Voodoo Dolls in Doom

[@agitation3465]

Imagine being a Demon and you see Doomguy corpse just sliding to the nearest medkit

[@notgettingthejokeonpurpose5412]

Just kill him before he can heal him self and unleash ultra hell again on hell

[@iane7474]

Bruh

[@doomguy5573]

Lmao 🤣

[@hrvojetonkovac4509]

Oh shiiii-

[@magosexploratoradeon6409]

@@YearsOVDecay1 Bruh chill.

[@xanrerkazuki9929]

Wait wait wait.. There is a doom calculator... So there might be a way to make computers in doom too? We should migrate all the redstone engineers to doom

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Someone call Mumbo Jumbo!

[@fuzzydunlop1753]

The loss in efficiency is easily outweighed by the increase in awesomeness.

[@lia6771]

can you run doom in a computer inside of doom

[@xanrerkazuki9929]

@@lia6771 If something exists, it can run doom. I call this the rule 666

[@rhaeven]

I don't think you could make logic gates, unfortunately

[@justsomeone6166]

Revenant: * checks body * "A quick study of the body reveals that the thug is still alive, and merely pretending to be dead."

[@buhbo3250]

I remember I decapitated a thug and it still had that text

[@bulldozer6781]

*_M E R E L Y P R E T E N D I N G_*

[@EFdee9]

Love fallout new vegas

[@Itsprincesweets]

Yare yare

[@rekius328]

Ah yes, new vegas... But the truth is.... The game was rigged from the start.

[@codenamechick5614]

This brings a whole new dimension to the "Why are you hitting yourself?" gag.

[@stomyed22]

FOR RESEARCH

[@NTAD]

Revenant sees through your paltry attempt at playing dead.

[@MS-xt8ue]

😂😂😂

[@hiramesensei3112]

*muffled DOOT in the distance*

[@FahmiZFX]

Only a skeleton knows what it's like to be dead to the bone.

[@FranceUSSRCountryball]

... rlly not exactly

[@robowisanveithasung6022]

Revenant: IMPOSTER HOW DARE YOU MOCK US?!!

[@raw_strife]

2:30 This could actually be an interesting concept for a map... Start at the end, walk back through the hordes as a dead guy, then pick up a health bonus or a megasphere and have to go back and complete the map. Takes away a lot of the element of surprise but if you have a map with a lot of traps it could still be entertaining and challenging. Not sure how you'd pull it off though

[@chainsawplayin]

Hell, you could even make a stealth map OR a map where you have 1 health point!

[@TheUKNutter]

Chris Robertson The megasphere has a blue keycard on top! Mario maker levels can give us so many influences.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Like the exit is in the room directly behind the blue door and the blue keycard is at the end?

[@TheUKNutter]

HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul Nope. Go to the end of the map, with the megasphere and blue keycard behind it (make it so you HAVE to grab both simultaneously). When the keycard is grabbed, the doors open to reveal the monsters. Really good idea

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

Maybe after the player crosses a certain linedef, an Archvile that doesn't count towards the kill% gets released into the arena.

[@JohnSWeekley]

"John is a zombieeeee!" Ah shit, here we go again...

[@DamoclesCommando]

Brings me back to the good ol' days...

[@medexamtoolscom]

@@DamoclesCommando And then you got oldered.

[@whatisfzeroanymore2nd]

>john >117 likes n i c e

[@RayTC]

Nyoro

[@WeirdVideoGames]

It's always surreal to be watching a video and have someone reference you out of nowhere.

[@MSB_Rich]

MY OWN CLONE! NOW NEITHER OF US WILL BE VIRGINS

[@BannoWanno]

Hold up

[@notgettingthejokeonpurpose5412]

Just don't get both of your selfs pregnaetantant

[@purplejinxer3478]

@@notgettingthejokeonpurpose5412 you mean pregananant?

[@notgettingthejokeonpurpose5412]

@@purplejinxer3478 you mean gregnant?

[@BenjamintYT]

@@notgettingthejokeonpurpose5412 *Can you burn a luigi board?*

[@Zwyrx_Hgqfyggz]

5:56 My BFG finger is itching

[@heavenlyhavens]

Lol

[@techizjerry6062]

My trigger finger is itching

[@Zwyrx_Hgqfyggz]

@@techizjerry6062 yeah but the BFG would empty that whole room

[@techizjerry6062]

@@Zwyrx_Hgqfyggz oh ok

[@GreaserMan]

Obscure PS1 Spider-Man memes?

[@davidchez513]

The thumbnail only makes me think ... Blood 100% Playthrough when?

[@decino]

KZbinr Dwars is destroying Blood 100% right now, worth checking out.

[@lovecraftcat]

There's only one dude on youtube cool enough to 100% blood on extra crispy, unfortunately I forgot his channel name.

[@danin900]

@@lovecraftcat BlooditeKrypto. He even did it "Deathmask style" meaning no saves, no deaths.

[@danin900]

Wonder why Decino dislikes the Build games.

[@decino]

Can't really explain why. Pretty much boils down to the feel of the physics.

[@Matzu-Music]

"Doomguy's soul will die, but the body will still be alive" That's actually kind of hardcore.

[@roiroije6326]

The Doom Slayer will never fall.

[@gavindillon1486]

@@roiroije6326 too angry to die

[@ChillPill365]

Me since 2020 lol

[@montikore]

Hella hardcore

[@Barakon]

Too angry to die too pure to become zombie man.

[@lonecolamarine]

Wow this sounds like a Twilight zone episode: "Here we see the subject of our current viewing. Flynn Taggart, aged 24 seemingly trapped hopelessly on mars, his only companion being an immobile braindead duplicate of himself, and a legion of bloodthirsty demons. Taggart alone is enough to best the hoard, However, due to having his soul split between these two uneven halves of himself for some unknown reason, if his mentally absent associate perishes, he will as well. This is a phenomenon the likes of which can only be explained in.... The Twilight Zone."

[@lonecolamarine]

@@dennisthemenace3695 Yeah, as someone only in his earliest 20's, Twilight Zone was decades ahead of its time. Didn't age too badly either!

[@lonecolamarine]

​@@dennisthemenace3695 Yeeeeahhh... Plus a big chunk of the episodes have a husband character that sounds two steps from being abusive lol Still a great show tho, I can't think retro tv without Twilight zone

[@ViddyOJames]

@@dennisthemenace3695 nowadays we let insane people run freely unmedicated in the streets, and give them important jobs and let them destroy the country. Much better now.

[@daxx-8014]

The part where you "die" but still alive is a good one, you can make stealth maps with this; like a place full of demons and a lot of health around so if you picked up one you're basically dead you would have to maneuver around and do things slowly

[@ahabduennschitz7670]

no one likes god damn stealth maps in a fps game

[@tylerlackey1175]

@@ahabduennschitz7670 just like your last name your opinion is schit

[@ahabduennschitz7670]

@@tylerlackey1175 Because schit is totally a word. Thanks for your input, Einstein

[@ghost.8836]

@@ahabduennschitz7670 The Doom engine is not only usable on FPS.

[@roiroije6326]

There's always that one guy who hates fun and creativity.

[@watchmakerful]

Seven years ago I made a counter (from 0 to 50) on a large map with many rooms and tricky questions in them. In the final room there is a digital indicator that displays the number of correct answers. This counter uses two conveyors woth voodoo dolls, each controlling one decimal digit.

[@decino]

Brilliant!

[@Patriot1776]

You still got that map? Ever upload it?

[@val4128]

yearly question= Have you uploaded it?

[@DryPaperHammerBro]

You upload it?

[@poollovernathan]

Have you uploaded it?

[@BigMacDavis]

I've ALWAYS wondered why you can walk in a certain spot and get weapons out of thin air, like in Baron's Den in Plutonia under the skull cube. A 20 year mystery solved, thanks to decino.

[@stefanm.734]

So, has anyone made a WAD where, if you die, you turn into a "zombie" rather than lose? I feel like that would be a really interesting mechanic to play around with.

[@thomasvleminckx]

Prey 2005.

[@lev7509]

Well, uh... for starters, that would mean that for the rest of the map (or until any of the bodies dies and the player can reload) you can't use weapons. At all. That *might* be fine however if you find some way of entertaining the player besides combat. Also, remember, in order for the zombie glitch to occur, damage is spread between multiple bodies so none of them die but your HP is 0. Meaning you have to damage a voodoo doll off-screen with a barrel first and make sure that the player picks up *no* health. Then, when the player takes enough damage, they zombify.

[@lev7509]

Also, only monsters that haven't yet seen you will ignore you. If a monster already saw you when you were still completely alive, they will not ignore you zombified.

[@TheBreakingBenny]

There's also the fact that you can use level transitions while dead unless a compatibility feature is enabled.

[@eduardojose981]

@@TheBreakingBenny the final level for a wad, the history could be that doomguy kinda dies but his willpower and rage alone, make it so his dead corpse becomes a zombie to finish the mission

[@MikeArtist93]

3:03 that bloody smile was awesome

[@odstagent1070]

3:00 Me trying to get a midnight snack The demons under my bed, wardrobe and outside the window:

[@zalk256]

Oh hi ODST Agent... For the millionth time.

[@KamiJoJo]

DOOM: Marines Die Twice

[@thereallystoopidguy1449]

i remember making my first map on doom builder and accidentally add a second player 1 spawn and i didn't know how to delete things so i just dragged it out of bounds so i tested the map and spawned out of bounds

[@darrenaqilawangsech8652]

lmao 😂

[@-ds3k-522]

5:52 me and my classmates waiting for the results of our tests.

[@dustbites3557]

More like, me and my homies waiting for the test result of That Smartass who claimed he messed up this time:

[@lishd]

I LOVE WHEN YOU DO VIDEOS LIKE THIS. i'm not a coder, but i'm good at following along, & these videos are like those "how magicians perform their tricks" tv specials. X)

[@Ravenpaw1313]

Yeah that is pretty much my reaction exactly. It's super fascinating and gives us a window into how these things work!!!

[@sebastianschweigert7117]

I mean, this video is explaining a bug. So it's really more like "famous magicians making mistakes."

[@sh-bf7bv]

@@sebastianschweigert7117 So, is magic real then?

[@makhauser42]

Damn, they are more useful than I thought. Need to try that zombierun out

[@HueyTheDoctor]

I love these analysis videos, what makes them so compelling is that you're obviously just satisfying your own curiosity and then reporting to us the fascinating results of your own passionate enthusiasm. That sort of thing is powerful content.

[@demogorgonzola]

It's an interesting and quirky mechanic. :) I remember a wad "Hell on Earth Super Tiny Edition" that recreates Doom II limiting player movement to a 64x64 square while allowing larger outside geometry with monsters and items uses voodoo dolls to kind of circumvent limits and facilitate player grabbing keys and items or reaching exit teleporter outside of the movable area.

[@decino]

Clever!

[@Arcrinato]

Love how you actually take a look at the code and also give a ton of use cases for it! Someone else could have easily made a click-baity vid like "THIS ONE HIDDEN FEATURE IN DOOM" and not give any actual information.

[@Dwars]

Zombie Doomguy reminds me of what happens when you die in that doom: pack II source port. The Blood sprite thumbnail is great too, but it also makes me want to stab the Doomguy voodoo doll in the nuts, just like in that game.

[@Dwars]

@@Iliek I'm a nerd.

[@AstorEzequiel]

@@Iliek I like how that question is completely unrelated to the original comment xD

[@demogorgonzola]

@Dwars ``stab the Doomguy voodoo doll in the nuts`` - Favorite Mortal Kombat character: Johnny Cage? :)

[@screamsinrussian5773]

@@Dwars that didn't answer the question though

[@usagijojo]

goodmaki It's alright to be a furry.

[@rasput1n6]

*4:42** Doom Redstone*

[@presleyfisher8040]

You could have called it “VoDoom” doll but you didn’t and I mad

[@jamesduncan6729]

Well... shit

[@ericgrimes341]

That’s funny!

[@Gemidori]

Voodoom.

[@AnnoyingBastsardonSteam]

That rolls off the tounge and is a misleading title

[@buggy730]

umad?

[@LostElsen]

3:03 when you come back from clinical death by drinking some water Honestly though, you had to mod it. I don't remember doomguy smiling from health items.

[@decino]

He doesn't, and it's not a mod. It's a status bar face glitch that has to do with the hierarchy the engine uses to choose the face graphic. I'm planning to make a video about the status bar face soon.

[@LostElsen]

@@decino It's unbelievable how appropriate it is for such random bug in such obscure and specific situation.. Can't wait for your next video!

[@ankui6031]

I remember when I played Doom on phone, whenever I closed and then opened the app again the Doomguy always smiled at the first thing picked up, be it an item or a weapon, while on PC he's never done such a thing, strange

[@ThomasMink]

He does that for me when playing Chocolate Doom. If I load a save, he'll grin at the first item picked up. Don't even have to close the game out. ..so I'm pretty sure vanilla was the same.

[@lovecraftcat]

You won't see the save/load doomed fellow face glitch in many of Despacito's videos, except for that stream

[@thedispencerman4488]

5:52 This is what demon's nightmares are made of.

[@mastergame1311]

Hell yeah, another yellow video. I love when map makers (and game developers in general) make this complex Rude Golberg-like machines in order to create very simple contraptions (such as timers). It is so entertaining to know said mechanism from the backstage.

[@TheGlowingBeansGuy]

Player: Youre weak The immobile clones: Im you

[@TheWaynelds]

Imp: My mom thinks you’re sexy CyberDemon: I want to learn to build houses for my birthday.

[@MondySpartan]

The only thing I fear is myself.

[@ehrae]

3:04 when he picked up that health potion and came back to life it really pissed me of

[@Novous]

Imagine a deathmatch game mode where you didn't have to shoot enemy players, but their moving voodoo dolls.

[@samedwards3285]

3:02 the face on the bottom is hilarious *_"I'M ALIVE FOOLS"_*

[@mysteriousstranger2287]

1:21 That BFG ball flying into voodoo doll creates tension that will stay with me for the day! Huge thanks for this vid. I've known the effects for a long time, but not how they're caused on a technical level.

[@flergindergin]

So THATS how Eviternity was able to have multi switch doors.

[@catascopic9542]

Was that really how? I just assumed it was part of the more advanced features like ice physics and scripted teleports

[@catascopic9542]

Now that I think about it, I remember looking at the Doom Wiki and noticing every Eviternity level had lots of voodoo dolls.

[@eliteguard225]

The Boom engine allows a lot of stuff. It's still very advanced and highly used, 22 years after its release.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Going Down is another mapset which makes very extensive use out of VooDoo "Scripting"

[@LudicusMaximus]

God, Doom's code is so beautiful.

[@WeirdVideoGames]

Hey decino, I'm the guy who wrote that Doom fanfic. Just watching various Doom videos, not expecting "and then John was a Zombie" out of nowhere. Your videos are awesome!

[@lhfirex]

We might see non-gimmick voodoo dolls in Doom whenever Bloom gets more updates.

[@SaladofStones]

I know going down uses voodoo dolls extensively for scripting.

[@terrytrollface]

Amazing video as always. And God DAMN does Stuart Ryan make good music.

[@packle-tackle1906]

6:16 Poor doom guy HE DOESNT DESERVE IT AFTER SAVING EARTH FROM HELL

[@uncetic7059]

I always did want to know more about voodoo dolls, and more examples of their usefulness Thanks again funny decino man

[@duckmaneuvers]

Missed opportunity to call them "Vo-doom dolls"

[@NightlifeSux]

I clicked this video expecting to find my most hated Scythe level in it and you did not disappoint.

[@tobiyoarcangel]

That map can be pretty jarring, yeah, but compared to other stuff Scythe throws at you in that episode, or most of Scythe 2...I kinda forget about that map in particular

[@blurem1490]

oh damn that map... i was REALLY confused and didnt know why i die after a certain time, had to watch a playthrough

[@tobiyoarcangel]

Yeah, fortunately I gave myself an I idea of what "RUN" (the level's name) was supposed to mean. Even though I played it using jumping and dashing (yes, I play with Project Brutality, please don't hate on me), it was pretty tense.

[@blurem1490]

@@tobiyoarcangel *hates* just kidding. anyways, i was playing with chocolate doom and because of the low resolution i didnt manage to notice "RUN" in the start, thats why i was raging because of confusing

[@tobiyoarcangel]

Yeah. That difficulty spike in the first Scythe was brutal.

[@DarkSnake78990]

2:29 so basically that's me: My soul die but my body is still alive and kicking, wouhou?

[@fuzzydunlop1753]

Awesome stuff, I love seeing the levels of creativity that can be reached when you get to know a system so well that you start to think of new ways to use established features, very cool!

[@furorteutonicus9045]

I like it when he says "Pinkies" with his russian accent.

[@armoredmilkman3288]

@Adam Demeter Jean-Claude Van Doom

[@thomasvleminckx]

@@armoredmilkman3288 Jean-Claude is Belgian, not Dutch. And he speaks French, not Dutch.

[@tutituti4344]

6:23 "This list is getting long" Oh my sweet summer child

[@ThembyGoblin132]

4:42 "You can even make a calculator" Jesus Christ, now some schmuck is gonna make Doom run Doom with voodoo dolls

[@themaidenlesswretch7819]

Running doom on doom, hmm

[@themaidenlesswretch7819]

Eternal tried it

[@ipaqmaster]

Revisiting an old one but glad to see it has 1mil views holy shit! Love your work man, these videos are always worth coming back to just for the edutainment value.

[@noahleveille366]

I’m a simple man. I see a yellow background, and I click ❤️

[@t0xcn253]

I love you man, it's just so badass to see the things you are able to establish and your methods of learning them. Keep up the fantastic work my friend!

[@nowaywithyoueveragai]

3:03 the most sadist smile DooM guy has and ever will make. With some editor tool I discovered this voodoo doll thing and tried some many where you would have literally a countdown (an imp roasting the doll) to end the level. Well it went no where but can't recall if it was because of the concept or because of the always dying map after trying to add some platforms. 3:52 genius. 4:12 genius.

[@novackh2864]

Love all your videos pal. Loved doom since a child and its great to see you keeping the game alive with all this amazing content. Easily my favourite youtuber. All the best to you

[@2chrono2]

Seeing the thumbnail, I'm not gonna lie, I thought this was going to be some weird explanation of how the voodoo doll in blood works, and then showing some crazy hackery to recreate it in vanilla doom. This ended up being way cooler. I had no idea these existed.

[@DavidXNewton]

You explain the code very well - interesting to see where these odd effects we’ve learned to build maps around come from :)

[@TAiiNE]

Huh neat. I always thought these dolls were a boom thing. I may have to look into my own ways to use these.. I'm already using mods in hidden sectors to create 'sound effects' that has a crushing ceiling to kill them for you after a while. It's made for some fun moments and foreshadowing. You hear an archvile but never see it.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@Agent 005 [cries in Arch-Violence]

[@viktor4907]

That was very insightful. I've seen these playermodels in so many Mods but never paid much attention to them. I legit had no idea how much interesting things you can do with them.

[@thecoton6152]

3:01 This has meme potential. health bonus : my hopes for a successful life Cyberdemons : Reality

[@Chibi1986]

Every time I think IDTech1 has no more tricks, someone finds something new and fun to do with it.

[@Smokecall]

2:31 never seen player health being lower than a voodoo doll used in any maps but incredible demonstration of the effects.

[@darrenaqilawangsech8652]

Most likely it can be used as a stealth map.

[@Snottle1]

This game is so much more fascinating than I ever imagined. Thanks for making these informative and fun videos Decino!

[@annhentaiuser6658]

3:01 when you took the last pizza and your friends saw you.

[@aurorathepuppymoth]

When you mentioned the 8-bit addition calculator, I had to do a double take. I love shit like that in games.

[@Superlagg]

5:48 No discussion of weird stuff in Doom would be complete without a trip to Mock II.

[@Cyriu]

Look at that, I was happily slaughtering demons and trying to survive the insanity that is Final DOOM for years now, and little did I know that there was lifeless puppet of myself somewhere in the current plane of existence.

[@MohamedAshraf-eh5ml]

Every time I watch an analytic video I learn a lot about doom, thank you Decino 🙏🙏🙏

[@BorisAnatolievich]

A revenant punches living body of a doomguy while his soul was separated by killing a voodoo doll. It is cruel even for doom

[@mrred6969]

2:59 Doomguy: *breaths*. Cyberdemons: *N o*

[@JOELwindows7]

This is your daily dose of Recommendation Bonded clones

[@gadielgonzalez2755]

Just when I think I know all people like decino remind me how much knowledge there is left to search.

[@jettlag9621]

1:23 Top 10 pictures taken moments before disaster

[@Viperust]

[@PU7MZD]

The body/soul analogy to explain pointers was amazing. Thank you very much for another great analysis video!

[@MrJohnReviews]

Interesting video, with a voodoo doll body we can make Kaizo-Style doom levels where it involves protecting or avoiding the voodoos dolls

[@mariannmariann2052]

Doom -Tower- Gun Defense

[@ChrisHinners008]

3:38 “You essentially telefrag yourself, and die.”

[@valkarion9]

4:54 so... is doom turing complete?

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

If a Voodoo doll dies, but the player had more health than 100, the player enters a sleep paralisis. (one being aware, but unable to move)

[@TheHairyFist]

Patron: "Chris O'Neil" OneyNG???

[@decino]

Nop. Different guy.

[@TheHairyFist]

@@decino Dang 😔 What a flex that would be.

[@HangCastleZone]

I just... really like the way you talk c:, I’m glad I found your channel!

[@Zombiefin_]

0:34 The Hell Knight is case 69. Nice!

[@decino]

Nice.

[@tronicgo8873]

@@decino Nice

[@Ultrad321]

You're doing God's work with these Doom videos buddy. Keep it up. Subbed

[@evan5873]

5:35 the army of doomguys

[@evan5873]

i messed it up its at 5:49

[@timonatt]

Wow, one of the most interesting videos so far. I love stuff like this!

[@Vitz_atelier]

I'm yet to try voodoo dolls in any project. Might take a while for me to test this though. I need to get a better grasp of mapping in general first.

[@AgentMidnight]

Gotta say, the pannenkoek-style coding-explanation vids are your strongest content. Keep up the good work!

[@colonthree]

[SPOILER ALERT] Maybe the creator of Repercussions of Evil knew about this when he turned John into a zombie...? :3c

[@decino]

The guy's an underappreciated genius.

[@belladonnaplumb9376]

3:04 That's the scariest, most epic Doomguy face I've ever seem

[@halvtysk]

Cool effect with the zombie doom mechanic, has this been used in any real map? Regardless, fun to see how a programming error can generate gameplay functionality. Awesome video as always!

[@decino]

Only in gimmick maps as far as I know.

[@AngelloProduct]

Mattias Zippert Deus Vault 2

[@SaladofStones]

Going down

[@harbingerdawn]

I love these deep dives into Doom's mechanics. The first video of yours I saw was the one about Doom's RNG, made me an instant fan :D

[@MaximG.]

1:55 - Wait, so voodoo doll can give you items by picking them up, but not vice versa?

[@decino]

Yeap.

[@000adrianelpiola000]

You make good videos man. I cannot find videos like these in spanish because the most common type of videos is the overexhagerated (exagerado) hype, bad acting of hype and a 1/3 size face cam. This is the reason why i start to watch videos in english.

[@decino]

I don't think that's only limited to Spanish-speaking KZbinrs.

[@federicobinaghi8118]

3:58 Pharaohs were right all along...

[@bauul.]

Very nice video! I've used Voodoo Dolls plenty but never really understood the game code behind them, thanks for going into the details! I've heard Voodoo Doll conveyor belt systems be described as almost a visual coding language, and it's a pretty accurate description.

[@LinkZeraus]

I love the Ancient Aliens soundtrack

[@CsubAzUrmedve]

So I can play Doom Calculator on an actual calculator. Neat.

[@TheLetterJ0]

So what happens if you kill a voodoo doll while you're invulnerable? And will monsters attempt to kill voodoo dolls if they see them?

[@decino]

Voodoo dolls will also be invulnerable. Monsters ignore voodoo dolls.

[@thomassynths]

@@decino Do invulnerable characters get knocked back by barrels? If so, I smell a potential solution to the vanilla doom "conveyor".

[@decino]

They get knocked back when invulnerable, yes.

[@Voidic]

2:57 Oh man that would be a good stealth section

[@XtReMz98]

The more you know, with Decino.... or his clone...!