VW ID3 55 kWh range test

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[@bjornnyland]

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[@susihormon7821]

But VW now makes adverisement with net 45 KWh. That is an outstanding big buffer for a lowbudget feeling car. I never liked Nissan for the gross Numbers….its so useless!!!

[@wermagst]

I was expecting something like this, when I saw the title 😁

[@susihormon7821]

@@wermagst björn did it on purpose…. The biggest surprise is still the weight…MEB is heavy stuff.

[@UbuntuAllTheWay]

ID.3 price list says 45/48 kWh at least in Finland: api.k-auto.fi/priceCatalog/api/PriceCatalog/a5f6de7a-745a-4253-96a8-1c46a8f82285 Wikipedia also says 45/48 kWh: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_ID.3 Where is this 55 kWh from?

[@TheFootballDude18]

Someone is butthurt?? Lmao

[@mcsthomsen]

Thanks for never spamming "PLEASE LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE AND HIT THAT BELL" 2-3 times every video like some other Car youtubers.

[@mcsthomsen]

@@larsradtke4097 Of course. I always like Bjorns videos, because A) I like them and B) I dont want him to start spamming it (which I dont think he will). This is why I dont watch Kris Rifa

[@jacekban7059]

@@mcsthomsen Hahaha, spot on! I watch Kris Rifa and like his videos, but I find it very annoying as well

[@ellistreloar2047]

Bjorn’s ‘real world’ approach, consistency, knowledge, general even handed-ness and humorous innuendo (in his third language) brings his subscribers and watchers. He does not need to beg! My only beef is that he focuses almost entirely on DC charging when most EV owners will charge overnight at home on cheap AC tariffs.

[@philorgneopolotin8762]

In case anyone just wants a summary, at 90km/hr (56mph) the ID3 got 316km (196mi) of range. And at 120km/hr (74mph) it got 219km (136mi) of range.

[@TesIaCH]

Rip range and interior in comparison to price and Tesla.

[@lorenzmuller4000]

@@TesIaCH the Model 3 SR+ is almost 15000€ more expensive. You could literally buy a second car with that amount of money. And the range difference is only 100km.

[@Infinion]

so traveling 316 km going 120 km/h would take 3.05h and 69.2 kWh including the 25 additional minutes to charge to 75% SoC, and traveling 316 km at 90 km/h would take 3.5h of driving, and use 43 kWh. I think i'd probably travel at around 100-105km/h... a happy medium before wind resistance eats battery like a monster.

[@elawford]

@Bjorn when you're showing the summary table at the bottom, can you sort by Speed and then Wh/km so we can see the rankings for each test?

[@wermagst]

8:10 one thing VW messed up with the lighting (in all versions) is the slide bar below the touch screen. It really needs a backlight.

[@jacoblindberg2387]

Rear view camera is not included in ID.3 Pure. At leas not the one I got here in Norway a few months ago.

[@AdrianHansenreel]

55 or 45kwh? Headline confuses!

[@HansPeter-pm1gq]

@@MrGoogle87 But then i thought it would have 52 brutto kWh

[@ShitpommfritFraz]

45 it is

[@AdrianHansenreel]

We all know where we are going in this negotiation. Let’s settle at 50! 😅

[@bjornnyland]

55 kWh is gross capacity.

[@RealAndreGlegg]

I haven’t even watched this video yet but this is so perfect! Looking into getting this for my wife.

[@mkmproductions9257]

The car Björn is testing has better spec than the basic Pure at 275kkr, this has LED Matrix, metallic paint and a better interior with nicer fabrics in the seats for example. In addition to the smaller battery, the Pure model also has a smaller electric motor of 110kW/150Hp instead of 150kW/204Hp. Some sites says 55kWh gross, some other says 48kWh gross including VW Norway...

[@jjoeris5417]

Bjorn, is it in norway possible to drive Enyaq Iv60 to compare whit Iv80. Enyaq is now charging both 125/130 max fore 60 and 80. Is differents in price (6000/7000,- euro's) whort it?

[@EV_OBD]

The real BMS SOC would help to better understand the large top buffer in this 55kWh battery. But EVNotify shows BMS SOC only at the bottom screen.

[@torgnyskaret5437]

Hei, Bjørn. Does this car have the 100kw charging upgrade?

[@jeales895]

Does anyone know if this is an LFP pack? Like tesla does, fit lower capacity LFP cells in the same space?

[@urkn8963]

Good review one of the affordable cars for daily commutes. Still there might be an error in the sheet- in the video you talk about less than 200wh/km at 120km/h in the sheet it’s stated 219Wh/km. Br

[@ansgarfinn500]

please more videos about the id.3 pure

[@mryenarog5116]

is it display screen in car can rotated?

[@TheEVside]

Great video

[@bab689]

1920kg or 1820kg it is minimum 200kg more than the new Megane E-Tech. Please Bjiorn do a test with the lightest Megane 60kWh 22AC 130DC (the based version 40kWh 7AC only should not exist) vs the lightest ID3 in 18’ wheels. Can an induction rotor beat one day a permanent magnet rotor? That is the question. Wheels Weight and aero can help. Thank you so much Bjiorn.

[@GaneshNayak]

I think future trend would be smaller battery, but capable of very fast charging.. as fast charging network proliferate, we would have short 10 to 15 min sessions , at regular intervals

[@Cloudrak]

I think around 50kwh for around 200 miles will be the most popular size

[@Vxvx22]

A lot of mistakes in the video. 55 kwh should be 45 kwh. 1920 kg weight should be 1820 kg.

[@gelisob]

i'm confused in the beginning too.. cheapest, 45kwh is what he starts speaking about but the title is testing 55kwh..

[@bjornnyland]

55 kWh is gross capacity.

[@susihormon7821]

@@bjornnyland Well…did you guessed the gross kWh…or is it in the coc papers? I asked the Kia premium customer service about the size of the ev6 battery. They answered me wrong. Even carmakers don not know what they are selling.

[@wermagst]

​@@susihormon7821 VW has repeatedly given the official gross(net) capacities for the ID.3 versions. They are 82(77), 62(58) and 55(45) kWh.

[@pawelzebrowski683]

Which version od Ioniq is worse?

[@tinestrlekar7547]

Why is it called 55KWh model, if it gas 45 KWh battery? Is this the smallest battery or the middle one?

[@dantoes1]

5:12 is there a reason why you added 100kg in the spreadsheet? 1820 vs 1920kg?🕵

[@Luis-xr9ye]

Yes thats incorrect in the sheeeeeeet

[@bjornnyland]

Corrected now.

[@zale76]

Why there is such a huge buffer between gross and net battery capacity? 45/55 vs 58/62 vs 77/82. VW is intentionally downgrading it, because ID.4/Enyaq with same battery pack has 52 kWh available!

[@Subie-Driver]

It’s official. I have now watched so many of your range test videos that I think this Canadian could drive your route blindfolded. 😂. VW Canada has made a huge mistake by only offering the ID 4 here and not the ID3. The other mistake is their interest rate…4.5%. I bet Hyundai and Kia will be half that. Too soon to know about Subaru as their EV has (Soltara) not yet been released.

[@Lewis_Standing]

0% in the UK on my Hyundai. 0% on the MG 5 / ZS too. Can't remember what VW offered me on an id3.

[@BNHardwarereviews]

WV said that 55km should do 418 wltp?

[@celeron55]

Was it so that the smaller battery version of ID.3 has more load capacity?

[@markreed9853]

no just cost as the battery plays a big part in the list price, if you need to tow or carry more you will be better with a bigger battery

[@runelothe5409]

How about putting the ID4 pure 52KWh up for a Geilo test?

[@bjornnyland]

I stopped doing that test long time ago.

[@0tispunkm3y3r]

In the U.K. this car has steelies! With plastic trims! Or was this one have some options ticked?

[@shikoku14]

Also the bottom version “Life” has a cheaper fabric on the seats. They may not shaft Norwegians like they do UK ones with the way the have optioned up the RHD import specs (see also that hideous interior in the ID.4 we get).

[@toth1982]

So many people are waiting for Tesla 25k USD vehicle, but id.3 already starts at 30k USD. Although maybe they restrict the charging speed if I remember correctly.

[@kprecipus7370]

on the sheet, error, write: VWID3 45 kWh (power 100 kw)

[@bjornnyland]

55 kWh is gross capacity.

[@ikocheratcr]

I am not sure if I missed something, both video title says 55kWh, not 45kWh.

[@bjornnyland]

Gross capacity is 55 kWh.

[@petearmstrong2778]

It appears that VW is creating marketing confusion with model names and which car it relates to - read comments in many reviews. A search in UK says the ID3 55kWh Pure was discontinued in August 2021. Other people have variants of the 'same' car. Not great for review watching and trying to match to cars available.

[@erdnussflip3439]

Can’t find the Pure version on German website 🤷‍♂️

[@stefanmustermann8218]

Soweit ich weiß hat Volkswagen den id3 pure wegen dem chipmangel aus dem Programm genommen. Erst ist wohl erst 2022 wieder bestellbar. Gruß

[@matteoponzetto6682]

Can you record the video in 4k?

[@SasquatchMelee]

If it involves no editing, then Bjørn does record in 4K.

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@pawelzebrowski683]

Fiat promised same range us vw trio i am disappointed but still i like fiat 500e

[@Nelsonrgpereira]

There's even cheaper version but it doesn't come with those seats and reverse camera for Instance.

[@Nelsonrgpereira]

@ maybe. But he also says he tried the configurator and added the back up camera, etc. So there's definitely a lower spec also in Norway

[@edvinasasirovas8416]

did this one have a heat pump ?

[@bjornnyland]

Standard in Norway.

[@zensascha8690]

Great car, probabaly my next car or maybe M3? ;)

[@HeadPack]

It seems M3 just got a new meaning :)

[@mravecsk1]

90-120, 30km/h difference but 60perc higer consumption...

[@christianhovestadt1894]

Your title says 55kwh, but is tis 45kwh

[@meisterkenobicrypto]

It's 55 kWh battery but it's 45 kWh usable

[@alfrredd]

It's got a big ass buffer.

[@meisterkenobicrypto]

@@AaronStarkLinux okay I was just explaining why he named it 55 kWh. It should be 45 in the title because even i was like "wait this is not the 45 kWh".

[@tacosalaten3677]

Its most likely a typo since he says 45 kWh in the video 0:27

[@xmtxx]

@@AaronStarkLinux Well, people should. At least a little. It means that you'll have the standard capacity for way longer than with a car with no buffer.

[@Alekpowah]

are there any good reasons to pick an ID3 over a Model 3 when they are so similarily priced in Norway?

[@stefyyy1994]

even if Model 3 is 10k more, for similar specs, i would still go with Model 3.

[@izpodpolja]

Seating position + ride comfort + soundproofing, hatchback opening, length, turning circle

[@RuneVenes]

If you haul heavy things, over 300 kg, then Model 3 is near the legal limit.

[@audunskilbrei8279]

Maybe someone who needs the hatchback for dogs or something. And I would say the price difference is actually significant. If you don't need the extra range and you need the practicality of this one. I think it's a good option.

[@stefyyy1994]

ID3 is just joke of a car, so bad in every single category! ID4 is much much better! Also, Mach-E is great as well. But my choice would be Model Y or Model 3.

[@StefanoFinocchiaro]

Hi, Bjorn I've the Skoda citigo-eiv (aka E-up) and I've noticed that VW it's faking instrument cluster consuption (about 20% less then the real, I can prove this). I think you should not trust instrument cluster values. You should find an indipendent way to calculate the consuption eg: by charging to 100% then driving a bit and recharging at 100% and see how much charge it took on DC, otherwise in AC you have to caluclate first the OBC efficency. In my case if I try to estimate the battery capacity from the consuption result in a battery of 28-29kwh wich is not. Instead if I check via OBD and see the battery kWh counters before and after the a trip I can calculate the real consuption and estimate the correct battery size (32,2kWh) Can you test it with an e-up? (Probably also e-Golf, I don't know ID3 and MEB platform)

[@oenkepoenke]

Stefano, you're including charging loss, which can be very different based on charging speed, temperatures etc. Bjorn doesn't do that, gues out of the reasons I've mentioned.

[@StefanoFinocchiaro]

@@oenkepoenke I excluded charging losses because I've checked what the battery kWh counter says via OBD (which are after charging losses)

[@StefanoFinocchiaro]

@Ferdi Posh I'm not talking about charging losses here, I'm talking about fake consumption reporting while driving, the car consume more than it report

[@DrMatthewhannah]

Bit confused by title. Maybe there is a difference in Norway but in UK the Pure Performance (cheapest) ID3 has 45kWh Net battery pack. There is a 55kWh (usable) model with a 58kWh (Net) battery but that is the Pro performance.

[@bjornnyland]

55 kWh is gross capacity.

[@TheFootballDude18]

My guess is this config car has the heatpump, which means this «Pure» version is actually fairly stacked with options..

[@wojciechmuras553]

Heat pump is an optional extra in every trim.

[@NickFoster]

Yeah, the heat pump is a £1000 option, and the groovy interior lighting comes in the interior options package for another £2000.

[@asaha7547]

Nordic countries gets heatpump, for other countries it's optional

[@TheFootballDude18]

@@asaha7547 Nope, not true

[@TheFootballDude18]

@@NickFoster Exactly, hence why this review is false «advertising». A video with a REAL stock ID3 would be fun though.

[@SD_Racing]

Weight says 1820 but spreadsheet says 1920?

[@LoneWolf-wp9dn]

bjorn had a big lunch :)

[@rogerfinch7651]

He didn’t have a sheeeeeeeeeeeet!

[@raduioanitescu6704]

4:56 371V x 125A = 46.375 kwh which is decent, and will be higher later. A bit lower than 49-50 but still good.

[@lukasl1304]

*kW

[@MrAlbak]

Why 55kwh, it is 45!!

[@Luis-xr9ye]

Gross and usable

[@_TrueDesire_]

@@Luis-xr9ye ID.3 comes with either 45 kWh, 58 kWh or 77 kWh (net capacity)

[@Luis-xr9ye]

@@_TrueDesire_ yes, 55, 62 or 82kwh gross capacity versions 👍

[@bjornnyland]

55 kWh is gross capacity.

[@MrAlbak]

This is really strange, so battery has 10kwh buffer? It is quite a lot ( almost 20 %) So potenially they can make more usable capacity available later with some OTA and increase range...

[@petraomenova2634]

I'm a bit confused. TS mentions 45 kWh a few times, but writes 55 in title and sheeeet at 9:46. I think 45 is correct here since his result of 316 km is closest to the wltp (330km) of the 45 sized battery on ID3's wikipedia page.

[@Luis-xr9ye]

55kwh is gross capacity

[@bjornnyland]

55 kWh is gross capacity.

[@sotirispa]

Title says 55kwh and it's also wrong at the sheeeeeet at 5:22. Weight was 1820kg instead of 1920kg, and battery is 45kwh.

[@bjornnyland]

Gross capacity is 55 kWh.

[@FFVoyager]

"Faster than classic Ioniq"! That is the measure of EV's 5 years after the Hyundai was first made!

[@toninocars]

Probably faster than ionic but not as efficient, my one 2021 38kwh battery does often over 5.2m/kWh 👍

[@FFVoyager]

@@toninocars I know. My 'classic' 28 - 219 miles 5.4m/kWh last week.

[@wermagst]

@@toninocars Please stick to energy/distance driven. It's much better for comparing consumption. Mpg or m/kWh are really, really dumb units. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pX20nqqFjZuLmtU

[@gaizkitapowers]

Nice! You are likely in relax mode. Very polite and thoughtful. This should be the common choice for everyone asking. But fuck VW🤟

[@LoneWolf-wp9dn]

this is a direct competitor for the corsa e

[@Likr666]

Corsa e ist a smaller Car. There's a Lot more space in ID.3.

[@LoneWolf-wp9dn]

@@Likr666 i know... this has a bunch more features... but in price they get pretty close

[@pawelzebrowski683]

No e C4

[@IoanRobicek]

it is 45kw ...

[@bjornnyland]

*kWh

[@tobias..6688]

I didnt know the ID3 has the matrix led in the pure version

[@ItsExetic]

It doesn't, at least in Denmark. You need the design package for €2000 to get matrix LED.

[@tobias..6688]

@@ItsExetic At the beginning of the video I can clearly see that Björns ID3 is equipped with matrix.. Maybe they have given him a spected up version

[@ItsExetic]

​@@tobias..6688 They most likely have. In Denmark Matrix LED is extra equipment on all models. It is not standard even on the Pro S.

[@TheFootballDude18]

@@ItsExetic The wheels on this ID3 is not standard, same for the headlights. The car Bjørn is driving is probably 310k+, depending if it has heatpump etc etc etc.

[@ItsExetic]

@@TheFootballDude18 He mentioned it has backup camera as well which is not standard either. Calling this the "cheapest ID.3" as the title suggests is very misleading.

[@clint965]

like in the old days when germans build good panzerkampfwagen!

[@frederikjmx]

*45 kWh

[@Luis-xr9ye]

55kwh gross capacity with 45kwh net!

[@bjornnyland]

55 kWh is gross capacity.

[@ltkwok]

VW should sell this in the US.

[@peziz]

It is confusing to name some cars by net capacity and some gross. This is now like naming the classic Ioniq as "Ioniq 31kWh". VW calls this car Pure (Performance) 45 kWh. AFAIK, the gross capacity 55 kWh appears pretty much nowhere in their material. To make it worse, false information about 48 kWh gross capacity has been spreading widely since 2019.

[@ElmarBon]

45 kwh!!! Not 55kwh!! Change title!!

[@Luis-xr9ye]

55kwh gross capacity with 45kwh usable

[@bjornnyland]

55 kWh is gross capacity.

[@user-zm7ps7uy7h]

قراضه وزن ثقيل والبطاريات ٤٥kwh

[@bjornnyland]

Hæ?

[@Sniffiez]

Ooh no it´s windy. EV cars stay at home..

[@terryleacock5765]

"Pure", nothing!

[@kreandi]

55 or 45 kWh? Shiiiiiiit.

[@plushiie_]

It's a basic good EV that your parents can drive.

[@martisuper7963]

Only 300km range... these electric vehicles are a joke...

[@Cloudrak]

Why 55kwh, it is 45!!

[@Luis-xr9ye]

55kwh is gross capacity

[@bjornnyland]

55 kWh is gross capacity.