VW ID3 82 kWh 1000 km challenge

[@LauwersFreddy]

Would be nice if all EV manufacturers provided a ‘Stats for nerds’ page in their dashboard for everyone who wants to see soc, temps and all other info that can be interesting. Thank you for making these videos’

[@xmtxx]

Pretty sure that's what the engineer propose. Then some w**ker from marketing decrete that it's too hard for the customer to understand, annnnnnnd you end up with consumption units looking something like Wh/h

[@apple4youngsters874]

Very excited for the EQS 1.000 km challenge!

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Possibly the fasted time so far. If the charging curve is similar to other EQ models, not a huge peak but very flat till high SOC, 2 charges only?

[@nakfan]

Exactly my thought too. Someone's gonna buy me a Mercedes Benz...😀

[@Perkelenaattori]

@@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος It's more efficient at speed than a Model 3 according to the German youtube video I saw and has 770km range. It's at a point where the issue isn't the car but Björns bladder like with a fossil. ^^ EDIT: The days of Bladder Anxiety are here now.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@@Perkelenaattori that will be fun - who has more stamina - the EQS or Björn? Watch here! :)

[@POTThaesslich]

Yes, that will be fun. Move away Model S, the real S class is in the House!

[@christiank.548]

The ID.3 82 kWh is now available with 5 seats. Its called ID.3 Pro S Tour 5.

[@FinskuTV]

I thought the model name you posted was a joke, but damn, that's a real name.

[@mielflorea]

@@FinskuTV not, not a joke, its real. ID.3 Pro S Tour 5 150 kW (204 CV)

[@chickenoo8]

Bjørn the EV legend

[@oisiaa]

Bjorn is probably the most experienced EV driver in the world. I bet he has driven more miles in more types of EVs than anyone else in the world.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

The best EV review in the biz. It's a good car for longer distances - very efficient, will become more efficient still for sure.

[@kasmopaya2676]

And it gets its own "Supercharger network" VW announced that they will with Audi and Porsch build up their own. Starting soon. Finished? I don't know.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@@kasmopaya2676 I guess it really depends where you live. It should be a generic supercharger network tight knit. That makes the EV market successful. Nobody likes a dedicated charging network which is not open for everybody.

[@kasmopaya2676]

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 Open for everybody for 1€/kWh. Better? Like Ionity? No thanks, better everyone builds a own. Or they group together. Like Stellantis.

[@oisiaa]

Bjorn is probably the most experienced EV driver in the world. I bet he has driven more miles in more types of EVs than anyone else in the world.

[@kasmopaya2676]

@@oisiaa Agreed. The EV ambassador, or EV King right there.

[@jonasrosengren9093]

You have proved that you can travel with an electric car close to 100 km/h in average... for ever. Brilliant demonstration. Besides, it's good to see you fully recovered after the COVID strike

[@wildatlanticman128]

Been looking at the ID4...this is another great vid! Your channel is excellent btw. Thank you!

[@fredpinczuk7352]

Before you do, may want to check Munro initial review on its construction. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpLbYnuji7V-kLs He's got one video with under the car construction and another on the rear motor. He doesn't hold any punches, and frankly should not be ignored.

[@stane89]

Dude, you know your EV stuff. I really enjoy your content!!!

[@pilotandthecity8527]

Bjorn, for me your reviews are working. it's honest, the way you experience it. a real live , and even life, experience. ;) Many other reviewers are quite pre-occupied about VW, specially when they are in love with many Tesla pro's (and Tesla has for sure many positive aspects) . You're actually almost the only one , together with your Norwegian colleague and friend Chris, who's very positive about the ID3/4. I notice that many American reviewers (ID4) are quite negative about the ID. Why? I'm not sure, I think it's just a different way of car use in Europe and the value we connect with cars in Europe. compliments again and cool that there are more good EV's on the road. the more the better. About the windbag on the bridge, As a pilot I can tell you , we have them on the airports too. One color band is reflecting 5 kts of wind. so, a full horizontal windbag represents 25kts. Good that you take more care about your food. What you eat is what you are. ! enjoy the day.

[@jayantakarmakar8745]

I am not an American or European. I just watch this EV content cause I love it. After watching a lot of videos my take away is that non-tesla independent charging infrastructure sucks in America. You can watch Bjorn's video of all the car he has tested charging them is not an issue for him. Compare it with electrify America and you can understand why they hate anything which is not a tesla. MKBHD made a nice video about it. Porsche tycan is really a great car comparing it with Model S. But charging is where a tesla will beat tycan literally any time. Plus the fanboi thing is also a factor in America.

[@ignaciomainardi5501]

@@jayantakarmakar8745 Engineering Explained also showed some problems the ID.4 has in USA. Sandy Munro is now taking it apart and showing how it's worse in some aspects than a comparable Tesla.

[@pilotandthecity8527]

@@jayantakarmakar8745 Thanks for your opinion. As a European driver I indeed can confirm charging points and DC Fast and hyper charging is everywhere these days. Then, it makes sense Americans are complaining about charging and forget actually the car itself. Put thinks in a different perspective! Thanks again.

[@ignaciomainardi5501]

@@bernhardleopold6702 Engineering Explained found problems like the car navigation routing to slow AC chargers. I didn't say Sandy Munro found them.

[@burjydarsalaylove4144]

@@ignaciomainardi5501 The Engineering Explained review was a bit of a charade, his disingenuous approach towards the ID4 was quiet disappointing actually. Sandy Munro? Well people should themselves take a look at it and decide if it should be taken seriously, personally I think i don't think so.

[@luisag763]

Very good result for the ID3

[@mausje1612]

Love the Id3 Looking forward tot the id5

[@POTThaesslich]

The colour is beautiful.

[@nordishbynature268]

Nice Job! Ähm, for both car and driver... 😅 Thumbs up!!! And by the way, I really do appriciate your german "inserts" 🤩👍🖖

[@MrVeeBlog]

Older but cool beans. Thanks Bjorn

[@oisiaa]

Bjorn is probably the most experienced EV driver in the world. I bet he has driven more miles in more types of EVs than anyone else in the world.

[@stanrock01]

This data you provide is excellent!

[@daddycool3599]

Yo whats upppp. Grüße gehen raus mein Freund 😅

[@deleder557]

Schweinsund!!!!

[@max8286]

16:52 it was kaputt - LOL! - good trip, good mood, thanks!

[@panathaninf]

This is why you are the best EV reviewer, there is an elephant in the room about this version and you go and start with this, I had yet to see a vid with the back seats for the 77kwh version

[@hrrrrr2084]

There is a 5 seat version

[@panathaninf]

Yeah but it’s tour 5 priced ~47800, id3 is not such money car

[@colla555]

That's a good choice of grey color by VW. (meaning it's a rather beautiful grey tone)

[@philipptielmann]

excited to see how this improves with the rumored 170kW coming to MEB in summer.

[@Hiltsuk1]

Good looking little car

[@edmundhayes1840]

Wow. These are getting really quick now. Not much difference with the fossil time. Who could go that long without peeing anyway

[@Nobody_Famous]

EV’s are good for prostate health

[@harsimranbansal5355]

@@LuxKeiwoker “in Germany” most of the world isn’t “Germany”

@@harsimranbansal5355 in my experience the average speed in Germany _during summer_ can be devastatingly low. Not due to speed limits, but all the road works. Also the network of unlimited speed roads are not that well interconnected nowadays. Still a large network of 130 km/h roads I guess. So out of 1000 average Europeans how many would be limited by this EV speed? I would say less than 10.

[@telkm4r]

Great video as usual, it confirms to me I made a good choice with that car hahaha Infotainment actually was not sluggish until the latest update - which your demo ID4 may not have been updated to yet? - other owners may contradict me as I only rode the older software on a test ride and received my car with the update already installed I've made several simulations of road trips for when borders will open again and holding that 100kW charge on average could actually happen outside of EV-conscious Scandinavian countries bouncing from one Ionity charger to another in Switzerland, France or Germany! Governments and car makers are finally starting to make it happen

[@GSino]

The Best Value for money :) EV so happy :)

[@bobabout256]

Sehr gut average KPH. Impossible to achieve in the UK over this distance, so good information on what can be achieved. Thanks you are filling in the answers for me on ID3 or ID4. Is the distance calibration error due to tyre diameter? Summer tyre winter tyre true diameter!

[@laser_simon922]

6:35 Chris had the exact problem in the id.4

[@Suar32]

Funny that there's always an error on the infotainment screen on the ID3 and ID4

[@michelmelinot]

Awesome car! Future is looking great for EVs! Can't wait to see the future Tesla which will have similar size than ID3 (and better charging curve with its fat cells, imagine getting 200kW until 80%..!)

[@harsimranbansal5355]

@@abraxastulammo9940 lab tech rarely makes it to production. If they are producing it now in big quantities then it should be looked at, you can find cells that charge from 0-100 in 2 mins in the lab but it’s not realistic!

[@MadDaCube]

Any plans on trying the iX3?

[@Nobody_Famous]

13:30 🌭 flavoured 🍦 now there’s an idea 💡

[@harshdeepsingh6499]

When will you do the TAYCAN ?

[@weljenks]

Dang, a 4300 pound Golf!

[@erstwhilegrubstake]

I really wish they would bring the ID3 to Canada.

[@caerphoto]

Just imagine how quick the new Mercedes EQS will be :o

[@andersrasmussen1985]

Or The new Tesla plaid+ 😎

[@johnchartrand5910]

would like to see what the Taycan can do versus the EQS

[@fredpinczuk7352]

Sarcasm he! EQS has the worst acceleration out of all the EV's in its categories.

[@caerphoto]

@@fredpinczuk7352 so?

[@hrrrrr2084]

@@andersrasmussen1985 doesn't exist yet, delayed again

[@mikaelalatalo5251]

Would be interesting to see if the sw 3.0 can improve the figures

[@jockosboy17]

12:30 I find it entertaining he took the time to block out his speed on the HUD. haha

[@mister_jon_jon]

Sweden miss U too

[@ricokaden6562]

@Bjørn as far as I know, the ID3 Pro S has no ACC (at least not in Germany). How do you deal with that, especially when you do long distance traveling and switching often between cars that have / have no adaptive cruise control?

[@hagentrondheim3675]

Cool video. Can you do a separate video on all the calculations you do? For eksampel how to calculate the optimal charging stop length?

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2bXemujrbKAhKs

[@hagentrondheim3675]

@@bjornnyland 1000xtakk

[@VRGJozsef]

62 kwh ID3 in 1000 km -25 min, we need bigger battery?

[@kathawutboonsa654]

Why not do a filming channel as well for Thais interested in the 1000 km challenge?

[@KoseChris]

matpakke looks good

[@mikegipson1224]

I wager that when you do the Ioniq 5 or EV6 you will beat that by about an hour - i.e. 9hrs and 20 mins or there about... I might be wrong...or very right :)

[@trevorstafford1375]

Does tyre diameter affect reported distance accuracy?

[@StealthMaster123]

On the same car it will definitely make a difference. But normally from stock it will be adjusted correctly. 1,3 km deviation on a distance of 114 km is actually not that bad

[@korhojoa_]

VW reports two different bits of information based on where they're displayed, wheel circumference is different depending on if it's for the dash cluster or for distance calculation. So, yes, but this car seems to have the intended setup where the distance should be correct. What I've seen reports of is that the car will also correct speed information if it is allowed to be online to -3 km/h. If it's offline, it will use the normal calculations. Fun stuff. You would need to use external measurement tools with dead reckoning to have correct data in all cases.

[@andreaszallmann9485]

Please Bjorn, test all the taycans on 1000km

[@ouch1011]

I wish VW sold this in the US. I may have purchased it instead of model 3.

[@MrApexy]

The ID.4 has newer software version than the ID.3 hence the sluggishness!

[@SeriouslyJaded]

My ID.3 on the newest software update is not sluggish like this for sure.

[@bjornnyland]

Software 2.1 on both cars.

[@nickhall5279]

I had this problem with my id3 when I first collected it, even with latest software. I found out that cleaning the screen solved the problem. Mine works fine now. Really strange

[@foodsway]

Thanks for the video. Is the color of the id.3 blue stonewashed?

[@bjornnyland]

It's some blue color.

[@Gresteh]

Yes, that color is stonewashed blue

[@philipposkrizopoulos6597]

If ID3 had physical buttons & knobs and a better infotaiment, it would be my first choise.

[@chunsa5849]

Who puts 5 people in a car and go on a long trip, well, we do, when we take our three children on summer holiday.

We are thinking of going from Sweden to the Med sometime with a tent, and its a fairly common thing. I am in a few FB-groups about car trips (with or without a caravan) and the members range in the thousands, and that's of course a small part of everyone doing it. We did in a car + tent in our "youth" and it was great. We did also see many Scandinavians. I think the kids would really like it, sadly Iv'e developed a mild but weird case of car sickness which makes it a bit less tempting... :(

[@scratchy996]

Not bad, considering it's a hatchback, and it's not as aerodynamic as a Model 3. Maybe VW or Audi will make an aerodynamic sedan on this platform, I'm sure it will get a sub 10 hour time.

[@tzarcoal1018]

ID Vizzion is a concept car, that fullfills that role. It is marketed as the "electric passat successor" and will be produced in Emden, Germany. It is very likely that the car will come, but the exact details are not clear yet, I think the production version will be out in 2022, /2023. www.volkswagen.de/de/elektrofahrzeuge/elektrofahrzeugkonzepte/id-vizzion.html

[@JPetr94]

There's id5 coming (id4 "coupe" or "sportback" with sloping tail), with smallest and narrowest wheel set it has the chances to be very close to ID3 efficiency.

[@AOTanoos22]

EQS will smash 10 hours

[@scratchy996]

@@AOTanoos22 The Taycan is currently the fastest EV for long trips, but I'm talking about a small car on the MEB platform, something like the Audi A3 sedan.

[@kasmopaya2676]

Bjørn is on fire, since Millennium Falcon is back, which is impossible, because he is a true Viking and they are immune to fire. (;

[@riccardodanesin4531]

the only problem is the recharge station. you, in the north, have so many charging station with many power! in Italy only Tesla station. the other station are at about 11 or 22 kw and Ionity there is one or two with price out of market. so Tesla for the win in the sud of europe!

[@dandaly7305]

Can the ID 3 tow? Is the ID 4 better at towing? Assume utility trailer, 900 kg... Happy to see you perky. Going for my first vaccine jab in 5 hours...

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@dandaly7305]

@@bjornnyland Thank you!

[@dandaly7305]

@@AlanTov Thank you!

[@rubenghis4967]

Made your test realistic and add charging time

[@bjornnyland]

Charging time was already included, dude.

[@ksmith660]

Just need the super charger network (like Tesla) and it would be a really good car in the UK

[@eloirodrigue650]

Have you ever tried this kind of long distance test, but at a speed close to 135km/h? ( In this or in any other car) Are the consumptions, much haier then at 120km/h? Tks

[@bjornnyland]

Max speed limit is 110 km/h in Norway.

[@lukass.6609]

Losses ( Friction, Wind etc) are squared this means that to drive 240 instead of 120 you need 4x the power ( coming with battery and motor loss youll end up with 5 to 6 times consumption) so the consumption at 135 is a lot more than at 120 ( probably the same difference as 90-120

[@susihormon7821]

now i know...how a 4 seater looks like. Heavy stuff a MEB BEV...2020 kg 2 Dacias for one „Golf 2.0“...weight and price. Charging at 125 kW might be good stuff for the moment...will feel kind of old in 2022.

[@izpodpolja]

It will be 170kW later in the year though

[@susihormon7821]

@@izpodpolja I saw the e gmp curve....the average between 10-80 was around 180 kW. So it does not matter anymore when you plug in the car. If you feel like it at Soc 60% you do not lose time...that is freedom like in fuelcar.

[@izpodpolja]

@@susihormon7821 Sure that will be the strong suite of E-GMP (and wouldn't be surprised a year later another contender will come with yet stronger characteristics - that's how things will happen). In general cars will depreciate rather quickly because of the pace of technical advancment

[@alexlo7708]

Why new car model is less efficient than the old model?

[@bjornnyland]

Lower outside temperature.

[@reynoldichi1090]

Good ev.

[@MrRobix13]

big mexican in my mouth -bjorn 2021 it's a joke please no ban

Oh, yeah, this video is so NSFW. :)

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Despite the obvious software issues, the ID are well built and perform really well

[@kevlard]

Performance is fine but well built? How did you come to that conclusion? There are numerous examples of ID3's with built quality issues like uneven panel gaps and creaking/rattling interiors.

[@kevlard]

@@AlanTov Here's just one example. Just ask if you need more: www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/elektroauto/vw-id-3-qualitaetsprobleme-test-verarbeitung-elektronik/ Or in Englsh if you prefer: www.teslarati.com/tesla-rival-volkswagen-id3-fails-german-review/

[@PUNISHERMARKO]

May I ask how much do you pay for kWh on those Ionity chargers in Norway? Or what are the prices compare to UK. Thank you

[@PUNISHERMARKO]

@@abraxastulammo9940 thank you. Is that ionity club some kind of subscription service which you have to pay monthly fee or is it free. And last question if you are not in ionity club do you have to pay more per kWh? Thank you

[@PUNISHERMARKO]

@@abraxastulammo9940 Ionity chargers in UK cost 70p/kW... so to compare this to NOK it's 8.16/kW and you said 1.60....that's 5 times more per every kW....rip off

[@PUNISHERMARKO]

@@abraxastulammo9940 nevermind just looking at the website you sent me. IONITY: Kr 8.40 / kWh that's crazy or IONITY: NOK 1.60 / kWh with Monthly fee: NOK 109 / month which I worked out is very good deal! Shame there is nothing like this in uk

[@philj212]

what color is that? scale silver?

[@bjornnyland]

Some blue stuff.

[@jasonw98]

Pricing too close to TM3 LR

[@rradse4285]

when id3 77kwh with 5-seat will come？

[@eberxeber9310]

You can already order it as 5 seater, at least in Germany. Mine is supposed be delivered mid May. Unfortunately, there are some other restrictions, e.g. no glass roof.

[@ikocheratcr]

I am not sure if I am missing something, but why you stopped at 990km and not 1000km?

[@GreenDriveIndia]

Meter is underreporting by 1%

[@Air-ic279]

U did for sure not watch the whole video. Check at 1:05 min. ;-)

[@laser_simon922]

Now we need the Polestar 2 Single motor long range with heatpump test...

[@nakfan]

Are they gonna put a heat pump in the Polestar 2?

[@laser_simon922]

@@nakfan Yeah, have a look ar there website, since today you can get 3 different models of the polestar 2

[@EddyKruissink]

Maybe redo the Tesla's with new charging speeds (V3) too this summer (or even right now)?

[@bjornnyland]

Pointless because there are too few V3 on the route.

[@mathewrussell1533]

Its such a shame our govt is such a shit show here in Australia and we will never see these sort of awesome cars.

[@ventzislavdimov6792]

Please check for us if the battery are radioactive. Greetings from Dimov, Bulgaria

[@bjornnyland]

It's not.

[@johnchartrand5910]

Taycan will be the fastest

[@kinimod2712]

Nice work Voltswagon! 👍☺️ Infotainment aber leider nicht gut 😅

[@nukularpictures]

Got a lot better already. So I am quite hopeful for the car that they will improve it the same way Tesla does. Would be a nice change for once.

[@ace773]

no views, 7 likes hmmm

[@kiprasmilaknis5725]

Ghosts like Bjorn's videos...

[@pilotandthecity8527]

that is happening when you upload the video a minute before... what is your point here?

[@bro.100]

shame that it can't just look like a regular car, like a Golf for inctance. it would be briliant if Model 3, or even better, rumored Model 2 has simmilar amount of internal space as id3

[@tzarcoal1018]

well the shape is the reason why there is so much space inside. The hood is extremly short in ID cars, so that more length is for the inside of the car, if you have a more classic hatcback shape liek the golf, you loose space on the interieur. And about the design, taste is subjective. I think the ID.3 does not look that bad and does a good compromise between looking futuristic and looking normal.

[@bro.100]

yes, I understand it and I actually like the shape of it, but the plastics looks so cheap and 'not solid'. i3 also has plastic panel but it looks better to me. it's also regarding the interior. weird touchpanels, loose screen mount, cheap plastics, even weird window opening button is preventing lot of ppl from buing it.

[@bro.100]

the shape of it is actually the thinkg I like about it. (I'm 1.90 m an my brother is 1.96 m tall)

[@tzarcoal1018]

@@bro.100 The weird plastic thing between hood and windshield is something i also dislike. I think it is for aerodynamics, but it just looks stupid. But apart form that the outside is good imo, i don't think the BMW i3 is better in that way. Yes the inside is too "glossy" imo, i don't like that, but at least it is "organized" in the i3 it looks way to messy. If they would swap out some of the glossy black parts with less glossy ones, that would be ideal, but somehow "piano black" is still seen as premium, even tho many people dislike it. But i really have to see it in person. I have i have heard anything from "catastrophe" to "much better than anyone says" regarding the interieur. Maybe VW will change the materials, a little bit. They will not change it completely, but they have swapped out some materials in the past, when too many people complained about the haptics or the design of a new car (Golf 5 and Golf 7 i believe).

[@g3rm]

@@tzarcoal1018 The problem with ID.3 interior is that it looks cheap even though it's actually pretty solid. After seeing one in my local dealership I can say it made a pretty bad first impression but after some time it didn't seem like a big deal. The one thing that is beyond stupid is a piano black door handle. I'm still considering buying one though.

[@stanley1483]

That software sucks.

[@denimax2014]

I personally hate slow lagging Infotainment 🤮

[@hrrrrr2084]

VW ID3 Will do under 10 hours in better weather. And it's cheap!

[@fredpinczuk7352]

VW should have hired the same software engineer that invented the Diesel Defeat feature, and used their skills to fix this car shitty software. They were smart enough to fool everyone for 3+ years. These clowns they have now need to go back to school or go work at BMW.

[@zocker1600]

damn you are disillusioned if you think that a single person can fix those issues hahaha, currently VW is hiring over 400 high payed software developers, with currently around 500 working on the brand new VW.OS The software will improve big time, especially if you look how the state of it was not even 4 month ago.