VW Caddy 1.2TSI Timing Chain Replacement

[@gsoup7850]

I'm a VW tech, been ages since I did one of these, nice little refresher before I go in today, cheers

[@vehtech9699]

Am a technician my self, replaced the complete timing chain kit inc oil pump chain and sprockets and i have a rattle on cold start which lasts around 2seconds and than disappear s everytime, it been like 2years done nearly 20k miles and i drive like a madman since job done and still does it lasts 2sec and disappears, as long as you get oil pressure to the tensioner within second u should be ok leave it idle for couple mins and you should be fine. this is from my xp.

[@xXturbo86Xx]

You probably replaced the old chain with another crappy replacement. If the end letter is not "G", then your chain is probably already failing again.

[@CoreMaster111]

Chain rattles on cold start because you have wrong oil filter. I have found out that Mahle and Knecht make oil filters that work great with this engine. MANN and many other filters cause chain rattle because they let oil drain out of the filter.

[@vehtech9699]

The rattle disappeared now no more chain rattle after diagnosis I spoke to tps and they had different versions of tensioner I have asked for recently revised version for this engine I only fitted the chain tensioner as the chain was still solid and yeah rattle disappeared.

[@sinanmehmet2038]

Very informative thanks a lot great video, I'm a mobile mechanic doing one tomorrow, it's nice how you haven't got to strip the entire side of the engine looking forward to it now

[@leftfootforward1181]

How did it go?

[@leftfootforward1181]

And also how much should I be looking to pay. Cheers

[@andreprins96]

Thanks a lot! I've been able to pull this job of on my own thanks to this video! Very inexperienced DIY'er

[@christopherholt2541]

0p

[@andreprins96]

@@christopherholt2541 ?

[@magaligoutagneux9003]

MERCI beaucoup pour votre vidéo, grâce a vous j'ai réussit a remplacer la chaine de distribution de mon yeti cbzb heureusement car la chaine avait sauter une dent et fonctionnait encore... merci encore ...

[@danielfl.9347]

I love your videos. So interesting to see these old TSI's

[@CoreMaster111]

Looks simple enough. Not sure if I want to do this myself in a cold garage while crawling under the car. Timing chain kit and tools together cost 150€ which is not a lot.

[@bq5577x]

Yeah amazing! I was wondering if I needed to do it some day, I've got a Polo 1.2 TSI with 268.500kms on it. The chain has been replaced once (it runs on LPG so burns very clean, no oil dilution by petrol) - it doesn't rattle ever with starting, but it's good to know it could be cheap to fix!

[@CoreMaster111]

@@bq5577x If I use 5W-40 oil I get oil dilution on mine. 242 000km. I have to use something like 5w-50 or some oil additive. Time for engine rebuild.

[@vehiclemaintenanceandrepai3790]

Nicely done, clear and concise, thanks for sharing.

[@FourRingsAuto]

Thanks for your kind words.

[@billjane5522]

Really nice video, great job with clear and easy explanation

[@xXturbo86Xx]

The latest chain design for this engine, that replaces the faulty previous ones is labaled with a letter "G". If any of you is planning on doing this, make sure you get a complete kit (timing chain,cam sprocket,crack sprocket,oil pump sprocket,chain guides,bolts etc). Make sure it's the letter "G". If you don't get the "G" kit, you're just replacing the old crap with new crap and you will have the same issues. The "G" kit has a wider, beefier chain and wider sprockets as well.

[@gavinelden]

Excellent video. Thank you for taking the time to make and share it.

[@shaeerahmed3902]

Best timing chain video I have seen, very easy to understand, btw can you please share the make or part number of the camshaft counter hold tool please

[@petercarlsson8181]

Just awesome vloggs, i learn so much from them. Thank's!!!

[@FourRingsAuto]

Thanks for your kind words

[@xXturbo86Xx]

Also, i have to say that these chains don't stretch because of lack of maintenance but because of faulty design. My chain was replaced under warranty on the very first oil change. Now after 65000km and even with annual oil changes, the famous "death rattle" appeared. Right on when i was expecting it, based on the feedback of many owners. It's like VW designed them to fail. They think i'm going to just give them almost 1000 euros to replaced it. Joke's on them. Thanks to your and other's istructions i'll do it myself. Looks simple enough.

[@TheDox451]

Did you change the crankshaft sprocket? You mention the new chain doesn't fit original sprockets, however you seemingly just placed it over the original (11:10 in video)? I have a 2011 Polo 1.2tsi with 120k km and planning to change the still factory chain kit from older (first design) to newest and the upgrade kit comes with new crankshaft sprocket. Thanks in advance!

[@Kennethokoro725]

Very helpful this video. First time for me doin this specific engine and I’ve already striped all water hoses from one side 😱 At least now I know I don’t have to next time. Thanks.

[@robc5772]

Hey thanks for the video. Quick question do i need the locking pins to remove just the crank pully? Or is it just the holding tool required?

[@yyz125]

Love your channel.... I have a well maintained q7 with 3.6...110k miles...should i do chains as a preventative measure...?

[@FourRingsAuto]

It wouldn't hurt, they're likely somewhat stretched at this point. The 3.6 luckily can be removed out the top of the engine bay too if you don't have access to a car hoist/lift. It's usually a good chance to clean any sludge build up out of the engine too.

[@mogomega8825]

Very good video👍 . Plz! What is the size of the socket /bolt for the crankshaft?Its a 12 edges.

[@fitzi2696]

Fantastic video, have it on the workbench as another reference while doing my timing chain. I have a Skoda Yeti 1.2 TSI 2010 and the tensioner that is currently on the vehicle is the larger one with the ridge on the spring loaded shaft. Skoda supplied me with a timing kit, the chain and tensioner in this kit are the other variants to what is currently on the vehicle, the kit came with new sprockets and gear as well. You say in the video to make sure the chain and tensioner are the right variant but if Skoda are suppling me with the other variant would it be right in thinking it is an upgrade to the current parts? They ordered the kit using my cars registration so surely it will be fine??

[@FourRingsAuto]

Yes that's correct. It's the chain being different to the sprockets, as in the different chain won't fit the other sprocket, and the tensioner being of a different length. So if you have the whole kit with sprockets you should be fine. You can always ring them to be certain though.

[@philsmith214]

How did you go on with the timing chain ? I have the same car and year and would like to do mine 👍🏻

[@fitzi2696]

@@philsmith214 Went really well. I bought the Yeti manual from the website easymanuals and also followed the video for reference. The timing kit that Skoda provided me was the updated tensioner and chain etc. 👍

[@jaystern2130]

Hey mate. Nice job. I’m about to tackle my wife’s car. Question about the crank sprocket. I noticed it’s not keyed. Any tips on how to make sure the timing is spot on? Cheers.

[@raresicu76]

Thanks ! Great movie , really helpful

[@heiko1798]

Normaly you change the pinon from crankshaft too because since of wear

[@tingreg]

Thank you for sharing this. Very informative indeed. A quick question if you dont mind. My polo has this engine now at 136000km and I'll be doing a timing chain replacement. Is it a good idea to get a new oil pump or just the oil pump chain?

[@xXturbo86Xx]

Just the oil pump chain. But check the water pump for leaks.

[@jackone9894]

Isn't it necessary to also change a main crankshaft wheel?

[@Official__RILO]

is this the same engine as the 1.2 tsi vw golf 85ps?

[@jelmer4019]

You said the oil pump chain was loose. Can this also generate a noise when the engine is a little warm after a drive?

[@paulPavlosCZ]

Please what torque you used to tighten oil pump sprocket? I found 14nm+90°

[@amazighe4514]

Bonjour excusez moi de vous déranger, Un moteur tsi 1.2 w on peut le montrer sur tfsi 1.2 audi a1 ? Cordialement

[@johannespfeiffer7575]

...what size of Nut-Inserts do I need for the Timing-Chain cover fixing bolts?

[@tino8296]

From your experience, what would you tell someone who never did this alone by himself, and who now want's to do it ?

[@clementfouquet2343]

thanks for the video, im planning to do it myself as the chain is pretty loose and probably jumped as its now showing different error codes and rattling ,i was wondering i always heard to change water pump in the same time , is it true for my polo 1.2 tsi 2011 ( exactly same engine as the video ) what are you using to clean (flush) the parts and wich sealant to build it back up . happy to see mechanics in Australia sharing tips, im in sydney , as it would cost a fortune otherwise. will follow you from now on . Cheers

[@EmpiricalPenguin]

Can I check? Is this the same 1.2tsi that's in an 11 plate Golf? Having to replace a HG and this would be great if it's the same engine!

[@hermannalios2740]

snap-on best i have the same torq Lumper dondt forget every 4 yeras give back to calibrite

[@aleksistar631]

Thanks a lot for sharing. I've got a rattling noise from my mk6 golf 1.2 tsi as well , usually when I turn on the engine , then the noise goes away, and the car feels like normal. Do you reckon it could be something to do with the timing chain ? Appreciate any feedback. Thanks

[@eponymous7910]

Could well be- make sure you have fresh oil (5w30 vw504/507) and that it's at a minimum halfway, preferably closer to max on the dipstick. Old/insufficient oil can result in the tensioner failing to adequately apply force at startup in my experience

[@everyonesanexpert]

Hello, this is a great video. I have a SEAT Ibiza 2014 1.2TSI CBZB 4 Door. I am trying to mimic this procedure on the same engine. I just have one question and would be grateful for any general advice. Before you insert the timing tool in the sump there is a small bracket on the back held on by the Allan bolt and one other small bolt, which I noticed you removed before bottoming out the bolt against the crank. Does that small bracket on the back definitely need to come off, as I have seen other videos where people have changed the chain without removing it. As it’s my first time doing this I am concerned that surely if I make a mistake at this crucial stage the damage may cost a small fortune. Thanks in advance

[@Chally117]

Did you find out if needs to be removed

[@khizra61]

@@Chally117 I did the procedure in July last year. I took the entire bracket off as far as i can remember.

[@bubbleuk36]

Is it not necessary to remove/change the water pump during this procedure ?

[@Byley-e7h]

I’m no mechanic but my wife’s 1.2 tsi beetle has had two water pumps in 90k miles and they’re separate to the timing chain area so you wouldn’t change it while doing the chain .

[@louwscustomsza]

Any trick on how to check if the camshaft gears (vanos) are damaged or worn? I keep getting code P0011 & P0341 after changing sensors, oil control valves, magnetic adjusters & checking the wiring on my mk7 gti chh engine

[@tino8296]

Is this the Enginecode "CBZA" ?

[@anthonyaustin2927]

Hi mate wondering for abit of advise. I'm getting my timing chain done did you get the oil pump chain with the timing kit or is that separate. Also I have a slight leak that side what seals and gaskets did you replace/ should I get replaced when doing this job. Thanks

[@bradleymilton9372]

Hi.i have a skoda rapid space back with a 1.2 this engine has 98k miles on it mine sounds fine they said I won't have to change it ilbut I don't belive that what's your thoughts on this engine and wen to change the timing chain is this a non interference engine ?

[@jobsjobbed5125]

Great video. Wonder if you’ve done a 1.4 CAXA? Video I mean😉

[@FourRingsAuto]

Yep definitely have.

[@FourRingsAuto]

I've definitely done one, but I think I still have to edit the video. When I was editing this 1.2 video, I did see a folder for CAXA chain, but assumed I had already uploaded that one. It's on my list now! Thanks for the request.

[@FourRingsAuto]

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[@FourRingsAuto]

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[@FourRingsAuto]

CAXA timing chain - I already had a 2 part video on this.

[@Fisker_2002]

ive got a VW Beetle 1.2TSI from 2016. When accelerating i get this ratteling noice from the engine bay. could this issue have something to do with the timing chain aswell? it has done 125.000km

[@TLu-tk1ro]

Hi. Where can you get such a counter holder for tightening the camshaft sprocket? ty

[@tolgadaa5977]

Hi. I have 1.2 TSI bmt. Can i use 1.4 TSI BMT camshaft on my engine. I mean is it bolt on? And if its possible, make any difference?

[@punaniexpert77]

Great video, thank you.

[@TheJust1961]

Is therr another way to block and stabilze le crankshaft without the specified tools?? thanks in advance

[@FourRingsAuto]

You can make a special tool with aflat piece of metal bar. Drill 2 holes in it and thread 2 bolts through it so they stick out. Then use the bolts to stick through the gaps in the camshaft pulley. The locking tools for the camshaft and crankshaft are very cheap though, so I'd recommend buying them. I paid $25AUD for my kit from HCB Tools and it works great.

[@cristian1991297]

Any locations on Florida??? I have problems on jetta 1.8 tsi

[@eduardgabrielpopescu4056]

Where can I get the timing replacement kit ? The actual kit that'll help me block the timing before removing the chain it self ?

[@FourRingsAuto]

I used a kit made by HCB tools

[@eduardgabrielpopescu4056]

Do you have a link with it, I can't find it unfortunately

[@jessekarjalainen5027]

What is the tightening torque of oil pump gear wheel ? Thank You!

[@alexxx8889]

why don't you change the crankshaft sprocket too?

[@markrainford1219]

How the heck do these things stretch. I mean it's a quadra?Plex chain and it's only turning a camshaft.

[@acer7560]

Does anyone know how many Nm is the valve cover tightened? (I'm asking for Seat Leon 1.2 105HP , CBZB)

[@thekoleroy_at_varsity4103]

What happens if it already skipped a tooth not.starting

[@wakz6172]

Hi, I’ve followed this video and replaced the chain. When checking the timing the engine turns fine but the timing isn’t 100%. When it hits the crank bolt the cam locking tool is very slightly off and I can’t get the screw in. Does this need correcting or will it be okay? Anyone know?

[@daveverdonschot7956]

Does anyone know the torque spec for the oil pump sprocket bolt? Can't seem to find that anywhere.

[@MecaniculAndrei]

NIcee job and nice video !!!

[@dunk1]

Looking at buying one of these should I stay away from the 1.2lt due to the timing chain issues ?

[@FourRingsAuto]

I wouldn't let it be a deal breaker. Just budget it if not done with receipts to prove.

[@dunk1]

@@FourRingsAuto thanks will do

[@yairpreciado9736]

how much torque needs the tensor chain?

[@Chris-xc3xz]

Is it normal for a new chain to make a noise on first start up when cold for just a few seconds and then clear

[@FourRingsAuto]

Did you replace the tensioner too? Not normal.

[@Chris-xc3xz]

@@FourRingsAuto yes everything was changed. But I’ve heard it could be a noise until oil has risen as it only a few sec

[@leetori1]

A bit of rattle on startup is fine guys.

[@андрейседов-т9г]

Какое название динамитрического ключа?

[@TomskiZima]

My wife's Skoda has the same engine and rattle on start up which has become worse just in the last couple of days despite me changing the oil every 6k!! Her engine started to have hesitations during acceleration, could this be because of the stretched chain?

[@FourRingsAuto]

1.2tsi or 1.4tsi?

[@TomskiZima]

@@FourRingsAuto 1.2tsi 77kw 2012

[@FourRingsAuto]

Yeah if it's rattling it's definitely of concern. I would definitely be lookjng at the chain as i have had them jump if left too long.

[@TomskiZima]

@@FourRingsAuto Thanks for replying at 03.00!!! Much appreciated! I got a quote from a VAG specialist 15 miles from me for £800 approx, looks like I will be giving him a call tomorrow.

[@FourRingsAuto]

It is 11am here in Western Australia! I'm probably keeping you up.

[@falcon5800]

How many hours would this job take ? Thanks

[@FourRingsAuto]

Around 5 ish hours from memory. Taking the sump off to do it correctly.

[@martih2775]

how many kilometers?

[@garethbrant7271]

any idea where to get the timing tool set he has?

[@FourRingsAuto]

The timing tools in the video are made by H.C.B tools.

[@Robert-px1vg]

which oil is best for that engine, 0w30 or 5w30

[@FourRingsAuto]

5w30

[@Robert-px1vg]

@@FourRingsAuto now it is inside 0w30 is it better to replace it with 5w30 or

[@ritimetkisi6780]

Can you share the brand of torque meter? :)

[@FourRingsAuto]

Snap-on

[@michaelrobinson3935]

Mate what’s the torque setting for the balance shaft tensioner. Thanks 🙏

[@FourRingsAuto]

On what engine code?

[@michaelrobinson3935]

Four Rings Auto CFPA

[@FourRingsAuto]

The one with the 27mm head that goes through the side of the block? Pretty sure it's 80nm.

[@michaelrobinson3935]

Thanks mate. Someone told me it was 40nm . That would explain why it keeps leaking.

[@michaelrobinson3935]

All so mate I have a p2008 code Would that relate to the intake manifold or one of the modules that hangs off the side of it? I wish I was close to your shop I would bring it to you. VW Amarok

[@Alexander-xh8wd]

Very nice, good job bro

[@alexanderstefanxandraswedi5835]

❤

[@MrBoomtheroom]

how long did this whole process take?

[@FourRingsAuto]

4 or 5 hours i think from memory

[@MrBoomtheroom]

this the same as a 2011 Volkswagen Polo 1.2 tsi ?

[@FourRingsAuto]

Should be if yours is chain drive.

[@shoaibabbas13]

where are you guys based ?

[@FourRingsAuto]

Perth

[@bekirgmff3530]

1.2 ts dsg ? Manuel

[@FourRingsAuto]

Both would be the same job to do the timing chain.

[@milanvreuls3046]

Thnx bro

[@alexanderstefanxandraswedi5835]

❤🎉😊

[@Waylewood]

👍

[@vuslatsultanm2310]

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[@ayanapisica1066]

Km?

[@FourRingsAuto]

Did you watch the video?

[@capitanandy2535]

so shitly motor!!!!.....the chain always lengthens!!!!!! ..every 50 k km!!!!!

[@Honky_Konky_Phooey]

Great video thanks 🙏