WandaVision is Great...Until It Isn't

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[@22freedom33]

There are 3 types of Wandavision watchers: Those who wanted the first 3 episodes to last longer, those who hated the first 3 episodes, and those who expected Twin Peaks 2 Electric Bugaloo

[@PlatinumAltaria]

The sitcom thing kinda wore out its welcome. Having characters acting out drama that we know is going to be meaningless later on is not a good idea.

[@gloomy_nightflower7007]

Is it weird that I am all of those :/

[@ItsStephJM]

I actually didnt mind both!

[@statusfied7575]

Last one for me

[@jimjimmy8900]

@@gloomy_nightflower7007 yes

[@vulcan930]

I love how everyone’s biggest criticism of the show is the fact that there’s not enough sitcom and too much marvel

[@AqwDragulum]

Surface level MCU fans would say the complete opposite lmao

[@shawerful5209]

but weren't people hating the fact that the series was a sitcom? and now they want more sitcom? people are a bunch of hypocrites.

[@uhoh6706]

@@shawerful5209 I don’t know why people watched Marvel related media and then get shocked when it returns back to big super hero fights. It’s like watching the Harry Potter series and criticizing it for using magic during important duels

[@swiftyoooo]

Coughs in surface level marvel fan and you are correcr

[@r.j.tammaro8383]

@@shawerful5209 yeah most of the SWORD stuff sucked

[@mrcuriosity7424]

The title is like a murder documentary Narrator: “John was a good kid. Until he wasn’t”

[@_mylo_xyloto_1816]

"Alice and Mikayla were best friends... Until they weren't"

[@Chillllllllllllllllllllllll]

"Abraham Lincoln was alive... Until he wasn't..."

[@caesario9]

"Human were smart, until they wasn't "

[@theguywithsomething8634]

@@caesario9 Pfft, no we weren't

[@thetyrantking8042]

People live forever, except when they dont

[@clementine1827]

I thought Wanda was so lost in grief she didn’t even know she created a whole nother world because she didn’t want to face reality but then they revealed she knew the whole time and it got real dark

[@angles4307]

I think she wasn't aware in the beginning, but then later realized it.

[@angles4307]

I think that's why she tells "Pietro" that she just remembered feeling lost

[@Casimenori]

The biggest misconception I keep seeing is that people think Wanda created Westview. Wanda’s magic created westview on its own without her knowing. She was Felt grief and infinite nothingness and lost control of her powers which allowed it to act on its own accord.

[@filipvadas7602]

Say what you want, but Vision defeating his "evil self" with philosophy and logic was a TREAT

[@sarahnkanu]

The best part of their whole battle ,! For sure

[@TheDarknash]

I loved the paradox he uses to convince him

[@cranberryman99]

Best part of the episode.

[@projekttaku1]

yes that was just *chefs* *kiss*

[@suntzu8168]

we are boat

[@thejungwookim]

"Doctor Strange should've checked it out" *Wanda will return in Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness*

[@Proprietor11]

*Directed by Robert D. Weide*

[@spiralyt309]

@@Proprietor11 *Sam Raimi

[@erronblack8266]

It's what happens when you're a Marvel fan who doesn't even look into the lore. Schaffrrillas didn't do his homework and blamed the exam for being too hard.

[@Proprietor11]

@@spiralyt309 *Produced by Kevin Feige*

[@anthonyglover4767]

@@erronblack8266 kinda true and at the same time, no. There are fans out there that don’t want to know movies in the work until trailers come out. My family was like that until phase 3 of the MCU. Now we are always looking for info on the next movies way in advance.

[@abigailthompson838]

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who liked the sitcom episodes. It wasn’t boring at all to me like some people seems to think.

[@Johnald26]

Yea i stopped watching once the show turned to color

[@enzog1078]

@@Johnald26 this is dumb too

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

@@Johnald26 you do realize sitcoms did not stop when colors appears? 💀

[@dimond360_]

I personally loved the sitcom and the series as a whole myself

[@saucevc8353]

The sitcom jokes unironically slapped.

[@meltyflapjack]

I don’t think that having an ending battle is bad necessarily, but I would have loved it if it had been set in switching sitcom eras. I just think it would have been cool to see a cartoony superhero fighting a cartoony supervillain go to a comedy skit

[@jackdavenport5011]

This is exactly how I feel about it. I feel like they went full Marvel-movie on the ending rather than sticking to the sitcom settings which made the show feel so unique in the first place. It wasn't too bad, just a lot of wasted potential which they missed a chance to use.

[@ktownshutdown21]

That actually woulda been pretty cool, not gonna lie, haha. It'd be like the portal fight from Thor 2, except they keep shooting through the scenes they did and add a few more cameos settings like for The Office or Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

[@TheJackedOLantern]

@@jackdavenport5011 To be fair, that HAS always been what they advertised what the show was going to be like, even in the early interviews way back from Endgame. Paul has said a lot of "It's so wacky and zany in the first few episodes until it becomes the staple Marvel movies we all know." So I guess to them, it stuck its landing.

[@thebag2609]

I think they saved that for the end so it could make you feel emotional for all the things vision and scarlet have been trough together. (BTW for people just going through comment section, sorry for spoilers)

[@Aresie271]

I also don’t understand what he means by bad cgi, it looks fine

[@steelyram1459]

Oh yea, time to stop everything I’m doing and listen to the funny crab man talk about the funny marvel show

[@kameronmiller2226]

Might as well be my job at this point

[@VlazeSkylax]

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[@glendarjj3991]

'The funny crab man' should be shaffrillas new name

[@DourFlower]

Now he has to talk about My Name is Earl and why crab man is the best

[@deanochannel]

Perfect comment

[@Kable10]

You have all valid points but honestly the CGI looked amazing in the final episode considering this is show isn’t really on a full movie budget

[@TrippaMazing87]

True

[@Josh-yk9uf]

Lol yes it is, each episode costed around 25 million to produce. Feige himself that the D+ shows are all big budget and will be receiving movie-level production on-par with the rest of the MCU.

[@beastywolf7296]

@@Josh-yk9uf to get movie quality cgi like the MCU movies 25 million per episode is nothing and the cgi was still pretty good.

[@spectralquill1810]

The hex was still set in 2010s so the mediocre-quality flying made sense

[@Jokin_Jake]

I didnt think the cgi looked bad and the "bad editing" he mentioned with wanda walking super fast was a reference to age of ultron and i don't think he knew that there was a valid reason for it.

[@SeanEncarnado]

At least we’re all in agreement that Jimmy Woo is the best part of the outside world

[@lillrice27]

True

[@neptuneex_]

facts here. if someone doesn't like his stuff, i don't understand them.

[@moondok]

darcy

[@SeanEncarnado]

@@moondok second best

[@moondok]

@@SeanEncarnado ill settle for her being second i like jimmy but darcy just a bit more

[@CarlieMae]

Darcy tells Monica that each time she goes through the barrier, her cells are being rewritten on a molecular level. It’s safe to assume that going through the barrier enough times could’ve mutated her cells in a way that gave her powers.

[@Asdfgh-xr6qw]

Mutations generally only help to kill you. I get that it’s Marvel, we obviously shouldn’t expect it to be realistic, but the way Monica got her powers just seemed lazy.

[@Robloxman226]

@@Asdfgh-xr6qw "Mutation" in this context means a supernatural imputation on Monica's DNA. Considering the rules of this universe it's not hard to buy that contact with Wanda's magic could affect people this way.

[@Hi-ky2wd]

I like your theory

[@nylajereb4523]

Iron man: wears a iron suit Hulk: nuclear energy Vision: a robot Monica: i walked through a mAgIcAl wAlL

[@homestuck_official]

@@nylajereb4523 How is that any different from the Hulk lmao.

[@brianpak3393]

I feel like marvel isn’t going to put a big finale or a big villain in their series and save them for the movies. The series are probably for character development for the supporting marvel characters

[@KoolKukumber]

Yeah, movies make more money after all. This was more for development and to build hype for the upcoming movies.

[@jayydexter]

Yes they made a statement that Disney plus series will not have any major reveals rather they will set up the major reveals that will be showed in movies (that way you don’t have to watch the series to understand the next movies)

[@francisfatta]

That’s what I’ve been thinking. I feel the movies are going to be the larger stories with them being sequels to past films, more introductions to new heroes, and movies for established heroes who should’ve gotten it years ago. Meanwhile, the series’ are going to give more focus to heroes who haven’t gotten much of their own screen time, along with also introducing new heroes, but in more extended stories

[@jamesleodelacruz]

How come he said the cgi was bad

[@iamakent8376]

Which they've said this whole time! All the fanfiction that came out about mutants was always obviously never gonna happen when Feige himself has said you don't need to watch the shows to understand the movies.... Do people have the attention span of a goldfish or are they just stupid?

[@DendyJungle]

This didn't need a villain. Her depression and selfishness was the villain

[@Andrews13channel]

grief* she didn't do anything selfish, unless you consider accidentally bringing him back and not wanting him to go selfish

[@nahum3557]

@@Andrews13channel Well, knowingly trapping people just to make her fake reality seem more real is a bit rude

[@helloill672]

@@Andrews13channel she trapped an entire town to be the supporting cast in her sitcom against their will

[@lukethelegend9705]

But Agatha was manipulating that. Although to be fair Agatha’s motivation didn’t make much sense.

[@Andrews13channel]

@@helloill672 Yeah she didn't even do it willingly, her grief just kinda swallowed up a whole town. I'm sure she wasnt aware of the pain she was causing until Vision mentioned it and she witnessed it firsthand. she started being selfish AFTER agatha asked her to take it down and she didn't

[@thomasglass7223]

“The mysteries were cooler than the reveals” instantly made me think of LOST.

[@jacktalksmedia3660]

I think people were too caught up in the ~mysteries~ of Lost when it was always more about the characters and their growth rather than being caught up in nonsense questions that were answered in the show like "but what about the polar bears???" With WandaVision, it was about they mystery of what was happening just as much as it was about exploring grief, but unfortunately they couldn't find a good way to explore the grief without tearing down all the mystery

[@lpgoodgamer7137]

I mean the reveals weren’t mind blowing but at least they made sense

[@Colelord]

@@lpgoodgamer7137 I personally really loved Lost, especially the first seasons. But in the end it just seemed tlike they did so many mysteries and cliffhangers that they forgot some themselfes. The polar bear was never explained and stuff and that was really dissapointing. still a good show

[@Silverheart575]

The cgi was completely fine. Everyone always says the cgi is bad even when the cgi isn’t bad.

[@clarkstrange2142]

I had no problems with the cgi. It looked good. I don’t see where he’s coming from this. Like, I could tell the Black Panther CGI wasn’t the greatest, and this was miles better. Plus he doesn’t even mention how the fight isn’t even really a DBZ laser fight as that’s all a ruse for Wanda to cast runes. I thought that was really smart. Maybe that’s just me tho

[@knigistudios9430]

@@clarkstrange2142 me too

[@reneerodriguez7368]

@@clarkstrange2142 yeah, that...that train fight in Black Panther could've used a little bit more time in the studio.

[@clarkstrange2142]

@@reneerodriguez7368 indeed

[@lishan4657]

And here you are, always saying the cgi is not bad when it's actually bad. What a twist

[@mclekfkeiwdisidido6858]

Agatha: a fine twist villain Hayward: THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE

[@brunolinares604]

Facts. Hayward went from your professional friendly companion to Thunderbolt Ross 2.0 in the span of an episode!

[@QuackenInsanity]

Wanda's fictional child who poses no threat: Exists Hayward: "So anyway I started blasting"

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

@@QuackenInsanity I fired and I missed

[@jaylan7847]

Agatha wasn't really a twist villain. She was quite predictable actually. I don't know a single person who didn't find her suspicious.

[@mclekfkeiwdisidido6858]

@@jaylan7847 predictability doesn’t define a twist villain just watch the schrafillas Disney twist villains vid and I’m saying this not on a moody manner Love some random internet guy

[@caitlinboone5409]

The fact that you didn’t mention Agathas complete BOP of a theme song-

[@edoardoluppi6455]

I was thinking the exact same

[@TacoIndom]

I mean, it WAS Agatha all along, after all...

[@lishan4657]

Because it's boring already, everyone talking about it, exhausting

[@santiagobarreraruiz7280]

@@lishan4657 why do you think Is borring Its pretty good for me

[@lishan4657]

@@santiagobarreraruiz7280 then I'm happy for u, but for me it's boring already, like I said, she is everywhere I'm fed up with her persona even though I liked her in the show.

[@natalierivera5276]

Honestly I felt that they didn't need Agatha. I thought the whole series was pointing to Wanda being the villain and that was super compelling all on it's own. Wanda having a psychotic break and dealing with that in a really twisted way was so interesting to me, but then you lose that when a lot of that's blamed on Agatha.

[@thehallowayboys]

I get what you mean but then the show would lose easily its most entertaining character imo

[@homestuck_official]

To be fair, it IS Wanda having a psychotic break for the most part, Agatha just nudges her in the direction she wants. Which tbh does beg the question of why she even exists. I can easily accept stuff like pseudo-Pietro and Sparky and his death and proposed rebirth as just blips of loss of control. Honestly her going out of the barrier and telling the cops to leave her alone was, to me, a more powerful reveal than Agatha's, as we learn that, even if we're not sure of just how much conscious control she has over the anomaly now, if any, she knows about it and is content with it

[@joo8069]

@@homestuck_official agreeed!

[@evervirescent]

i liked the idea of wanda subconsciously trying to bring back pietro, and just overall getting too used to filling in the missing parts of her life with fake realities to the point where she does it without realizing for every little thing she misses so i was kind of disappointed when i found out it was agatha all along

[@SkeletonBeleton]

I think Sam Raimi agreed

[@bootsnhopscotch]

“Did you see it? Of course you did.” *me who doesn’t have Disney Plus:* .__.

[@brandongamingtv7545]

Disney+ isn't available in my country yet 😭 edit: disney+ hotstar arrives to my country on 1st June. edit 2: its here!

[@yuilinkmat9469]

Just use a pirated version, it's way easier

[@beneficier3432]

I don't think you need Disney Plus to watch it

[@giseler.7137]

Me who really doesn't care at all for Marvel.

[@swordsman1137]

Here we are, the people who not subscribing to duhplus.

[@merrygoat]

I swear those transitions to sponsors are getting smoother every time

[@michaelvigil3436]

About as smooth as sandpaper

[@mistymiller5761]

Hey it’s my fav GameCube meme creator

[@hibuycryguysighwhy345]

Mean they’re getting more smooth AND more garbage

[@NotChrizzy]

Yep

[@NotChrizzy]

@@hibuycryguysighwhy345 wait what

[@spooderman6312]

disney boss: "how much confusion do ya want" writers: *yes*

[@euphoriccolors5372]

you forgot : Writers : yes Disney : no people are stupid and want MARVEL, Just explain everything in episode 4

[@glendarjj3991]

How much disappointed theories fo you want? Writers: yes

[@gonhunter3994]

DC with Doom Patrol: *hysterical laugh*

[@funnysonicman]

*please stand by*

[@AFestiveDude]

@@gonhunter3994 This is slightly off topic, but still related. I've seen people complain about how Rita Farr's(Elasti-Girl) character in Doom Patrol is weaker than how she is in the comics and how that's lame. I know not everyone thinks like this, and I understand feeling disappointment for a lack of "action" and superpowers being displayed in a hero show. Nonetheless, I feel sad when some people say Rita's a worse character because of her insecurity and lack of finesse with her powers. The entire show thrives upon morally questionably people with troubled pasts dealing with their insecurities, and it eloquently displays themes of family, self-love, and redemption. Rita is made FAR more compelling and relatable beecause of her comical (but good hearted) attempts at heroism and her deep self loathing. The show isn't just that. It's a fantasy show with tons of mystical, cosmic, and scientific wonders and horrors and embraces that as a part of its identity. However, when some fans complain about all the dialogue and slow moving character arcs (which is valid criticism), I feel like they're missing out on the beauty of the show. Because, not everyone would fit into typical archetype of a "confident hero", and not everything needs to be action packed with witty dialogue and epic fights. I'd rather have some slightly under choregraphed fight scenes that specifically show characters' motives and shortcomings than a bunch of entertaining, but ultimately emotionless, action sequences (not everything with heroes is like this). Doom Patrol isn't perfect, but it's underrated and deserves more praise. Character is king.

[@boriskalashnikov489]

I feel like Agatha being treated as the villain was kinda unfair bc she never did anything hugely evil, especially nothing as bad as Wanda herself

[@thehallowayboys]

This.

[@Timothy_-ve2zp]

I think Agatha’s mother would have to disagree with you

[@Jjjjjjjames]

@@Timothy_-ve2zp "Pfft, homicide. It's not that bad." - Agatha after killing all the witches

[@mikemorro140]

she killed Sparky

[@andrewlance3898]

@@Jjjjjjjames Those witches were too dumb to live. "She's absorbing our magic! Better shoot more magic at her!"

[@holabuenosdias28030]

My issue with wandavision is the aspect of "tv sitcom" slowly disappearing, I really liked how the sitcoms were, but in the finale it just felt like another marvel ending, other than that, it was good

[@Gamelover254]

The theme of the sitcoms was to show Wanda’s escape from reality. Reality returning to the normal MCU at the end was to show she has broken out of her delusion.

[@Ignasimp]

@@Gamelover254 exactly. I wouldn't have made any sense to keep the sitcom format.

[@joshentertainment2]

I like it much much better than she hulk

[@OwlBard]

Honestly I think that made sense because that was Wanda finally breaking free of her imaginary world..

[@tommyatwell380]

I agree with most stuff but the “where was Dr. Strange” question is something I had grown more upset about until I realized one thing. If Dr. Strange (the only character that would have any reason to notice it happening) could tell it was happening, he could also sense Wanda. He’s been gone for 5 years and has a lot of magical shiz to clean up, and so he had to say “look, Wanda is there. If it’s not sorted out in like a week, once I’ve solved these other 40 problems, I’ll go check it out.”

[@GalazyProductions]

Yeah ikr! Like these heroes have sh!t do besides helping out another hero in their solo movies/shows. I hate this complaint, clearly the other heroes have to do other things.

[@americanseal7683]

Yea I hate when people bring up “ where are the other heroes” this is at least a week after the blip, I feel a sudden way change in the world population would be a little more important than a dead city in New Jersey

[@lainiwakura1776]

@@americanseal7683 It's 3 weeks. Says so in episode 4.

[@GalazyProductions]

@@americanseal7683 Yeah

[@GalazyProductions]

@@lainiwakura1776 Well still, all the heroes have to deal with a lot of stuff

[@LegitEliminator]

Wandavision directly ties into Spiderman - No Way Home and Doctor Strange 2.

[@enderdragon9752]

oh wait- :0

[@gusovici]

Does it tie into Spider-Man? I knew about the DS one from the very announcement, but I wonder whether it ties into Spider-Man, and how. If it does

[@IcyDiamond]

Maybe Dr. Strange will help Wanda and Spidey with multiverse situations, The Spider Verse, and getting Wanda’s kids back respectively

[@justarandomguy378]

@@gusovici IF the rumors turn out to be true, Spider-Man No Way Home will be Peter collaborating with DS to un-do what Mysterio did and get him back his secret identity, doing this through time jumps? time travel? And since Scarlet Witch is going to be DS 2 main villain she might have something to do with the third spidey movie, but only **IF** it turns out to be true, and that's a big if

[@gusovici]

@@justarandomguy378 she's confirmed to be in the movie, but I doubt she's the villain, especially since Strange has more than enough villains for a good story (if anything, Mordo is still out there taking powers off the sorcerers). Also, secret identities were never a big deal in the MCU and I'd like it to be kept that way. This doesn't mean that Spidey won't wish to revert his secret identity scandal, given that "he killed a fellow superhero"

[@TacoRoco]

I think Wanda Vision used a story setting that was too big for their intended scope. Hayward could've been a real antagonist with legitimate concerns over Wanda's terrifying powers without turning into the Big Bad corrupt government. We got TWO 'villain with the same powers as the hero', but at least vision had a satisfying resolution. White Vision feels like a major gap in the conclusion. WV was very creative, but ran out of gas way too soon

[@disconsolate3235]

I felt like he was left open intentionally. I don't doubt we'll be seeing him again, possibly in a crucial moment involving Wanda

[@Jjjjjjjames]

Wait he ran out of gas? Welp, guess he fell to his death

[@joshuafass5841]

Flying sky battle is pretty generic i'll admit. Should of have the two of them running through the town fighting each other with common sitcom tropes. Like having a bunch of nuts falling on Agatha or a Agatha tossing a bunch of lobsters at Wanda for a call back from the first episode. But it was good as is.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

I disagree, considering they ditched the sitcom approach later in the show, all of what you described would probably be a bit jarring and take away from the emotional heart behind Wanda's character (especially at the end where she says goodbye to Vision)

[@GalekC]

Well, we did get Agatha applauding like in the sixties episode

[@aminsiagian364]

Im quite disagree. Making a comedic sitcom fight as finale fight. It would anticlimaxed all the emotions, tensions, and anything else that had been building up during last episodes.

[@runningwithscissors8612]

I watched this show with my parents and they disliked the first three episodes because "nothing was happening". They actually liked episode 4 because it gave them some answers, so while I disagree with WandaVision revealing what was happening that early, I understand it was probably for audience retention.

[@Kelly_C]

it's a sitcom, nothing happens

[@theshanaman7805]

My favourite episode was the finale for a similar reason tbh I think it’s mainly because I did not find the show funny at all, i think I just don’t like jac Schaefer tbh cause captain marvel wasn’t funny either

[@martabarrales3112]

true, I loved the first three but I can see how it can be uninteresting to someone who's more caught up in how the show ties into the rest of the mcu

[@emilianoortiz8795]

@@theshanaman7805 yeah same, the first episode I didn’t find it funny at all, the second one with drunk vision was kinda funny and the third was ok. Honestly it sometimes gave me cringe the sitcom episodes.

[@theshanaman7805]

@@emilianoortiz8795 I didn’t cringe but that’s mostly because I think I lost the ability to cringe I

[@bababooey5211]

also i'm honestly a little disappointed that agatha was a genuine antagonist. she was fun of course, but i thought they were going to pull a second twist, that wanda was simply pushing agatha into the role of a villain so she wouldnt have to take accountability for her own actions

[@theonahopkins3144]

interesting. i liked agatha a lot, I thought she was a fantastic villain, but I agree that I wanted a little more time on diving into wanda's actions. not necessarily why she did it, because the show lets us know that it was a trauma response and basically an accident, but why she didn't stop it, or why she wasn't concerned. because it wasn't like agatha was controlling her. once wanda knew that she had created this world, she wanted to keep it that way no matter what, to the point where she even hurt monica and gaslit vision. wanda was not at all innocent in that and even if ppl wanted to deny that she was a true villain, i wish they spent time on what it meant that she purposefully did something wrong and made her take accountability

[@dodgie48]

That is exactly what I thought was going to happen. When they did the first reveal I totally thought Wanda just made Agatha a villain to blame her mistakes on.

[@dlsoto3568]

That would of been better

[@ravie1626]

i thought that was going to happen, too! it would've been really interesting if it did, but alas.

[@justareplica]

I have a feeling it was Agatha's goal all along to release the Scarlet Witch's, by giving the Darkhold to Wanda.

[@GabePlaysYT]

I personally enjoyed the ending and didn't mind the CGI, but I do think Agatha wasn't the best idea. Her song was mega catchy, but I think the show would have been better if it focused exclusively on Wanda as the only "villain" and watching her go through the five stages of grief. By having Agatha and a big CGI fight, it sort of takes too much away from Wanda and I also get why the SWORD guys were boring. Her Scarlet Witch outfit was really cool though. also, my friends and I all agreed that Wanda's family fighting the bad guys and doing cool poses felt very Incredibles 😂

[@afriendonline8564]

The movie theatre in I believe ep 6 lists the incredibles as one of the movies playing

[@kayleejazz1669]

I thought Agatha was going to be Wanda subconscious. Not a real witch or big bad but more or less a person still trapped in Wanda tv show but playing the antagonist. We’re shown that each episode Wanda transitioning into a different time periods for her television show, and in later American television there were stories with storylines and a lot of them involved witches or magical based tv shows. (Charmed) So Agatha would have been playing a role and Wanda is the main character so…..

[@mckennaisaperson4058]

I could have watched Wanda and Vision being in a sitcom for the whole show and be happy.

[@stoned_666]

False vision: *You have a wife and two children* White vision: *Goodbye tell them I'm going to get cigarettes!*

[@demonyckscreations9990]

I hate how much this made me laugh

[@our_illumination949]

Perfect meme format. False vision: Did you hear about Coca Cola's new employee training? White vision: Be less white... *Understandable, have a good day*

[@glendarjj3991]

False vision: Im not real. You're not real. Nothing is real. White vision: This is getting too complex for me. See ya!

[@nugget3687]

Probably because the emotions behind those memories arnt there anymore. If you kill off the soul that made vision feel emotions then give him back the memories, he's just a robot with memories of him having love for wanda, but can't feel that love.

[@truegamer_007]

White vision? More like black vision!

[@SuperWiiBros08]

I really liked the show overall, the real world sequences and figuring out the mysteries kept me more entertained and invested, it was indeed a great experience to kick in a start on phase four.

[@marshmallowvampire8503]

I agree with Schaff completely that the show was overall good, but the mysteries were better than the reveals. It's cool that we have flashbacks of how she got her powers, BUT I looked at wikipedia to see how the comics explained her powers, and she was basically born with 'Chaos' bending (something like that). Before the reveal that she got them from Hydra, I thought "Maybe she got them from the Reality stone (the red one), sense Cap Marvel got hers from a Tesseract powered engine.🤔". In short, it's a situation of "showing less is more. It leaves a bit to the imagination."😊😊

[@Tasspyboi]

@@marshmallowvampire8503 she was born with the powers, it was explained with the bomb in her house, she could use the power to a lesser degree which was why the bomb never blew up. And she had the power in hanced by the mind stone to the pointed when she can use chaos magic to her full extent... If you really wanted to be hypes by the ending or by the whole Agatha character you must be a comic book fan.. not staying that you aren't but by what you put it seems you aren't

[@itzzbowserjr]

@@marshmallowvampire8503 I mean, we’ve known she got her powers from the mind stone since Age of Ultron by Hydra, this show actually just showed that she’s always had them since she was a kid (that’s why the bomb didn’t go off) but to a lesser degree and she didn’t know about them.

[@cuvo7285]

I beg to differ. The real world sequences completely sucked me out of the immersion, it treated the audience as if it were stupid. The pay off would have been much bigger if the people inside the bubble were the ones to figure it out, but the lab scenes felt really forced and unnecessary. IMO, of course.

[@edenbru11]

Agreed I understand of the critiques of the show but I overall really liked the show the mystery and world building were great and I liked pretty much all of the characters (including Darcy I know people don’t like her but I think she's funny)

[@brandonschannel8702]

Ok, so I’ve noticed a pattern Schaffrillis’ tastes in his reviews. Nothing negative just an observation. He doesn’t tend to like characters that are majorly comic relief or otherwise Overly comedic and positive in scenarios where they likely shouldn’t be. He didn’t like Sisu for the same reasons or at least similar reasons he doesn’t like Darci here. Again, perfectly reasonable to dislike these characters, everyone has opinions this is simply an observation.

[@memistcentral2044]

Nice profile flag

[@brandonschannel8702]

@@memistcentral2044 oh, thx 😊

[@noobmasterruben5167]

This is also the reason he hates Olaf(post Frozen 1 becoz he is less compelling), Barley and Mater

[@FlyingFocs]

In fairness though, I feel like with Darcy, she was also in two other movies which, while people are free to disagree with, she wasn't that funny there either. Maybe she's better here (I'll admit ti having not seen it because I don't have Disney+), but I'll also admit that when I saw she was here, I thought, "really, you brought her back?"

[@juliagiles1547]

I think Darcy was used better in this show bc she played off of two people who, like, actually needed her input. In the Thor movies, Jane and the old guy were the “smart ones” who helped Thor figure out what’s going on, and while Darcy kind of worked as the levity in the weird situation (and did have some funny moments, like tasing Thor), Thor was arguably better and more charming comic relief. By the second movie you kind of realized that you could write her out of the script and nothing would change. In Wandavision, not only is she needed to figure out the main mystery of the show, but she acts as the brains to the “normal people” trio, with Monica as the brawn who takes action when others won’t, and Jimmy as the heart who never stops trying to help the people around him. She even has an actual moment of levity/not-comedy with Vision when she reassured him of his and Wanda’s love for each other. Overall she works better here because her inclusion in the plot is justified and her dynamic with her main trio is more balanced. I honestly want to see more of her and her friendship with Jimmy and Monica after this, which is something I never thought after the Thor movies. (Especially Thor 2, bleh.)

[@channeleditor9335]

I don't understand why anyone would hate the first three episodes, it was in the ads and everything. The point was that it was supposed to be charming and all that, we all knew that going in

[@KARYFLAGS]

I dad actually hate it, it’s because he had this idea of “oh an Avengers show, must be full of fights and powers and blah blah” Then when he saw the first episode he was like “nahh this it’s too cutesy and girly for me” I keep pushing him to watch the series but he won’t do it, specially now that falcon and winter soldier started, he love that show now I give up 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@LightPink]

Not everyone watches ads

[@marshallturner6085]

I personally feel that Dr. Strange or any other avengers showing up wouldve overshadowed the main focus of the show, Wanda and Vision.

[@jonahblack6675]

not if executed correctly, could've helped actually

[@tossboy2643]

plus it wouldn't really make sense either, the generic director man was purposefully keeping the westveiw bubble a secret so he could revive vision. no one other than sword knew about it

[@Leo-ox1rd]

a cameo in the end of doctor strange offering himself to be a teacher to wanda would actually be dope and would make sense in the narrative of the series

[@revenant7005]

And he acts like superheroes from other movies not showing up to help in a new movie/TV show about a superhero is a new and obscene thing. If you're going to make the argument that "where was X when Y" you should do the same for practically every superhero movie in existence. It's a very unfair criticism. Not to mention that just making the argument alone is bland and not fun.

[@IsaacIsaacIsaacson]

@@tossboy2643 yes, but we also know that Agatha detected all the spells being cast, so it makes no sense that Dr Strange didn't also. Even if it was just an ending cameo would've been better

[@rachelthornton4442]

I really wish they’d stuck with the sitcom thing to the end. Even when the hex was coming apart, instead of just a sky beam in a modern time with a CGI battle, couldn’t they have had Agatha and Wanda battle throughout the sitcom ages? Imagine the flashes of purple and red magic in the black-and-white world. Imagine if their battle got interrupted by a commercial. There was so much potential with this premise!

[@Savataric]

That’s cool and if u check MCU direct on twitter they said they rewritten the finale the most times and I believe corona made the finale fell due to the restrictions because we were going to get a side plot with Monica and the twins and Doctor strange supposed to appear

[@AdallynD]

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FUCKING AWESOME

[@rachelthornton4442]

@@Savataric that’s understandable! CGI is much easier to do with corona than a practical fight. It did kinda look like both women were edited in separately at times

[@Savataric]

@@rachelthornton4442 yeah but I’m disappointed that corona made so many things go different than it was planned for wandavision

[@lukethelegend9705]

I loved it for the whole thing. That’s just my opinion.

[@melaniey.5596]

I’ll be honest, I loved the part where Darcy, Woo and Monica worked together, those were a power trio. lol for me Woo and Darcy was everyone in the audience. And Wanda and Vision where such a good duo. What a shame that we might not see them like that again. But the casting of Pietro I admit was a power move lol.

[@dnstunes277]

Nah, i agree with a lot of your points except the “bad cgi” that battle was sick

[@juancarloshernandez2333]

It didn't look bad but it was kinda generic tbh. Like... the show was pretty unique and different from everything else in the MCU, so having the climax be a generic battle that looks like it could belong in any superhero show is kind of underwhelming.

[@dnstunes277]

@@juancarloshernandez2333 True, i would have liked it if they did a bit more of the sitcom theme but in my opinion, the cgi wasn’t bad and the battle was good

[@edgymoji8260]

I was hoping the two witches fighting lul be based on a little more illusion and trickery as opposed to just “Imma shooting ma laser beams”. Minus missiles, I wouldn’t be able to distinguish how that fight was any different from two people fighting with iron mans’ suit.

[@iAmNovaFilms]

Ye the battle was ight but there was definitely some bad CGI in certain places throughout the show... surprisingly bad from a Marvel show

[@lishan4657]

The CGI was awful even before the battle, the begging of the final episode and you can see it. I thought done scenes were unfinished or sth.

[@imicca]

WandaVision 2: wanda becomes youtuber And has to record 15 apologies

[@akirakurusu861]

“I made.. a severe lapse in my judgement.”

[@hampter460]

I made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgement, and I don’t expect to be forgiven. I’m simply here to apologize. What we came across in the woods that day was obviously unplanned. The reactions you saw on tape were raw; they were unfiltered. None of us knew how to react or how to feel. I should have never posted the video. I should have put the cameras down and stopped recording what we were going through. There's a lot of things I should have done differently but I didn't. And for that, from the bottom of my heart, I am sorry. I want to apologize to the internet. I want to apologize to anyone who has seen the video. I want to apologize to anyone who has been affected or touched by mental illness, or depression, or suicide. But most importantly I want to apologize to the victim and his family. For my fans who are defending my actions, please don't. I don’t deserve to be defended. My goal with my content is always to entertain; to push the boundaries, to be all-inclusive. In the world live in, I share almost everything I do. The intent is never to be heartless, cruel, or malicious. Like I said I made a huge mistake. I don’t expect to be forgiven, I’m just here to apologize. I'm ashamed of myself. I’m disappointed in myself. And I promise to be better. I will be better. Thank you.

[@lightyagami1058]

@@hampter460 You forgot to open up with a deep exaggerated sigh.

[@hampter460]

@@lightyagami1058 I cant believe I forgot that...oh wait have you seen my water bottle and eye drops? I think I lost them

[@lightyagami1058]

@@hampter460 🚰 💧 There you go, good luck.

[@SILK97]

The lack of accountability for Wanda & Rambeau’s convo about Wanda’s “sacrifice” were real turn offs for me

[@firstnamelastname5716]

I know! Like sure she was mourning and didn’t mean to do it at first, but she still did it and continued doing it after she knew what was going on

[@chancephillips5411]

I do think this will be a thing in the MCU going forward tho - Wanda had MAJOR villain vibes in the final post credits scene.

[@somerando5961]

but like what is anyone suppose to do it's not like they can just arrest her

[@cdplayer6637]

You guys do know that Monica Rambeau is Ms.Universe right?

[@tempest2789]

@@cdplayer6637 Spectrum*

[@16MrLeo]

Monica literally got her powers the same way she did it in the comics, dude, that was actually awesome!

[@KARYFLAGS]

Exactly!!!! When people don’t know the comics or the whole story behind each character 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

[@badabing9402]

I still don’t like that just walking through the wall gave her powers. It seems so random that walking through the wall that’s supposed to transform you gave her powers. It doesn’t matter that that’s how she got the powers in the comics, it’s still weird to me. Wanda already has her backstory changed and how she got her powers so why can’t that happen to Monica?

[@manojkumarverma1615]

@@badabing9402 she has crossed the hex three times so her dna got changed by the hex border Monica is the only one who has crossed the hex more than one time

[@badabing9402]

@@manojkumarverma1615 why would going through the wall multiple times change someone to the point of having powers. The only change that has happened to people who pass the wall is physically different clothes. If anything, going through the wall should change you to the point where who you are in the hex is who you are outside of it, not giving people powers.

[@manojkumarverma1615]

@@badabing9402 because the people who have passed it have only passed one time like Darcy and sword agents They did not pass it more than one time because Wanda opened the hex Wanda opened the hex in the last episode Monica's spectrum and dna was changed due to the hex(television ) type border Like the clothes were rewritten when you pass one or two times, your dna is rewritten too This is how she got her powers

[@infjelphabasupporter8416]

I loved the entire series. I don't really why people dislike the finale, I thought it lived up to the rest.

[@rosshauler7688]

Idk the show up to that point had been really trippy and unique and the finale battle was so bland and generic. Imagine if we got a fight like in far from home where mysterio is messing with peter

[@Feezee223]

Same. I thought it was super good.

[@MegaDynamiteDan]

@@Feezee223 Nope it was bad

[@Feezee223]

@@MegaDynamiteDan I said I thought it was good. I was just saying my opinion.

[@itss_baudelaire]

I believe everyone thought it was bad bc the show was starting to build up for this big surprise character and the actor of vision built it up too but the finale crushed all of our hopes especially with the hope of quicksilver coming back lots of people thought that mcu was gonna tie X-men into the universe but nope just a disappointing finale but basically our theory’s and expectations got the best of us

[@SoggySlopster08]

One constant I’m noticing is EVERYONE loves jimmy wu lol

[@justthinking650]

how exactly can yoo not like jimmy woo

[@zenzeph926]

He was perfect

[@Shizzy5321]

People can have different opinions on anything... but not Jimmy Woo

[@lukavidakovic2385]

Its the wooniverse

[@moonmannd7501]

He's so much better here than Ant Man

[@waterlemonandfriends]

Doctor Strange was reportedly going to be in the finale, and the finale was actually going to be a lot different, including like, the rabbit turning into a demon and everything, but things had to be restructured due to Covid and their limited ability to film.

[@IcyDiamond]

That’s disappointing :(

[@willowbird]

I would love to see concept art for the rabbit demon

[@Spud17593]

Where are the sources that this is confirmed?

[@donato8983]

@@willowbird It would be the monty python rabbit

[@clydu91]

@@IcyDiamond Do you believe anything told to you on the internet?

[@saspa2366]

Can someone tell me what exactly Agatha did that was “her all along?” Like I still never figured it out

[@gummiebear2020]

I'm guessing that she was constantly forcing Wanda to try and acknowledge what she was doing. Sparky dies, why can't she just make him come back to life like everyone else? Quicksilver shows up and makes her question her life as well, which was sent in by Agatha, and she also controlled the magic show??? I don't know what the point of that is lol

[@gabrielfrancisco7161]

I know right?! I've seen in the documentary that the reason why the decades changed was because something went wrong. It reminded me of "Agatha all along", but I still can't see what she did, like, I can see Pietro, killing Sparky, but in the other episodes, things seemed to went wrong because of anything else, so yeah, I haven't figured out too. (and btw, if there are any mistakes in my grammar, please forgive me, english isn't my first language)

[@kingtide69]

She basically was sowing seeds. She’s the one that subconsciously convinced her to have children. She’s the one that drew out visions suspicions by manipulating the others, and revealing Rambeau as an outsider. She killed the dog, and brought back Pietro. She also tried to draw out information from Wanda. Basically she was just trying to figure out how Wanda’s powers worked, what they encompassed, and generally just learning about her, while also slowly trying to bring her back to reality.

[@Jjjjjjjames]

Agatha was the one making catchy songs all along

[@Occultist_Anonymous]

It was good but it really didnt need a bad guy, easily could've just had wanda confronting her own evil

[@Gamelover254]

They needed to set up Agatha though. She’s basically Wanda’s teacher in the comics.

[@mashka1572]

"I like the characters, except Darcy" So, you chose violence.

[@barackobama6858]

She is the worst character though.

[@r-s3573]

She’s grating

[@abnormallylargemonkey9334]

She’s annoying but I think that’s because of the poor writing/plot

[@Longshanks1690]

@@barackobama6858 Hayward is the worst character. I don't even know what he wants.

[@Andy-ld8zk]

Violence isn't the answer, it's a question and the answer is yes.

[@salt6519]

Honestly Agatha stole the whole show for me, her entire character was just enjoyable from start to finish. Her theme song slaps harder than most Disney villain songs

[@Willow-ej7sc]

Yup... it’s another the boys homelander esc scenario

[@PlatinumAltaria]

That's a really weird way to phrase "diverted all attention away from the main characters and made sure that they had zero interesting character moments."

[@LanceSKLTR]

Too bad she didn't have any actual motivation for stealing Wanda's powers. Her acting was amazing from start to end. If they hadn't rushed the series...

[@davideventili2881]

I think Agatha Is a wasted character, she's so bland in the final episode (and the one before that too)

[@leathalizer121]

Facts

[@alyssacorrigan7917]

i was in love with almost every episode until the last one. they had such potential to do something different and unique, which they did, until they made agatha a one note boring villian and it had to end with the big bad cgi sky battle

[@Gamelover254]

I don’t know why people were expecting a more exciting battle at the end. Agatha absorbs Wanda’s powers, meaning the fight is not possible unless Wanda just spends the whole time throwing different objects at her. The “battle” was the mind games they played with eachother before they flew into the sky.

[@robertajenkins2591]

“I like the characters (except for Darcy)” I’m sorry, what?

[@caldw615]

She's kinda iritating, and Kat Dennings pretty much plays the same snarky sarcastic character type in almost every movie and TV show she has been in. If you like that type of character then you'll likely enjoy most of the stuff she's been in and if you dislike it in one thing you'll likely feel the same about everything else too.

[@ijimenez1951]

@@caldw615 Darcy is the only comic relief in a live series that I have like lol

[@spongy7426]

@@caldw615 No. Darcy gud.

[@erikgustavo9196]

Darcy is ticc

[@riverhanf490]

The reason no other heroes came is because many “retired” or took a break after the blip and also this entire show happened in a week and Hayward was keeping it secret from the public or even the other branches of government since we see him get arrested at the end so the heroes that are still active didnt have time to help or were even notified

[@getmeouttahere1209]

I think the other avengers might be scared of Wanda after what she almost did to thanos. It’s just weird how they all left her alone, especially Hawkeye who could’ve taken her in and given her a family

[@SirDot]

It's like, roughly 3 days.

[@getmeouttahere1209]

@@SirDot -9 days

[@harrylane4]

@@getmeouttahere1209 yeah didn't darcy mention that episodes air once a week somewhere, or am I just making that up

[@harrylane4]

Wasn't hayward pretty actively anti-supe throughout the entire show? Seems pretty straightforward that somebody who doesn't like supers wouldn't want any supers involved in his desecration of one of their friends' dead bodies

[@Longshanks1690]

So...why did Hayward lie about Wanda stealing the body? Did we ever get an explanation for why he did that?

[@uptoyou8454]

I'd like to think him just wanting to villainize Wanda🤷🏻‍♀️

[@eamonm5923]

yeah to make her look bad

[@platypus6810]

So people didn’t figure out that he had the body and was trying to revive it and use Vision as a weapon.

[@Longshanks1690]

@@eamonm5923 She's holding an entire town in mental slavery. Why does he need to lie about her stealing tech she doesn't have to do that more than the actual bad thing she's done?

[@ekremslayer3389]

He made fake footage so he could hide his plans to turn Vision into a full on attack bot or it was to gain authorisation to make use of his body to stop Wanda

[@Ozzieapologist]

I really loved the show, but there’s something that bothered me a little: Wanda’s ties with the Avengers were almost never explored. Is she worried about what her friends would think of her considering what she did? Is this part of why she decided to isolate herself in the end? Because she feels too ashamed to approach Clint or any of her old teammates? Does she still feel worthy of being an Avenger? I feel like next installments really should explore these plotlines if they want to put Wanda’s morality in question in a satisfying way. And I‘d also really like to see her interacting with Clint again. I enjoyed their relationship a lot despite the little screentime it had

[@Astroenby]

Literally my favorite MCU continuity nod (and I can't believe it comes from AntMan and The Wasp) is Jimmy being amazed by Antmans magic tricks and by Wandavision he's learnt it himself. That's the shit I'm here for lol

[@parkerdavis7859]

I feel like you shoulda commented on the absolutely killer “Agatha All Along” song

[@pjdixon6199]

And I killed sparky to

[@somethingunusual8456]

It's officially a sin not to comment it, it's on the bible Ps: it's not a salty comment, but since you can't hear the entonation I thought I'd be better to clarify

[@obi-onekenerdi]

But every other person in the entire existence of the world has commented on it already. Why restate the obvious?

[@IcyDiamond]

I need to to know what placement it has compared to his Top 30 Villain songs

[@1yo2many]

Donald Roark - CVMS 2026 facts

[@nicholastodd8904]

my beef with the final battle is how the whole show is about look how intricate, and unique her power is! never seen anything like it! and then the battle comes and its just energy bolts

[@benjaminwambeke9458]

That's a great point! Like, the whole point of the show is "Wow isn't this so crazy and even scary how Wanda can literally bend reality and mind control a whole town" and the finale just almost doesn't even include those elements at all?

[@Drekromancer]

@@benjaminwambeke9458 While I think this is only meant to be the first glimpse of Wanda's true power - which means that we're not going to see much of it yet - I agree that the cackling and energy bolt throwing was pretty underwhelming. However, I think that part of the final episode was small enough to tolerate, since all the other things that happened in that episode were awesome! All the character moments with Wanda, Vision, the kids, Monica, and Agent Woo were wonderful, and I think they were the main point of the episode. So I'm satisfied. (ESPECIALLY since the Vision vs. Vision battle was so fucking good.) Frankly, I'm willing to ignore a lot of mistakes in the finale, on behalf of the Vision confrontation, and with the knowledge that we're only scratching the surface of Wanda's true power. I'm not going to judge anything yet, because I know we haven't seen the final payoff. But I'm eagerly waiting for it.

[@BustyCatbot]

Wanda was using the energy bolts as a distraction so she could "miss" Agatha and create the runes on the sides of the hex, it was on purpose to use a basic attack to let Agatha's guard down while she was creating the runes

[@nicholastodd8904]

@@BustyCatbot thats a fair reason. i did enjoy the bringing back the runes part of the battle

[@BustyCatbot]

@@nicholastodd8904 I do feel like the final battle was a bit generic though. MCU movie ends on a climactic super power measuring contest, revolutionary concept

[@cierragibson8358]

6:00 Actually, Dr. Strange was trying to help her out throughout the series. The little commercials that happened after some scenes through out the series was Dr.Strange trying to contact Wanda. All of the commercials had something to do with Wanda’s life and Dr.Strange thinking she’s trapped or something like that, was hoping it would help her remember her real life.

[@mrfrostrunner5192]

For anyone wondering. Her kids are 100% coming back. I can't explain the whole story (it's fucking comics, confusing is part of the description) but both Billy and Tommy come back. They reincarnate as two other children born shortly after Wanda creates a fake reality for her and vision to live an ideal life. Yeah this show is literally just that, so I kinda expected it from the start but that's besides the point. Billy comes back and takes the name asgardian when he's recruited by a young Kang the conqueror. He later takes the name Wiccan after captain america yells at him. (He is also probably the best LGBTQ+ rep ever) Tommy comes back as a criminal who later takes the name Speed. They both join the young avengers along side Kate Bishop (confirmed for the upcoming hawkeye show) Patriot (who we've seen in trailers for falcon and the winter soldier) Hulkling (a kree Skrill hybrid who I suspect will show up in captain marvel two) and cassidy lang who we've seen already. Sorry for the rant but the MCU plans shit out way in advance. It's pretty impressive.

[@ktownshutdown21]

And speaking of which, Evan Peters as Pietro is 100% coming back once they decide to commit to bringing in the X-Men. "Oh, that Boehner thing? That was just something I made up because this universe's Quicksilver already died, so I had a secret identity to not freak people out."

[@barackobama6858]

I feel like I’m the only one interested in falcon and the winter soldier. People act like they are to smart for that show before it even comes out

[@Savataric]

Nope I’m interested it was one of the first things I was attracted too once they announced it in comic con

[@pigglesgoomshby7249]

Nope, I’m excited too, I’m ready for more Baron Zemo

[@reignzgamez1475]

Nah, it just looks bad and I've never cared for falcon. And I can tell you before I even watch it that it's basically gonna be "the falcon show" and it just looks extremely generic, I have really no expectations for it., all though I am exited to see zemo in his comic outfit

[@Savataric]

@@killerkernel3486 same

[@Cnut_the_grape]

I'm excited for it because it's acronym sounds like Fat Wus

[@Lufe_Stark]

how is the cgi battle bad lmao i never understand why people hate cgi

[@chlewey1280]

same. i thought her transformation looked hella cool

[@clanmitchell9173]

Her using her Age of Ultron powers again was pretty sick

[@someanimal3506]

I think cgi fights work fine in movies like guardians of the galaxy, but here it just did not work.

[@bryanp9878]

it’s not nearly as bad as something like the black panther fight. Then again i think BP had a little more substance

[@willmungas8964]

It’s more because of the acting and choreography. A tense hand to hand or even close quarters fight feels a lot more grounded and has a lot more at stake than people flying and shooting magic beams at each other. Magic is best when it ISNT “cgi energy blasts” but rather then effects of the spell, eg objects changing or flying around. The more you use practical effects and keep fights grounded, the more realistic sense of the scale the audience has, it’s like the Superman effect where two powerful beings just smash each other around and can float and can’t really hurt each other, the fight loses all sense of realistic bounds and tension. I liked the atmospheric background effects and Wandas transformation, but the constant “aAaAAAHAHAhAAHHHHHHH” from Agnes and generic energy beams weren’t really engaging or tense at all.

[@SpaceGoat3126]

Fun fact: Doctor Strange was supposed to show up at the end of this show to help Wanda control her powers and to tease future movies. Sadly this never happened because Marvel was afraid of people accusing them of letting Dr Strange Mansplain to Wanda…that last part is actually true they were literally afraid of that.

[@noko1855]

:0 a starkid reference?? Twisted jasmine is a whole ass mood.

[@James2005.]

The until it isn’t refers to anything outside the fake reality.

[@blanketpineapple]

except for woo he's pretty cool

[@pigglesgoomshby7249]

Except Jimmy Woo tho, everyone likes Jimmy Woo

[@glendarjj3991]

Was I the only one that actually liked episode 4? Especially the beginning seeing Monica's perspective after the snap.

[@glendarjj3991]

@Jam Drew its weird because when Wandavision first 3 episodes released, all I heard were complaints about how slow it was going and that the sitcom format had gone on for way too long. And now everyone is saying those three episodes were the peak of the show.

[@Parappadarappa2]

@@blanketpineapple Darcy was entertaining in my opinion

[@Frostything]

I really wish they stuck with the original premise longer, maybe even only bringing in the real world in the show's finale. It reminded me of how I felt about Once Upon a Time, being pretty invested in the interesting ideas of the first season's mysteries only to stop watching after the secret was out and everyone started acting too much like their corresponding magical fairy tale characters.

[@MrDeloty]

Well put! Totally agree :)

[@malcolmjenkins3585]

There was supposed to be 10 eps but they had to squish those scenes into other episodes.

[@WitchChangkyun]

Once upon a time was such a let down show. After season 1 every single major plot was introducing someone who ended up being related to a major character. Which was dumb.

[@TheDanteEX]

@@WitchChangkyun Once Upon a Time is a good miniseries. After season 1 it's better left untouched. I actually like a handful of season 2 episodes, but the overall premise of the show was stronger in season 1.

[@cking4869]

It would have been really cool if the outside world was only hinted at until the end. Like, we see Wanda push Monica through the world, maybe even see her laying outside the border with the military, but that's it. Then everything else that happens just goes unexplained until the finale

[@bctalicorn809]

That comparison to Wonder Woman was absolutely perfect. They definitely share those extremely unearned, shoehorned in CGI fights that don't mesh with the pre-established message or tone of the property. I was really hoping to see more of the psychedelic character deep dives like in the second to last episode. We didn't need a big fight, and we technically got three

[@skewd2528]

I have to search 'Crab from Moana Productions' to find your channel again cause I don't know how to spell Scheferelis

[@timmitytom]

Something I've seen in every Wandavision review: *Well-deserved appreciation for Jimmy Woo*

[@welkingunther5417]

Yeah, Jimmy Woo is certainly great

[@enkays_den]

He's another Coulson nerd and drinks the respect women juice.

[@PastelN01r]

Jimmy, Darcy and Monica are the holy trinity and we need more of the trio

[@grimfin3214]

@@PastelN01r Darcy I could do without

[@GalazyProductions]

Hope he appears in Ant-Man 3!

[@corviscape]

I think wandavision's finale could've been more fleshed out if they split it up into 2 episodes so that they could give all the side characters the conclusion they deserve

[@ontasbulent5709]

I thought I’m the only one that thinks like that. Everyone I spoke to just likes it

[@Savataric]

That would’ve been better but imo I liked the finale due to its cons

[@MrFabrilol]

I've read somewhere that Darcy was going to be more prominent in the finale but Covid happened and they had to cut some things out, that's why she isn't even in the final scenes.

[@Savataric]

@@MrFabrilol yeah as well with Monica and Doctor strange they were all cut out because of corona

[@cdplayer6637]

I feel like we should’ve see where White vision went and what happened to Darcy

[@afriendofepicproportions]

To me, the real-world scenes and explanations for what was happening halfway through were perfectly placed. The first few episodes literally had me going 'So the MCU writers literally just went on Tumblr and found a 'Wanda x Vision but in the 50s AU uWu' fanfic and made it into a show? Great ಠل͟ಠ' But then it was revealed what was happening, and now I had a reason to care about the sitcom world and not just reacting like Jimmy the whole time: "It's a sitcom starring two Avengers? Why?"

[@victoriahetrick1767]

Overall my only issue with this show was that it could have been longer. I like Wanda and Vision and the actors who play them.

[@BenjiM514]

I like how despite its flaws, everyone one KZbin universally agrees Jimmy Woo is underrated

[@arandomuser9459]

Absolutely I hope Jimmy Woo appears in more marvel stuff.

[@pigglesgoomshby7249]

Jimmy Woo’s card trick is the thing everyone didn’t know they wanted to cheer for

[@somethingunusual8456]

I mean, I want a friend like Jimmy he's da best

[@IcyDiamond]

Yeah he was great!

[@NoHairStyle]

The card trick ended up being such a good play off for my boyfriend and me since we watched Antman and the Wasp a couple weeks before WandaVision came out. It was so satisfying!

[@tune-iw9qo]

i think the show was mostly like about wanda and a origin story about the “scarlet witch” im really excited because it ties in with doctor strange and the multiverse of madness, and that’s what i like about it, and i feel like everyone kinda hyped up who would come so i think everyone’s expectations about the show kinda made people disappointed because they didn’t get what they were hoping for. Other than that WandaVision is great.

[@RandomNirvanaSXE]

The show was about wanda. It explains how she becomes the scarlet witch. I couldn't be more satisfied. I loved it

[@Oakendal]

@@spiderham5514 I personally did not care for the fight scenes, but other than that I don’t see why people think that it was terrible

[@tune-iw9qo]

@@Oakendal exactly i agree 100%

[@muhammadsoleh4725]

@@Oakendal same

[@constahood2724]

@@Oakendal I agree

[@jjthepikazard212]

my favorite thing about the last episode is that vision just had a conversation about philosophy with his clone assassin

[@lxftoon1048]

About the CGI part, they had to rushed because they were behind schedule and obviously COVID. They were also supposed to have Señor Scratchy turn into a Demon and attack Monica, Ralph, Darcy and the Kids but didnt cuz its CGI.

[@master0fthearts894]

I respectfully disagree with the finale being bad overall. Someone can reply if you want to hear my detailed thoughts on it, but yeah, I respectfully disagree.

[@reanalysaa6430]

I wanna hear it.

[@seankart4459]

I agree I really liked the finale the sit come mystery stuff was really cool but it was clear that it was only going to be part of the show and that by the end it was going to be more like other marvel movies also if we got to the end of the show without Wanda using her powers in a fight that would have been super disappointing as she is one of the strongest characters in the mcu and has some of the coolest powers. Also have to say that I don’t see how the cgi in the last episode was bad I thought it looked really good

[@darthslinger1129]

Yeah,I like the finale too.Don't know why it gets too much hate

[@silverjaguar6744]

@@darthslinger1129 it gets hate because all those (fan)theories going around. By the finale, people expected Mephisto, Doctor Strange, Mutants like professor X and Magneto, Reed Richards, Evan Peters as a good Quicksilver and a 'Luke Skywalker level cameo'. When people expect so much it's impossible to make finale that's liked by everyone, seeing as you can't just introduce all those characters and follow the hype

[@master0fthearts894]

@@reanalysaa6430 I think that the argument of the finale “Not fitting the show” that it was doesn’t really work, especially since Schafrillas used Doctor Strange’s ending as a example and that was a incredibly cinematic movie with a ending that’s smarter, which literally proves that you don’t have to have the ending match the beginning, as long as it makes logical sense and it builds up to it in a satisfying way. It’s the same thing with WandaVision- I always knew that the WestView bubble would have to go out, since Wanda made it out of Trauma and grief, living without it would be symbolically overcoming all the trauma and heartbreak. In addition, it ending in an action-packed way was logical to happen- Hayward is planning on using lethal force on Wanda, and Wanda is perfectly willing to fight him, as evidenced by the scene where she made the army men point their guns at Hayward- that was a very obvious way to foreshadow the final development. Second of all, the CGI is not awful. I’ve seen mustache Superman, Doomstay, and StephenWolf- The CGI is good overall, especially if you compare it against the atrocious DC CGI. Third, the editing is NOT awful. The scene’s where it appears to be a little “Choppy” work since those only happen when Wanda is using her powers to misdirect Agatha and get inside her head- it’s supposed to feel a little weird, since it’s trippy and weird to have your head invaded by a Scarlet Witch. And all the other editing is readable, and it’s pretty good. It’s not a masterclass like the editing in The Force Awakens, but it’s pretty darn great. Also, the ending feeling different from the rest of the show- this was built up by the other episode that Schaf called “Bad.” (Which I don’t think is bad either) Essentially, we’re getting Vision to figure out what is happening, Hayward just got, what is essentially, a giant attack on his base by trying to capture all his people in a sitcom land and enslaving more humans- but we’re also getting some solid perspectives on what’s going on- Wanda capturing an entire town is viewed as bad, and with Vision gone, Wanda’s true emotional state is revealed- that of being incredibly distraught, dealing with Trauma. It shows that although she did do something horrible by capturing the town, she was grieving. It also shows that in addition to the previous Traumas, the stress piling up on her is really distorting her control. Having things be NOT a sitcom and NOT changing through sitcom-years is getting some control over her emotional state, and healing- evidenced by how in the climax, she is FORCED to confront her demons and FORCED by circumstance to heal- which is why everything is more normal and is not as weird- Wanda is confronting her Demon’s. Not to mention, the action is pretty fly- it’s not like Man of Steel, where although it’s visually interesting, it’s- PUNCH PEOPLE THROUGH BUILDINGS, PUACH THEM TO THE FLOOR, PUANCH THEM ACROSS AREAS WITH THE SAME STUFF REPEATEDLY HAPPENING UNTIL THE END- instead, the action is smarter. When Vision is fighting Weapon-Vision, they have themselves phase through each other to gain the upper hand, trying to get the fighting away from the children, (Unlike Man of Steel, in which Superman doesn’t care about how many farmers and office workers he has to sacrifice in order to defeat Zod, until the very end, where he all of a sudden cares if people die when he didn’t when hurling Zod through buildings, with *people in them.* 🙄) Wanda vs Agetha is also fun, since Agetha is using the Townspeople against Wanda, using her guilt and trauma against her, and since Agetha knows more about magic and absorbs power, it’s a situation where Wanda has more innate power than Agetha, but since Agetha has a very specific skill set, Agetha is able to easily counter it. Wanda has to be smart to gain the upper hand, and face her Truama and past sins when Agetha used the townspeople against her. Heck, the only reason that Wanda wins is by outsmarting Agetha- and the defeat of Agetha is perfect karmic justice- We have here a villain who used magic to disguise as someone else, and used the disguise to trick and manipulate Wanda. She has an advantage since she knows about magic more than Wanda. Then that Villain is defeated when Wanda used the knowledge Agetha gloatingly told her to defeat her, then punished her by trapping her to forever act in the role that she chose- it’s brilliant. Freaking brilliant. But after all the action, all the villains, the show still knows it’s heart- the relationship between Wanda Maximoff and Vision, and this beautifully painful world and truama that Wanda has- and she finally lets go, having an ending where she stops her evil acts, tries to apologize, and leaves the place where her truama resided- and accepted her role as the Scarlett Witch. Amazing ending- not as great as Endgame, but it ties enough loose ends to be a good ending while still ending openly enough to continue the MCU. I give it a round of applause. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Now, it’s not a perfect climax or episode- The children could have played a larger role, and for all of Monica’s talk about “Helping Wanda” she doesn’t really do much besides deal with Fietro and give a few lines at the end- I think it would’ve been better if Fietro was literally watching the kids, and Monica was saving them, then Monica would be with the kids when they meet up and would play a much larger role- but those moments aren’t bad, and all the other very good stuff more than makes up for it- and overall, the climax was pretty darn amazing. Overall, WandaVision is not a 7/10, it’s an 8.5 or a 9/10. 7/10 is way too low of a rating for a show that does so well and gets this much right. I also think that the episodes that cut between the military base and the bubble reality are better and serve more of a purpose than Schafrillas gives it credit for, but I’ll only talk about that if you are interested in hearing my thoughts about that too.

[@fish914]

The Ship of Theseus was a great analogy between the Visions, and I'm glad he stayed consistently good throughout.

[@xaviergonzalez44]

Excellent scene

[@kiarrapyefinch8571]

Monica didn't get powers for "no reason from walking through the barrier" If you were paying any attention you'd know she got powers because her cells had already been rewritten twice over or so and so her going through the barrier that third time is what ended up giving her powers. It wasn't for no reason, I believe they're setting her character up to be more important & reoccurring as we get deeper into phase 4.

[@cliffarroyo9554]

Mysteries are _always_ more interesting than their solutions.... so ending a big part of the mystery sooner rather than later was a good move.

[@wilberforce95]

"This show is at its best when you don't know what's going on." Couldn't agree more.

[@jaylan7847]

It's because they baited us with this "mystery" that turned out to be nothing but what people predicted in the first place, but blander.

[@osets2117]

@@jaylan7847 exactly and the worst part is we all saw the bland coming. The MCU always needs to have some big ridiculous battle that's completely counter to how the show started

[@Sam-iy8qm]

@@jaylan7847 Yep. What was Dottie referring to when she said she heard rumours about Wanda and her husband? What did Herb mean when he said “we’re all” then trailed off? Why was there so much focus on Pietro when he would only amount to a dick joke? Why did they spend so much time talking about Wanda censoring via glitches when the sitcom format wouldn’t even last long enough to figure that out? Etc etc etc. There was just a lot of dumb shit thrown at the wall to keep the viewers’ attention because the writers didn’t trust the plot to do that on its own.

[@samuelbrock]

Absolutely! Honestly, I think it would've been cool if there was no reveal at all

[@nerevarchthn6860]

@@Sam-iy8qm how is that dumb shit its just wasnt anything special u just copied random lines that meant nothing special

[@JWW-bj1sp]

I wish Marvel would understand that I don’t need to see a giant world-ending event to be entertained

[@capuchinosofia4771]

This

[@generalgrievous3731]

Spiderman: Homecoming: Am I a joke to you?

[@glipglop1412]

*Spider-Man: Homecoming, Thor, Captain America: The First Avenger, Ant-Man, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Iron Man, Captain America: Civil War, and Black Panther would like to know your location*

[@danielramsey6141]

But that's just it, this wasn't a World Ending Event. This was a Mental breakdown for Wanda, and a Greedy Witch's power hungry Curiousity at play in the Hex! It had alot of fun moments, a lot of Dark Moments and ALOT of sad moments as we delve into Wanda's Psychie. The World wasn't going to end in this. But Wanda's World was what had to go away for her to realize the truly terrifying power she had.

[@James-kv3ll]

Nothing in the show was world ending tho. Just town ending lol

[@TwentyPercentDash]

That ad segue with the "web series" was pure genius! So smooth.

[@BigNes445]

This show made vision one of my favorite new avengers. His final “fight” with white vision just being a philosophical discussion was great

[@enjoylife1671]

This show as a whole got me more invested into Wanda's and Vision's relationship compared to previous MCU movies

[@johnpaulmacaraeg1677]

Dr Strange: protects the Earth from mystical threats Also Dr Strange: Doesn't sense the chaos magic that Wanda is using

[@riograndedosulball248]

At some point i just wanted it to go 40k and see Wanda getting the BLAM for using chaos energy in Holy Terra

[@SlightyLessEvolved]

I'm betting that he was otherwise occupied, and that we'll see this in MoM.

[@Blue-Apple-fc9eo]

@@SlightyLessEvolved I Got an question what is the movie you are looking forward to in phase 4?

[@GalazyProductions]

@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo Doctor Strange 2 easily!

[@Blue-Apple-fc9eo]

@@GalazyProductions to be honest the most thing I’m really excited for is secret invasion doctor strange 2 Spiderman no way home and falcon and the winter soldier

[@FourthRulerEntity]

Couldn’t disagree more with the comparisons to Wonder-women for that finally. I will agree the tone could have been done different. Less “time to save the day” and more Wanda’s guilt in having done the thing. She’s messed up before and that affected her more somehow?

[@lightningmonky7674]

Thanks so much for saving the ads for the end 🙏🏻

[@colourlessvoid]

This community has ruined any comment section on KZbin that has quicksilver in the video. "WhO's QuIcKsIlVeR? aLl I sEe Is RaLpH bOhNeR"

[@KyrieFortune]

"heh heh... Bohner"

[@brunolinares604]

Ralph peepee

[@mikk.]

I hate how they turned him into ralph bohner. Sure it’s funny but I was really hoping it would hint to bringing the xmen into the mcu

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

@@mikk. I feel like if the original ending was kept intact we would see him again

[@Lufe_Stark]

weird how this is the first comment saying that lmao

[@adhamelmaghalawi_7320]

I’m probably the only one that really has not much of an issue with the last episode. Other than white vision just leaving and being forgotten I didn’t have too much of an issue ngl. I thought it was a good conclusion to Wanda’s arc in the series imo

[@IcyDiamond]

I feel White Vision basically being Vision devalues the ending since sure she had to say goodbye to Hex Vision but she could still get with Hex Vision so it’s not as emotional

[@adhamelmaghalawi_7320]

@@IcyDiamond yeah that’s a fair point

[@IcyDiamond]

@@adhamelmaghalawi_7320 maybe if White Vision went to destroy himself because now he was Vision but then in another movie it’s revealed he didn’t do that, then us thinking he’s dead would’ve made the finale stronger imo

[@JohnnoNonno]

@@IcyDiamond I think White Vision is very important for the plot, so that's why they put it in. I felt it was a bit less emotional too but honestly if you think about the fact that she doesn't know, I was more pissed that Vision didn't tell her than anything.

[@justarandomguy378]

@@IcyDiamond Why would Vision kill himself after regaining his conciousness? It doesn't make sense for him to do that

[@beneciotheperson]

Man imagine: "Agatha, I've come to bargain."

[@Chillllllllllllllllllllllll]

Its sad that people think the most unique show marvel has done made the MCU not unique...

[@202cardline]

The ending was not unique, which I think is the last taste in people's mind-mouth when the show is over. That's just an unfortunate film thing; never flub the ending because it colors the whole experience. (Like game of thrones) Not that Wandavision flubbed the ending, it just wasn't as tight as literally every other episode and was completely different from the rest of the episodes. I think people will focus less on the ending as time goes on and it won't be as much an issue because *the show as a whole was the most unique thing in the MCU so far.

[@TrippaMazing87]

"I like the characters, *except Darcy"* Everyone disliked that

[@runningwithscissors8612]

Nah, personally Darcy did nothing for me

[@QuackenInsanity]

Her and that one scene of Thor smashing a coffee cup were the only good things about Thor 1, I was so happy when she showed up

[@DCT-tt8ib]

I mean, Darcy has her moments, but I feel like she’s mostly just there for comedic relief and not much else. And not a lot of her jokes really land.

[@Tea-gh8cu]

uhh what's the point of being closed minded with others ppl opinions??

[@grant9637]

@@DCT-tt8ib true but also a good comic relief character.

[@reubenfuchs2747]

How is the CGI battle bad, i never understand when people say that, it looked fine to me

[@jvtechreview4756]

The budget kicked in lol

[@jaspertaylor2810]

I kinda agree with what you're saying about never understanding CGI complaints, like for me when I a sci-fi spaceship or whatever and it doesn't look perfectly photorealistic, eh, fine by me. But with Wandavision, the show goes from having all this down-to-earth, mysterious magic, sci-fi tech, and the classic aesthetics of each era of television, to having two people just sort of hovering around shooting lasers at each other. In just one episode it loses that complexity and unique feel that made it so special, and now it looks like something that could be from any superhero movie or show. Plus, the fact that when they're flying around like that you know that literally nothing around them is real, where previously everything had utilized lots of practical effects. Also as a rule, just blasting lasers and fireballs which only ever do as much damage as the plot requires feels a lot less impactful than a fight with actual real-world weapons, where when a person is shot, punched, or stabbed, you can actually empathize with their pain more easily. Kind of a lot, I know, but just my disjointed two cents.

[@tei4724]

I mean, that's just it, right? It's just fine for the show but not mind blowing. And imo, it doesn't need to be. But I understand Schaffrillas not being okay with it.

[@lainiwakura1776]

It was okay. The fight was boring and the CGI wasn't worth it if all they did was shoot blasts of power at each other.

[@vissenekku]

It's mostly that every superhero movie ends that way. Every one of them. And there are so many ways to make something unique and new, but instead we see the same thing over and over and over again.

[@cloudedjasper7257]

I really wish just before Vision disappeared with the rest of Wanda’s world Wanda did the ‘I just feel you’ line

[@Bjbazooka]

Yooo that transition into the sponsorship was the funniest I’ve seen in a long time lol, keep it up my guy

[@prodbyluis7693]

Honestly the finale was exactly as I expected, I knew they weren’t gonna do anything too crazy🤷‍♀️ people just had wayy to high expectations for it

[@memybrain1458]

I agree that many people had multiverse shattering excpectations. However the show ended in the most basic way possible. Im fine and agree that they shouldn't put huge things in these mini series but when you have a show that is so unique at the start have its final episode play out like every other super hero content is disappointing and feels empty

[@RandomNirvanaSXE]

@@memybrain1458 so you're disappointed that we now have the scarlet witch in the marvel universe and what is going to come from her character? Wanda/scarlet witch is a pretty popular character in the comics. I'm sure many are happy she's getting her story

[@memybrain1458]

@@RandomNirvanaSXE nah I like the fact that she’s the scarlet witch officially but we already knew that before (just wasn’t cause of licensing) now she’s just more magical wich is cool! Don’t get me wrong Wanda is the best character in the series and she’s Handled great it’s just everything else about the ending that is generic and hollow

[@prodbyluis7693]

@@memybrain1458 I can definitely see why people think that, but i was satisfied

[@memybrain1458]

@@prodbyluis7693 I can understand why people like the ending. The way Wanda says goodbye to vision and the kids is amazingly written and is touching. The way she is forced to see the pain she caused is great! I just have a problem with all the other things that happened and how they were handled.

[@kkaenjixox]

“I dont like darcy” Me : “honey you got a big storm coming *clap*”

[@jacktalksmedia3660]

Darcy is fantastic and it really surprised me to hear he didn't like her

[@Dr._Heinz_Doofenshmirtz]

I found the character annoying

[@johnmccarthy4134]

He likes Jimmy Woo but hates Darcy This is fine.

[@franciscrozierera]

i won't stand for darcy slander, she's a sapphic icon

[@LeonardoHernandez-eg5dv]

You could stop at 5 or 6 stores, or just 1

[@randomdj9165]

Heres What I Would Change - Wanda ends up being the real villain in the final episode - Agatha isn’t a villain, and is instead a mentor to Wanda, trying to stop her in the final episode. She isn’t reverted back to Agnes - The S.W.O.R.D. Reveal Episode doesn’t happen until after Episode 6, making it Episode 6 and the Halloween Episode being Episode 5 instead - Episode 7 spends less time on Vision and Darcy, and more on Wanda, Monica and Agatha - The final battle isn’t some terrible CGI battle, as there is none, as it’s Monica and Agatha trying to stop Wanda from trapping Westview again, while keeping S.W.O.R.D. from attacking her - Tyler Hayward has less involvement and scenes, and Monica’s powers are saved for the future, probably her appearence in The Marvels - Doctor Strange appears in the final episode, which was supposed to happen, but didn’t

[@thehallowayboys]

That makes a lot of sense!

[@matthewsoucy9073]

That’s going on r/fixingmovies!

[@Niviso]

I don’t care about any other heroes, they simply hyped an smart mysterious ending so much just to end it with some weird average super hero movie ending kind of shit.

[@emboxavier4386]

Ong the show could of been so smart