Waffle in a Hyundai Kona EV and How many electric cars can I spot on my short journey

[@definitelynotkwacker]

5 years ago when I first got an EV it was quite exciting to see another EV. These days it's a rare day I don't see one in the first 100 yards as I drive from my house. Often I'll stop at the lights and the car in front and behind are EV's. But these days I'd lose count within the first couple of miles.

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[@simonreeves2017]

Hi Grouch, greetings from Oxford. I know where all the EVs no one can sell or even give away are being hidden, because I have found most of them. They are being hidden on the roads around Oxford, sometimes in front of me, sometimes to the side of me, sometimes behind me, but this is definitely where they are being hidden! 🤣🤣🤣

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[@waynecartwright-js8tw]

Went on my first electric bus there , really smooth and lacking vibration

[@Bunyip_Studios]

I'm a bus driver, I do a school minibus run from Gillingham to Sevenoaks, I loose count of how many EVs we see on the route, predominantly Tesla's, but plenty of other brands as well

[@grouchthatbarx]

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[@ISuperTed]

Does make I laugh when people post that no one is buying them. Round my way (North Somerset), there are dozens on every journey and all over my village now. Sure, it’s going to vary across the country, but it’s increasing rapidly now for sure. Chargers springing up everywhere now too.

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[@Thetyrerepairer]

Last year in my road we had one EV, Who happened to be my neighbour. Now we have nine cars including mine.

[@Brinslade]

In Shenzhen there are driverless buses. My son used them last time he was there in summer, and he said they were very good and a smooth drive. The idea of driverless buses makes more sense than driverless cars, as it reduces the space taken up on the road; especially in cities.

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[@paulprosser1289]

I’m now on my fourth ev since 2016. Now driving a Megane. Amazed how many evs I now see here in the Rhondda. That Volvo looked like an XC30.

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[@davideyres955]

Subscribed because of the accent.

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[@Joe-lb8qn]

I picked a Tesla up this week. Maybe 100-150 cars in the car park to go out that day. Definitely not being hidden.

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[@steveknight878]

I drive to Barnstaple from Chulmleigh once a week - a distance of 21 miles each way. I generally see between 6 and a dozen EVs that I recognise - even though I'm not looking out for them terribly hard. I'm sure I miss some because I don't recognise them as EVs, and probably miss some hybrids. Given that those that I see are going the other way than me, then it would be reasonable to assume that there are about twice as many on the road at the time (assuming there are similar numbers travelling in the same direction as I am). Definitely increased in numbers over the last 3 or 4 years.

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[@waynecartwright-js8tw]

Hopefully buying my wife a Hyundai Inster next year. Time to keep the sales up.

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[@Jaw0lf]

Had a Kia E Niro 4+ for 3 years and now have a Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland. I must say that I do love the car and the supercharger network makes it so easy to charge when I am away from home. You are right to review the type of car you like as more and more options of great EV's are arriving. My Tesla suits me perfectly as I love technology and it has made life easier for me. There are also lots of ICE cars around as they were the only option viable for the past 100 years. EV's are relatively new and good ones with a 200 mile any weather range in the last 5 years. So yes there will be less EV's on the road, but as figures have shown each month more and more are arriving. ICE are also still being sold but their number sold will drop over the next year or two as EV's become the norm. 4 years ago I barely saw another EV, but now I am often following one passing them every few minutes going the other way. There are difinately more EV's on our roads, not less. Always love your ramblings, great video!

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[@rodden1953]

About 3 or 4 years ago Fully Charged went to a new housing estate north of Cardiff somewhere where they were building 240 hoses that were all with home batteries, car chargers and solar with Ground Source heating and Community EVs that were pluged in to chargers for people to share i would love to see what its like now everyone is moved in . if you know where it is i think it would make a good video , i lose count now of EVs too many to count .

[@grouchthatbarx]

I remember that video, I will have to look at that again to see where it is.

[@grouchthatbarx]

It's Parc Eirin, Rhondda Cynon Taff...Only 15 miles from me

[@rodden1953]

@@grouchthatbarx That great Grouch not too far it would be interesting to see how many EVs there are there ,Thanks

[@kimedwards3937]

When driving our EV we both say how many EV we will see on our journey. The number keeps going up. We drive Tesla model 3 red best EV ever !!!.

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[@alanforester730]

" OMG, I hide our car" at rear of house when charging on a 16A Socket usually over night. Behind gates !! We do have a 7kw charger at front for those rarely Quicky charges. Brill Vids Fully Subscribed n thumb up every one

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[@josephmwilliams6754]

I play golf with a group of about 8/9 others . We have 3 ev's + 1 hybrid between us . I would say on an average day there would be at least 6 ev's on the car park . When I bought mine 18months back there was a shortage , now supply is good and so are thd deals available . Tesla model 2 is still in the wings and due next year . Never spoken to ANYONE who wants a self driving car

[@grouchthatbarx]

I thought Model 2 was out as Elon Musk said it's 'pointless' to build a $25,000 Tesla for human drivers.

[@josephmwilliams6754]

@grouchthatbarx Googled it , deferred to build the cyber cab . Apparently the negative comments about model 2 were to persuade customers not to hang back from buying model 3

[@DavidPlayfair]

I've noticed more and more EVs whenever I go for a drive around these parts of South East Essex. It must be just a local anomaly as they aren't selling, apparently. In fact, I'm told, they can't even give them away! ;)

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[@dogbreath6974]

I think the robotaxi would be a good thing if you could call one to your location, and when it arrives you take control of it until your finished then it returns automatically.

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[@Brian-om2hh]

It is rather curious that one of the Not Geoff clan felt EV's were rotting away in dealerships. Presumably, the atmospheric conditions causing those EV's to rot away, would also have a similar effect on ICE cars in stock at the said dealerships? Unless of course ICE cars don't rot......although the Mini van I had back in the 70's certainly did.

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[@MrNeeds]

I live on Anglesey and I've been driving the Hyundai Kona 2021 model since 2022, due an upgrade in February, I'm seeing the same trends up north, it started off slow, you'd rarely see an EV on the road, but the more I drive, the more I see, near enough 30% of the cars I see on the road are EVs not counting farming vehicles, I took a visit down to my sisters house in Manchester a few weeks ago, the ratio is more like 50/50 for EVs there, not sure where these people are not seeing EVs, they must be living in the Atlantic Ocean, no wonder they don't see any EVs, they just see Diesel ships.

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[@ziploc2000]

A car with no steering wheel or accelerator and brake pedal is a harder sell than Musk thinks. It's one thing to choose to let your car take over and sit there keeping an eye on it, and quite another having no control over it whatsoever if something goes pear-shaped. Of course most of us don't seriously believe the thing will ever hit the road, and if it does we'll be seeing news stories about the accidents it causes. I watched video earlier from EV Spinner, driving their "FSD" Tesla, and they disliked FSD enough that they won't be renewing their monthly subscription. Misreading speed signs, unexplained stops, slows and goes, and when they set the cruise control it would inexplicably drop the speed a mph or two every few minutes. I enjoy the experience of driving a car, but not the noise and smell of an ICE car. I had a noisy car, it didn't go faster than my EV, it my annoyed everyone in the process. James May has a sensible take on EVs (unlike Clarkson who likes ICE cars so much he never bothered to actually learn how to fix an engine). May has a Tesla for daily driving, and various ICE cars when he wants nostalgia. He also recognizes the barriers for fuller adoption, and the need for a cheap people's EV.

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[@Thetyrerepairer]

Most of the KZbinrs who knock EVs have a financial interest in ice cars.

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[@garage6346]

I love my ID.3, but as you say: everytime I press a button on the touchscreen that infotainment takes a moment of silence for Herbert Diess. The Hyundai infotainment is lightyears ahead of that thing.

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[@javelinXH992]

You killed me at the Diess pause of respect! 😂😂

[@bellshooter]

When I got my first EV in 2017 , we Leaf owners used to wave to each other...not any more, they are just cars with electric drives, nothing special anymore.

[@grouchthatbarx]

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[@ClanMidgard]

The infotainment system on the ID 4 is really awful, but the ID Buzz is a lot better. Here in Northern Ireland (where the literal worst charging network is... by far) we live in an apartment block (so no home charger, and we rely on the public network entirely), and we are always seeing other Electric vehicles on the road. In the last 18 months it has gone from seeing one every half hour, to one every other minute at the start of the year, to once every 30 seconds now. They are far more prevalent than Diesels here now. Still getting a LOT of Hybrids unfortunately, but people are beginning to switch over.

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[@colinrobinson7869]

Love your rambling videos reminds me of the late great Eric Morcombe quote, I can play all the notes but not necessary in the right order, unquote. Plus agree with you on Tesla cars Mr Musk eyes have been turned by Trump and the company could be left behind by BYD and the like.

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[@joycehigginbotham2006]

Most electric cars now have a green band on the number the plate

[@Brian-om2hh]

I believe it is optional, you don't have to have it.....although I understand it is for the benefit of ULEZ cameras, to avoid being charged a fee.

[@rugbygirlsdadg]

They only started in December 2020. Any EVs first registered before then won't have one. You can buy one if you have a BEV first registered before then.

[@timoliver8940]

Self adhesive Green stripes for number plates are £1 for a pack of 2 from Amazon.

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[@garysmith5025]

​@@Brian-om2hhI thought all the emissions zones worked purely on ANPR and reference DVLA data.

[@truebrit3670]

My favorite comment from Not-Geoffs is akin to "My aunt's uncle's brother's godson has an EV and he hates it. Hes going back to diseasel" Apart ftom the obvious lies being told, if it was true - 93% say never go back, so 7% would, where on Earth to they think their EV is going? It doesnt evaporate. It becomes another persons new EV as they make the leap to better, cheaper, cleaner driving.

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[@barryrathbone]

Had my ev since January and love it. Couldn’t buy a Tesla at any price whilst nut job Elon is involved!

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[@simonreeves2017]

Yes, what has happened to Elon? 5 years ago he was my hero. From hero to zero. Perhaps all that drug abuse has addled his brain. Such a shame.

[@bellshooter]

Robotaxi is useful for short journeys in town, not cost effective for taxi drivers. Most people need a personal transport to do daily stuff.

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[@oliver90owner]

Is any driverless car going to be used by taxi drivers? I don’t think so!

[@scotisland]

Can't see the problem myself, plug it in, charge it up, drive it off.

[@grouchthatbarx]

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[@ziploc2000]

I subscribed to notGeoff for a couple of weeks, until his constant poisoned bias against EVs drove me away. His buddy the MacMaster also seem to be trying to downtalk EVs all the time, despite driving one. I enjoy car-fixing videos like the Car Wizard channel, even if they're ICE cars. To him EVs are still cars, they work well for many people, and are far cheaper to run.

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[@oliver90owner]

I don’t watch their videos. Doesn’t stop me from reading a few comments and replying to them. Just stirs them up a bit. The comments are likely removed by them, I suppose, but I don’t really care a jot

[@rugbygirlsdadg]

The car wizard should be guaranteed to put folks off ice cars. Most of the repairs just wouldn't happen to an EV.

[@ziploc2000]

@@rugbygirlsdadg It would have been interesting if The Grand Tour had done a special with an electric car where they had a charging van as part of the team. When they go on these long trips they have to take petrol with them, so it only seems fair to compare if you also take a mobile charging station. Their cars almost always break down due to mechanical issues from being shaken to pieces (or immersed in rivers), and a really tough test for an EV in comparison would be neat.

[@michaelgoode9555]

Musk has I'm afraid become a greedy right winger. He's more interested in politics now. I'll not be buying a Tesla because I am "too woke"!!! 🤣

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[@paulbuckingham15]

Musk has stayed in exactly the same place. It's others who started at the same point as him who have moved left.

[@Thetyrerepairer]

Most of the KZbinrs who knock EVs have a financial interest in them,

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[@ianmac51]

FSD, the way Elon sells it is a bit like Fusion Reactors, tomorrow and we all know tomorrow never comes, or at least not as quick as the Snake Oil Salesman tells you.

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[@leslie19611]

14:56 you missed a Mercedes EQA (or EQB) waiting to join the roundabout. Very poor performance :)

[@grouchthatbarx]

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[@milohobo9186]

I an unable to identify electric cars just by glancing at them while I drive with the exception of Teslas (though I still can't just tell an S, 3, X, or Y apart). I try to look for an exhaust pipe, but by then I need to bring my attention back to the road.

[@rtfazeberdee3519]

If you are in the UK, most EVs have a green stripe on the left hand side of the number plate

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[@steveknight878]

@@rtfazeberdee3519 You learn something new every day. I never noticed that, despite having one.

[@javelinXH992]

3 is the typical model you’ll see around. S looks vaguely similar, but had some silver trim around the front. Y is a 3 that either someone pumped up with a tyre inflator or has eaten too many leek pies. You probably won’t see an X, they are not common over here. That’s how I quickly tell them apart when out and about.

[@peterjol]

There is absolutely nothing that makes electric cars stand out as being different to an ICE vehicle...I would never notice when there are more or less of them on the roads.

[@grouchthatbarx]

I'm an EV spotter 😊

[@pdecaux]

Most have a green bar on the left-hand edge of the numberplate. I believe this also includes hybrids, though, but a good starting point. I still think they should have chosen a different colour, though, so as not to wind up the anti-EV brigade!

[@Brian-om2hh]

Despite Elon Musk's comments, some car makers are beginning to introduce sub £25k electric cars. We have the £15k Dacia Spring, the £22k Citroen EC 3 (or whatever it's called), and the £22k Hyundai Inster, with similarly priced EV's in the pipeline from other manufacturers too... Elon Musk isn't right about everything..... But then neither is Agent Orange (Trump), so they ought to get along just fine....

[@grouchthatbarx]

I reckon they will fall out eventually, as their ego's will cause friction.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@grouchthatbarx Well yes Grouch. Trump the EV hater, and Elon Musk, the billionaire who owns a major electric car manufacturer.... What could go wrong? Mr Musk could be making a big mistake getting involved in Trump's politics.....

[@oliver90owner]

Wait another 5 years and ALL new cars will be electric🙂🙂🙂

[@javelinXH992]

@@Brian-om2hh There are some advantages for Elon. Trump wants to end subsidies for EVs and Tesla are the only ones who don’t need them. It will hurt the competition, but not Tesla. Plus Trump plans to rip up a lot of other legislation Elon doesn’t like as it gets in the way of his business model. I wonder how long they can put up with each other?

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@javelinXH992 Although not everyone aspires to Tesla ownership. I looked at a Model 3 pre-pandemic, and the shoddy paintwork, build quality, and the lack of a hatchback, made my decision to walk away relatively easy. I bought another brand, which offers a 7 year warranty. The often cited Tesla Supercharger network - as good as it may be - is fairly irrelevant to me, as I don't often do longer trips.

[@Notoevs]

Again!! Car park and housing estate full of ICE and hardly any ev's😂😂😂😂😂

[@grouchthatbarx]

The amount of EV's on the road correspond to the amount of EV's being sold. The amount of EV's being sold is more than last year, hence more EV's on the road. I know it's a difficult concept for you to wrap your head around, but you will get there eventually. If you enjoy hating EV's then you are in luck as there are plenty more to come.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@grouchthatbarx I wonder whether he'll still be chuckling once the availability of petrol becomes less easy than at present? Probably no more than 10 years away.....