VW / Audi 1.8t 20v 5-600HP Engine build On a Budget

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Budget Outlaws

Budget Outlaws

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References -
forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...
performancebyie.com/blogs/ie-...
www.audizine.com/forum/showth...
Engines -
Early vs Late -
058 - Early
20mm wrist pins on pistons,
Large port head/intake manifold - Good for big turbos and 500+HP setups
Has Oil pump shaft
06A - Late
19MM wrist pins
Small port head/intake -
BLOCK
closed deck vs
1000-1200chp
Rods -
Factory rods - 350-400ctq
torque spike dependent
Small spikey turbo vs large turbo
NOTE: If you have 058 engine with the oil pump shaft gear will interfere with H beam rods.
Need clearancing on gear balance shaft.
Maxspeedingrods $275
Eagle rods - $375
Scat rods $395
IE Rods - $475
700HP
IE Tuscan Rods - $685
+1000hp
Bearings
OE bearings are good for about 8200rpm and 600chp.
Coated bearings can help premature wear if the car sees a lot of track use with sustained G loads.
Standard OE Style - $110
034 coated $85+$135
IE "Race" style (I suspect these are 034's with markup)- $95+$175
Valves
Intake valves - Stainless from factory
Upgrade only when increasing valve size.
1000hp
Exhaust valves -
Sodium filled - Heat and miles
Replace when you can
400CHP if you have to put a number at it.
Ferrea Iconel valves - $265
Supertech nitrite coated Stainless - $165
Valvesprings and retainers
Not a HP issue, rather a RPM issue.
Stock springs will float ~ 7800
Dont go over 7500 for safety.
Supertech - $505
IE Springs - $650
Ferrea - $900
Lifters
Float mid 9k's so not an issue for us mere mortals
Flat tappet - Replace when replacing cams with OEM new as the cams need to wear in with the lifters
Headgasket
OE -style Good for 600hp
$25 Elring brand is a good gasket.
$95 Or Audi branded.
Headbolts
OE bolts are one time stretch bolts. Good for 5-600HP.
OE Bolts - $20 Febi
ARP - $145 - Threaded nut is considerably more
Pistons
OE 19MM - 550HP under low heat loads.
Longevity is concern.
OE 20mm ~600hp
Change pistons if block issues causing overbore. Or if power is over 500HP on regular/sustained use.
Wiseco stroker/big bore 83mm - $650
IE Race spec w/ coated pistons - $1200
Crank
OE crank good for 1000hp
Use stroker 2.0 FSI or AEG crank w/ 20mm rods
Crank Pulley dampner
8k RPMS and 500hp
Excess vibrations cause premature wear.
FLuidamper
Balance engine
Fluidamper - $385
Balance engine - $200
Timing equipment
Over 8k or high loads, change to manual tensioner
Factory tensioner not great.
Manual kit from IE - $150
Pistons
performancebyie.com/products/...
performancebyie.com/products/...
Rods
www.maxpeedingrods.com/produc...
store.034motorsport.com/rod-s...
Bearings
store.034motorsport.com/main-...
store.034motorsport.com/rod-b...
Valvesprings
store.034motorsport.com/valve...
performancebyie.com/search?ty...
Valves
performancebyie.com/products/...
performancebyie.com/products/...
Timing Belt Tensioner - Manual 058
performancebyie.com/products/...
Timing Belt Tensioner - 06A
performancebyie.com/products/...
Fluidamper - 06A
performancebyie.com/products/...
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:26 Blocks
2:08 Rods
5:57 Bearings
7:27 Crankshaft
8:55 Pistons
11:36 Valves
13:27 Valvesprings
14:16 Lifters
15:04 Headgasket
15:31 Headbolts
16:42 Timing Tensioner
17:12 HP Gains
23:12 Final Thoughts

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@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 4 жыл бұрын
CLARIFICATIONS!! READ THIS AFTER WATCHING! First off thanks for watching guys! With something like this its easy to overgeneralize, forget something, or get details wrong. 1. First part of the video about 06A vs 058 being large/small port with 19/20mm pins was a massive over-generalization. Link below for actual facts on the 43 different engine codes for the 1.8T. Please do your research on what your engine is. www.bar-tek-tuning.com/1.8t-engine-codes 2. The crank gear needs to be dealt with at these power levels. Best option is a billet crank gear ($200)that is press fit on. Dowel Pinning is another but it has been known to fail. 3. ?? Please comment and let me know what I missed! Lets keep this up to date!! Thanks guys!
@beefysghost867
@beefysghost867 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot boostline rods
@ramzyhicham6419
@ramzyhicham6419 3 жыл бұрын
Upgrade the oilpump and oil to 10w60
@Chris6068
@Chris6068 3 жыл бұрын
LPSfab makes an amazing manual timing tensioner kit, I've got it installed on both my B6 and my GF's B6.
@GetBruno
@GetBruno 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such good information :))
@angellajara7510
@angellajara7510 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings, thank you for the video, very good. I have a 2004 jetta mk4 1.8. Would you please tell me, wich is the audy cylinder head compatible with this jetta, greatly improving performance of the same, thanks.
@Nothy
@Nothy 3 жыл бұрын
I heard that the 1.8T is a very strong engine for tuning from the factory, but I never really realized how over-engineered it is. It's bonkers and makes me respect my 1.8T so much more.
@MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP
@MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP 3 жыл бұрын
Stock will take 300 bhp
@ahmadalbab5448
@ahmadalbab5448 3 жыл бұрын
@@MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP Stock?1.8t 20v????
@MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP
@MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadalbab5448 hell yes stock its the rods that R the week point on them
@zedgerton73
@zedgerton73 3 жыл бұрын
@@MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP it will take 300 ft-lb*** anything after that your risking your rods a 300 ftlb 1.8 makes like 260-270hp ish.
@zedgerton73
@zedgerton73 3 жыл бұрын
Slap bolt ons and a unitronic tune and it’ll be a really fun car! The 1.8t builds power good and they sound nice . I’ve flogged my awp 1.8t out for 15 miles straight at over 150 mph screaming and it loved it. Exhaust mani got so hot some turbo to manifold bolts actually backed out. Turbo wasn’t mad either (f21 kit) held 22 psi the whole way😂😂
@PressureEd
@PressureEd 3 жыл бұрын
Big love man, thanks for making this. There's is not enough 1.8t content on KZbin
@TheNebuniciul
@TheNebuniciul 3 жыл бұрын
it is content , Boba Motoring from Germany that make 1200 hp use alot this motor 1.8 T :D check it
@jordancroukamp8030
@jordancroukamp8030 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheNebuniciul where can I find the info? Thought he only did 16v’s
@TheNebuniciul
@TheNebuniciul 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordancroukamp8030 I remember wrong, he do only 2.0 Liter I think, The 1.8 i think others tuners tune it until 1000hp +, in America i think i must search again that video
@krzaczekwegorz1135
@krzaczekwegorz1135 3 жыл бұрын
Agree👍🤝
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheNebuniciul Boba Motoring builds use the 2.0L 16V ABF motor.
@josephdillinger5538
@josephdillinger5538 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched this video probably 10 times it’s a great explanation for anyone who wants to build a 1.8t
@tommylyeah
@tommylyeah 4 жыл бұрын
I don't even work with VWs, I just like listening to tech talk like this- might learn something applicable to any other setup.
@davidrobbo27
@davidrobbo27 3 жыл бұрын
Same here I had no reason to watch this though I'm glad I did, subscribed straight away. Great info very well presented!
@alekdamyanov375
@alekdamyanov375 3 жыл бұрын
yeah I'd say about 80% of this info applies to almost all 4 cylinder turbo engines, import and domestic. Of course the power levels each component will be able to handle will differ and there are some additional parts needed depending on the motor.
@deanbrevis8163
@deanbrevis8163 2 жыл бұрын
This is about the 4th time I've watched this. Need some vr6 and r32 content now if you haven't already.
@sonoutlawuk
@sonoutlawuk 3 жыл бұрын
This vid comes at the right time, now i have a guideline to mod my 1.8t. thanks!!
@benm12310
@benm12310 3 жыл бұрын
hope it turns out well, I love my AEB gtx30 setup very much!
@dujuanjohnson5025
@dujuanjohnson5025 3 жыл бұрын
@@benm12310 do you have stock displacement? or stroked? thanks
@xxxscimitarxxx
@xxxscimitarxxx 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2001 TT 180bhp car on the strength of this guy’s knowledge…. Looking forward to making a 350 bhp car out of it
@Paralaxin
@Paralaxin Ай бұрын
How’d it go
@a4fuelpump
@a4fuelpump 3 жыл бұрын
Wiseco also has Boostline rods available for the 1.8t rated for 1000hp
@yaboi7485
@yaboi7485 3 жыл бұрын
Finally the video I was looking for thank you!
@swype.media-9309
@swype.media-9309 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most informational video about an engine with numbers to back it that I’ve ever seen. Great video man!
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@dariusgriffin3627
@dariusgriffin3627 3 ай бұрын
I just got a MK4 1.8t. I’m so excited about tuning it . Going to start from foundation
@doubledook799
@doubledook799 3 жыл бұрын
just picked up a Passat and learning all the fun i can have
@Oskariii
@Oskariii Жыл бұрын
Watching this video about a year ago made me want a 1.8t. Now I'm rewatching with plans to upgrade my a4b5. Thanks!
@matiasrosell5498
@matiasrosell5498 3 жыл бұрын
Just want to say thank you!! And I’ve been working on a few motors for about 2 years on my Audi TT Quattro 2001. I’ve went insanely in-depth with everything I learned and seeing this now I’m happy that someone is clarifying this all now. I bored and stroked my motor to roughly a 2.1/2 L and I make 700hp reliably with everything else. I want to try everything you have said on my next motor and see how they compare and I can improve on all your information. I hope you wouldn’t be troubled if there was a way I could contact you for more in-depth information. I’d love to push these motors to there limits. They have been a blast working on!!
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
Probably best to message me through the Facebook Budget Outlaws page. It's not active at all but it goes directly to our messages. I'm by no means a end all be all for these motors, but I do have some contacts that have helped me develop this list that have immense knowledge. My goal here as I mentioned in the video was to put down in a simple to understand format what the current understanding is for these motors and how to hold the power. I would LOVE to hear the details on your motor and the trials and tribulations you've had and will have in the figure on it. Thank you!
@TheSapShop
@TheSapShop 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 1.8t motor to rebuild. this video helped a lot thank you
@50french23
@50french23 3 жыл бұрын
Calm, collected and well thought out thank you
@ziddywerks
@ziddywerks 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I am in the process of a similar build using a 06A block with a AEB head and lots of other goodies. I think the video is very informative but a press for crank gear is a must, also using ekagrip diamond shims and arp bolts throughout is a must also ARP bolts for the mains is a good idea. Adjustable cam gear is a good idea as well as swapping AMB cam chain tensioner and trigger wheel to use in a AEB head will help with boost and NA cams with some overlap will help as well. Lots of NA 1.8 cams available out there ADR has 2 different versions. ADR are known to have the most lift. I personally got APT cams as I couldn’t find ADRs with the lift I wanted. Ceramic coated AEB pistons will do the job.
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 4 жыл бұрын
Love the insight!! Thanks for all the helpful tips!
@Moto_Medics
@Moto_Medics 3 жыл бұрын
ive got one of these but have no plans on doing any of this. Point being youve got yourself a sub due to the amazing presentation, i wish this info was as well explained for other platforms/ when i was just starting out!
@britishbatman8598
@britishbatman8598 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very helpful video to all 1.8t owners 😎👍🏽
@rc.attucks
@rc.attucks Ай бұрын
Excellent breakdown. Easy to understand the steps needed to reach your HP goal.
@TheAngelaxelbmx
@TheAngelaxelbmx 3 жыл бұрын
This has to be the best video explanation for the 1.8T who wants more horsepower, I'm tired of asking and asking for info but here I'm clear, thank you so much!!!
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
That was pretty much the point of this video series. So everyone can get a clear and to the point understanding on what to do to make and hold power. Be sure to check out the next video in the series about fuel injection.
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6bLaJ2latWSatE
@TheAngelaxelbmx
@TheAngelaxelbmx 3 жыл бұрын
@@budgetoutlaws9978 there's a Email or any private way to contact you for extra support?
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
Best way is probably through the Facebook page. Send us a message through that and it will come directly to us. If you don't use messenger then our email BudgetOutlaws@pacbell.net.
@sursomsatan1225
@sursomsatan1225 Жыл бұрын
I really like this format, been here a few times already, huge help
@malcolmadams2105
@malcolmadams2105 Жыл бұрын
I must say I only barely got one and I am amazed how cool this “little” motor is. Crazy power here I come!”
@kx250braap
@kx250braap 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love these engine they rev to the moon make great torque stock and just sound cool with a cat back
@richardevans3951
@richardevans3951 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That’s an awesome amount of info for someone in the planning process of tuning on a budget, which I am. I’ll have to research some parts with your info, and make a shopping list. Top man!
@hendrikhanso
@hendrikhanso 2 жыл бұрын
Very good introduction to 1.8t life. I like that you compared all the different options etc.
@honoraxis7457
@honoraxis7457 3 жыл бұрын
Somewhat recently bought a B5 A4 1.8t and theres a couple of things ive been wanting to do but wasnt able to find any good forum posts explaining which was best for my application. This definitely helped. I have a Garret GT2871 turbo and the car revs to 8100 RPM so I was trying to find a good set of valve springs but was having trouble finding reviews. Appreciate the video im probably gonna come back to it many many times to see what I want next
@georgecollins2347
@georgecollins2347 2 жыл бұрын
Is that on stock rods? What power? Thanks
@honoraxis7457
@honoraxis7457 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgecollins2347 No longer have the car but it was forged rods (Not sure what brand) and made around 350whp on 18psi. Couldve turned it up more I just didnt trust the rods cause I didnt know the brand
@dujuanjohnson5025
@dujuanjohnson5025 2 жыл бұрын
Best 1.8t video hands down!!!!!!!!! I love my 1.8t ❤️
@20vtechnik
@20vtechnik Жыл бұрын
I’m an in-line 5 guy but this fella knows his stuff. Thanks for sharing!
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 Жыл бұрын
About to be an in-line 5 guy myself ;)
@20vtechnik
@20vtechnik Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably the 5 time I’ve watched this video over the past year. Thanks for your great content. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀🍀🍀😎
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@olibrewster3232
@olibrewster3232 4 жыл бұрын
Also billet crank gear and kevlar timing belt. Its not part of the motors but if you want to reach the 500 mark on a budget then run water methanol.
@bryantstock4591
@bryantstock4591 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who speaks the truth about 1.8ts on the internet again. I would recommend some cat cams for your setup. I'm running the supertech valvetrain with the cat cams and it was the best mod ever. Paired it up with a M factory LSD at the same time and the car completely changed! Keep up the great vids my dude! -A fellow 1.8t loving ginger
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
That is the next mod that the car will see for sure. Plus a dual port wastegate actuator that's sitting in a box right now. We've got an event this weekend and then both the 1.8 and the 5.7 are going to be getting significantly more power.
@bryantstock4591
@bryantstock4591 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! You’ll be so happy with the cams!
@PapiChulo-jp3kz
@PapiChulo-jp3kz Жыл бұрын
Great video, I’m only aiming for about 300-350 horsepower in my 1.8t so it’s nice to see not much is really necessary
@tomhofland9351
@tomhofland9351 6 ай бұрын
Did you get the 300hp??
@DYLZY
@DYLZY 6 ай бұрын
?
@socaljr9526
@socaljr9526 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad KZbin recommended this video, because I am installing a turbo on my 07k motor. And I am planning on building the motor as well to handle the additional power.
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
Same basic motor with an extra cylinder. Be sure to check out @"Boost Brothers Garage", Mike has some great info on the 07k.
@socaljr9526
@socaljr9526 3 жыл бұрын
@@budgetoutlaws9978 yeah exactly thanks for the detailed video! I have already purchased my turbo manifold from them for my 07k build🤙🏽
@615hjp3
@615hjp3 Жыл бұрын
Just got my hands on a 1.8t 225 can’t wait to build it
@gearheadadrenalinedean2214
@gearheadadrenalinedean2214 7 ай бұрын
I've loved japanese engines of all kinds especially the Honda engines d,h,b,k series. After buying my 02 golf GTI 1.8t and had sooooo many aftermarket parts and upgrades on it plus a apr tune stage 3. I absolutely fell in love! 5 speed manual. Over quarter of a million miles too. This thing is strong and God so fucking quick and fast! Idk if I'll ever go back. Nothing like German engineering. I've always know but never experienced it first hand myself. I'm blown away with how many aftermarket parts this car and engine has. The most I've ever seen with a vehicle and I'm 32 and worked on cars/trucks all my life
@GCS88
@GCS88 2 жыл бұрын
this video is criminally underrated.
@DelEast740
@DelEast740 Жыл бұрын
Incredible video. I'm building a stage 3 with cams as well as a ko4. 350 to 400 is my target goal. Then hand the keys to my son. Can't wait for winter in Hocking hills in the Quattro
@adowie01
@adowie01 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this..this is a great resource for rebuilding my 03 a4
@melvinkimble7709
@melvinkimble7709 2 жыл бұрын
I have done some mods and arp head studs on the original motor. Did all this research 10 years ago. Still have her and now I think I will fully build. Running gt28rs, stage 2 eurodyne, 44mm open dump.
@Mattryanfisher
@Mattryanfisher 3 ай бұрын
Did you ever do this rebuild or get a newer gtx or efr turbo?
@lilfigge9089
@lilfigge9089 2 жыл бұрын
This is really awesome, thank you for making it very straight to the point! I just have one question, how will the gearbox/drivetrain etc hold up for this? I'm looking to work abit on my audi a3 1.8t quattro from 1999 and I don't wanna wreck the drivetrain hehe. Thanks :)
@Rickie-37
@Rickie-37 2 жыл бұрын
Porting the head will help with turbo lag, torque band, lower cylinder pressure/temperature, and overall power gain from every additional component that improves the air flow. When done right on a big turbo big cam build, it is really easy to get 40hp or more out of porting the head properly, and you will gain a lot more drivability too. It is one of the few upgrades that makes the build better in every way with no sacrifices/compromises. Must do in my opinion
@dujuanjohnson5025
@dujuanjohnson5025 Жыл бұрын
Porting actually make you lose velocity when driving off boost.
@szymontrojanowski7565
@szymontrojanowski7565 8 ай бұрын
​@@dujuanjohnson5025boring big holes in place of the ports does that. Properly ported head is one that gives you desired characteristics in NA motor, and it will be awesome boosted.
@gnarshread
@gnarshread 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you making this video!
@AndyMcClements
@AndyMcClements 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated post !
@willsmith8586
@willsmith8586 2 жыл бұрын
I am here for the 5 hp motor. Thinking about moving lawns 😄. Thanks for the video.
@miclo20011
@miclo20011 3 жыл бұрын
This video is the inspiration I needed. Rock on.
@abrahamfranklin2746
@abrahamfranklin2746 2 жыл бұрын
5.48k subscribers? Wtf. Everyone needs to subscribe to this dude. NOW!
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that, I actually made this video when I had about 600 subs. This single video drove about 3k subs subs so far. But unfortunately I don’t have much time to dedicate towards 1.8T content so the channel is lacking that quite a bit.
@Steyreon
@Steyreon 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I am planning to go for 300bhp...seemingly a piece of cake 🎉😊
@ezriderspewstruth8867
@ezriderspewstruth8867 3 жыл бұрын
Dude knows his stuff
@XproShotz
@XproShotz 3 жыл бұрын
If i can ever get around to it.... i got a 01 awm 06A. With just building block im looking at $1400+ thats. With whole block built. Minus. A few hundred. Here or there. Love the video!
@gabrieleduard6001
@gabrieleduard6001 3 жыл бұрын
Niiice video amazing i was looking for a viseo like this for months
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 11 ай бұрын
2023 and still Top shelf information.
@zachwright8011
@zachwright8011 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this vid!! Starting an audi TT build soon and this is great info!
@avancalledrupert5130
@avancalledrupert5130 2 жыл бұрын
Me too . I'm not a vag guy historically I'm a Honda guy .But a civic type R is £5000 . TT is £1000. It's already boosted and 4x4 . Yes it's no where near as good as a k series . But the entire package as base point it's a no brainer really . Making a civic 4wd is a massive task and over 300 hp fwd is not really the one unless you just want a drag car . But I'm all about grip cars and corners. I'm just looking for a budget build b road blaster and the maths says get a tt . I do want over 300hp though which means rods at least to be reliable long term . K it's like just add boost and go all the way up to 600. But I think over all having to open the engine might be worth it for all the other work I won't have to do elsewhere.
@cainmarko4084
@cainmarko4084 3 жыл бұрын
1.8t Jedi Knowledge Ry-Hurr, Thank you for your time most wise Jedi Mechanic!
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps for your videos... Your the one dude that helps us owners dream. 😎🤜🏼🤛🏼🇦🇺🍀🍀🍀🤓
@Adam-uu5pt
@Adam-uu5pt 2 жыл бұрын
First time finding this channel.. Can you make an extended version of this video? As in, like 2-3 hours of just tearing down an engine and talking about each component as you get it off and sharing whatever random wisdom you may have. Doesn't even have to be an engine, I think I could watch you explain how to fold laundry or balance chemicals in a pool 🤣 I have no idea what it is about this video or your ability to explain things clearly but 10/10
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Next time I rebuild an engine I plan on doing a full length How To video or videos on it.
@gregr3283
@gregr3283 3 ай бұрын
Perfect video for planning a build, thank you.
@johnsheikh3831
@johnsheikh3831 3 жыл бұрын
IE tuscan rods are art.
@notyouraveragegoldenpotato
@notyouraveragegoldenpotato 5 ай бұрын
Been doing this for years. Have several as well as 2.7tts. I've blown 4 motors since I installed IE rifle drilled Tuscany rods. Those rods live on to this very second😂 damn good rods
@jakeeames725
@jakeeames725 3 жыл бұрын
2004 AWM 1.8t 5spd 4motion. Not bragging... ok I am lol love this thing. Planning on driving it for the next 50 years and this info will help
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up with all the plastics in the engine bay every 10 years or better yet eliminate as much as possible. The 1.8 is a very solid motor and has very little common failures in a stockish form.
@EMFRocks
@EMFRocks 3 жыл бұрын
Really good info right here. Thank you for your effort.
@alekdamyanov375
@alekdamyanov375 3 жыл бұрын
This was very informative. Just one thing I didn't hear about was the fuel. I remember when I was younger I did as much as I could on a budget on my AWP 1.8T and wish I would have known about the first bottle neck which is the fuel. I had no software, just a 4.3 volt diode on my map sensor so it doesn't go into limp mode and then manual boost controller. I pushed about 23-24psi out of that KO3s. I did do a full custom 3" exhaust, intake, diverter valve and front mount intercooler. The impressive thing was that I could take on stage 2 APR and GIAC stage 2 setups.
@alekdamyanov375
@alekdamyanov375 3 жыл бұрын
oh and another crap piece that kept going out was my coil packs. I think went through 5 of them in the 4 years I owned my GTI. I ended up getting Audi S8 coil packs which never gave me issues once installed.
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
I have another video about fuel. It's a bit generic, but it goes into sizing a system for your power goals. Check out my playlist on how to build power for a quick link to it. I really can't reccomend the diode mod, however I have seen it done. The Wideband ecu's can be cracked pretty much for free now aways so there's no real need to go that "80s" with it ;) I had an APR tune, it's really conservative, typically only 17psi, so I'm not surprised your able to blow them apart. Apr /GIAC made a conservative boost table (Depending on which tune was flashed) and bumped timing up to try and increase the longevity of the turbos.
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
Yes coil packs are another thing... I went red tops myself.
@alekdamyanov375
@alekdamyanov375 3 жыл бұрын
@@budgetoutlaws9978 I was just out of high school and couldn't afford software. This was back in 2007-08. I was surprised how well the diode mod worked for me but absolutely wouldn't do it now. Like you said plenty of choices to do it much better these days.
@alekdamyanov375
@alekdamyanov375 3 жыл бұрын
@@budgetoutlaws9978 cool, will check it out!
@r1gocastro
@r1gocastro 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing all this unvaluable info! really appreciated!
@SouthwestShifters
@SouthwestShifters 3 жыл бұрын
C'mon bro, no need to be so sarcastic 😂
@Tuonon3n
@Tuonon3n 3 жыл бұрын
Came here just because of saw stalker racing team using 1.8t on drift car. Nice information on this vid.
@ryanm9434
@ryanm9434 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video best one thanks to you I took a lot of info out of this and took the route that I took
@Theo-tp2wv
@Theo-tp2wv 3 жыл бұрын
Have a 2000 mk4 1.8t here - looking to add some torque and horses. Thx for the vid..
@bassmunk
@bassmunk 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Finally some reliable and complete info in a video! 👌
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym 3 жыл бұрын
Problems with fuel pressure? Or injectors
@Theo-tp2wv
@Theo-tp2wv 3 жыл бұрын
@@StopTeoriomSpiskowym no probs with fuel system. But water pump beginning to go(15500+Mi). Replaced hoses, belts and sensors to start, went from there...
@matthewlee2686
@matthewlee2686 Жыл бұрын
Wow awesome video! I learned a lot about my new mk4
@ivanbossi7314
@ivanbossi7314 Жыл бұрын
great info and video man!!!
@luemas2766
@luemas2766 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Super useful! Thanks!
@megabikey
@megabikey 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and expertise! Congrats
@fapper_dapper
@fapper_dapper 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, I really appreciate you taking the time to spell all this out in a easy to understand video. There isn't too awful much in depth talk of things like this for the 1.8t. I have done hours upon hours of reading on the internet about the 20v 1.8t but hearing someone speak about it is super nice. One question I have is about using an oem timing belt vs the Gates Racing Kevlar belt. I've heard the kevlar is known to snap but is it worth it for the power? Is it really that prone to snapping? If you had any input to that, I'd love to hear it. Also, the use of 2.0T coil packs vs oem coils. I've been using 2.0T coil packs and NGKBKR7E copper plugs at 0.028. Stage II software on a AWW engine. Change every 10k miles. I keep seeing people using platinum and iridium but I've read several places that the 1.8t doesn't like them. I'd also like your input on a good turbo to replace my tired k03. I'm looking to make around 400hp as reliable as possible. Not chasing lap times or 1/4 mile times. ( i wrote this comment right before you said something about another episode about turbos )
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the exact reason why I wanted to make a video. Lots and LOTS of posts about it but no one has gone and put it to speak, or explained why certain things are the way they are.. Gates belt is certainly a good choice if you have that option. Its only available for the 06A motor though. OEM coil packs gets into ignition of the engine, I only wanted to go into the basic mechanics of the engine in this video (It was already 25 mins long..). Certainly worth the extra spark of the later coilpacks (Whichever option you go, there are a few). Plugs are certainly another issue. I've ran platinum before, and many tuners like to just run the NGK's because they are tried and true and they KNOW they wont have issues with it. I'll have a turbo sizing video in a couple months. Fuel injection is next (Possibly this weekend). 400CHP reliably depends on a lot of factors. Some people run Hybrids that high, but your really pushing a small frame quite a lot. Pro would be spool. You can make 400 on a GT2871 or 76, or get into the newer turbo tech.. A G25-550 is a solid choice as you have headroom plus you wont be pushing the turbo to its max (Im a fan of leaving headroom, less PSI and less heat, plus less stress on drivetrain and engine internals), but the cost of that turbo is high. You could go the chineese G25-550 option but you would have to get it balanced at a turbo shop. Its really all about budget.
@fapper_dapper
@fapper_dapper 3 жыл бұрын
@@budgetoutlaws9978 Thanks for the detailed response man. Definitely some food for thought.
@jon-erikhegstad7228
@jon-erikhegstad7228 2 жыл бұрын
@@budgetoutlaws9978 my next step is looking for the turbo comparison video. These are great videos thanks. Is a ko4 really a bolt on upgrade for the ko3 turbos on a 2001 b5 A4 1.8t AWM(early) or is there more to it than just plug and play? It's a quattro avant and it's been chipped. I've recently done a Gates racing timing belt, stage 2 SB daily clutch, 034 HFC, and it has a few other goodies too.
@brianmatthew582
@brianmatthew582 Жыл бұрын
This is so good . I have had many kinds of cars and am currently looking for a 1st gen Audi TT to build I love the awd . Thanks for the information and I definitely once I find the right car will be in touch to get more information on my build 😊
@OriginalAuttin
@OriginalAuttin 3 жыл бұрын
This video really helped, thank you!
@danroose3813
@danroose3813 3 жыл бұрын
Great information thanks, Dan
@blazzyfr9643
@blazzyfr9643 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I wonder if you can also make more videos for more engines? ✌
@Tommymazzel
@Tommymazzel Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, lots of good info!
@zedgerton73
@zedgerton73 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that this vid is only 9mo old goes to show the 1.8t still has relevance and it’ll never die. Baller engine super affordable, pretty damn bulletproof...and the mk4 gtis are so sexy done up right 💪🏼 put a 2.0 stroker bt in a gutted gti with a o2m you’ll hurt every super cars drivers feelings....gapplebees babyyy 1.8 nevaaaa looseeeeee!!! Nothing like beating 300k cars with a late 90s gti with a 4 banger sleeper😂
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
From what I can tell there has been an increase in popularity of the 1.8t being a platform for building even just since this video, which is confirmed by the fact that so many aftermarket companies are still and continue to produce products and solutions for the engine. I don't think we're at the peak of this motor yet. I think we're going to start seeing a lot of 700-1k HP builds in the near future. In fact I'm considering doing another video on that when I build a motor in that area of power.
@zedgerton73
@zedgerton73 3 жыл бұрын
@@budgetoutlaws9978 I just totaled my mk4 gti it had a awp engine swap. I’m planning on salvaging the engine to build into a stroker and slap it into a mk1 225 Audi TT. My goal is 550-600 reliable hp. The 1.8 is a very good engine. I was trying to find another gti donor but for a similar price I can just get a tt with haldex. I’d like the idea of being able to actually launch it without roasting the tires. I was considering a golf r but I can’t justify spending that money when I can just build a bulletproof 1.8 and slap er into a tt for cheap. This is a very good build guide video btw man good work!!
@jolmeaki
@jolmeaki 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I gave my B5 A4 1.8tqm away. Was going to build it but had to move and landlord said I can't have 2 cars. It had the old APR stg2 tune, exhaust, clutchmasters 240mm fx400 kit with flywheel, swiss cheesed stock airbox, S4 suspension, HD swaybar endlinks in the rear, new control arms in the front, new shock mounts in the rear, RS4 motor mounts, snub mount, 3 sets of wheels- 2 stock 16" 1 17" off another audi. And just did the coils and spark plugs before giving it away. At least it's on the road and the person actually loves the car. I'm enjoying my B7 A4 2.0tqm with unitronic stg1 tune and 034 high flow cat and a cup kit with eibach springs and koni shocks. Still want the B5 back though.
@WalkToPoland
@WalkToPoland Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to build one of my own
@sursomsatan1225
@sursomsatan1225 Жыл бұрын
Picking this engine simply for the sheer abundance. The 2.2 will always be the wet dream but.. It's so much more rare. Plus one more cylinder means one extra rod, rings, lifters, valves, springs, nuts and bolts etc. I generally learn by failing and I'd rather on a 1.8 :D
@jackthornton3496
@jackthornton3496 2 жыл бұрын
Informative video...Thanks again
@tomsmith2209
@tomsmith2209 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@danielhowell6542
@danielhowell6542 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the next videos good info on this mate keep up the good aorkt
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Working on it now. Probably going to hit next week, its taking a lot longer than I had hoped!
@uploader235
@uploader235 3 жыл бұрын
Also 058 AEB pistons are factory forged, later are cast. A good budget option is to use AEB pistons w/ the 20mm wrist pin in later 06a motors. With h beams ofc.
@rsantos12
@rsantos12 3 жыл бұрын
send me some AEB pistons pls (not even kidding)
@swingdaddy2126
@swingdaddy2126 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah... A4 is one of the best handling production cars I have driven... I scare the you know what out of people in mine taking turns...
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my A4. Did well over 1G on the skidpad on street tires.
@MrSpeed808
@MrSpeed808 3 жыл бұрын
a german guy ,philip kaess makes a flowbench test between the small and big port intake manfold ,and it show that the small port ones not only better in lower revs ,it shows its a bit more better even at high revs .he was doing his research for his 1/4mile audi rs4 b5 with 1100Hp ,and he was surprised how the smallport performed .greetz from dortmund
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
I was planning to make a custom homemade flowbench when I built a bigger manifold. Very interesting findings here!!!
@straus1777
@straus1777 3 жыл бұрын
clean hands for someone building performance engines
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
It's not my day job as I mentioned in the video :) Also myself and many others think gloves are quite wonderful ;) Side note.. how many engine builders do you see who wear collared t shirts?
@Wwiaftm69
@Wwiaftm69 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍🏻 vr6 budget build next would be fun to see
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to do a VR6 or 07K build video and put it in our 944 turbo. Currently deciding what we want to do with that car.
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to do a VR6 or 07K build video and put it in our 944 turbo. Currently deciding what we want to do with that car.
@Wwiaftm69
@Wwiaftm69 3 жыл бұрын
@@budgetoutlaws9978 my guy 👍🏻please let it be a 12 valve
@wafi3187
@wafi3187 2 жыл бұрын
I watch this video once every week to remind me what I need to kick some ass
@rhmotor1
@rhmotor1 3 жыл бұрын
Quality video, thank you
@angelalvarez8214
@angelalvarez8214 3 жыл бұрын
HI mi motor 1.8 T trae todos lo que se le pudo metre y funciona muy bien, esta forjado para 1200 hp, te recomiendo busques utilizar empaque de cobre con anillos de cobre para usara HI BOOST, este empaque de cobre lo debes fabricar a medida, posterior calentar rojo vivi y enfriar en aceite, para cuando los aprietes selle muy bien, cuando lo instales usa un espray de cobre por ambos lados y asegúrate que los anillos de fuego no se muevan, estos anillos deben de sobresalir del block del motor 0.18 de pulgada, lo cual se encaja en el empaque de cobre, sellando perfectamente cada cilindro!!
@iancharles23
@iancharles23 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently working with Malone Tuning about to go to stage 3. K04 turbo kit from Rev9, intercooler upgrade, 380 cc injectors, new timing belt kit, 3inch MAF sensor housing, SAI & EVAP Delete on my 2003 VW Passat 1.8t B5 FWD Automatic. I was originally Stage 2 pushing 215hp. Seeing this video makes me want to jump to stage 4 + but my wallet says no for right now.
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
That auto trani won't hold any more than what your going to currently. Be careful with torque spikes with your current setup. Tell your tuner to run a conservative boost curve down low.
@iancharles23
@iancharles23 3 жыл бұрын
@@budgetoutlaws9978 is there any way to upgrade the Trani? I've been told the same thing by other professionals too. I'm not sure what to do other than making the tune less aggressive.
@budgetoutlaws9978
@budgetoutlaws9978 3 жыл бұрын
Not particularly. You can increase the pressure in the lines with a TCU tune but it's just not worth putting big money in that auto trans. There are places like LEVEL TEN that can put stronger internals, but we're talking big money for little return. I would save your money so you can upgrade to a manual awd car, it's a much better platform to build on.
@jdmimportlogistics
@jdmimportlogistics 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative thank you! Is there any differentiation in the 2.1L found in the 83' Quattro- and can't seem to find any particular classification similar to what you are describing for the 1.8L
@keithfeiden1133
@keithfeiden1133 2 жыл бұрын
I love this video! Is there anyway you’d consider doing one for the 2.0t tsi?
@matthewtsai9707
@matthewtsai9707 2 жыл бұрын
Very very good information
@dameagerbeaver7703
@dameagerbeaver7703 Жыл бұрын
My sodium valves at 250k 😥. Great video. More depth the the manual tensioner ( how often tension adjustments are made) and timing belt (gates Kevlar vs. continental to respective power/rpm), preferred water pump, and camshaft chain gear tensioner. Thanks🙏
@Steveestates
@Steveestates 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video bro.
@randombanana358
@randombanana358 Жыл бұрын
what transmission are you using on these builds? This is a great video by the way, thanks for putting it together
@SaskGramCracker
@SaskGramCracker Жыл бұрын
Hey 2nd cousin? Im Graham Blayone and im into the Vw 1.8T's too
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