Wal Thornhill: An Electric Cosmology for the 21st Century | EU Workshop

[@TheScmtnrider]

Dr. Thornhill has the gift of providing explanations and more importantly, descriptions, easily understandable by way of a linear common sense. Of course, being on the right track helps as well. Thank you!

[@tisithecount4198]

MR. THORNHILL

[@DLee1100s]

He probably deserves a doctorate, he just doesn't have one (yet)

[@danmoretti8898]

@@DLee1100s If he had wanted one, he would have one by now, I think

[@peteconrad2077]

@@DLee1100s what does he deserve a doctorate for.

[@nicholasarthur5525]

I guess Im kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good website to stream newly released series online ?

[@SeanMauer]

I'm going to have to watch this at least 5 times, it's so packed with information. Things are really coming together for the EU model. Great pioneering work found here!

[@SeanMauer]

Here comes the questions. What do you mean "most collapsed" particle? Also you've been using the term gravitational field, isn't this a field derived from the dipoles?

[@ME-fo7si]

I'm so glad this is happening in my lifetime, I'm sure going to let my grandchildren know about the thunderbolt project. Love your lectures.

[@smeagleberry85]

The funny thing is I remember looking at physics and astrophysics growing up and being mesmerised by the human ability to decode and understand the mechanics of such a sophisticated and elaborate nature of the universe, then as I got older and I understood it a little better I actually understood it less.. (If you understand what I mean) it all seemed to not make sense anymore it became too exotic and special to be reality. I started to question what I was taught and tried to see if I could relate what we saw out there to what we see here.. I found myself researching all sorts of pseudo ideas some which held some weight but nether less wild and inaccurate,then I found these guys...and it was like I found the holy grail! All that that seemed too much for my brain to comprehend became comprehensible and I could visualise the mechanics without absurd mathematics and exotic special factors. Wal and co have been a big inspiration for myself and I only hope that one day all their hard work is validated by the scientific community and are recognised for their contribution to the advancement in human knowledge and understanding. Keep it up guys

[@kenoutt]

Ditto!

[@jlselc]

Me too. I always was uncomfortable with the standard model. My E.E. education always found enormous holes in the new discoveries ( theories). I thought I eas pretty much alone, except for a few who could do etter than I , and wrote papers . Gave me hope but I eventually gave up on understanding how things really worked. Thanks to the E.U. and the Thunderbolts ,Everything is coming together.

[@daijoubun6648]

it’s so odd to me that you people place more faith in your personal understanding of things than the experts who have studied them for years. Just because you personally find something confusing must mean its wrong? Reality does not conform to how simple you want it to be, unfortunately, and some things you just won’t understand. If you don’t understand how an air conditioner works, if someone told you that a wizard was actually in there and shooting cool air at you, would you believe it? I mean, it’s a simple explanation, way more understandable than anything involving cooling valves and expansion coils.

[@stinkleaf]

Finally a courageous rational renegade. This cosmology resonates with me and feels like the next realization of mankind. Age of Ego over. And an age of reason to replace it. Thank for standing up and pointing out the paradoxes and outlining this new understanding. I always argued that current science cosmology does not say what banged and how. To explain accelerated expansion they throw at us "inflation theory". Yet again I ask how does infinity expand? Is it not simply our perception that is? Amazing clip of that very question trying to be answered through some "hocus pocus" math talk by the self proclaimed experts.

[@PeaceLovePositiveVibrationsNow]

Wonderful! Thank you so much for sharing this with us, I am going to watch it a second time, even. This is great. I appreciate you. Have a wonderful day!

[@E.lectricityNorth]

Thank you Wal and the TBP team. What a wonderful and thought-provoking presentation. I could listen to your presentations forever, even as we "expand into the future" LOL. I'm so glad I'm not "compressing into the past"--things must have been so tight and uncomfortable back then! In hockey, there is a term known as "undressing the goalie"--this occurs when the goal scorer puts the puck in the net so in such a smooth, rapid, matter-of-fact way that the goalie literally has zero chance of preventing it, and consequently looks as though he has just had his pants pulled down around his ankles. During a presentation such as this one, I can't help but be reminded of the hockey analogy--people like the featured Nobel laureates are being undressed with each new EU presentation. I challenge any BigDarkBlackHoleBanger to submit themselves as opposition in a debate, to be posted here on this channel. Perhaps the featured Nobel laureate would submit himself as Wal's opponent in a debate of which theory of the universe is more valid? Seriously though, what a joke answer he provided for that 11 year old. The 11 year old actually asked a marvelous question...and I hope he one day visits this forum, to see that his instincts in asking such a simple and yet such a valid question, were very well founded. Leave it to the unspoiled mind of an 11 year old to point out the obvious to a puffed-up flamingo who specializes in gobbledygook.

[@rgaleny]

He finally got me to understand why MASS is variable in an Energy field.

[@sean2val]

very hard hitting talk , this will keep me thinking for a long time its so radical . I think i will watch this many times before i grasp it

[@mhikl4484]

+sean sullivan These guys sure take up my time, sul. But what a eureka moment, the first time I came upon TTBP. Now I challenge everything and "that has made all the difference". (Robert Frost) Namaste and care, mhikl

[@budcat7]

Disgusting what they did to Professor Arp, unconscionable and unforgiveable, no better than savages burning someone at the stake, outrageous.

[@carlotoppi1329]

One day man will look back and say that Wal Thornill, and gave birth to the twenty second century. This man should be the leading face of science. I wish mainstream science would snap out of the coma they are in and give this man his just due. I truly believe he’s right in what he’s saying , I just feel it in my bones. I too read Worlds In Collision and it changed my life forever. May Mr. Thornill and Mr. Talbott live forever, thank you for you’re great contributions to real science and understanding the ancient world. Thank you again.

[@4n2earth22]

Wal's challenge at the end is a worthy one. Especially coming from him. Wal would be a tough act to follow; he is the most gentlemanly, intelligent and competent presenter I have ever seen. His contributions to the informational truth and intelligence of our system(s) of science is profoundly huge and disarmingly appropriate and succinct. Thanks, Wal.

[@JackPassmore]

This is Wal's most compendious lecture ever... (that's really good) For science aficionado's and students who haven't encountered competing theories, the 45 minutes spent watching this could be the most impactful of their lives. Bravo, Wal Thornhill... this talk is masterfully distilled and enormously comprehensive... (and just down right exciting)! Now all it needs is Grumpy Cat or an Epic Rap Battle and tens of millions will see it! :0) and... Tweeted! :0)

[@vinzhell]

Wal Thornhill is a natural born teacher.

[@btpcmsag]

Now if he could only learn to enunciate consonants so we could understand what he's saying, that would be great.

[@schmeegil2240]

@@btpcmsag he's an Australian , the content is common sense science. Bugger his pronunciation.

[@chrisstevens-xq2vb]

@@btpcmsagMaybe you need a hearing aid.

[@MrRyanmcmahon]

The clip with the question from the 12 year old boy is amazing. !2min in........Anyone with a thinking mind can see the guy answering (scmidt) is speaking in jargon, double-speak and has no clue about time/space or infinity. Well done Wallace.

[@velikovskysghost]

I quite agree and the first time I watched the Q & A program clip I thought the same thing what a bunch of double talk. I also was aware of the look Lochlan`s dad gave him. Brian Schmidt could and should sell used cars as he`d be good at it. Thanks MrRyanmacmahon your alright.

[@MrRyanmcmahon]

Thanks for the encouragement and and keen insights.

[@velikovskysghost]

MrRyanmcmahon Your welcome Ryan. Its all kind of funny when I think it over I may never have even found out about the thunderbolts group had it not been for my dad bringing home 5 copies of (Worlds In Collision) back in 1972 for us kids to read. I read my copy again and again and the more I read it the more I liked it as it made sense to me, logical sense. Some of my brothers and sisters were into it for awhile but I was the main one who kept up with it and I`m glad I did. I would not trade what I know now for all the wealth in the world. These folks are on the right trail and I stand with them. I do hope to get to see you at a thunderbolts conference along with others who have shown an interest in this information and to quote Wal in a signed copy of his book (The Electric Universe) "Welcome to the electric Universe", these men and women are trying to set the record straight and we younger folks need to help all we can as our future generations may well depend on it. Your fellow student/teacher, James

[@MrRyanmcmahon]

James Kenyon Reading Velokovsky as a youngster must have been incredible. Your dad was keyed in, well done. Yes we need to share and explore new models of the universe and make sure they don't get co-opted by main stream funding and twisted into half truths.

[@velikovskysghost]

MrRyanmcmahon True enough and although my dad did not have enough time to pursue Velikovsky to the full extent he deserved as dad passed away in 1975 he did give me a pathway to a better understanding. And your right in that it is up to us youngsters to keep the world of science on the up and up. Can you imagine how much farther we`d be ahead if we were to have been funding the works of Birkeland, Alf'ven, Jeurgens, Arp and so many others especially Wal Thornhill who NASA should have already hired at least part time as an adviser.

[@paulhofman7991]

Many thanks Wal Thornhill for this fine presentation and for taking on a leadership role in this most interesting area of study. Looking forward to the EU conference in June.

[@gamebent]

A clear and entertaining dose of reality. I look forward to the continuing efforts of the thunderbolts project.

[@justinfarnell2284]

Thanks Wal for your leadership! Another really great presentation.

[@gzpo]

Volume very good, thanks! Watch those calories,Wal. And, thanks for all you do. May the aether be with you.

[@groundcontrol-x8701]

The Immanuel Velikovskys "Worlds in Collision"Book,makes me feel i can Write a book,just by the understanding i get from Reading his book..)..BRAVO!!!!

[@kayville007]

Wal Thornhill rocks... out loud!! Gratitude TB Awesome presentation

[@84homey]

A great lecture, thanks Wal and all at the Thunderbolts Project

[@michaelwisternoff9833]

At last vindication for me, I could never accept the standard explanation of the cosmos Thanks guys I I now feel part of something.

[@jlselc]

Ironic isn't it ? Almost everyone jere feels the same.

[@papalazzzaru]

I watched this video when it first came out and it blew my mind. Now I just realised something that doubly blew my mind. The mechanism that maintains orbits is exactly the same as an ACC (Automatic Gain Control) mechanism used in some optical backbone networking systems today to maintain the optical performance of an optical fibre link (often a couple of thousand km with regeneration) to optimal levels. You take a sample, compare it to the previous and send a signal to advance or backoff depending on the outcome, and on and on, the most simple feedback mechanism in the world (or universe, apparently!)

[@Alan62651]

These types of questions and answers drove my decision to leave the University in 1972. No one could explain why particles were also waves. Brian Schmidt should be UNEMPLOYED in the present.

[@xCosmicHippiex]

i looked at the comment section expecting to see arguments, surprisingly enough i found none! i love how this simply MAKE SENSE. the "you dont get it because you dont math" argument is simply ridiculous! ever since i was in highschool i was upset with how much physicists have been making it up as they go along with no real proof. watching the science channel has become one of my favorite things because it shows how they consider "proof" and "discoveries" to be nothing more than making up something that obviously stems from unsubstantiated imagination.

[@JammaLamma]

I'm glad they're posting the workshop videos but it literally kills me that I wasn't there, happened right smack dab in the middle of an interstate move. Hope there's a next one.

[@mhikl4484]

+J. Collins It’s an annual event, JC. Next year or so I am going to the workshops. These guys are world changers. Science is finally being set free. Graham Hancock and Rupert Sheldrake’s work all fits nicely with this true science. Namaste and care, mhikl

[@JammaLamma]

***** I hadn't heard it's annual anywhere but I do hope so, I'll try to be there next year if it is, definitely so if by that time I get an expected settlement from a recent accident. I like GH but I believe he actively avoids any mention of or answering fan's questions about Thunderbolts. If he has I'd love to know. I'm under the impression it undermines his assertion that the petroglyphs are due to hallucinogens, and he's for some reason either in denial or has a wounded ego concerning this issue. That's speculation and not to cast aspersion But, by not acknowledging that they're plasma formations seen in the ancient sky it undermines his credibility (to a small degree) imo. But, imo, his work should and could complement the electric universe, and hey, maybe they WERE on hallucinogens WHILE they chipped the rock art they saw in the sky yeah? Why not? Love RS too. Aloha nui loaJC

[@mhikl4484]

+J. Collins For sure, JC, it is an annual event-Check out TB’s site for details. I am not sure about GH and any problems with TBP. I believe the work of all three, Sheldrake’s, compliment and support the others. Remember, Graham came to Ayahuasca relatively late in his studies; prior to that, pot was an escape and he goes into great detail on that. He and Sheldrake are good old fashioned ‘Gentlemen”. So is Wal, but WT is the Mighty Warrior and puts up with no BS! Them’s Australian ways. Regarding the likeness in petroglyphs, I don’t think this is quite correct-I believe (have a lousy memory yet I study obsessively) Graham is talking about cave art and other artistic expressions. And I don’t remember hearing mention of any rift or even of petroglyphs in his videos or books with concern in this way-but again, my lame memory may be to blame. I believe Sheldrake has mentioned TBP. These three guys are deep studies. As I like to say, the monster that is present-day bad science meets Three Great Opponents that are taking it, kicking and screaming to the depths of despair where it belongs. I say “bring back the stocks” and I’d be leading the charge with bad fruit and rotting fish!😊 And may we meet in Phoenix next year. (My moniker is pronounced Michael.) The space was an error in set up. Namaste and care, mhikl

[@velikovskysghost]

+J. Collins, I don`t mean to eavesdrop on this old but still relevant topic but I know many of the folks involved and I`m in agreement with J. Collins in that any denial of the facts puts one`s credibility in jeopardy albeit for the most part insignificant it still reflects something on the egotistical level and we all know we all need to address this issue. I can say for sure that I have come a long way in dropping the ego by studying with the thunderbolts/electric universe team. Were in on a conversation that is one of the greatest if not the greatest ever and I just glad at this stage of my existence that I even know about it.

[@duderama6750]

@@mhikl4484 No bs? Were you listening to the dude's story? He's got gravity causing gravity!

[@andycroucheaux4568]

A breakthrough in understanding, how apt.

[@gerrimcloughlin2149]

Is this transcribed anywhere? Fantastic, thank you!

[@moonasha]

what happened to space news? looking forward to more of these

[@OYA1100]

A brilliant talk if taken on board. Hopefully, all will do so.

[@toocat2000000]

I wish I would have known this man when I was in grade five as I never believed the hooey that the schools were teaching at the time and might have gone into the sciences. Regardless the new generation has a chance to pick up REAL science again! Good on yah mate!

[@keehotee1357]

This man deserves a dark Nobel.

[@rgaleny]

Gravity is the distortion of Subatomic Particles !

[@antmill222]

Would love to start seeing some debates. EU scientists vs. Mainstream scientists

[@adawong6543]

"Infinity+1, my 4 year old daughter can answer that one!" LMAO!

[@groundcontrol-x8701]

A great video-I Loved every minute of it-thanx Mr.Thornhill..)...

[@RichardMoore-rkm]

Isn't it a circular argument to say that the nucleus of the atoms are pulled downwards due to gravity, and then to say gravity is an effect of the aligned dipoles?

[@kohertion]

Very informative and entertaining. Thank you.

[@fokkenhotz1]

you go bri bri that's the way to put it str8 4ward and upright.

[@doomfathertm8771]

Wal cracks me up :D :D he's great and I love his humor when he takes the piss

[@bradbradeen9277]

Another amazing lecture from the great Wal! He will be greatly missed!

[@MrWeAllAreOne]

I never see the trolls on this channel,out of their tiny brains reach I guess. I've been following with great interest and it all makes so much sense. I hope the mainstream take more of an interest very soon and drop the rubbish they still cling to and build upon. As a builder myself I know a solid foundation is needed if a building is to remain standing and the standard theories are built upon nothing of the sort. They will come crashing down,they just need a little nudge 😏👉🌇

[@velikovskysghost]

We all owe a tremendous thanks to Wal Thornhill for his contributions to science, history and of a better more holistic understanding of ourselves. Thank you Wal or as is really should be titled (Sir. Wallace William Thornhill) and if I were a king it surely would be, thanks for telling the truth.

[@truBador2]

Awesome. A high wind of knowledge and adventure fills the sails of cosmology again after more than a century being becalmed on blackboards in "mathematical mysticism"...

[@mikegodzina3648]

"Time goes in that direction."

[@garyrector7394]

The segment with the Nobel laureate going on about how an infinite universe can .expand is hilarious.

[@jolferstil1]

Really? one divided by zero is infinity, so is two divided by zero or 100 divided by zero. Are all those infinities the same?

[@velikovskysghost]

+ Gary Rector I thought so too.

[@velikovskysghost]

+ Jolly Ferstil Oh really? One divided by one is 0 and you cannot make something out of nothing.

[@KarlHainer]

A fascinating and brave presentation. I wont pretend that I know the truth, however Wal Thornhill has balls and brains.

[@dustydustydusty]

I agree whole heartedly

[@williamdwyer5439]

If gravity is created by electro-static forces, then it shouldn't be too difficult to make an experiment to verify it. The end result being: we could create a means to manipulate gravity to our advantage.

[@gorbaggoescamping1329]

I am new to this but I think they are saying that the magnetism is stronger but the gravity is a part of the system. but I am still trying to figure it out.

[@velikovskysghost]

+William Dwyer, There is a simple experiment that shows the power of electro-static forces, take a piece of paper about 3 `` by 3`` will do then take a short piece of scotch tape, place the paper on a table and hold the piece of scotch tape over the paper moving it closer and closer until the paper jumps up and attaches to the tape, works every time. Were on the verge of understanding our universe better then we`v ever understood it before thanks to Wal Thornhill, Dave Talbott, and the whole thunderbolts/electric universe team.

[@lieblingscafehugo]

This "nobel nonsense" scene is really scary (9:17)

[@velikovskysghost]

+ Hugo Habicht Scary because they actually gave the Noble prize to this dufus who hasn't a clue about real science.

[@chrisstevens-xq2vb]

Panel of grubs.

[@Braigwen]

9:50 That's one smart kid. Get him into the EU. He'll be a natural.

[@blake121666]

Bravo! Very intriguing and inspiring talk!

[@Samieseeker]

Great presentation! But Brian Cox told me from the telly the other night that they've figured out there was a sea of liquid energy before the big bang, and a trough in the ocean caused the fluid to fall in on itself then explode out..... the graphic of this energy ocean was pretty convincing. I'm only concerned that if one were to sail too far on it, would you sail right off the edge?

[@costadelyani4613]

sounds like the ridiculousness of brian

[@hoptoads]

The EU perspective makes me wonder if a contributing factor for the presence of so many huge land living creatures in the past, was a lower earth 'mass', (i.e. gravity) which would allow for larger possible animal sizes.?

[@jlselc]

Electrical cjarges and discharges were different then. So yeah.

[@gorbaggoescamping1329]

Infinity getting bigger? That's easy, "To infinity and beyond" Buzz Lightyear.

[@velikovskysghost]

Wet`s do a wittle expewiment like in school where we start from a point and start counting from 0, 0 goes to 1, 1 to 2, 2 to 3, and I cwan twimes that by 2, 2 X 2 is 4, 4 X 4 is 8, 8 X 8 is 16 and I can do that forwever and that`s what`s so cool about that is we can do this in mathwematics.

[@messapatingy]

In "What causes gravity?" at 31:23 it seems like a gravitational field is the cause of the gravitational field.

[@rogue.ganker]

Ya he kinda flubbed that part. I think what he's trying to get across is the E or energy which is a negative charge which is variable in all matter/bodies will cause the positive dipoles to face inward giving the gravitation field a negative charge on the surface and a positive on the inside as per the diagram. He goes on to talk about changing the mass of a planet through discharging off some of the electrons. Weaken the - the charge would weaken the dipole's distortion ipso facto, weaker gravity.

[@keenetiedemann4486]

Regarding Birkeland currents- could this also be a source of free energy?

[@ronaldograyman]

The Best We Have Go Wal.!!!

[@macs7yles325]

The Electrical Universe has given me the ability to observe the obvious! Berkland currents charge the universe the universe charges stars, stars charge planets, planets charge Humans and we charge technology. And that is elegant simplicity. Observe the obvious!

[@tisithecount4198]

Impressive that you figured that out from your armchair on youtube.

[@Ozma337]

brilliantly done.

[@tarisiosfever350]

There is a little problem: gravity causes the atoms to be dipoles and dipoles cause gravity...circular. Could it be that the Birkland Currents cause rotation of the earth, rotation causes gyroscopic effect, which causes dipoles, which causes gravity?

[@alexanderbanman9288]

I love watching these videos.

[@CaseyJames8181]

If the higgs boson does not exist,please explain the discovery they claim they found please?I have been a loyal follower of the Thunderbolts project but I need this answered.From 1 fellow bolty to another.Im a big physics enthusiast.

[@daviddrew7852]

+casey james Wishful thinking. A vague interpretation of vague results, required primarily to save face.

[@CaseyJames8181]

Not a scientific answer.Consider this a strike

[@AlaricHolmes]

+casey james That's a good question, and one to which I don't have a good answer. I would hope that the Thunderbolts folks would monitor their comments sections a bit more and provide answers to stuff like this -- or perhaps they've explained it elsewhere and hope that you and I will find where they've talked about it. I dunno. For myself -- and I know this goes beyond the scope of your question -- I find both "sides" (gravity vs. electricity) of this discussion interesting and each entirely incomplete. It seems foolish to me to assert that one force is *the* force behind galaxies and the universe while the other is just there for no particular reason. I would hope that, once both sides are done sniping at each other, they'll put their data together and come up with a *comprehensive* model of the universe that takes *all* of the forces into account. Anyway, in my very cursory search (like, for 5 minutes, maybe) of the internet with regard to your question, all that I've come up with is this: www.techtimes.com/articles/19802/20141108/shocking-cern-may-not-have-discovered-elusive-higgs-boson-particle-after-all.htm Don't know whether it's true or not, but it's interesting. It does, however, refer to "dark matter" as a real thing, rather than the epicycle-like hocus pocus that it is, so take that as you will. Keep asking questions, and don't let *anyone* get too comfortable with their cosmology!

[@SuperMagnetizer]

+casey james As I understand it, no one here has claimed that the Higgs boson doesn't exist. It's just that it is one more "particle" (or wave-resonance) that has been "created" by CERN. What they claim to have "discovered" is actually something they have created using their huge machine. Just because the Higgs can be "cooked up" doesn't prove that it is that which gives mass to particles, but rather that mass is an "intrinsic" attribute of matter.

[@JonRista]

+casey james All they "discovered" was a waveform. The waveform plotted by the energy released from their experiments. They did not discover a "particle". They smashed tens of thousands of particles together, and measured and plotted the energy and other "particles" released by those collisions. It took the accumulated data from each individual run of the experiment to actually produce the complete waveform they eventually called "The Higgs Boson"...but that is all they did. Smash particles together and measure the energy outcome, it's propagation through the complex measuring devices built into the supercollider, and give the resultant plotted waveform a name. They needed a particle called the Higgs Boson, so they called it the Higgs Boson. Handily ignoring the fact that it did not meet either of the two key potential energy levels their mathematics required. The "Higgs Boson" was around 125-126GeV (and it was actually measured twice, with different results, at different stations), when the math told them it would either be somewhere between 114-115GeV or 146GeV. The "particle" discovered is nothing more than the result of energy in == energy out. Conservation of energy. Take two particles of known mass, spin them around a giant magnetically confined tube for a while to accelerate them to some energy level, and you'll get a generally expected outcome. Crank up the input energy levels, you'll get increased output levels. The original experiments were limited in their potential energy, due to issues with the system, repairs, and running it at half power. They are now running it at full power, and will undoubtedly find even "heavier particles", and in the future, when they crank up the power levels again, they will undoubtedly find EVEN HEAVIER "particles". It's the ten billion dollar game, and it's all a joke. There is no Higgs. There is only the energy released by smashing to particles together with 6.5TeV input power. There still won't be a Higgs when they smash to particles together with 13TeV input power. Listen to the Thunderbolts Project. These guys have it nailed. I've never seen a more coherent, logical, and yet simple explanation of....everything...as I've seen with the Electric Universe theory. It is the first unified field theory that actually works, and it requires nothing mysterious or magical, it only requires what we already know of and understand: electromagnetism. It's beautiful. And better...it is something that can be understood without incomprehensible mathematics or convoluted theories.

[@TxFw]

Keep leading Wal. Good work.

[@CarolAnnAmelian]

something he said makes me think... the hadron collider is actually what had made us all age a bit quicker over the past three-four years

[@Sazamus]

i must be missing something, he keeps talking about gravitational fields distorting the subatomic particles but says that gravitational affects are the result of this distortion. How can gravity be both the result and cause of this distortion?

[@duderama6750]

It looks like we won't be getting an answer to that question. I get worried when I hear nonsense like that.

[@ScientificLee]

fantastic as usual

[@MyImmaculateQueen]

I am a cynic. I trust almost no one BUT I do trust Dr Thornhill. He strikes me as an authentic, honest and sincere man who is intelligent, articulate and credible. He is not on an ego trip and doesn't try to hide behind theoretical mathematical gibberish and scientific jargon. His sole object appears to be to educate the common man. Most things are surprisingly simplistic but man creates his own fake science and his own real confusion.

[@multi_misa72]

Wal dude, thank you for your decision to become a leader, you rule in search for the truth! my deepest respect and support to all the brave scientists that work on EU and SAFIRE, can't wait for the results, wish you all very happy hunting for this rare animal called: the truth.

[@Vern3666]

The path of light bends toward the direction where the speed of light is slower. I like that explanation of gravity better.

[@sashikorosu]

Thornhill debunks Einsteinian gravity because the "rubber sheet" model requires gravity to explain gravity. Then he shows a slide proposing a dipole theory of gravity that requires....gravity! He really should know better....

[@jeffreysmick821]

Excuse me, Wal, but I must ask: you rightfully cast off the rubber sheet explanation for gravity because one cannot use gravity to explain gravity. Your explanation for gravity ALSO uses gravity to explain gravity! What causes the dipoles to deform? Gravity! I've listened carefully and repeatedly. Did I miss something?

[@inthewoodsbear6656]

Why is gravity used to explain the dipole phenomenon but also (gravity) is said to not exist?

[@kuzinvknee3318]

Mathematics goes no further than a description at present, and Goes no FURTHER!!

[@keenetiedemann4486]

"The structure of the sun is not the traditional one that we see there." 30:55 I can accept this but I'm dying to know what the structure of the sun IS according to EU Theory. Please create a presentation on this!

[@velikovskysghost]

+ Keene Tiedmann Wal actually answered me on this very question at the 2013 thunderbolts conference at a questions and answers time. "The sun and stars cores are made up of the heavier elements i.e, iron, silica etc...with a cool core"...

[@velikovskysghost]

+ Keene Tiedemann See the videos of Dr. Donald E. Scott from the thunderbolts site and his talk at the Goddard Institute.

[@arminczernilofsky6446]

great as usual

[@keenetiedemann4486]

The sum of all the aligned subatomic dipoles produces gravity? 32:10 Then how do we overcome the sum of all the aligned subatomic dipoles? Or at least enough of them to create lift. Is that possible?

[@velikovskysghost]

+ Keene Tiedmann Electricity!

[@sweetieturner3377]

thank you so much for your work. i have a very basic, 101 question(s) - how can a mass, like venus or some other planet or body, hold its course near planet earth, and then act like a giant electro magnet to create plasma energy, forcing great tremendous energy to disrupt plates, land, water, polar shifting? what caused the attraction from this object/mass/planet TO the earth, to begin with? why did it stop? how did it stop? why hasnt this happened again? where is it happening elsewhere in the universe? cosmologists are saying they are finding meteors with similiar minerals/metals/properties to what we see on earth. are they related? is this from earth? how did the asteroid belt form? thank you.

[@velikovskysghost]

+ Phoebe Washburngates The best place to get answers to so many questions is at Wal's site [e-mail]

very interesting

[@dustydustydusty]

excellent

[@TheMisterMarino]

back to reality..back to the future! keep busting the myths of human hypnotism and dark age destruction that rules our planet until now. EU is an admiring tool to understand the facts!

[@ub2bn]

re; quasar mass gain... how would this change (if at all) if edwin kaal's theory (no neutrons) was applied? thanxx

[@emasolie4135]

Time is duration of motion. How do the discoveries of the JWST influence influence your theories?

[@Thomas_Geist]

I wrote a simple refutation of Einstein's "Elevator Experiment." Would anyone care to review it to see if it conforms to the EU theory? It's quite short.

[@iondetox]

Thomas Geist I'm down if you don't send me an email or text

[@velikovskysghost]

I`m interested as well. What is of interest to me here is the notion that we have the ability to go back a review some of the accepted (settled) science we were taught in school and see if the mathematical equations fit the observations and experiments, in other words, the physical 3 dimensional world in which we live. I want to thank Dr. Velikovsky for opening the door to true critical thinking for me, and the thunderbolts/electric universe folks for sticking they`re foot in that door. I`m also thankful to my fellow student/teachers who show by comment that they are open minded enough to ask pertinent questions about this topic and accept answers covered by empirical law.

[@RAIDFIX]

My initial response to some of the ideas that Wal proposes, is "bunkum". It's then you realize how our (my) minds are programmed to think along the accepted science models. But step back, pause and say, let's think a little more on what he's talking about. It might just be a better model.

[@velikovskysghost]

+ chopper For my money and time, it is.

[@robertdiggins7578]

That Nobel Nonsense segment REALLY seems like an episode of Black Mirror..

[@asharnygee]

I first came across this theoretical understanding by reading Tesla, who was recorded telling a journalist that Einstein's theory was wrong, because space wasn't empty...

[@Skyturnip]

But where is my antigravity machine then? Surely somebody can apply these theories for interplanetary travel and instant communication.

[@velikovskysghost]

+Skyturnip, I am as we speak working on ideas with this in mind and I am looking forward to getting into a lab and trying some of them out. I know for sure as soon as some of the big schools get wind of more of this there will be students that will be doing some of the same experiments as I am planning.

[@norseaknothead]

I could not understand the gentleman's words @ 12:44 before he said "and there you have it." Could someone help me out please?

[@dcoke-fx2nr]

"Well, you know, I told you early on, physicists are the smartest people on Earth, and, you know, there you have it!”

[@norseaknothead]

dcoke2628 Thank you

[@jcdossdvm]

So I'm confused by the explanation of gravity here, as Wal uses "gravitational fields" to explain the distortion of particles which then cause gravity. Can anyone clarify this for me?

[@umfuli]

Wal, they will not present you with a Nobel Prize. Be grateful for that. Look at the sorts of people to whom they give the Peace Prize!!! Thank you for this, a compelling argument for the creation and existence of life throughout the universe, by instantaneous resonance. The fact that gravity has changed enormously on earth is evident by study of dinosaurs and particularly the pterodactyl which could never have flown with present gravity and air density, but obviously did in the past.

[@umfuli]

No, I don't think I have lost any particles, and I hope I haven't yet lost my marbles. Thanks for asking.

[@thundermountainatv]

you cant really multiply infinity . infinity is an intangible concept, multiplying infinite space is kinda like multiplying blue fairies

[@E.lectricityNorth]

3:50 Yes, I agree that theirs is a lifeless, hopeless cosmology. My sense is actually that life itself more than enables the existence of the universe--it IS the universe. The fractal nature of life contained within life, observing what it perceives to be the surrounding universe, but in reality is another living system. Electricity is what enables all connections within this unending living entity.

[@barleyarrish]

+E. Lectricity as a remote viewer since the early 80's, i have had some kind of experience of what rupert sheldrake calls the morphic field. how could i gather information with a provable certainty of existance given, only co-ordinates of random numbers as a target? perhaps the universe is not a strange place just presently mis-represented and therefore mis-understood. the electric universe theory is a wonderful thing to have happened for us all.

[@gorbaggoescamping1329]

wow... I mean wow...what a crazy ass yet amazing concept! I love it. Think of the possibilities.

[@barleyarrish]

Gorbag Goes Camping well the cia and most intelligence gathering agencies thought of the possibilities, and had programs running. the rmote viewing course i took was put together by an ex cia operative.

[@velikovskysghost]

Comprehension might be easier then we/you think. Becoming aware of who we are here and now is one of the most important. We have microbes on us that get washed off in from a shower and down the drain only to replaced by new one`s that naturally form there, how much could that microbe know about the human body it lives on much less the part we see in just the milky way? I believe the universe is a living organism self sustaining and eternal, always has been always will be, we as partakers get to have experience`s along the way. To get to know the conscience of the universe we need to feel what makes us sad or happy realize what we enjoy and apply that to our everyday existence. I think Abraham Lincoln said it best when he was asked what religion he was, he said, "My religion is when I do good I feel good and when I do bad I feel bad, and that`s my religion". I believe this pretty much to be the case and after more then 6 decades of living in this planet I can say that from experience.

[@velikovskysghost]

Indeed so, I`v thought of doing some experiments in co-ordinance with some friends where were placed in two or three locations say in a little league baseball game, communicate with each other by cell phone, pick a person who stands where we both can see clearly, send thoughts a or stare at the back of this person for the game and see if he/she ever looks right back at either one of us. This type of experiment`s could be and should be tried and document the results.

[@naturalphilosophy9649]

Bravo!!!!

[@rknower]

The "Electric Universe" comes very close and in compliance with "The Logical Universe"... What's missing are Black Stars and the Big Bang... Expansion happened, which lead to the different stages of potential energy. TLU believes in a modified version of thermodynamics...

[@kennethchow213]

Gravity is not weaker than electromagnetism( certainly not 10^40 times weaker) but is exactly equal in magnitude to electromagnetism. Why? gravity is electromagnetism, and not only gravity, but also the Strong Force and Weaker Force. There is only one universal interaction. So you can call it by whatever terminology, but the well established laws : Coulomb's Law, Gauss Law, Ampere Maxwell Law, Lenz Law, etc., apply to this unique interaction.

[@Avishay90]

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[@ladyofthemasque]

Just had a thought... Hominids (including H. sapiens sapiens) had heavy melanistic pigmentation (brown eyes, hair, skin) even when they moved north into Eurasia. That should have been detrimental due to the need for UV radiation to metabolize vitamin D. Yet we didn't have a drop in melanin needs unil just a couple ten thousand years ago (pale skin 28k-28k years ago, blond hair 11k years ago, blue eyes 6k-10k years ago). If we had constant light from the radiation-glow of Saturn's brown dwarf corona, we would have needed to keep that melanin constantly working to protect us from all that radiation. This means the brightening of the skies by the incoming Sol sun (as opposed to Saturn) would have reinforced it for a little bit, but then dropped it as the Saturn sun in turn dropped enough of its mass (by ejecting the lump of Venus) to drop its glow to the point where the sun was hitting the Earth in cycles of day and night far more strongly than the glow of Saturn (which was now departing due to its shift in momentum as it got caught up in the new system's electromagnetic demands. This new source of light therefore hit the planet consistently from an angle starting near the equator, rather than emanating from all directions...meaning shallow depths at the north and south poles, requiring those who lived in those areas to find it beneficial to lack nearly as much melanin pigments. So it might be possible to track the timing of the shift from a planetary system that was Saturn-sun-centric to Sol-sun-centric based on when some groups of humans lost their constant need for melanin to protect their skin from radiation. This could be correlated with various ages for known cave paintings and rock art depicting the Saturn-sun and its planetary configurations in symbolism (the circle, the flower or multi-pointed star, the curved horns of the "god", etc...)

[@gorbaggoescamping1329]

"and we are allowed to do that in mathematics." yeah ok but in the real world?

[@velikovskysghost]

Exactly and did you see the look on the dad`s face when he said that? And the girl staring dreamy eyed as though she`s looking at her true love warrior hero and not actually listening? The answers Brian Schmidt comes up with are laughable, seriously laughable! Only not so laughable when we realize that he received the Nobel Prize for inventing this gibberish. Maybe Einstein should have got the Nobel Prize when he introduced time as a dimension back in the 1930`s.

[@Krackonis]

Oh Wal, you and I are going to have a talk about this. :P