Walther Toggle-Locked Semiauto Shotgun (ouch!)

[@SarionFetecuse]

The Virgin Mossberg, has a recoil damper so you don't feel the recoil The Chad Walter Toggle locked shotgun, has recoil that will break your shoulder (ouch!)

[@michaelswagson4457]

the ouch part really got me

[@darshfulford]

Chad does not say ouch

[@augustovasconcellos7173]

@@darshfulford his shirt does

[@colinmasterson666]

…So hip fire only then?

[@darshfulford]

@@colinmasterson666 no, shoulder fire and pretend it doesn't hurt, repress things like a man

[@alexanderwalker3906]

About 5000 made? Nah they were standard issue in WW2 according to sledgehammer games

[@AzelfandQuilava]

Don't forget the detachable magazines. Nah in all seriousness, I'm glad they included it. Its such a cool design, even with the artistic license.

[@NexusDex]

Alexander Walker hahaha nice one!

[@christianlee3068]

Same with the volk and a prototype svt

[@daehkcidemos]

christian lee + the “NZ-41”

[@dillonc7955]

You must be new to Call of Duty. Typically better guns are used in Multiplayer more than mediocre or bad guns. You could have a full team of people using Type 5 Garands if they wanted to. There's no restrictions on how common or rare they weapons were.

[@wirtzluca]

And now try Walther toggle locked semi auto in German: Walther Selbstladeflinte mit Kniegelenkverschluss

[@eddyguizonde401]

gesundheit.

[@TorquilBletchleySmythe]

Mein lederhosen verbotten ist.

[@richardlahan7068]

Wow!

[@leximatic]

Sehr gut! Du bekommst eine 1.

[@Dea7hWarran7]

Easy for you to say.

[@TheRogueWolf]

9:42- special guest commentary from Cthulhu.

[@thedigitaldemon8010]

In his Range at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits sport shooting.

[@planescaped]

play it on 0.25 speed and watch the back of the gun.

[@Dirtbag-Hyena]

@@planescaped Like a space ship launching from a carrier's catapult.

[@overlorddante]

Every speed has a rather distinct roar/growl to it. Quite remarkable.

[@cerealata9035]

*Iä, iä!*

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

*Adolf Furrer running gasping and wheezing* :"Toggle-lock where? Where? Gimme!"

[@drustybhackleford6972]

Fuck yeah

[@kbjerke]

"One on the ground for good luck..." I am TOTALLY stealing that!!!!!! ROTFL

[@grenworthshero]

The dadliest of dad jokes.

[@Falconguygaming]

that magazine is so freaking cool!

[@bryanstellfox8521]

Yeah, that's the most badass shotgun mag I've ever seen. When he popped that thing, the cool factor was raised by levels of magnitude.

[@Tyrfingr]

Makes two of us

[@clydemarshall8095]

I understand that you often can't take auction pieces or certain antiques to the range, but please continue giving us some range footage whenever you get the chance. I love to see these weapons in action.

[@aserta]

"(ouch!)" in the title, it's bound to be interesting as heck. :)

[@raylambert7227]

If I had to guess why the recoil is more than you might expect, the 65mm chamber doesn't fully contain the 67mm shell when it opens, partially blocking the barrel and raising the pressure considerably. You need to use 65mm shells to tame the pressure and subsequent recoil. All of that extra pressure is pushing a lot of weight back into your shoulder. I know it seems like a little thing, but that's my guess.

[@wallybal1297]

That wouldn't be it unless it was creating higher exit velocities.

[@raylambert7227]

@@wallybal1297 Seems to me, if you're creating higher pressures in the breech, you are probably increasing the velocity of the contents of the shell. If you increase the pressure too much, you're libel to increase the velocity of the chamber right into your skull. I've seen people put 2.75 in shells into antique shotguns with only a 2.5in chamber and they notice...boy howdy. A 2.75in shell will fit in the chamber, but there isn't enough room for the case to fully open to let the shot out. The right shell for the right chamber for safe shooting.

[@gokuss15]

Skip to 0:41 to see a cool lil dog

[@minhqun]

Josh Callejas forgotten dogo

[@ac1dP1nk]

Josh Callejas just going about his bidness

[@tommyfred6180]

woof :)

[@durtwarrior1142]

*cool lil dog anus

[@asoutherngentleman7517]

Adorable. Gun Jesus does not disappoint.

[@krnts22]

The chad Walther Toggle-Locked Semiauto vs the virgin pump action

[@heibk-2017]

krnts I was literally thinking that the moment I saw the Ouch!

[@KFCGAMING55]

The m‐30 drilling ultra Chad

[@MEleven-wh2kh]

*Laughs in Browning Auto 5*

[@ludwigtheholyblade_777]

@@KFCGAMING55 The thad

[@LTGVCasanova]

Lain

[@ToodlTonke212]

11:11 did the mag just swing open? Damn that's gotta be real nasty recoil

[@kenibnanak5554]

Looks so to me too. :)

[@bigmike-]

Good catch! And yes. These guns are, as the Swedes say, "total dildos."

[@Govrin.]

Mag tube

[@CapitanAP]

Yep, kinda reminds me of a Colt Walker, which dropped down the loading lever after almost every shot fired

[@tommyliddell5980]

Swiftly becoming my favorite KZbin personality! Thank you Ian!

[@SNOUPS4]

No complete disassembly? =( Awesome video on an extra-ordinary gun anyway; thanks for having made it for us! :)

[@evanfunk7335]

SNOUPS4 its german lol it would be 3 hours to disassemble it

[@hanskc3302]

Few years ago I read an article about this shotgun. Author says that dis- and reassembly is extremely complicated three-hand process.

[@Dirtbag-Hyena]

NO!! NO DISASSEMBLE JOHNNY 5!!

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Been seein' a lot of ammo hitting the ground lately. A video yesterday or so, an InRange video a day before that. I dig it. It's like up-turning a glass and letting the beverage pour out for one's compatriots.

[@russbilzing5348]

There is a photograph extant of John Moses Browning with an exposed toggle lock 12 gauge shotgun, possibly a prototype that didn't make it to the production stage.

[@MEleven-wh2kh]

I believe that was the Browning Auto 5

[@russbilzing5348]

@@MEleven-wh2kh Um, no. I haven't seen the photo for years, but I didn't get that impression. The one I saw had an exposed Toggle lock system remarkably identical to the Luger mechanism, though definitely beefier. If it was a prototypical action for the BA5, I couldn't say but we know it wasn't put into production. Thanx.

[@jordanhorst6]

That shell tube/gate system is pretty slick. I'd love to see something similar with pre loaded tubes. Maybe like polymer tube magazines that fall off when it swings open. 🤔😀

[@packbadge]

Such a beautiful shotgun. Love the mag tube/foreend and how it drops down

[@MichaelBerthelsen]

That thudded click on the safety is really satisfying... Just a really pleasant sound, rather than a loud or violent click. Very nice. 7:02

[@DL-ij7tf]

At 11:10 the recoil actually seems to disengage the magazine catch and pop the handguard/magazine down "out of battery". That would definitely be a reliability concern as it would definitely make it a 'single-shot' shotgun. Such an interesting work of mechanics though, I love seeing all the engineering attempts over the years to address the issue of making a boom haha.

[@M0torsagmannen]

the bolt release on this gun is so cool! love the sound it makes

[@andrewengel3023]

it looks like it shoots very nice, and its cool how it seems to use the bolt release as a catch for the shells in the tube to keep them from flying out

[@kolbytard]

Handled that recoil like a boss

[@alien_marksman]

Truly Fascinating. Thank you for showing us such a unique firearm.

[@kenibnanak5554]

Another thumb smasher. The stocked C96 Broomhandle is another one you have to watch your thumb when shooting (the stocked Naval Lugers also tended to bite, which is why they moved the rear sight on the artillery variant). If I am understanding the discussion that safety only blocks the trigger and does nothing to block the firing pin? If so, best to not ever drop or harshly bump a loaded one.

[@tonsssedell4318]

Shotguns in general are notorious for not having a "drop safe" design. Several modern shotguns are at risk of accidental discharge in case they were bumped hard enough, including when they fall to the ground. This often applies when the safety is on or off.

[@M95-v4r]

12/65 is still easy to find in Austria. The three types most common types of shotgun ammo in general are 12/67, 12/70, and 12/76.

[@pbgd3]

I have a few short chambered double guns. Quick method is to get the right tools for a drill press to trim cases and roll crimp. You can disassemble shorten and reload cheapos even. Works great.

[@JosephArata]

They still sell commercially available 2 1/2" length 12 gauge shells from Holland and Holland.

[@cenglish1064]

The shotgun malfunctioned and my browser crashed. Ironic.

[@wierdalien1]

Connor English thats not ironic. Just sad. Itd be ironic if it made your computer work properly

[@wierdalien1]

mummola25 obviously a patreon.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

He's not one of us poor folk.

[@tenhundredkills]

Connor English That's coincidental, not ironic.

[@smellyfish4699]

The fact that your name has 'English' in it makes your 'ironic' comment ironic

[@linksbro1]

11:00 I feel like that thumbs up might turn into a meme xD

[@screamsinrussian5773]

Think again nerd

[@asianinvasian9022]

We already have the blond kid thumbs up meme

[@PanzerLemming]

That magazine mechanism is so COOL! It looks like something you would see in sci-fi.

[@robertgiggie6366]

that may be one of the most beautiful guns ever.

[@Relyt345]

I actually like this shotgun, looks like it was made nicely, and it’s cool how they designed it. But in the slo Mo shot the recoil looks brutal.

[@vincentkreipe5776]

The aprubt stop and high impulse also may cause the cracs in the lower assembly of the gun, which seen quite often, even the gun is that rare

[@ditzydoo4378]

The largest market competitor to this "Humpback" design was the Belgium Browning Auto-5 which was vastly superior (and wouldn't eat your thumb if you placed along the tang), and already dearly loved by European hunters.

[@muhughu]

I wonder if this is the wierd German shotgun that I heard sories about growing up. The story being that my grandfather bought a strange shotgun for pretty much nothing, and the man who sold it just wanted to be rid of the damned thing. He then dislocated his thumb on his first hunt with it so he just stored it away and forgot where.

[@RushBuzzing]

There exists a photograph of J. M. Browning sitting on a chair in his shop with a prototype toggle lock shotgun. It looked like an Auto-5 and a Luger had an offspring.

[@vikkimcdonough6153]

9:34 - Good aim hitting the camera with that ejected shell! :-P

[@OGDemonburn]

The recoil goes with the angle of the toggle action, that's wild

[@maxplaysgamesmore8552]

What a strange weapon. That is so odd I love that fact it’s a thing that exists. Definitely a great collector’s item a s a good looking shotgun too at that. I love the wood furniture.

[@iamtemo]

Thank you for the slow motion on this. It really explain the action. Would o love to see the tear down, but I understand why it could of not happen.

[@troyjohnson7154]

Thats a good looking gun.

[@Poleson]

Totally agree! Very sleek.

[@Stefan_Payne]

Why is this gun so quiet??

[@saberfire89]

Stefan Payne that's just the camera mic equalizing the noise to stop it peaking.

[@notyermama1597]

Thank you Ian!

[@edarnold3922]

I owned (but never shot) one of these for several years. The barrel had a ring bulge about halfway, my guess is someone used 2 3/4” shells and the front of one cut off and travelled up the tube, to be run over by the next shot. Disassembly is ... interesting. The strong recoil spring runs through the buttstock, and is retained by the little button on the top of the grip when the action is opened. The block on the side of the lower receiver can be slid out, releasing the upper to slide forward. The barrel is secured to the receiver by a small setscrew, when removed the barrel unscrews by hand. Breaks down into a very compact package this way for traveling. I sold mine off a couple years back, these guns do show up on the European e-guns site.

[@Randy_Plays_Games]

Ian looking as stylish as ever, sporting that särmä meriono wool hoodie.

[@majorvictory3231]

That's the quietest shotgun I ever heard

[@dinglebop3011]

"remarkably stout" = "this shit fuckin hurts"

[@HydraDominus]

That's a pretty cool magazine tube

[@neruneri]

The high speed really shows the recoil. I can see why that would be a problem, that looks a lot more brutal than it should be.

[@petesampson4273]

I have a Winchester Model 1911, aka "The Widowmaker", and after all these years the recoil buffers are hard as steel or gone entirely. The recoil is a bit like having a burly guy hit your shoulder with a 2 pound hammer. The really fun part is that it can also slam fire and cook off all three rounds, it was plugged for duck hunting and I've never really been able to get the mag tube opened, with a single trigger pull. That being said... I can hit really well with it and it has a very tight pattern so I would bring it duck hunting to use for shooting cripples on the water but I figure shooting a full box of shells in one day would render my right arm useless for a week or so. If you ever have a chance to fire one it is an interesting novelty but please be super careful with it. It won't blow up in your face but it might fire when you least expect it. In fact. My Uncle Henry, the original owner, dropped it in his duck boat and blew a huge hole through the transom. Cheers!

[@Destructoglitch]

Am I the only one that loves how you lower the tube to load it?

[@walkmanstudios9733]

Honestly still the coolest gun on this channel

[@hk_4014]

See this is why I love forgotten weapons. They stuck this gun in Call of Duty WW2 and called it the toggle action. I assumed that is was a made up shotgun that they just stuck into the game. I was wrong. Thank you Ian for proving me wrong.

[@hk_4014]

Crispy Tenderloin yeah they did it to a bunch of gun in the game, it's really a shame

[@zacht9447]

would have loved to see this disassembled

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

It locks quite sleek, a long and elegant weapon.

[@JediLuke1999]

had a trigger guard for this found in a relatives garage! Had no idea it was so rare, I hope to find the rest of it!

[@ZacharySkan]

This is a perfect weapon for battlefield 5. Cool loading mechanism. Not that many made. cool looking. The whole shabang.

[@fallgore7938]

that is one of the coolest shotguns ive ever seen

[@yesthecrumbs5806]

To me Ian is the white Morgan Freeman

[@mathieushifera9555]

He really is

[@ArcturusOTE]

Or an older AU version of Gordon Freeman

[@booqueefious2230]

What if Morgan Freeman is the black Ian??

[@Ghostselkie]

I like the way of loading.

[@jokelius1]

I dunno why, but to me that magazine is maybe the coolest feature I've ever seen on a shotgun

[@73honda350]

Almost certainly Fritz Walther referred to himself and the company using the germanic "Valter" rather than the anglicized pronunciation. Other arms-related names/references retaining at relatively close use of native pronunciations include Koch, Fiocchi, Berthier, Mannlicher, Dreyse and Gewehr, to name just a few.

[@warmachine_1396]

Polywad makes 2.5 inch shells. I load some of my own using 2 3/4 paper hulls that I cut down and end up using a roll crimper from the 1800s to close them up. It's safer to do this also as using longer shells cause pressure issues as the crimped end can't fully open in the chamber.

[@pbr-streetgang]

Cool old school shotgun. Thanks for the vid sir.

[@Joecuts]

The Shotgun that sounds like a stapler.

[@GreenCanoeb]

If you need 2.5 inch shells in the USA you can get RST brand through Ballistic Products. Or if you reload using a MEC single stage press MEC makes a handy adapter plate to make 2.5 inch shell reloading easy.

[@gustavgnoettgen]

This artillery just after the war to end all wars in dshermany? Oh dear... A beauty btw

[@mntlmentos]

You’d expect it to be an extremely loud bang from firing, but all you hear is the sound of the gun cycling.

[@nekomasteryoutube3232]

First Non-Patreon Post! ALways nice to see these interesting and unusual firearms :D

[@nekomasteryoutube3232]

I dont even know who you are

[@AngelSamael]

Good training for firing a stopping riffle without breaking your eardrums or making all your neighbors hate you.

[@Galdenberry_Lamphuck]

aesthetically its a really cool looking gun. i can just see a sawed off one in the hands of Blaskowitz or doomguy.

[@JerryEricsson]

Not often I think of a shotgun as being COOL, I mean usually they are pretty basic firearms, but that one, now that was cool. Wish you could have taken her apart so we could see that toggle action up close!

[@goatlord1179]

what a beautiful gun

[@GlennForbes20]

I know you sometimes do modern weapons if they are relatively unknow, so I suggest the Noreen BN-36. The Garand of the 21st century.

[@ionz75]

This gun's not the best looker but the way it operates is sooooooo sexy! I love the charging lever and the way the tube drops down, it looks very satisfying to load.

[@XFolf]

For a "not very successful" shotgun, and recoil not withstanding, that's one cool shotgun.

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

Another great video, Ian. P.S.: The dog needs to return and become the Forgotten Weapons mascot.

[@littlegreenhelmetboi4148]

From what my simple minds can understand is that this is a special gun and if I put my face to close to the back of the receiver I'm getting smacked

[@larsonfam3861]

It's not the ammo that short strokes the "slide" or bolt here, its the same as with hard spring auto pistols, the soft wrist malfunction, but in this case, shoulder, if the buttock is being allowed to push the shoulder back excessively it wont push back the bolt sufficiently.

[@Giovanni-33]

I always drop one shell on the ground for my homies who couldn't be there.

[@DJ-je2zh]

I can’t decide whether I like the high camera angle or not

[@MikeDCWeld]

I found it interesting that it didn't lock open after firing the last shell when it is clearly designed to lock on an empty magazine when using the charging handle.

[@wasdwazd]

Reading the title, I can only assume that Ian gets his finger caught in the action at some point of the video. Darn, it was just the recoil.

[@gwoody4003]

I am jealous of your job. I would love the opportunity to shoot odd, rare and historical firearms. 12ga is generally a pretty good kick when target shooting, even w low brass. You don't notice when theres geese in the air but shooting cans and clays, its nasty. I shoot mainly a Mossberg 835 Ulti-mag or classic 870 Express. My favorite thing to do when shooting w friends who don't know, is to slip in a 3.5inch magnum turkey load and let them give that a whirl. Lol. I gotta start recording video. Thats like getting kicked by a mule. So far only 1 has dropped the gun. These days a 3.5" magum is about $2.25 a shell so I don't really do that too often.

[@Prometheus044]

"Where does he get those wonderful toys?"

[@ineedausername342]

This is the coolest shotgun I have ever seen.

[@myramadd6651]

Fairly quiet for a shotgun. Or was that the speaker turned down.

[@maeflower5108]

It's the camera mic equalizing the sound. All his recent videos. are like that.

[@Big31sky]

That dog had somewhere to go.

[@worldtraveler930]

Just once I would like to hear him say that "Hi I am Ian McCullm and your watching Forgotten Weapons Wild Kingdom!" 😁

[@thatguybrody4819]

today we teach these .32 french long how to fly!

[@russbilzing5348]

I'm amused by the way he says metallurgy with the German pronunciation, though it IS appropriate, I suppose.

[@nemoskull2262]

'one on the ground for good luck' lol

[@jameswoods7276]

As bad as the recoil is... for 1920's its pretty damn cool in my eyes. Especially with 4+1 capacity. If I could buy / find one I would.

[@amunderdog]

9:41 thru 9:42 - 11:19 thru 11:34 was all the action cycle. Needed a high speed camera and spent a little more time on that. Interesting how charging and cycling are so different.

[@richpeters4705]

Yikes, semi auto knuckle buster. I like it!

[@rexmcstiller4675]

I would like to have that kind of magazin tube on a modern semi shotgun.

[@JDangly]

It’s wild to me that a semi auto like this would seem like it has harsher recoil than a pump shotgun. In theory semi autos would absorb some of the energy for it to cycle. But it seems like this one doesn’t fall into that behavior.

[@terranempire2]

This is the one I have been looking for!!

[@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu]

I had one and it took forever to sell.

[@terranempire2]

Minong Maniac I Meant the Video.

[@Enthymene]

10:59 Ian: 👍 Ian's Thumb: I lived, bitch!

[@brazilian733]

send it to Demolition Ranch

[@347Jimmy]

7:58 one for the floor gods 😂