VW ID4 82 kWh 1000 km challenge

Results from my range tests, banana box tests and other goodies here:
drive.google.com/open?id=1HOw...
Get 30 day free trial on ABRP if you use the referral code TESLABJORN:
abetterrouteplanner.com/ref/T...
ScanMyTesla app for showing battery temperature, etc:
play.google.com/store/apps/de...
/ scanmytesla
www.e-mobility-driving-soluti...
www.e-mobility-driving-soluti...
The OBD dongle I use in Tesla, Leaf, Ioniq, e-Niro, e-Soul, i3, ID3/ID4 (Android only):
www.obdlink.com/products/obdl...
My Artlist playlist:
artlist.io/mycollection/24628...
Most of my music is from Artlist.io. If you sign up for one year and use my referral link, you will get two months free:
artlist.io/Bjørn-42729
Donation links:
streamlabs.com/bjrnnyland
/ teslabjorn
My live channel:
/ teslabjornlive24
Teslabjørn Discord server:
/ discord
Reduce food waste and get great deals on food:
toogoodtogo.no/

[@jamesellis4899]

This is the best test of any EV -thank you Bjorn

[@danisani222]

Funny guy

[@andrewolff708]

I'd like to see the same with the equivalent Skoda Enyaq. I'd wager it's even better.

[@RedBanana24]

and second best is the Bananabox test ❤

[@bilgyno1]

@@andrewolff708 Enyaq comes standard with only 50 kW 'fast' charge... Don't forget to spec in the upgrade to 125 kW... With that upgrade, the Enyaq and ID.4 should be pretty close. It will be interesting to see how updates and upgrades will be rolled out. So if the ID.4 gets an upgrade to 170 kW charging, will the Enyaq also get it?

[@ivanvarcek2814]

@@sliddjur yes it is, just the trunk is bigger and the interior has much nicer options.

[@thomaseriksson3182]

Nice!👍 Looking forward to ID-3 big battery next weekend 😎 thanks for all you done for us ev "nerds"😁

[@christofscheib4746]

Wow! That's really close to Tesla Performance. Looking forward for the test with the ID3 with big battery.

[@DavideMoriello]

it's also close to the VW ID3 1st 62 kWh and the id3 test was made with 20kWh less battery ...

[@make4all2000]

Only two seat on the back :(

[@DavideMoriello]

@@make4all2000 no, the 62 kWh version has 3 seats on the back

[@make4all2000]

@@DavideMoriello i now, Christof Want with big battery

[@christofscheib4746]

I thought the Id4 allways comes as a 5 seater? The ID3 unfortunately has only 4 seats with the big battery. That's really not good.

[@jasonvoss1984]

I still get a smile just seeing you back at full health. Your passion for EV's got me interested in other related cool tech. I just bought my first e-mountain bike. Not for roads, just trails & bike paths for me. Lots of fun. Well worth checking out.

[@mattiematt9607]

Is this the shortest 1000 km challenge video? I think so

[@bilgyno1]

Well it was pretty quick..

[@AriesT1]

Das schnelle Video

[@leokowalski]

No problem, here is the long version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5mxXolqfrOXes0 😀👍🏻🚗💨

[@nocomment8273]

I was so hoping that you test the ID3 82kWh on the 1000km challenge. Now you do it next week. I'm so excited.

[@leaflover3497]

You have been giving this car lots of good reviews. VW should send you a big Thank You gift!

[@rtfazeberdee3519]

Great Video, much better format for the 1000km challenge

[@jochenliebig1562]

Impressive. And it's so interesting how US influencers like Engineering Explained seem to shit on the ID.4, when Bjorn's thorough test reveals it's actually a really good car.

[@pilotandthecity8527]

This Enginering explained video was really fake news. Only focus on the negative. Actually it was a charging video, and not even a honest one. That guy made a fool of himself there!

[@jasonblair4057]

I watched quite a bit of the live stream which was very entertaining and this is an awesome summery. 👍👍

[@sverresamdal3693]

Thank you for a good test and "benchmark" list. I have a model S from 2014, this i an interesting car, good value for money. I will take a test drive myself sooner or later. Keep up the good work!

[@fritzstorp8357]

When you still buy a new gas car in 2021 8:01

[@EliasFabricius]

Danke für das gute Video!:))

[@GaudiHitByTram]

Gute Challenge! I hope the situation will be back to normal soon, and we see the classic 1000 km challenge again!

[@bq5577x]

@@bernhardleopold6702 that'll always be worse, higher is worse in efficiency and even with fossil that doesn't make sense. So just drive slower, it's better for the environment.. :)

[@edc1569]

@@bq5577x walking is even better for the environment?

[@Deddily]

Yay, nice bite-sized video but still with all the relevant information. Thanks Björn :)

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

Thisss is the best EV reviewer in the world :) The ID4 is ok too - no less important than the future of all of VW. Seems like the Q4 Etron will be a winner, based on the good bones of MEB.

[@davidmichie]

When will you get your hands on an Enyaq?

[@epatto]

It's the same as ID.4.

[@kasmopaya2676]

@@epatto No its not, the interior is far superior. It deserves a hands on look from Bjørn! I would buy the Enyaq over ID.3 or ID.4. Maybe ID.5 can keep up with the inside of the Enyaq. We will see. ID.6 is also coming and then ID.7(Buzz)

[@epatto]

@@kasmopaya2676 Yes, I agree. But the powertrain is the same, that's what I meant.

[@mariueg]

Very impressive

[@guilhermesilveira479]

Nice video watching from Toronto Canada

[@michelmelinot]

I love the rythme of the video! Sub 15mn for a challenge video make it more entertaining I find. And then I love your long videos for road trips & more relaxing stuff

[@jonasrosengren9093]

Amazing!

[@janerras]

Hi Bjørn, great to see you up and running, when will you test the Citroen e-C4?

[@EV_OBD]

Great video as usual. 0:25 the livestream camera + phone obstruct the view (almost half of the windscreen), probably entirely legal, yet not sure if road safe... Plus the second handheld camera. Drive safely!

[@dylan-nguyen]

Beginning: Bjorn when he’s had his morning coffee 🤣

[@taxsi]

The efficiency of Hyundai ionic 28 kwh battery amazed me (pause and check the at 11.44 ). costs only a 1.5 hours longer trip and half the price.

[@brewmanchu1]

The Ioniq 28 is a fantastic car.

[@winstijnsmit3752]

8:00 NEIN NEIN NEIN NEEEEEIIIIIIIN!

[@chickenoo8]

Gr8 vid, love the 1000km challenge! In your opinion, Bjørn: how close is id4 to be a likeworthy option to the TMX?

[@ansgarfinn500]

nice car !

[@martinweston8147]

Looking forward to the ID3 long range test, the kona and Niro are showing their age a little now with their slower charging speeds.

[@emceh]

Nice car

[@noneofyourbeez3425]

i really would like to see a test with the vw id 3 pure performance with 45 kwh net

[@JoaoGabriel-lo3qs]

Good video. Testing a new Audi e-tron S 55 quattro Sportback, please

[@bernardhilton3527]

Love the music. The car is not bad either. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SamuraiTacos1]

id 4 is dope i am on the waiting list in the states lol

[@superset5]

you can go buy an id4 off the lot in the USA. no need to wait for it.

[@tzarcoal1018]

really? I heard the news that they started selling, but I think it was in March and not so many cars, so I suspect many people still need to wait a while for a delivery date.

[@SamuraiTacos1]

@@tzarcoal1018 yeah i'm looking at getting the awd version in merica

[@themystguy]

Why is this video short? Niche gud. We want moaaar

[@johnfilion1]

Das am besten aussehende vw

[@alexs.3010]

Hi Bjørn. Did you consider to do a consumption test using the "Anhängerkupplung" with a one ton trailer on it? I mean - this is one of the unique points of this car and I didn´t actually see any other vlogger doing that test. Could be interesting.

[@KasperCDK]

A Danish website did it. 246 Wh/km with 1.000 kg on the "Anhängerkupplung" on normal roads and 6-8 C

[@keizei68]

Hi Mr. Whats upp! When and if are you going to get your hands on SKODA ENYAQ?

[@hrrrrrrr2084]

When you think that ID.4 and ID.3 are the current king of EVs and they should receive updates that will make them more efficient and charge faster. Imperator.

[@fandreasr]

Bjørn! When will you run a test on the BMW iX3?

[@JIHillestad]

How about doing a Geilo test with a Model X Raven? «Falkor», my 2020 LR 6 seater is available

[@gabrielbourke1194]

Great vid. Happy that my wifey is not down anymore...oops I mean wifi not wifey...

[@rafaelleitegandica2959]

Yooo what's up. I need a information please. In your great knowledge in electric vehicles, taking into account that the iv enyaq and the id4 are prime, which would be your choice between these 2 vehicles. Thanks 🖖

[@PepiSchmeichel]

You should do asame test with some load in the car

[@keizei68]

Vecīt, es gaidu kad Tev būs SKODA ENYAQ!

[@thorbjrnhellehaven5766]

Use English: Google Translate to English, detected Latvian:: Old man, I'm waiting for you to have SKODA ENYAQ!

[@wealox]

So the ID.3 with the big battery might hit the 10 hour mark.

[@MrKlawUK]

Impressive but the smaller capacity and cheaper ID3 is close enough (less than 11 hours). Will the big battery ID3 take the crown...? Ooh

[@carlomorischi3435]

We want to see the back middle seat of the id3 77kw/h that is absent

[@randomgoodnessca]

Do you have plans to test the AWD version?

[@borabora8757]

Deutscheland !

[@JPetr94]

Can't wait for tomorrow's ID3 stream! Achtung, stay tuned! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJOrp6J7jLB4ncU

[@Hitman006xp]

Can't wait for the Model 3 SR+ 2021 test ;) guess it will be below 200wh.

[@simsnqta]

Ey up Bjorn Looking at the spreadsheet I can see that you have the prices in the right hand side. Probably you could create a new unit. Price per speed. Krona per km/h. Or Euro per km/h. (Not sure what your currency is exactly) Let's take the second car in your list. 750 000 kronas / 10 hours driving time = 75 kronas / km/h (approximately of course) Then let's take the Ioniq 28 kWh from your list. 250 000 kronas / 12 hours driving time = 21 kronas / km/h (approximately) So that gives you a new insight of is it really worth it to buy a very expensive EV. It seems that the gain isn't so great if you paid a car which is 3 times more expensive. Just an idea :)

[@teslarossa2896]

can you the charging stops to the list? (how many and time)

[@EV.Furkan]

10:35 - All ID.4 77/82 kWh version gets staggered wheels. So 235 front / 255 rear for the 19/20/21". The ID.4 52kwh isnt staggered. 235 wide all tires for 18 and 19 inch's. 19" alloy are the same for 77 and 52 kwh [Hamar].

[@bjornnyland]

Incorrect. You can get ID4 with 235 front and rear in 19".

[@JBrm]

@@bjornnyland in my papers it says that only 255s are allowed in the back (Austria, 82kWh)

[@EV.Furkan]

@@bjornnyland Yes, they are the same rims, yes you can get it with 235 front and rear, but if you order 19" with 82kwh battery you get the staggered option. with 52kwh you get 235 on all wheels. check the german configurator.

[@EV.Furkan]

@@bjornnyland To add on this, this happens the same with Skoda Enyaq IV60 and IV80. 77/82kwh rear has 255 and 58/62 kwh has 235

[@boa_keine_ahnung]

8:00 NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN!!!

[@glennanderson3725]

I'm enjoying your tests. How can I get a copy of your spreadsheet?

[@bjornnyland]

Check description.

[@glennanderson3725]

@@bjornnyland I was hoping for a spreadsheet but looking at your video helps. If you use your data and the data from other sources, You will discovered electric cars can be more costly than an F-150 pickup truck. Electrify America is $0.42 to $0.31 per kWh. Regular fuel in the USA (Missouri) is $2.50 per gallon. I'm sure the electric car looks better in EU because the fuel cost (taxes) are so high.

[@glennanderson3725]

@siliara Thank you! I didn't know I could do that. I guess if you are paying $8.00 per gallon, EVs are a bargain. $2.30 here in USA Midwest. It is interesting that Tesla isn't very expensive and would work here in the Midwest. It is almost as cheap as home charging, around

[@MajorSebbaa]

I also need a Tesla Model 3 Sportsback.

[@jaspreetsingh5264]

Unfortunately Electrify America chargers here in US are really crappy and do not work. I have been stranded 3 times!!! Very nice car but Electrify America is a joke.

[@sollytrotz6056]

Is the id 3 with the new update?

[@jochenliebig1562]

Looking forward to EQS 1000km challenge. 1 charging stop?

[@jochenliebig1562]

@@josefv8708 Go before the drive, then just don't drink (much) while driving.

[@kasmopaya2676]

@@josefv8708 EQS preparation, charge to 100%, pee and then get in the car as quickly as possible and drive. Funny how EVs outperform us humans already. Tesla did it first with Model 3 and v3 Superchargers.

[@VincentVanWersch]

Does the charging infrastructure influence the results? I mean a few cars were tested in 2019, has the charging infrastructure improve?

[@Watts_is_love]

For sur. Same test in France /Germany could lead to very big difference since the loading network is not as good as Norway and big difference in locations between Tesla charger and non Tesla chargeur . Use ABRP to test it out and you will see.

[@Will-dq4vh]

It’d be better to test a few cars simultaneously on the same day to eliminate the weather and traffic differences. Team up with Kris and some other people to 3 or 4 cars on the same day.

[@longrange747]

ID 3 82 kwh - 10 h ?!?! summer 20 C - it is certainly.

[@jakobnev5973]

1000km in 12m52s -> 4664km/h, fastest car ever!

[@gbw28]

TeslaBjorn 2x speed.

[@petrhajduk9955]

Hire some coder to turn all your previous data on 1000 km challenge to a horse race that you can comment :-)

[@Zedus-rl9hp]

ID4, the better e-tron

[@hallo55665]

Could you check the 0-100 time again on the ID3? Since the new firmware many reportet that it got much better acceleration and punch to it.

[@MihaiAdrianNegru]

When are you going to do the test with the SR+ 2021?

[@edc1569]

What is SR?

[@MihaiAdrianNegru]

@@edc1569 Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus

[@JIHillestad]

Looks like Tesla needs to buff the charging curve ever so slightly.

[@bjornnyland]

Model 3 charges quite fast. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3TQqqCAqbOaorM

[@fabioromano7752]

If Tesla was smart, they would ship you up a Model Y to compare to this thing.

[@TKloud]

What about 1000km challenge .. two same cars .. but one would have charging style from 0% - 100% and second car would charge from 25% - 75% ... which car will be faster?

[@bjornnyland]

No need to.

[@tavi_chocochip]

The VW ID.4 seems to hit the sweet spot from a value-for-money perspective. It works better than the Model 3 as a family car, and it's cheaper for the same range than the (imported from the US) Model 3 LR. Which makes the Made-in-Germany Model Y even more important and anticipated, as the pricing for it in Europe (highly dependant on how well Tesla manages to ramp up production volume in Berlin) should be very competitive against the various ID.4 variants. 2022 will be the battle of the EV crossovers in Europe, bwahahahaaa!

[@nukularpictures]

Well the ID.4 is indeed an interesting car. Especially once the release the faster charging option for 175kW. But with Tesla I am not so sure if they can start this year. They do not even have a final permit and all that they are currently doing is with a temporary one so it might requires some changes. All they are doing right now might have to be changed if they are some problems. Right now water is apparently the main question here. However I highly doubt that Tesla is allowed to start production with just a temporary permit plus IG Metal (big powerful union in the car industry) has already said they will protest and potentially try to halt production due to Musk not even entering into negotiations. So all in all I do not think we will see production start in the middle of 2021. It will be close to 2022. Anyway the other MEB cars also look quite interesting so lets see what will happen.

[@EinzigfreierName]

@@nukularpictures I agree, Model Y will not be a big competitor for ID.4 in Europe this year. Next year is getting much more interesting regarding this "battle".

[@Francis-yc9nc]

IMHO the Tesla Model Y in europe is expensiv it start in germany at 59K Euro a ID.4 start at 37K Euro alone this price gap is huge and the insurace savings with ID.4 the gap gets even more. it would be intressting if the current sold ID.4 will get V2G support and how much does it cost. when you have a solarroof this will be a big plus.

[@WLLiLLW]

@@bernhardleopold6702 even when the Model 3 SR+ is quicker than ID.4 - what do you wanna say? If the ID.3 82kw is quicker and cheaper than the M3 SR+ does it mean its the better car? I think overall it just proves that the ID.4 is working well enough for what its meant to be for a competitive price.

[@tavi_chocochip]

@@Francis-yc9nc Don't trust Tesla's pricing for the Model Y in Europe, it's just a placeholder. It's what they did in Shanghai. They don't want to kill the demand for the (available) Model 3 by showing a price lower than that. Once they actually start production, they get more clarity on their own cost structure, and the cars are available, then the price will be updated.

[@SuperMixedd]

This seems like a relatively simple mathematical optimization problem: "Given a max capacity of X km per full charge, calculate how often and for how long do you need to stop to charge your vehicle at certain charging currents to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible". I wonder if there are any apps that can do that... Does tesla's onboard computer do this kind of optimization? Maybe I should write a stand-alone app where you input your average kwh consumption per 100km, your max capacity, temperature, etc and it calculates the itinerary??

[@EinzigfreierName]

How about ABRP (a better route planer) ?

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYapf6uKn6qHgMk

[@lukasseth18]

Can you do it with a fossil car?

[@bjornnyland]

Already done it. Check out my channel.

[@DavideMoriello]

is this good? This seems bad VW ID3 1st 62 kWh: 10h45min it took only 10min more but it has a 20kWh less battery.

[@benediktfreude]

Well ID4 is bigger with more weight and more drag

[@tommesob5099]

Only 12 Minute for a 1000KM :(. Needs to be longer :)

[@Nobody_Famous]

4:34 missed opportunity for a dodgy dubbed voiceover 😂

[@susihormon7821]

It is a kind of fast at a charger...but a SUV on Highways is wasting energy. How many kWh is the VW "Klotz" wasting compared to an ioniq?

[@susihormon7821]

@@abraxastulammo9940 Our dog needs some more room...thats why we never get a Tesla M3. Maybe a y ...more likely a ev6.

[@user-in1gn6fw2eab]

Mehr deutsche Titel! : D

[@addi73mailru]

Сколько стоит такая машина? Эх, вот бы мне такую!

[@bjornnyland]

English please.

[@andrew7455]

This table of results is missing Model Y.

[@koma-k]

Will have to wait till giga Berlin gets Y production going - no deliveries of Y in Europe until then.

[@averagesimguy598]

why is this only 12 minutes? Not long enough haha

[@arnesmebye2513]

Suggestion: Play it in slow-motion 😉

[@markusbeck5280]

You need a haircut my friend ;-)

[@bjornnyland]

You need to watch today's videos. And the reason for long hair is obvious: I shot these videos during Easter when everything was closed. And before that, I had covid.

[@ShampooDelicious]

First

[@kiml4662]

FAIL it's not a "challege" to do 1000 km in Norway, ITS A WALL IN THE PARK 😂😂 Try Sweden if you really want to brag about it 😂the Norwegian charge infrastructure is not representing what all the other countries have too deal with