either. Keep the faith mate.

[@mervynrandall5608]

Hi Geoff, have you seen what has happened with parking I Paris, lot of EV's now fall in higher charges

[@CosmicSeeker69]

What, as well as London?

[@after_midnight9592]

@@CosmicSeeker69yes, heavy suvs don't belong into the city. They have a point, cars grew over all constraints, about time manufacturers start making smaller economical cars again. 2 tonne 5 meter suv belongs only into a trash compactor.

[@cornishhh]

One of my local car parks has had it's bays widened twice in the last 20 years. They're still very tight if you get the bigger SUVs together. I reckon it's dropped at least 5% of it's spaces. Probably closer to 10%.

[@johndoe-qg7jp]

Now that's a surprise 😂😅🤣😆😄👍🏽

[@djtaylorutube]

At least the EV's can still drive in Paris, ICE banned outright in parts. Other cities will follow.

[@bishopcolenso]

I seem to be living on nostalgia too these days Geoff! ☺

[@elliotoliver8679]

Nostalgia isn’t what it used to be……

[@Checklight66]

The latest Polestar emits 20T of CO2 for each one made, 9 tonne in battery alone. As a comparison, my 1995 Toyota camry wagon created 1.08T of CO2 in it's manufacture and 382KG of CO2 per year. The life of the Polestar would be no more than 10years, if battery was never fast charged. It would take 2.7 Polestars to reach the life of my Camry, which due to major engine service and respray, has another 10 years in it.

[@ghunt9146]

Serious question. What of Volvos' commitment to go all EV in the next few years?

[@SierraNovemberKilo]

I think it was their statement under the Mental Health Act. Now that they've recovered they're only at smaller risk of being Sectioned.

[@thegallantsaint2034]

They need to get real and snap out of it.

[@grande_007]

Remember the late 80’s/ early 90’s futuristic cowboy cartoon, Bravestar who had eyes of a hawk, the strength of a bear and the speed of a pooma (aka Puma, it was American). Always think of it with Polestar. Their special skill could be ‘Speed of EV depreciation’ rather than pooma?

[@BasketCase]

We need the Polestar to navigate once the Global electric grid goes down 😮

[@Colin-From-Corby-yy4vb]

Loved this video, made me laugh anyway, but you've hit the nail on the head at the end of the video regarding which badge would you like on your new car ?😄 so true !

[@RichardASK]

Here's an idea, which some might call a little revolutionary. Why don't Volvo go back to making Diesel and Petrol cars which people used to choose to buy in reasonably large numbers, because they were pretty reliable, comfortable and quite nice to drive? Or is that too radical, but they might just make some money then.

[@Mc674bo]

Just imagine how I feel Geoff I have a great friend who has a pole star and a discovery , and a wonderful neighbour who has a new discovery . Good friends are hard to come by , so it pains me to think they have been had . Yes indeed they can probably take a hit , but it still doesn’t make it right . Kind regards

[@teekay_1]

The Polestar, from a design perspective is actually quite nice; it puts Tesla to shame. But the Achilles heel is twofold: A high out-the-door price and the real killer a useful range of only 220 miles. And before you say "But I only drive 5 miles a day", then why would you purchase a $65K+ car for driving 25 miles a week? Also, every time I see the word "Polestar", I keep thinking it's "Polecat"

[@lukemallory7832]

If I was the founder of Polestar, I'd be feeling a little sick. Yes, financially they probably did well when Volvo took it on. But once upon a time Polestar was just a racing team that looked after Volvo's Swedish touring cars, as TWR looked after the 850/S40 BTCC cars. And now they're seeing their name going to be slapped on some Chinese rubbish. The Polestar 1 was also supposed to be the new C70, based on the Concept Coupe, but we were robbed of that too, and they turned it into that ridiculous, over-priced hybrid nonsense. Imagine if that thing had the old 5 cylinder in it, what a car it would have been.. all the way back in 2013... when the 2.5t was still being made as well as the 3.0 T6.

[@bentullett6068]

They should have stuck to the tuning department side of things and kept producing hybrids like the Polestar 1

[@RetroGamesCollector]

Yup, MG was a great marque once too. The Chinese cheapen and rubbish anything they get hold of.

[@fungames24]

Chinese rubbish volvo is owned by geely.

[@thegallantsaint2034]

My sentiments exactly. Polestar was synonymous with racing. The tragic emasculation of a brand. What a shame.

[@kamilianos]

JLR is the British Leyland of today. We will be laughing about it in a few year time. Shame as they have some heritage and class about them, but even that is not enough to make up for the shortbacks. Imagine Range Rover with Lexus electronics and engine : )

[@shug3481]

Hi Geoff my Volvo XC40 inscription is due for its four year service and M.O.T. 2.0 turbo PETROL I will be grinning all over my face as Volvo have stopped making my model which has been fabulous by the way.❤

[@BRMCaptChaos]

I'm in a new shape V60 CC and it's brilliant. I get the sense Volvo will come back into the space and build great cars again.

[@Iceeeen]

did it come equiped with Peltors? Have never ever driven a worse insulated car. China crap

[@DAVIDE-bk8by]

Fun fact, the actual Pole Star is always in the same place and has been for 1000s of years and yet we and everything else is hurtling through space at 500,000 mph since the big bang ejected everything out....allegedly. Something to think about

[@stevenwatson3963]

Yup, the globe, just like battery cars is another joke...

[@DAVIDE-bk8by]

@@stevenwatson3963 I know. I left that bit out as some will get triggered

[@wearetheremnants1615]

Movement is definitely fake news 😂

[@johnmoncrieff3034]

Perhaps the pole Star is the seat of GOD???? He is watching us from on high and determining that the people are in the right not those in power who are forcing these stupid EV's on the masses!😂🎯🎯🌟

[@Lbm414.Oleg.Kuznetsov.]

Even though Polaris is the North Star today, this has not always been the case. The place in the sky that the Earth's north pole points at changes slowly over time. This movement is called stellar precession. In 3000 BC, a faint star called Thuban in the constellation of Draco was the North Star. Polaris did not become the North Star until about AD 500. It will get closer to straight above the Earth's north pole until sometime in 2102. Then it will move away again. It will be the closest star to the pole until about AD 3000

[@ChalcedonXXX]

A combination of driver frustration, massive depreciation, huge insurance costs and rubbish infrastructure for charging plus EV fires will ultimately kill the EV market unless we get dilithium batteries that charge in seconds and travel light years.

[@1971wizzard]

Your cap has run away with the circus … it can’t handle the honesty truth and integrity you abound buddy…. Your cap couldn’t handle your stature… it gave way to the beany…it needed a home and your head Geoff…. Was a fantastic move!!!!

[@TimK2646]

I have Evoque and very upset

[@AlzhinSon]

0:40 I'm sure your lady will be delighted to hear that 😂

[@graemejones218]

Well Geoff, 1: I'm from Halesowen. 2: Went to the plumbers this morning which is next door to a JLR showroom, & it's gone, it's now a Volvo showroom with no sight of Polestars. 3: I used to work at LR Solihull & Longbridge Rover back in the 90's, & one of my jobs was to straighten the split tailgate on all Range Rovers. Using a rubber mallet as they didn't seal & would let in water. PS: What the hell has happened to Halesowen's road system by the bus station and past the church? Haven't been for years but I'm told it's 1 way !!!!!!! It worked fine before.

[@ericpolak2915]

Bedankt

[@Tore_Lund]

Historically EVs had deplorable resale value, because the expectation is the battery will be shot, This holds true even for Teslas. Try selling a model S or P85 today! I actually think this time over, as opposed to the previous EV craze in the 90', it will be even worse because of the manufacturer only repairs and spares and no DIY or independent workshop repairs.

[@LossyLossnitzer]

good luck with firmware updates then in a polestar in the future, Geelee will not be around in 2028 and £1 Billion will be nothing in 2028.

[@BLOWN8CYLINDER]

It was never going to be a hit when it's badge is a wonky Citroen badge 🤔🤣

[@MarkHiggins-hq1st]

Look at the leasing costs of EVs so cheap because they cannot sell them retail.

[@andljoy]

Ignore them Geoff , that shirt is fantastic. (where did you get it ?) Also the whole EV thing , possibly if you did not try to force them on people and over saturate the market all the EVs would not be deprecating like a rock in water. EVs have a place just not forced onto us.

[@robertkubrick3738]

BEV have a place. The place is called China.

[@Mizzkan]

A polestar, a sport car 😂😂😂 It’s like calling a turd a diamond.

[@thahbx]

Polestar used to be top spec performance orientated models 10 years ago. There is a nice video of one tuned for more than 700 HP (S60 or V60 I'm not sure). Worth checking

[@dex2531]

Polestar 1 was a sports car. Nobody seems to understand finances here, Geely is simply moving money around so that Volvo doesn't need to put stake into Polestar. It's a subsidiary offloading holdings to a parent company. It changes nothing about existing services and contracts between the subsidiaries. Volvo offloading will make the balance sheets will look better. Just look, their stock went up. Tesla has been aggressively undercutting the competition by offloading their older supply and using government incentives to try to claw back on lower sales. Makes the resale market look less appealing. As for the Polestar 2 being sold, that's just one single sample. We don't know what condition that car is and why it isn't attracting buyers.

[@daleskidmore1685]

Polestars are massive! I saw one next to a Tesla in Tescos and they took up 3 spaces. The do do a nice looking sports car in their ads. 158 miles on the clock.... that's barely 2 charges on the battery.

[@phileasflogg9045]

Didn't Volvo proclaim a few years back that they were going to stop making ICE XC90s at around 21/22?

[@Chilled_Mackers]

I've never purchased a new vehicle, I do not suppose I ever will. I'd rather spend that amount of money rebuilding a good looking classic car. Plus the sheer amount of depreciation that occurs as soon as you leave the forecourt in a new car is 'shocking'. That goes for petrol, diesel or electric or any hybrid variation.

[@Wayne-Jones]

Geoff! If you can’t find your hat, by definition it must be lost 🤣

[@5ebra1]

I thought all Volvos were going to be electric? What cars will they sell.

[@MrFuckwit999]

Volvo EVs

[@5ebra1]

@@MrFuckwit999 But they use the same platform. Is it just badge engineering then?

[@Upemm]

Is this same Volvo that were going totally stop production on ICE cars by 2030 🤔😂

[@foxstrangler]

That's why the biggest by volume dealership in my neck of the woods dropped the franchise after 50 years and concentrate on the secondhand market. The main dealer I have to get parts from now thinks like me - Volvo have shot themselves in both feet as they have dropped the Estate sales in the UK.

[@grantp7975]

Perhaps one of the original benefits of Volvo "owning" the Polestar brand was the ability to farm credits for EV manufacturing so that Volvo could buy them as they still had mostly "large" ICE cars and the eco penalties would have been huge. Moving to an all electric model range changes the rationale for that business association. Geely might have a way of shifting that to, for example, Lotus to allow the credits from the new SUV thing to offset the penalties for the proper sports cars. Of course it is all smoke and mirrors and always has been.

[@richardallen503]

All positive no negativity there then !

[@tiagogoncalves2355]

Thanks God! We want back the 5 and 6 cylinders back!

[@karachaffee3343]

What is in a name? When I first heard "Polestar" , all I could think of was "Polecat" . Sounds like Volvo has figured out the whole idea was snake-bit from the get-go.

[@davidclarke2513]

I've supported spurs since 1961 and mate your a spitting image of Christrian Eriksen

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Not the first time I’ve had to google what he looks like because someone has said that 😂😂😂

[@olivethrush7450]

These EV fires are no flash in the pan!

[@jerryorange6983]

Polestar bankrupted my Uber driving friend. He had the hybryd before and it was ok. He decided to to go EV and that was the end of his carrier.

[@onthebuses]

Stirling Sharing 🥃📡🥃

[@Paul-ou1rx]

That is interesting they call it a "Global slowdown". That is exactly how they tried to introduce electric cars. The entire globe must transition to electric vehicles. The majority of the globe or even people in modern industrialized countries can't afford electric vehicles. Our current infrastructure can't support the vehicles they have managed to sell. Besides, who would want to buy a new emerging tech that will be obsolete before it is even paid off? Only the very wealthy or a robust middle class can afford to do that and they have destroyed the middle class and there are not enough wealthy people to support the new industry. The emerging wealth of China will not buy their cars, they will buy their own.

[@SteveN-pw4dj]

I would be a bit suspicious of a car that has driven less than 200 miles in 1 year.

[@travelwithtony5767]

EV’s went from being wildly popular, to barely surviving on life support, to flat lining…in less than two years. Take your time 😢😂

[@MR_THINQ]

How ironic considering polestar just launch a new model ev with no rear window 😂😂😂😂 Which of course no one will buy!

[@CosmicSeeker69]

How to stack the deck against yourself 😂😂

[@gustaveliasson5395]

Links to 1/4, 2/4, and 3/4?

[@willtricks9432]

My first phone was a Motorola which you could put 4xAAA's in and was on orange and it worked.

[@willtaylor6112]

Polestar was Volvo's race engineering department in the early 2000's and did the hot versions of Volvos like the C30 PCP which was basically just a remapped C30 T5 . I have no idea why they went electric but they certainly aren't sports cars now but trying to live off their past success.

[@SmallWonda]

You do have your finger on the pulse, Geoff... Maybe we've reached the tipping point - that almost everyone who wants(ed) an EV has one... An interesting question might also be - how many have freely traded up (ie: not on account of business) so bought a 2nd or 3rd EV? Another might be - do they KNOW the COST of making an EV (compare that to ICE)? Have a g'day - from Australia.

[@ThroughJermainesLens]

Polestar started off as a tuner for race related volvo cars, I think that is why they call it that

[@thegallantsaint2034]

Polestar had racing in their DNA. What a shame…

[@BernardSamson-hf6fc]

Geoff, Your hat is in the last place you had it, look there!

[@6chhelipilot]

Hi. I went to see a Polestar the other night.

[@schrodingerscat1863]

EVs are quickly becoming a milestone around car manufacturers necks, all EV devisions making huge losses with expected sales failing to materialise after huge investments.

[@ciarancosgrave]

Hold on. So this person bought the Polestar very recently and now they want a bigger car. Did they not know what size the Polestar was when they bought it a few months ago? Did they buy it from a catalogue or something?

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Yeah normally catalogue stuff comes up smaller 😂😂

[@granada012000]

I think originally Polestar was the main remappers for Volvo. I could be wrong.

[@poosmate]

I had a thought about JLR. I remember the video you made about JLR wanting to make posh cars for posh people. I wonder if all this "unable to insure" and "too expensive to insure" is their way of separating the classes so that only the filthy rich will be their customers. I wouldn't mind betting they already have a list of customers that are on a "priority" list and are always serviced first giving them a skewed view of JLS's actual service.

[@user-hd4vn4kf4n]

Maybe but the well off demand reliability. The build quality doesn't hit that mark

[@poosmate]

@@user-hd4vn4kf4n True. Forgot that bit.

[@nickrudd2568]

It would be a good idea to buy shares in Volvo now, before they rocket again.

[@a.m.9357]

I think Citroen's child DS will also go the same way as Polestar.

[@geoffhoward2171]

We might be able to add Porsche to the list.

[@sarahdisco-dolly1150]

My business provides a car lease scheme for employees via Arval, we are getting weekly emails desperate to get takers for Polestars, not likely.

[@MrRaitzi]

Polestar 1 was a sports car. It was a hybrid however and mega expensive

[@bentullett6068]

This is pretty worrying for Lotus cars as they to are owned by Geely and their EV SUV thing is pretty much a Polestar/Volvo with a different body.

[@davejohnson3474]

51% stake in Lotus makes sense as the battery factories in china next to or near the railway direct to europe

[@lawreence13]

Currently there's no current

[@markevans2280]

Range Rover Evoque pop up ad just appeared on this channel 😂, you couldn’t make it up could you

[@altern8tive]

The brand offshoot has been around for nearly 20 years with some desirable ICE models but their venture into EVs turned the product into manure.

[@agrubera75]

Imagine they pushed the EV crap for years and only 3-6% of the total cars on UK roads are EVs and the numbers are falling...

[@mattyb1624]

A poster tried to race me in my V8 M3 😂😂😂 what a joke. They're not sports cars.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

I saw that a dude in the US this morning declaring that his Polestar might welll become a modern day classic - all bc Polestar have dropped the custom option. Next they'll be dropping everything off the list...

[@Luddite1]

Maybe the pillock struggling to sell his car should have at least bought in from a manufacturer we’ve heard of 😂😂😂

[@user-hd4vn4kf4n]

You've reached celebrity status. Hat's been stolen

[@Paul-li9hq]

The best Pole Star is said to be Anastasia Skukhtorova - one of the world's top pole dancers, she was well-known for her abilities.

[@markchapman1757]

Because they've swamped the EV Market, but they can't sell them. All of our UK TV Ads are pushing EVs, however these manufacturers can't sell them. We, normal Joe Public can't afford to purchase an EV.

[@openminded3763]

Geoff, a couple of years ago I'm ashamed to say that all the EV hype nearly made me succumb and so thought I better look at something electric, Tesla were more than a bit crap in build quality and Polestar, being Volvo seemed a bit more interesting. But to quote Tony from EV Carnge. when I got up close it wasn't half as pretty as it looked wafting by across the road.😆 And inside so minimulist with seats straight out of my Grannies house, it made even the bland interior of Tesla look quite ostentatious and I came away resolved to sticking with ICE until there was no other choice. But what made me laugh outload and really annoy the saleman is that he was adamant that Polestar was the racing stable of Volvo and Polestar was to Volvo the equivelant of AMG is to Mercedes 🤣. I couldn't help myself saying, 'it may go like shit of a shovel in a straight line but have you had a look inside this and the inside of an AMG'. So perhaps Volvo really did see Polestar as their sports offering.

[@raymondwoods2304]

Have you noticed the new Tesla advert? It now has an app that plans your journey taking into account the resting places (charging). Sounds a great system but, as Elon Musk says, "no system is the best system". I agree! And that is why I drive an ICE car, I just think where I want to go and go. 😅😅😅