Volvo's NEW EM90 people mover (van) gets new CATL battery & 800km range

[@yggdrasil9039]

Volvo are smashing it. Can't wait for the EX30 to turn up downonder.

[@protagonist9716]

Geely is a super company. The portfolio of brands - Volvo, Zeekr, Lotus, SMART, Proton, Polestar, LTI and Galaxy brands, the only Chinese company to access the North American market!!! Lotus Emeya global debut in NYC last month!

[@rsplines12]

I think its smart for these Chinese companies to swallow up struggling western car brands. Western consumers have low confidence in the quality of goods from China plus their brand names are very odd to the western consumer. BYD should acquire the "Saturn" brand and sell their vehicles in US under that name.

[@hakonpettersen4140]

Well, it is Chinese..so not so great

[@meister-t]

I live in Canada, and fwd is so much better in winter (with an ice). Maybe 4wd, with a power-limiter on the front wheels, could be an answer for the high torque of electric motors. I don't know if you guys get much snow in AU, but in Canada, with a rwd, if there is snow on the ground, you turn your wheels and the car might just push forward anyways, not caring that the wheels are turned. With fwd, you don't have that problem. It's also much easier to get out of parking spots in the winter.

[@Tom-ef9yp]

Front wheel drive is fine in the ice, snow. The understeering is quite predictable. And usually, you have more traction having the weight (engine) where the driving wheels are. Especially with the older rear wheel drive cars, you were getting stuck in the snow, and the back end stepping out when icy. Modern electronics helps a bit. May be a totally differant game for electric. You have a lot of weight low, and an enormous amount of control over the traction.

[@patrickcorcoran4828]

I've owned only front wheel drive or all wheel drive cars and I barely notice a difference between the two configurations in snow and ice. Rear wheel drive ICE vehicles I've driven for work are bad in snow and I would be concerned about owning one where I live. I've heard from early adopters who got the BMW I3 and Tesla Model S RWD that the even weight distribution of the battery made a big difference in snow/ice performance. With 25 years of driving experience I'm sticking with front or all wheel drive, though I prefer front wheel drive because its more efficient.

[@peterinns5136]

Very little snow in Aus, apart from the high country in winter. Personally, from experience, I like AWD, It's great in the wet and on dirt roads.

[@Tom-ef9yp]

Yeah, I just mean you cannot really argue that front wheel drive with an engine in front is inferior in grip to a rear wheel drive in any general sense at least. Front wheel drive is quite safe, boring and cheap to make. Thus theres a lot of them. @@peterinns5136

[@Supersurfer12]

Finally EV mini vans! I am tired of EV announcements being subcompacts, sedans, or crossovers.

[@luisryf7359]

In case you did not KNOW. Those models are available from some time from Geely, as the LYNK&Co model and also from ZEEKR. Another geely brand, other brands in China sale the same product with minor or major tweaks..

[@gregking9888]

Yay volvo🎉

[@nerdbikes3841]

I expect Rivian to reveal a teaser minivan/work van Late 2024 or early 2025 as their Georgia factory nears production condition. Rivian is going to reveal their R2 smaller chassis next year and I think they will suprise everyone and also reveal a shrunken version of their Amazon delivery van and marketed to the minivan crowd and the work van market.

[@Sacto1654]

Despite what Volvo officially says currently, I expect the EM90 to make it to the US market withi a few years. Reason: we may see a plethora of EV minivans arriving by 2026-2027.

[@milescoleman910]

I drive Valet. The Ex30 is really quite something. Just the specs are impressive but I really think Volvo have cracked it and are gonna keep up. Interior is about the only thing I liked about their gas cars. There’s just something very right about their new electrics.

[@bobmorane4926]

Is there a little bit of the LEVC London cab in those models ?. Levc is the Geely subsidiary that took care of electrifying the London cab ...

[@MrGMawson2438]

Looks great

[@10secondsrule]

There you go. That’s new family suv in the coming years 😂

[@amjedali5164]

Amazing car yummie mummies from Sydneys north shore will buying these up. The big problem with larger SUV's is to get in and out of the 3rd row and the legroom is always rubbish. 3rd row for vans like the Taragos were always good. What generation of Taragos were front wheel drive? The 90s versions were RWD, with the same wheel stud parent as a 200sx S15. I would see so many of them with S15 wheels and P plates on them hooning around in the late 90s and early 2000s If it gets 600kms per charge for a van i think it is the sweet spot. In the low $100,000s it will sell well lets say $135k drive away.

[@passby8070]

Volvo is probably the best chance out of all legacy companies in transitioning to EV.

[@monkeysezbegood]

Sure. Because they got brought by a none legacy company.

[@yangliauchang272]

Volvo for sure, this company will survive...

[@vitolu6727]

Zeekr 009 is best Electric MPV in every category

[@phileasler5401]

I’ll keep my front wheel drive long range Ariya Venture +. Dual drive, less efficient, heavier,more $, more $ to repair. Unless you live in the snowbelt (thank goodness I don’t ), dual drive maybe the way to go

[@donaldduck5731]

Taxi heaven

[@scottstormcarter9603]

Front wheel drive all the way on the snow! Hmm are the EV batteries under the back seat the reason rear wheel drive works so well on EVs?

[@syedputra5955]

Wot happened to id buzz?

[@patrickcorcoran4828]

Local dealers are telling me they'll be in the US market in summer 2024. Not sure about the rest of the world.

[@dangeroustoman]

Still waiting to hear when you and uncle Tony are going to be live.

[@grkrrr]

Won't happen. He's a schill.

[@yankrizzuto6760]

Move on

[@grkrrr]

@@yankrizzuto6760 lol

[@cocoaiscool2709]

it’s literally a zeekr

[@maxs3153]

can't wait to see the Volvo van... really interesting. But as for the range... it seems to be too optimistic... The average consumption of EQV is about 30-35 kW ... if Volvo does this, we can talk about a maximum real range of 470-500 km... it's better than all other minivans but still not so good for a big family van…

[@jonathanfields4ever]

Why? Obviously charging is slower than filling up, but my in-laws have a Toyota hybrid minivan and it gets about 500km of range on a full tank. In the winter and summer it can be as bad as 350 or 400.

[@maxs3153]

@@jonathanfields4ever hybrid is absolutely another thing… my point is that big family car presume long journey (at least from time to time). And with current average consumption of 30-40kwt/100km full range is abt 400-450( km 140kwt battery with net capacity of abt 120kwt) . But if we take into consideration recommended usage of the battery 20-80% we’ll get 270km of range max…it is ok for small country…but still too faraway from ICE range abilities.

[@jonathanfields4ever]

@@maxs3153 No, what I’m saying is that it’s not far off of a gasoline-powered minivan. They’re not going huge distances.

[@maxs3153]

@@jonathanfields4ever i understood but… V classe can go 850km as well as Multivan…two times longer range😉 with no depending on charging stations. What i want to say in general… with every new car we ( ok, me 🙂) expect some kind of technological revolution… but there is not…bigger battery- heavier car- bigger consumption and same dependence on charging station…less freedom in comparison to ICE…😏

[@jonathanfields4ever]

@@maxs3153 Yeah… I’d rather have slightly longer road trips and get all the daily driving benefits of EV. Easy trade off

[@billyandmyboyzayn9128]

Showing your fear of Uncle Tony I see..😅

[@grkrrr]

Yes he is.

[@GWAForUTBE]

Damn I wish Tesla would produce a driver side rear slider in a van.

[@bwmanarific]

Oh shit a ev van does seem so good though, heavy af I bet but damn

[@simonpannett8810]

Looks like a Hearse?? Long but not tall so does not max loading space, Wonder who will use it??

[@davidmaxwaterman]

Turning circle?

[@krzysztofcwik5347]

If only this EM 90 were huge family friendly not just another vip lux car.

[@chilzone966]

It might just me, but why does it look like a hearse?

[@MrGMawson2438]

Hello mate

[@hakonpettersen4140]

It looks like an undertakers car 😂

[@j.4941]

With Kid #4 coming and having gotten used to the speed, power and ease of use of my Tesla MY, I am so very much looking for a car that can carry 6 without being a large bus with no performance, speed, range or all the other things we have got accustomed. I mean the choices that are available for a family of 6 are a JOKE right now: the Mercedes EQV doesn’t have a steering assistant. In 2023. I mean… no. Just NO. Not even talking about the laughable range and the dull GUI of the 90s… Literally my only option right now is the model X - just that it’s so very expensive. So I appreciate very much if there’s a bit competition, eben though I hatte the look of this Volvo: why do so many makers think it’s cool to drive something that looks like the front is cut with a knife?!? But again: more cars for 6 people! Please!

[@DavidWilliams-qk5jq]

Viking, for a future episode, please do one on all of the vehicle fires blamed on EV batteries, which may actually be caused by Spontaneous Human Combustion. Loads of folks sleep in their vehicles nowadays. This is very real people!

[@johnchin1456]

I sleep in my car all the time, usually after 12 pints, so yes ur right

[@DavidWilliams-qk5jq]

@@johnchin1456 Please install a smoke detector on the headliner of your car, and keep a fire extinguisher handy whenever you are stinking drunk. Always make it a practice to drink one pint of beer for every 4-shots of hard liquor, to lessen the %. Keep windows rolled up tightly to reduce oxygen level when sleeping or passed out. Put smoldering cigar butts out for safety. Seriously, I am not kidding people!

[@johnchin1456]

@@DavidWilliams-qk5jq I don't drink I was jesting, I heard of a guy trapped in his Tesla for 5 hours, had to phone his sis to get the spare key, is this common? God forbid to be in a burning car, unable to open the door

[@DavidWilliams-qk5jq]

@@johnchin1456 Spare key, LOL. You can unlock the car or roll down the windows with the phone app, but obviously you don't use a key from the inside. Doors can also be unlocked/opened from the inside manually in rare case of electrical issue. Fake story. Seriously, lay off the booze man.

[@noleftturns]

Yes - Americans want massive SUVs/vans to drive and Volvo and Kia are going to deliver just that and Elon keeps pumping out tiny 4-seaters at firesale prices good luck with that, Elon

[@marcsimmonds5483]

Yet people keep buying these "tiny" (?) cars.

[@francisdebriey3609]

I don't find it pretty... especially compared design wise with the ex30

[@EnmandsBand1]

that brick is not a thing of beauty!

[@ChiTsang]

豆腐渣工程

[@thyristo]

Regarding the Zeekr 009: you're trying to push western style preferences upon Asians. You can dislike it - but don't pretend that your opinion is universal.

[@avdp9095]

Ridiculous car, not a Volvo at all, only a Volvo badge...., 2800kg seriously?????? Will not be sold in Europe. Range is a lie, as you should know by now mr Viking!

[@johnhopkins4920]

Many thanks for your constructive criticism. Hope all is well, especially after your wife left you because of your attitude. Why don’t you take it out on the rest of your family, instead of polluting us with your negativity?

[@ChicagoBob123]

Front wheel drive is really awful for EV. Too much torque for it to feel good.

[@patrickcorcoran4828]

My dad has a front-wheel drive Chevy Bolt and it feels exactly like every front wheel drive car I've ever driven.

[@ChicagoBob123]

@@patrickcorcoran4828 i had a bolt and it lurches because of being pulled vs being pushed. Ice cars don't have instant acceleration like evs do. Putting the power to the rear wheels just feels better

[@senoow4215]

It is rwd

[@patrickcorcoran4828]

@@ChicagoBob123 I guess handling is subjective. My dad drove Ford Escorts, then Ford Focuses since the late 80s and notices no difference. Except for one Subaru I've only driven front wheel drive cars and currently drive a Prius C. I've never noticed a difference either.

[@CaryInVictoria]

The Zeekr cousin is the ugliest car in history? C'mon, for one, it doesn't hold a candle to the Pontiac Aztec.

[@tedchandran]

Jai Hinduja. CATL monopoly talks every time. Will the daughter of CATL founder be safe from the Loonie?

[@pauld3327]

It's ugly

[@johnchristopher20]

You know that only Land Rover is less reliable than Volvos, right?

[@olpkol]

страшненький.

[@flodjod]

the ldv 7 seater ev in nz costs 71 thousand nz dollars and here in aus 106 thousand aus dollars .. who is ripping the public off