Waggler float fishing - tell tale shot

[@markandrew1067]

Cheers ...great explanations. Bought all of your books! Great!

[@Hawks1980]

Thank you for these videos, I am returning to angling after about 20 years and was never really very good and we didn't have KZbin back then...lol. I'm finding your videos really easy to follow and you explain things very well. Many fishing videos are more about plugging expensive gear for more advanced anglers so it's really nice to see someone explaining the basics really well to us newbies.

[@AmateurAngling]

Thank you very much for your comment, it is much appreciated.

[@yourtubeNmytube]

Omg! I just love the way you present your videos. Complete oozing of information and humbleness. Please keep uploading more videos on float fishing. Thank you.

[@AmateurAngling]

Thank you very much indeed. I have a couple of films in the pipe line with more on the way. I fish all year round so I will do my best to keep them coming with different methods, species and seasonal tips.

[@yourtubeNmytube]

+Amateur Angling What's the best distance to place the telltale shot from the hook according to you. If you could say it in "inches".

[@AmateurAngling]

I use an arbitrary 7 inches to start off with and then see how it goes.

[@Rockwell21]

i'm taking my 7yr old fishing for the first time tmoro, i've never fished in my life but he asked to do it. i've just been out and bought everything i think i need and am now cramming in as many youtube float fishing guides as i can in one night lol. thanks for the help.

[@AmateurAngling]

The best tip I can give you is to feed the swim, little and often. I hope you both have a good day, best of luck.

[@Rockwell21]

Amateur Angling had a great day, thanks. took both my kids in the end, they both caught a few small roach each so they're now hooked lol. what we realised pretty quickly was the reels are pretty poor. we picked up 7ft basic (£10) rods from go outdoors. the rods are perfect for what they need but the reels are poorly made. can you recommend a reel?

[@AmateurAngling]

I can only suggest you look for a size 25 (2500) or 30 (3000) reel which is a general purpose size. Expect to spend £20 to £30, but over £50 for better quality. Hope this helps.

[@UUL442]

Very Clear and Concise Information - Thanks for all your help for guy that has not fished for 60 years - Mike S

[@AmateurAngling]

You are very welcome, best of luck.

[@kalyandasgupta5872]

The best tutorials I have ever seen.Clear and just the thing I always wanted to know.Thank you a lot for enlighting me.hope to learn more from masters like you.

[@AmateurAngling]

Thank you very much for your comment, much appreciated. Best of luck.

[@kevinpeters9867]

Brilliant tutorial. This is the best explanation on how to use these floats i have seen so far. I'm new to this method of fishing and there has been a bit of a learning curve. Cheers and tight lines from the states.

[@AmateurAngling]

You are very welcome. best of luck.

[@bepolite6961]

Just returned to angling after years of other sports, (shooting mostly) your videos show me just how little I knew and how much of my previous angling success was pure luck!!!!!! I am learning so much from you and enjoying every one of your presentations. Thanks so much can not wait to get back onto the water.

[@AmateurAngling]

Thank you for your comment, best of luck.

[@Barry6888]

I’ve got to say you are a fantastic angler

[@tedwrink]

Great video that answered a lot of questions I have been asking myself lately. Thank you

[@AmateurAngling]

Glad it was helpful. Best of luck with your fishing.

[@clivebrooker1]

Thank heavens I found your channel, invaluable information brilliantly presented.

[@AmateurAngling]

Glad it was helpful, best of luck.

[@SuperBoots87]

Thanks so much for taking the time to provided such interesting videos. I nearly enjoy these as much as being out on the lake.

[@AmateurAngling]

Thank you very much.

[@falten2]

Very very well explained and presented. Very instructive and to the point. Lovin' it

[@AmateurAngling]

Thanks very much.

[@Barry6888]

Where have you gone your videos are fantastic can you please put more videos up I’ve learned so much from you

[@baiaishahlapasam8717]

Wow! Excellent tutorial display,I have never seen.Thank you.

[@jurgenlandrie1380]

thanks for such a detailed and well demonstrated explanation!

[@TimAger-j7w]

I haven’t fished since I was a kid some really good tips very easy to understand 👍

[@JayJRockers]

Love the knowledge and videos and so soothing to listen to at the same time as learning. As a newbie angler with only very basic knowledge and skills this has helped me a lot to weight me line essentially better and more effective. Thank you 😎

[@AmateurAngling]

My pleasure and thanks for watching, best of luck.

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[@tbxdspider]

Excellent video. I'm a newbie to lake fishing and always left scratching my head as to why everyone around me is catching but not me! Definitely taking this advice to my next trip tomorrow. Very well presented video and actually really looking forward to giving it a go.

[@AmateurAngling]

Best of luck for tomorrow, thanks for your comment.

[@davidcoulling9521]

Excellent video and very helpful so many thanks

[@pdcmoore]

Excellent information in your videos. Particularly suited to the newer angler, but with some gems for the more experienced too. When I used to do tests like this, I went to the extreme of having an aquarium and watching fish take the bait and watch the result on the tackle. One would be surprised on how many fish could take the bait fully into their mouths and give no indication at all.

[@AmateurAngling]

Just like you I wanted to understand because once you do it makes such a difference. Yet this very day I blanked trying to catch Chub, oh well there's always next time! Thanks for your comments.

[@grahamehamilton6699]

Perfect information and great demos. thanks

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have just subbed to your channel ! found your videos to be very helpful as have not done any course fishing in over 15 years (did sea fishing instead) and im amazed at how much I have forgotten so thank you from a reborn course fisherman and keep up the very good work

[@AmateurAngling]

Thank you for your support, best of luck.

[@lexingtonlad5745]

This is so informative. Thanks.

[@AmateurAngling]

Glad it was helpful, best of luck.

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[@jim5548]

Your videos are great, thanks!

[@AmateurAngling]

You're welcome!

[@tobyhayward9592]

Brilliant instruction clear and simple thank you !!

[@AmateurAngling]

You are very welcome, best of luck.

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[@AmateurAngling]

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[@AmateurAngling]

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[@AmateurAngling]

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[@phr3683]

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[@AmateurAngling]

My pleasure, I hope it helps.

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[@AmateurAngling]

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[@AmateurAngling]

My pleasure, thank you for commenting. Best of luck.

[@quackchung]

I have, rightly or wrongly always had the tell tale just touching the floor, with around 6 inches laying on as a starting point. I make sure the tell tale has just enough weight to sink the float if the fish picks up the slack and the tell tale would most likely swing in a downward arc to pull the float under, or if picked up directly inline with the mainline, It would register a lift bite. I have never had any problems with this set up, with all species of lake fish. I must add I mainly use this set up on lakes with an antenna float, so the tell tale shot needn't be too large to sink the float or spook the fish with a larger weight. It's very rare I have to use a disgorger, or miss bites. I do tend to slightly lengthen this laying on if I do miss bites, and can be lengthened up to a foot if I'm targeting bigger fish such as tench, especially in shallow water to help with line bumping etc.

[@AmateurAngling]

Your description sounds like a Driftbeater rig. Thanks for your comment, best of luck.

[@quackchung]

Thanks for your kind reply AA.Yes I meant to mention the added bonus of anchoring and aiding a static bait. The above set up doesn't work well in a driftbeater scenario, I find the tell tale shot has to be larger in most cases, which doesn't work with an antenna float too well due to the thinner tip's low resistance to the surface tension. Too light a tell tale's weight and it drags, snags, dunks and pops the float back up. Finding the perfect weighted balance is virtually impossible with an antenna float in a drift beating scenario. Note, this set up would be predominantly used for calm lake and silver fish, due to the antenna float, as we know you could just use a lolly ice stick and eyed lead for anything bigger. I suppose I was querying the actual role, purpose and operation of the tell tale shot in more detail. In my case I find I use the tell tale shot's weight to indicate my bait has been picked up with no line interference. Theorising that it is easier and more convenient to eat a boiled sweet laying on the ground whilst one's hands are tied behind their back, than a boiled sweet suspended in front of one's face...Thoughts?

[@AmateurAngling]

This film describes the purpose of the tell tale shot when used with a straight waggler or insert waggler. Can you tell us how you rig these ?

[@quackchung]

I too am an amateur angler and I suppose I use the tell tale shot pretty much as you have described the professional doing, using paste as part of the floats overall cocking weight. In the pro situation, he/she knows instantly when a fish has picked up their bait by mostly indicating a lift bite. He or she may then choose to strike immediately, or optionally count a few seconds if they find they miss a few on striking. The pun "Tight lines" also sums up the thinking behind the paste as weight set up, it makes a rig extremely sensitive to the best of it's ability, eking out every bit of movement from hook to reel. Although you do have to consider the pastes weight, buoyancy of float & surface tension on the float tip for best performance, as a tiny, low weighted paste bait in deep water will hardly register a lift bite on a thick tipped float. But this is how a pro and most accomplished fishermen would think, I'm sure the beginner reading this would be thinking this was too OTT, and for pleasure fishing they'd be right. In my personal scenario I suppose I use the tell tale shot as overall cocking weight instead of paste, this will mostly indicate a sinking float due to the 6 inch laying on, and hopefully easier bait take up for the fish (un-like trying to eat an apple suspended on string situation) plus it negates the pause strike fix the pro may incorporate, thus theoretically a better hit rate. For many years I've only seen the tell tale used as your concise description, or as earlier mentioned drift beating. I think your vids and descriptions are excellent and was indirectly hoping your well thought out and knowledgeable input on whether my tell tale usage was actually a good thing or bad, as typed in my first comment "Rightly or wrongly" You may hit me with a blindingly obvious Eureka moment, expressed by my "Dohhh!...Why didn't I see that" and my long time thinking was actually flawed? As this has never been seen as the "norm" for bite indication, only drift beating (which doesn't actually work well with antenna floats.) At the very least, your description of paste being used for overall cocking weight has perfectly explained my tell tale shot purpose, with laying on length being negotiable. So to answer your question. I find a tell tale shot suspended 6 inches above a just rested bait less sensitive, than using the tell tale weight for submerging the float for bite indication. The rest of the shotting pattern, or more relevant, dropper shot, would be set by conditions of the water and weather plus where the fish were feeding in the column, shirt, bulk...etc. As noted, I do have good hook placement and rate so have stuck to this approach. By no means does this post wish you, or the established practice change whatsoever, but is merely my own conclusion and works best on still and relatively shallow waters up to 6 feet especially with an antenna float. Deeper still water with a long antenna float and equidistant shirt style droppers is a good way to fish through the water column on the drop, by counting how long each dropper registers on the tip will indicate an interception and also a good example of how each weight effects the spacing on the antenna after settling.

[@AmateurAngling]

Thank you for your telling us your thoughts and experience it is much appreciated. Best of luck.

[@klyxi.]

thankyou very much for this, im a very new to fishing and all went well, however on one trip i had 2 very deep hooked fish and it quiet bothered me as i have no interest in harming said fish, after watching this i know exactly what was wrong with my set up! thanks again

[@AmateurAngling]

My pleasure and thank you for your comment, good luck with your fishing.

[@nigelstannard7443]

Great video 😊.....I personally would have a bit bigger gap near float.....bulk of no 4 (important to be fixed over half the depth.....2 no 6 ....1 no 8 on hook length.....4in over depth 😊.....worked for me

[@67spoon]

Good info thanks

[@stephenstocks1074]

Is there any plans on setting up and fishing a slider float

[@AmateurAngling]

Not at this time, maybe next season. Thanks for asking, best of luck.

[@2wheelsrbest327]

Thanks a lot very useful information. After 55 yrs of not fishing since aged 11 I never realised how much there is to long. Been out three times so far but only caught fish first time so I am guessing I am not getting depth right. Can I ask do I need to add weight to a loaded waggler and go through the process you describe. Thanks again.

[@AmateurAngling]

Plumb the depth with only the float stops holding the float in place. This time of year, set the depth so that the last four inches of line are laying on the bottom. Usually loaded wagglers have around two thirds of the total shot carrying capacity built in. So you will need additional shot down the line to properly cock the float, one of which will be the tell tale. With four inches layed-on start with the tell tale seven inches from the hook (three inches off the bottom). Feed the swim little and often. Hope this helps.

[@2wheelsrbest327]

Thanks a lot I will do what you say. There is definitely a lot to learn

[@shanenolan4269]

Great video. I currently have a 4BB insert waggler. What shot pattern would you recommend? Shot numbers, spacing on the line?

[@AmateurAngling]

I'm working on a film about waggler fishing right now which I will publish by the weekend. The float you mention is a sensitive still-water float, have a look at www.amateurangling.com/straight-waggler/ there is a rig sheet you can download. It is for a straight waggler float, but the same patterns will work with an insert, use a No6 as the tell tale.

[@shanenolan4269]

+Amateur Angling thanks so much. Looking forward to your next video. Pervious videos helped me net 6 roach yesterday just under a pound each. Cheers

[@AmateurAngling]

Thats brilliant, thanks for saying so I really appreciate it.

[@Azam_Pakistan]

15 feet plus ? How can I cast with 15+ feet of line hanging out of the tip ring of the rod?

[@joshpass92]

Slider float with a sliding stop knot

[@JohnSmith-zn6pm]

Thanks , it makes sense but isn't real explained anywhere, can you help me with making pole rigs, i have inherited a lot of old pole rigs but the hooks need to be changed and the line is old. Thank You

[@AmateurAngling]

Pole fishing is not something I cover at the moment, but you may find the following video of use. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eV7KmKhpYraEj7M&t Best of luck.

[@Baxter771]

What type of waggler would you use on a river with hardly any pace but deep? I need to buy some and I’m not sure which to buy. Thank you

[@AmateurAngling]

How deep ?

[@Baxter771]

Amateur Angling hi, it’s approximately 12/14ft

[@AmateurAngling]

As the water is deeper than a standard 13ft float rod is long, it's probably easier to use slider float. Something like a DJK peacock straight or insert slider. This film by Alan Scotthorne may be of use. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZWpXmyGZ9t8o7s#t=27.840395. Best of luck.

[@Baxter771]

Amateur Angling thanks I do have a 14ft rod. Will watch the video.

[@TheConstantAngler]

Fantastic video. Just do not see videos on this

[@johnoakley3068]

Just an observation, if you were "laying on" would your shot not be on the lake bed, rather than an inch or two above it like you demonstrated in this video? When I've been "laying on" I use a gap between 4 and 8 inches between the tell tale shot and hook, with the shot firmly on the lakebed.

[@AmateurAngling]

What I say is "with the line laying on the bottom" in the context of waggler fishing, as opposed to "laying on" which is a different rig. Best of luck.

[@johnoakley3068]

My error, and my apologies, I thought you went from Waggler fishing to demonstrating how to "Lay on", I'll pay more attention in future, lol.

[@samanthameredith87]

Hiya , do you have a video for putting a fishing line on a reel . This is my first time learning fishing . i do have all the basic equipment but no one is helping me as i'm getting a bit frustrated everyone keeps laughing at me . From Samantha

[@AmateurAngling]

No I don't, but I did find this one for you which is at least correct. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6G1oGOgobmWpLc

[@Enpassantful]

I always thought the tell tale shot should be sitting on the bottom to stop the float from drifting out of position every few minutes, on still water ie, and to make sure the bait is actually sitting on the bottom where you want it.

[@AmateurAngling]

When windy conditions cause an under tow, using tell tale shot as an anchor is common practise. Best of luck with your fishing.

[@waihiki]

👍🐟

[@imspartacus4909]

try an onion they register lift bites like no other

[@kevinfishing123]

you should learn chinese how to do fishing

[@stuartwhiting4365]

Too long and too boring. Sorry.

[@MsJackcool69]

short attention span?