WandaVision - Series Finale (My Thoughts)

[@chiefgarvey11]

Everyone: Evan Peters is Mephisto playing Quicksilver who was sent by Hayward to revive Utron and give birth to Reed Richards WandaVision writers: dude bohner lmao

[@firstlast9846]

They should’ve known they were misleading people with the casting and that fans would be disappointed.. did they really think fans would’ve just laughed along with a Boner Joke as a big reveal?

[@gabetimefilms]

@@firstlast9846 yes.

[@PoopaChallupa]

It's ironic that all those quicksilver theories that people were hot about did end up giving them a bohner.

[@mikangv08]

Lol

[@KabbalahSherry]

Honestly... it was an insult 🙄😒 smh

[@tobluetoblack]

That costume she had on was fucking fire.

[@Panimal98]

Right?? Maybe there's hope for an accurate Wolverine costume.

[@onewiththedark6237]

@@Panimal98 we probably will. Just look whos running this studio

[@Smokey1419]

100% agree, she looked awesome. I was turned on and terrified simultaneously.

[@someone-js6pg]

the Halloween costume was also pretty lit

[@logancoasterroasterlockwoo163]

They nailed the costume, she’s terrifying and sexy,

[@darragh4488]

Elisabeth Olsen didn't actually say there was a Luke Skywalker cameo, that's the wording a journalist chose. Edit: thanks for the likes, I personally loved the whole show and I thought that the ending did a pretty good job at wrapping things up. I think fans are too easy to trick nowadays. Comic book posted 6 different articles of people who will appear in far from home, However they didn't support their claims with proof. Sometimes being sceptical is better in the long run.

[@PrimeTime__]

Exactly

[@jking4973]

It’s extremely frustrating the so many people don’t understand this

[@brandonjuno]

Let them whine.

[@RbkARI]

Exactly. And she couldn't just say "Nah, it's just Evan Peters lmao" because you know...it's pretty rude.

[@vodkabooty]

People don’t fuckin read smh

[@abnormallynormal8823]

His claim of a “Luke Skywalker level cameo” was white Vision. The actor Paul Bettany always wanted to work with was Paul Bettany

[@joeybagofdoughnuts1732]

That's not even the right interview, luke skywalker cameo is from a Olsen interview that got the hatchet job. "Now a days people will believe anything"

[@greatscott636]

@@joeybagofdoughnuts1732 everything disney does now is woke garbage. The Luke Skywalker moment was very hopeful. They gonna ride that skywalker hope for money until 2029

[@LavenousForever]

People will forgive Wanda for enslaving an entire town before they forgive someone for a tweet they made 10 years ago 🤣

[@mrlx1064]

THANK. YOU.

[@Anthonycheesman33]

Because it's a show lol

[@pierrewillful]

People only get mad when u label their actions ... so if you say “enslaved a town” vs brought back her dead android boyfriend and had some kids” .. well, yes folks get emotionally invested

[@BritneyLaZonga]

She peaced out before she could face consequences/be held accountable. In my book she is NOT redeemed.

[@JC-rm6pm]

How about a comedy sketch from the 80s :DD

[@Nitrocurse]

*Wanda:* _Casts runes on the walls_ *Jimmy Woo:* _Walks into the hex_ *Also Jimmy:* _Can no longer do card tricks_

[@derekhofstetler3998]

Perfect tease for the REAL Sorcerer Supreme.

[@cjmk5923]

Jimmy Woo can always do card tricks... he is the most powerful card trick master in the multiverse.

[@whitewizard953]

It seems that those missed hits on Agatha was just Wanda casting the runes

[@cjmk5923]

@@whitewizard953 Pretty lucky someone with no knowledge of magic was able to memorize the shape of multiple magical runes after seeing them for only a few seconds isn't she.

[@realar]

Dude, he got himself out of cuffs and typed behind his back.

[@nathanieldiaz5254]

Your hair is going through the greatest character arc.

[@BabysitterSky]

Copy and paste comment.

[@nathanieldiaz5254]

@@BabysitterSky No, I literally came up with it myself. Stop saying something is copied just for attention. Unless someone else wrote something similar by coincidence.

[@urmilawright5900]

Yes ,YES YYYEEESSS!!!!!!!!! GIVE ME THAT HAIR!!!!!!

[@BabysitterSky]

@@nathanieldiaz5254 its literally in every Jeremy video. I usually ask what character develpment its having...its just getting longer. They never have a good answer. And neither do you.

[@nathanieldiaz5254]

@@BabysitterSky Well I don't watch every Jeremy video. And seriously dude it's just a joke about how nice his hair looks.

[@malvaroyou]

- They are going to have a hard time trying to defeat White Vision, uh? - Actually it's going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience

[@josephbradshaw6985]

So, you have a lol meme for me?

[@JohnnyStormsBoyfriend]

-oh really? -yea! They're just gonna talk about the ship of theseus and stuff vision will give his memories to white vision and white vision will be like "I am vision" and fly away. -wow

[@lucasmardon9072]

Then he snapped the bad guys neck, did a backflip and saved the day

[@masterdeity3400]

Oh, referencing other youtubers is tight.

[@catpiratepewe-ah3136]

“I understood that reference” 😂

[@SaiyanShoto]

Apparently the they never said “Luke Skywalker level cameo” that was an interviewer who put words in their mouths and journalists used that as a headline. But the big cameo was White Vision

[@alienator345]

Exactly! They asked Elizabeth Olsen if there's a casting choice they haven't revealed that she's excited for people to see and she said yes. That was it. And that was BEFORE Evan Peters showed up. So I'm pretty sure Evan Peters is who she was referring to. The writer of the article added the Luke Skywalker thing. So it's unfair for people to get mad at the show for not giving them something that the neither the show nor the actors promised.

[@neilstewart5123]

I thought it was more of a case they were having a little fun trolling the fans.

[@johnnypopstar]

@@neilstewart5123 Paul Bettany did that, when he said there was a cameo of some actor he'd always wanted to work with - which turned out to be himself, and just a joke. Any mention of "Luke-level cameo" came purely from that interview and the interviewer taking things out of context, as Jerrell said.

[@Foxarocious]

Problem is that they agreed with it when asked. There are ways you can sustain hype AND temper expectations IMO. They did not do that this go round lol

[@johnnypopstar]

@@Foxarocious they agreed with it when asked [citation needed]

[@nickgovindan5948]

I’m perfectly okay with WandaVision being a 9 episode “origin story” for the Scarlett Witch version of Wanda

[@snusemcgoose1001]

I always thought it was only going to be one season, these are just supposed to be longer stretched out mcu movies

[@georgehernandez2156]

They should have done it better. Have a couple episodes focused on Pietro and Wanda. And show how it effected her losing her twin. Losing a twin is far more painful than losing a significant other or just as much.

[@jstonerganjasaurus4238]

They could of shorten it to atleast 5 eps. Would of been better pacing imo

[@danielpeters2501]

@@georgehernandez2156 no I feel like it's an origin of SCARLET WITCH They'll probably do an origin of Wanda Maximoff...which will include the dynamics with her brother and probably how they got their powers

[@xero9114]

Agatha said “The Scarlet Witch doesn’t not need incantation,” it means she doesn’t need to cast spells, speak in Latin and stuff. Wanda can easily copy what Agatha is doing. Like how she teleported just by seeing Agatha teleporting. That explains how she casted the runes on the hex easily.

[@christianmh9549]

Also runes are often the source of the magic itself, meaning that to cast the magic you only need to know the runes and write them, carve them, etc; and she saw the runes in the basement.

[@thereallylargeknome7461]

That's a good point. My interpretation of the runes was that she learnt when she entered Agatha's mind

[@anthonyjohn583]

I took it that when she was throwing all that shit at Agatha that she was intentionally missing and thus casting the runes around the hex. Could be wrong tho

[@Blackspidy619]

The way I thought about it is that she just straight up copied the runes in the basement. Maybe used magic to remember what they looked like, or there's some amount of flexibility to what runes can look like.

[@ShoeBoyReview]

@@anthonyjohn583 No you’re right

[@RealTimePogo]

The line “for the children” was actually a plea for the children to be free from Wanda.

[@playgroundchooser]

😮 You're so totally right! Never thought of that.

[@Sasu123456789x1]

Omg thats so true!

[@gwp4eva]

you could be right but...we shouldn't have to go to a youtube comments section to have that realization. the series was purposely vague and threw a lot at the audience to generate buzz, knowing it wasn't going to explain most of it

[@stanford0711]

Dang the best theory I’ve seen on this

[@yosefsaqer7135]

Mind blown 🤯

[@shinigami1357]

Wanda and Agatha having an all out war The visions: wait now let’s think this one through

[@TheTonyEntertainment]

lol

[@mlgreen111]

Lol

[@Sleepyjoe30]

Difference between men and women lol

[@hectordoblado4987]

I really needed to have a confrontation like that in the mcu for once.

[@MrSimonsays2592]

I'm so happy they went that way, it was a nice juxtaposition, and totally on brand for Vision. Lol

[@TheGoldenAlchemist86]

So I learned that "luke Skywalker cameo" was something that was never said by any of the cast. A article made it up and we all fell for it

[@santos8468]

Really?

[@TheGoldenAlchemist86]

@@santos8468 yup. In the interview Elizabeth said that she was happy that someone was casted for something that wasn't leaked and the article used click bait by saying it was gonna be something wild

[@Fanboy-rq6tv]

Well, the interviewer asked elizabeth olsen if there was a luke skywalker size cameo and she gave her a generic response like “there’s some big stuff coming”. So they didn’t actually say it but it also wasn’t 100% made up.

[@phoenixfunny4517]

@@Fanboy-rq6tv it was set up so that they could use click bait

[@stanford0711]

Yup-this is what happens when one source editorializes and other news sources pick it up-seemingly legitimizing it🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Shome2049]

In Spider-Man 3 we will see Tobey Maguire's cameo and it will be later revealed he is just a pizza delivery boy from Queens, named 'Peter Spanker'.

[@greylithwolf]

I mean... I would laugh pretty hard. In fact that sounds like something Sam Raimi would write.

[@skeleton599]

I world laugh and be pissed off at the same time

[@ankitdas6620]

Cant wait for fan theorists to rip their hairs out and get disappointed over that one

[@jacobbrodeur2735]

This is exactly what I thought about after the WandaVision reveal. It’s simultaneously a very funny yet very disappointing outcome.

[@patrickbateman4095]

I hope your joking

[@oddlysatisfying1790]

Trauma or grief should never be an excuse for a crime; it should be a reason.

[@johnstriker480]

Amen!

[@magikforce4069]

It should be an explanation but the writers use it as an excuse.

[@danielpeters2501]

@@magikforce4069 I feel it could be an excuse in this context because she didn't do it on purpose Immediately she finds out she lets them go

[@BlazingOwnager]

I loved how they made her the villain of the story despite being the protagonist and didn't even just imply it. That scene at the end where the towns people are begging to let their children out of their rooms and some even "kill me please" it was like .. damn. They pulled no punches with the horror of what she inflicted.

[@Shome2049]

This show was great till episode 7 but then it lagged in pacing. And finale was over crowed and not satisfying.

[@ewanreilly2988]

I would have liked it even more if they didn't make Monica so overly understanding of what Wanda was doing

[@NIGHTWING-xi2ud]

Reminds me of Eren from aot

[@hoesayohlay]

@@ewanreilly2988 her mom died... if my mom just died, i would totally understand wanda

[@LockeWick]

@@ewanreilly2988 She understood because she understands grief, that is why we got her backstory of when she was snapped back and watch her have to learn that her mother died years ago.

[@mxmissy]

When Paul Bettany says he's working with an actor he's wanted to forever. He was fucking talking about himself.

[@EzraDair]

Yep that was funny

[@DivaViews]

He trolled us big time.

[@sigoy]

Hahaha unreal

[@sarcasm-83]

Finally in a movie with the famous Paul Bettany. He has finally made it big.

[@sarcasm-83]

@Budgie Cat Lucky man for sure!

[@stoned_666]

Me before watching WandaVision: *That Quicksilver is from the X-Men universe* Me after watching the WandaVision: *I'm not a clown, i'm the whole circus*

[@Savataric]

RALPH BOHNER 😂😂😂😂

[@RevRyukin7]

Naw, it's them who's the clowns for making the show.

[@jwec9867]

I know someone who just saw the episode that introduces Quicksilver and he's annoyed because it was spoiled for him. I can't imagine his reaction when he sees the finale.

[@MrHale]

If you thought it was X-Men Quicksilver, you indeed are a clown.

[@Savataric]

@@MrHale that is true lol I knew it was too early to see all of this

[@HuntSD]

The cameo was just Paul trolling saying the cameo was him acting with himself.

[@zkielKO]

Yeah but the fact that Elizabeth Olsen doubled down on that statement as well isn't trolling anymore, they're misleading us.

[@SovietMexican619]

@@zkielKO ohhh come on it's just a joke. It's disappointing yes but I laughed when I found that out from him and he does now regret making that joke.

[@OMGITSJAD]

It wasn't even that, it was some news site clickbaiting a headline by making a quote from an interview seem like way more than it really was and it getting out of control by everyone falling for it. Nobody actually said the phrase "there will be a Luke Skywalker level cameo", yet everyone is mad at them for not having one.

[@mollytovxx4181]

@@zkielKO She didn't double down on anything. Paul Bettany made that joke weeks after the interview that Elizabeth Olsen made that keeps getting twisted. She only said there would be a casting that hadn't been revealed yet- and she said that before Evan Peters made his appearance so she was probably talking about that. As usual it's just bad theories, misinformation, and people not checking sources.

[@erccool]

@@zkielKO Nahh the fan theory vides coming every week was probably the cause. But hey hopefully the speculations for Falcon and The Winter Soldier die down or at least be taken with a grain of salt instead of forcing your own head canon as the right way then being disappointed by it

[@josetheman239]

That thought experiment was truly the best part of the whole season. We got to see vision as he was in Age of Ultron. A thinker.

[@TVNDRA]

“You didn’t come here to watch me rant for 45 minutes” Nope, but I’ll sure as hell stay for it. You made a massively good point in explaining social media culture and how easy it is to get caught up in the “narrative” vs what the actual reality is on that subject. Wether it’s politics, social politics, political correctness, or the lack thereof; people would rather read something someone ELSE says, and take that as base value instead of doing their own research and developing their own opinions on the subject. That shits insane to me.

[@jcd7583]

What's even worse is when the people in charge of the narrative ban those who have a counter argument to the narrative.

[@cjc363636]

I like it when Jeremey goes down random 'thought roads.' We get the hip, funny and awesome review as normal, but also a bit more to think about.

[@makasete30]

Gets pitchfork. So, who do we cancel next Twitter overlords?

[@c.j.9072]

@@cjc363636 yeah he explained that perfectly and it's true it's all about perception

[@SlyMagma]

@@jcd7583 What's worse is that people can claim a narrative with false information and even when proven incorrect, some are so rooted into that narrative being true to justify their beliefs they will continue to relish is false misinformation.

[@MooreShots__]

We gunna ignore the clever wizard of Oz Easter egg? When Wanda throws the car at Agatha, only her boots was left under the car. A reference to wizard of Oz.

[@BiowareKaiserGirl]

Right? When I saw her feet I literally said "is the wicked witch dead?" XD

[@christophermanley3602]

I noticed that too

[@sarumanwise2785]

One of the films playing in the Coronet Cinema in the finale was also "Oz the Great and Terrible"!

[@syedmajidhassan4051]

Sameee that's the first easter egg that I have noticed in any MCU property ever

[@thegroove14]

I would love to see Marvel make more Captain America PSA videos where he lectures us about the dangers of overtly believing fan theories.

[@Rhamsody]

That amount of meta would make our heads explode.

[@fulcrum6760]

Imagine if it’s Sam?

[@reallyWyrd]

Lol. Yes! Someone *please* make this!

[@rsdillbot3646]

So. A fan theory you belived in didn't come true, you may be feeling a sense of dispointment, thats normal. But when it comes to fan theories, they are just that, theories and most likely not to be true no matter what evidence are there for them, don't let theories ruin your viewing enjoyment.

[@vash01251]

@@rsdillbot3646 i think the fans and also comics relates sites go really crazy with the theories which leada to inevitable disappointment. I hate seeing all these theories about character x y or z being in the show because theyre letting themselvea get too carried away

[@kodaloid]

The whole Wanda being a villain thing I think is like giving her a Hulk level tragedy. So much more interesting than "if you walk out that door, you are an avenger", we now get to see how this type of character can or can't be redeemable

[@Relugus]

She will defeat Chthon, thus defying the prophecy. We know Strange is useless against Chthon by his failure to show up. Her arc is about Chthon and his prophecy now.

[@IronMan-jj2fd]

Why does this guy look like Scott Adkins + John wick 🤣

[@Mr_Cinematic]

You should also check out my Wandavision REVIEW BRAH

[@SoullessAIMusic]

its interesting but they stumbled on a few places, particularly on just letting her go after all the damage she caused. I mean they blamed the boss guy but it was really wanda who was at fault for at least 98 percent of everything.

[@phantomzxro1]

@@SoullessAIMusic well technically only Monica let her go. Wanda fled the scene when she heard the police or sirens. Monica understood the grief and let her go. Also realistically speaking who there could actually stop her.

[@ghalleonorez]

Paul Bettany explained that the big cameo was him as white vision, it was a joke that went too far

[@firesnakex8]

different joke. That joke stemmed off of paul saying that he got to work with an amazing actor he always wanted to work with which is pretty hilarious.

[@FalCorianHojasanta]

The "Luke Skywalker" cameo on the final episode was never said. Elizabeth Olsen said there was a cameo that would blow people's mind... and, taking in count when she said it, she was probably talking about Evan Peters. The interviewer framed it as a Luke Skywalker lvl, and the end of the series. It was people taking things out of context, but never a real thing that someone actually said.

[@nickgaschler5828]

i wonder if he dropped it and watched all the fam theories go and he just felt like so bad

[@otrenigmaandy7443]

Yea Wanda casting the runes on the “hex” walls was dope, all the shots she missed when they were witch fly fighting were all intentional misses cause she didn’t have to know exactly how to cast spells (cause it’s all just come from her mind, being able to just think and create and magic) so just looking at all the rune spell pictures in Agatha’s basement so she just wanted those and made em. I loved this episode!! And then she was astral projecting herself and Dr Strange-ing the Darkhold... 🤯

[@LeoP2008]

I was SO mind blowing when I realized it. She was "missing" Agatha like it appeared but was casting Runes, offering her power to Agatha to stall for time. You even see some obvious "misses" during the fight where she purposefully tosses her magic at the Hex. AND at the start of the fight, on Wanda's first miss, Agatha looks at Wanda with confusion so even she was suspicious of what Wanda was up to. Agatha consistently belittled Wanda so it's also likely she underestimated her during this fight, as well.

[@poppychalupa9390]

And that was the only good Episode in the whole show. Amazing

[@JaYoeNation]

wow... that ending synopsis was deeep

[@MemeRanks]

Best Jeremy Jahns video imo. The second half of this review was phenomenal

[@Kimmy-May]

Definitely stayed for it.

[@jonathanm6823]

Cuz it’s true

[@Philosophical24]

It’s very true as well. I made the exact same argument Jeremy did in a Facebook group for the show and... dude... the amount of rabid stans who attacked me because of my opinion was... not surprising tbh MCU fans can be very toxic, it’s in every fan base, but these fans just eat up what they see and are told and if questioned immediately attack your opinion. I love discussing shows but this show made me not want to discuss online

[@seyramkartey3726]

I totally agree.

[@MonsterTeegs]

I love that Scarlet Witch and The Vision both beat the bad guys with intelligence once they realized force wasn't working.

[@chriswyatt9869]

More so lazy writing. Trying to appeal to their better nature/giving them the full picture so they're not your enemy anymore .... seen it before. Using their own trick against them.... done. Was such generic solutions that's been done countless times before, for a show that started off as quite mysterious and unique for the MCU i would have thought they would have concluded it with a bit more thought and intricacy. Was kinda disappointed with this finale.

[@TheALJMusic]

@@chriswyatt9869 I disagree. This finale was great but we all have opinions haha

[@chriswyatt9869]

@@TheALJMusic eh too many wasted potential for storylines. With what came before it could have went somewhere really interesting but ended up being a predictable generic cgi fight. Director dick was a terrible villain, didn't addeess where dlc skin vision went, monica was kinda wasted and didn't really do anything apart from stand around and block some bullets. No closure at all for darcy. And most importantly they threw away Evan Peter's as just some random neighbour called bohner instead of something interesting like nightmare, mephisto, multiverse quicksilver or something else. Sure they could resolve that in future shows and movies but they could have at least teased it more instead of just cutting it at a dead end. Only thing i did actually like about the finale was Wanda's costume and finally an attempt at making her more powerful in the future. Well yep we do have different opinions, i was just expecting more considering i loved the first half

[@ZealStarMedia]

They purposefully pit them against people they couldn’t defeat with brute force, Wanda fought a skilled witch who absorbs magic, and Vision fought a perfect copy of himself (or rather he’s the perfect copy). It’s not lazy writing (like some say) it’s really smart to set these things up before hand (Wanda with the runes, and Vision questioning his identity).

[@vexienroe]

@@chriswyatt9869 "I feel like this isnt the end of Evan Peters in the MCU, the way he chuckled at Boehner makes it feel like he was probably to witness protection service person Woo was looking for." From "jordanman" else, but also, the whole show was not a barn burner, it had very little reinvention of the wheel, and the reason those "things i've seen before" happen is because they actually work. I mean how many times did an army invade russia in winter? Just because it happened before doesnt mean people pay attention and learn. So yeah, appealing to the vision inside of dlc vision is what you would do if it was your brother trying to kill you. You saying you would rip his head off and drink its blood like a cup? Agatha was clearly more prepared and wanda could not beat her with traditional means, sure the agatha set up was an obvious foreshadow but if you want to include a witch that steals powers from witches what are you going to do? Have wanda appeal to the vision inside and have vision beat agatha to death? until she realizes he is going to attack her and just teleports away? The reason it was lack luster is because the entire series was lack luster, it was retreads but with those characters in those stories. So it was fine. But it was never going to be blowing your mind. Or the series would of been better before the finale.

[@IanHollis]

Wanda vs. Agatha: * Hair pulling contest. * Vision vs. Vision: "Should we perhaps settle this over a cup of tea?"

[@atharvadeshpande4749]

I mean Paul Bettany and Paul Bettany are British so I can definitely See this happening 😂😂

[@gingeroverseer9302]

visions: *literal intelectuals* let us debate literature to settle our differences

[@theguywithsomething8634]

@@gingeroverseer9302 White Vision: Personally, I think 50 shades of Grey gets more hate than it deserves Dream Vision: Peace was never an option

[@weareight6567]

Perfect

[@MilkyEggs]

Agatha was never going to stop coming after Wanda nor sit and "settle" things. Wanda HAD to fight. cataract on the other had was an brainwashed vision following an order and when that order didn't make sense he had to acquire new details which changed that. there is nothing Wanda could've said to make Agatha stop trying to hurt her so not so much a "hair-pulling contest" but more self defense.

[@matthewcandela9448]

Dude, THANK YOU for saying what you had to say. The discussion you had in the end was more meaningful and important than any WandaVision episode analysis anyone could have

[@skele_wave]

The hex didn’t enslave the people’s minds, she did that separately- that’s why they could be freed but still trapped inside. Wanda enslaved Agatha independently of all the town’s people

[@RedDevilStudio]

That sounds way way worse.

[@YuriAmericanHero]

@@RedDevilStudio That's probably the point.

[@jena5634]

Exactly. And even if she hadn't been aware at the time, and the enslave element had been tied in with the hex without her conscious understanding of what she was doing - she cast that spell on Agatha intentionally. I'm assuming she can do whatever she wants with that now she's more aware of her power.

[@aweffs]

Agatha said she was drawn to the hex due to all the powerful magic - she came after the hex.

[@MrTevens]

@@RedDevilStudio That's why Agatha said Wanda was cruel. Though I mean to be fair, Agatha kind of deserved it.

[@jordanjman0120]

I feel like this isnt the end of Evan Peters in the MCU, the way he chuckled at Bohner makes it feel like he was probably the witness protection service person Wu was looking for. Edit: This blew up and I noticed my misspelled names and grammar issues and i had to fix before more people saw lol

[@AustinH7]

THIS COMMENT NEEDS TO BLOW THE FUCK UP, THIS IS A GOOD ASS THEORY!!!!!

[@LuisaAlejandra]

holy shit yes

[@zechrojas2202]

Fingers crossed 🤞

[@CapeEniEer]

but also how does that make Evan Peter's character Quicksilver? for him to be that he had to have gotten pulled into this universe through magic, since the original one died.

[@ZealStarMedia]

That’s very likely, but we don’t know the implications of that.

[@JJ-gh2is]

Your mini rant about our willingness to forgive fictional characters but not real individuals was just as interesting as your overall review. Great insight - we wouldn’t judge a show’s character after one episode, so why do we judge people after seeing so little of them in real life?

[@erod4643]

Why I love this guys reviews, he surprises from time to time.

[@ArchGeek]

This little rant, is the exact same sentiment and warning that Gina Carano made, and she got cancelled.

[@SethG3600]

Because people suck

[@funguy873]

It is a great insight. Sadly, the reason is we're too busy living our own lives to know more than bite sized information about other people and we're not going to dig that deep unless we really have to

[@182atenasb]

@@ArchGeek she didn’t make a mistake and apologize. She said idiotic things and some awful bs. She didn’t try to see what others were saying or complaining about. She did what he’s talking about, judging others on a very limited way and creating a narrative about ppl she doesn’t know. I personally don’t mind if she’s cancel or not but I’m glad she lost her job because she’s an awful actress. She can do stunts and be physical but god forbid she has dialogue.

[@questionmark5463]

Dude.... That was brilliant! I felt the same when watching it and you just NAILED it. I was thinking... If I tried to explain it this way people would call me crazy. And here you go literally telling it to the entire world. I always watch your reviews... But this time man.. You really knocked it out of the park. Respect.

[@StealthCN]

I hope Wanda gets the Loki moment in OG Avengers. Thor: "He is my brother." Widow: "He killed 80 people in 2 days." Thor: "He is adopted. " Avengers: "She is one of us." "She mind controlled an entire town to play make-believe." Avengers: "She is a junior member."

[@spencerb705]

Avengers: She’s part time

[@wesdog784]

Lol it wouldn't be the first time a villain became a protagonist. Just look at Dragon Ball Z. And I'm pretty sure a lot of Avengers in the comics were villains at one point.

[@mirrorzone5224]

Nah fam. The enslaving an entire town thing was a spur of the moment outburst that she didn't know she was cappable of. The real bad shit was when she joined up with Nazis and the time she unleashed a nuclear monster on Johannesburg.

[@adaptablemr.nerdygamer5788]

she's an intern

[@face1339]

@@mirrorzone5224 I mean...it was spur of the moment at the beginning but she kept it going for at least a week.

[@BangBangspideyproduc]

The “Agatha All Along” thing wasn’t technically bullshit, it was just revealing that it was Agatha playing the role of Agnes and causing mischief around the town, not that she created the hex and was behind the entire thing.

[@thelastcrow5660]

It was a good cliche

[@aarongutierrez7705]

Ye it’s even in the lyrics “who’s been messing up everything? It’s been Agatha all along”

[@starlord7027]

Ikr “who’s been pulling every evil string” implies that she was just, you know, pulling evil strings

[@theyoutubeanalyst3731]

Yes, the song doesnt imply it's been her all along

[@Relugus]

@@starlord7027 Chthon is the one pulling the strings. Agatha seems to be Chthon's bitch.

[@Syrilian]

"The cameo" was Bettany trolling. He was referring to himself as the white vision.

[@c.j.9072]

I gotta admit there chemistry was off the charts.

[@CB0915]

Well it was fuckin dumb that he trolled

[@samanosuke4851]

@@CB0915 no. It was fucking hilarious

[@CB0915]

@@samanosuke4851 no it was dumb

[@al4red_]

@@CB0915 stay pressed lol it was funny

[@j.francisward1897]

I loved how Spectrum says something like "they'll never know what you sacrificed for them" and all I can think is... She enslaved a town against their will AND THEY WERE CONSCIOUS THE WHOLE TIME.

[@WeAreTheDraiken]

What she means is that she didn't mean to enslave them . But gave up her family once she realised she was. The "scarlet witch" is a nexus of chaos magic , so no matter what wanda will always have a problem controlling her powers and such if she is around people she will cause suffering. But then as the person "wanda maximoff" she has to go against what she is and what she desires most so people won't suffer . She did not purposely cause the suffering , it was her power reacting to her emotions , so the only thing wanda is guilty of is being alive and feeling pain , because she was always going to what she is , which is a nexus for chaos magic , just like she is in the comics. This kinda thing is what led into the avenger planning on killing her just before house of m started , it wasn't out of hate or malice , just the fact that stuff like this happens as long as she lives even though its not her fault.

[@seanmcloughlin5983]

@@WeAreTheDraiken I call bull, throughout the show from the time The woman who was Doddy briefly broke through in episode 2 to Wanda admitting she controls them when arguing with Vidion, she knew dang well what she was doing, she just refused to admit she was torturing them until they were literally screaming at her how much they were in pain.

[@WeAreTheDraiken]

@@seanmcloughlin5983 Just because the women broke through doesn't mean Wanda knew what she was doing in an active conscious way , if she had been in a right state of mind non of what had happened would have happened. What your implying is that Wanda actively released her powers to control the whole town , when that's not what happened , she was in grief then her powers busted out , even the fact that her powers have never been on this level is evident of that , I highly doubt with all the emotional turmoil she would have had the ability to even turn off what she was doing , its only after Agnes made her come to terms with her feelings is she finally able to turn off the Hex. Further I want to point out that the whole show is based upon the comic story-line where Wanda has a mental breakdown and losses control just like in the show , in the comics it was the stress of losing her children , and Kevin Feige said that before they made the show they consulted with professionals on the kind of behavior and reactions people have to grief , even the fact she was unsure of piertros actual face is a testament to that. in the end the real truth is , she is a vessal for Chaos Magic with her mental instability and the fact she's practically lost everyone , Father ,Mother , Brother , then finally Vision , with added fact she can create reality basically out of nothing (what she made was real , such as Hex Vison was actually made from vibranium) , the best thing to happen is for her to stay in the wilderness away from anyone.

[@Christian_Ada1]

@@seanmcloughlin5983 oh stop your whining. When Batman continues to put the villains behind bars and they escape again to kill more people and all he does is capture them again to put them behind bars just for them to escape again to kill more people whose fault is that Batman's right? But I bet you don't fault him for it The Avengers splitting the timeline was bad. Are they Villains now? Stop being a silly goose

[@Christian_Ada1]

@@WeAreTheDraiken Well said

[@GuardeGame]

Don’t want to be the “well actually” guy but in the transcript of the actual interview Olsen didn’t claim the the show had a “Luke Skywalker level cameo” if you trace it back to the original article you can see that the claim was taken out context purposefully from the interviewers and fans.

[@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective]

Yup

[@lexis4490]

Yeah. I really think she was referencing Fietro.

[@Aaron_Kuroiwa]

Great point. The disappointment I had was more with pace of the DLC vision, Sword as a whole, and I felt like Agatha could have been a little more grey. The notion that Mephisto, Reed Richards, or Dr. Strange were going to show up just does not hold water with the previous 8 episodes.

[@dingle2987]

Reminds me when everyone shat on the Brute Force game for Xbox because some media decided to take Bungie helping the studio out with UI and controller aiming, and turned it into “This game is the next Halo.” The marketing department running with it behind the developers back didn’t help either.

[@khushanghirpara5455]

Me: Wanda vision review! Jeremy: what the fuck is reality and why is social media controlling everything.

[@AryaMagi]

Exactly! 😭😂😂

[@leeswift7883]

I liked it all

[@makasete30]

And that’s why we love his reviews.

[@ObviouslyASMR]

Really liked your insight on the connection of narratives and social media, totally agree You're my favourite reviewer specifically because you bring up this random stuff that interests you 😂

[@Watch.Hightower]

I bet you wispered that comment. It's was Obviously ASMR.

[@ObviouslyASMR]

@@Watch.Hightower it was Obviously ASMR all along 😈

[@Mr_Cinematic]

You should also check out my Wandavision REVIEW BRAH

[@MrThmT]

Couldn agree more!

[@mechasentai]

I would argue it's not random. That is why exactly what the show/story is about. It's about the manipulation of perception.

[@badalicemusic]

This series was an excellent exploration of grief and how, when you’re going through that, any shitty actions you do as a consequence to relieve your own pain feel absolutely justified even if those actions are causing others pain. In your/Wanda’s head that pain, or agony, can’t possibly compare to the pain of your own loss and grief...and therefore it’s justifiable. The theme of continued loss across Wanda’s life clearly left a legacy of pain that was waiting to explode. This series showed us that and more. Thought provoking and excellent stuff!

[@beezig]

Love how the MCU create the costumes, little hints of the classic outfits but they have their own style in there as well. Also the Scarlet Witch Tiara, that Halloween episode was a great foreshadow for Wanda to realise she was the Scarlet Witch all along.

[@aetriandimitri190]

I like how Wanda designed her halloween costume because she saw the scarlet witch outfit in the soulstone vision and was like "fk it I'm using that"

[@danielz-v4083]

The Homecoming spider-man suit is one of the best designs in all of Super hero movies imo. Idk, it’s just such a perfect blend between comics and real life. The Amazing Spider-man man 2 one is obviously the most comic accurate but I feel like Homecoming’s is better for the realism and tech elements

[@heythere6983]

Easy way to keep the budget cheap

[@danielz-v4083]

@@heythere6983 100% sure it’s got nothing to do with budget 😂 it’s Disney/ Marvel man, they can bank the shit they want. But Kevin Fiege has proven time after time that he has a gameplan for most things and that he values progression. Every main costume in the MCU until now has felt earned

[@eduard476]

The "Luke Skywalker level cameo" was just a bullshit title of a fake news article. Olsen never said anything about a cameo.

[@pedronobrega7693]

@Budgie Cat No, she didn't. Do the research. Her never said anything about Luke Skywalker or made that comparison. Just a bunch of media outlets completely took her words out of context, put that Luke Skywalker mention on the title and ran with it and eventually everyone thought she actually said that. But she didn't. She only said she was excited about a surprise casting. That's it.

[@AlfredEiji]

It was Paul Bettany who made that claim, and he admitted in a later interview that he meant it as a good natured joke but grew to regret what it spiraled into.

[@sarcasm-83]

Lol I'll never stop being amused at "google it, watch a video, look at social medias" being referred to "doing research".

[@msampson2286]

yeah that was the interviewer that mentioned luke skywalker

[@scrooge1913]

I really thought Dr. Strange was going to show up, especially after they directly referenced "The Sorcerer Supreme". Then he didn't and that disappointed me.

[@erccool]

If you think about it, him showing up last minute to save everything or some shit will undermine Wanda in her own show. If he shows up as an after credits cameo would kinda work, but will still undermine Wanda becoming the Scarlet witch and studying the Darkhold

[@thelaughingrouge]

We know that this movie and the doctor strange movie link up so I guess we just get a name drop for now.

[@yaswante4105]

@@erccool I was more hoping that he wld show up in that last post credit scene where Wanda's doing her thing in the cabin and then she hears a knock at the door and the camera pans so that we can only see the back of Strange's head and he doesn't even have to say anything. it j fades to black even that small of a cameo wldve been dope ash

[@andrewenderle4281]

Strange’s theme slowly plays as Wanda reads through the Darkhold in the after credit scene

[@jaysunleblanc3680]

That's only your fault to blame for being dissapointed

[@1mezion]

The moment Agatha told her about the runes I realized she had already set herself up for her own destruction also Wanda didn't have to remember any spell for the runes all she had to do was remember what they looked like and recreate them

[@HolidLove]

“They” never said there was a “Luke Skywalker-level” cameo. Fans just isolated parts of that interview and took it out of context, adding their own.

[@caitlinkr]

No one cares to investigate context apparently

[@justincoleman2817]

It was actually the interviewer who used a clickbait title for his article and then the fans just read the headline without reading the article. Plus Paul Bettany kept teasing a cameo which made fans believe that's what Elizabeth Olsen was talking about

[@HolidLove]

@@caitlinkr Context schmontext. 😂

[@HolidLove]

@@justincoleman2817 The original headline was “Will WandaVision Have Its Own 'Luke Skywalker' Moment?” That is NOT true clickbait. Anyone who took the time to read the TV Line (original) story would know she (Olsen) never said it. Others took that story and ran with it, quickly blowing it out of proportion. Bettany’s comments were obviously in jest, in hindsight, but he never said it would be a huge name, important character, or anything like that.

[@nm2358]

The actual interview was hilarious.

[@EEVictory13]

The white vision has his memories back but he doesn’t necessarily have emotions back. He’s not the true vision anymore either. But Wanda could bring him back all the way possibly.

[@jkrenee]

His memories are what gave him his emotions. The only difference now is he's missing the mind stone. Wanda could give him the piece of it in her that she used to create fake Vision.

[@larrysmithjr7492]

Getting those memories isn't the same as living those experiences first hand over the course a couple years.

[@ElanaVital83]

@@larrysmithjr7492 It seemed to work for fake vision

[@donemu9096]

@@jkrenee His memories aren't what gave him his emotions. The mind stone literally took him from being just a random AI to a truly sentient being. Jarvis didn't have actual emotions until that point.

[@donemu9096]

@@ElanaVital83 Except the fake vision didn't have any memories prior to being in Westview but he had emotions. Maybe because he was created with Mind Stone energy.

[@TheCliqueAMIL]

Hated what they did with Evan peters Ralph character but in my mind he is in witness protection and that’s just a name they gave him.

[@Jptm26]

Plot twist: he's in witness protection because he's Mephisto

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

Ralph boner is his sitcom name just like agatha's agnes and monica's geraldine. It does not mean he is quicksilver tho

[@jish55]

I'll admit that's my hope that he was under Wanda's spell up until she removed it and Quicksilver fully awakened (since how the hell could Agatha give him super speed?)

[@Savataric]

I mean if u think of it it’s a little bit to early still for X men to come over

[@erccool]

He's probably a different character but NOT Fox Quicksilver. MCU needs to distance itself from the Fox Franchise as much as possible, with the exception of Deadpool.

[@laxi8305]

What you said about us being able to forgive fictional characters but not each other was actually very deep and made me think

[@fernandomoreno7677]

The Skywalker level cameo was Paul Bettany trolling us bc he said he was going to act w someone he wanted to act with his entire life and who was a top tier actor...Himself.

[@reviewer49642]

Keanu Reeves giving out his thoughts on the WandaVision finale is awesome

[@Savataric]

He did and what did he said :)

[@Jake-hl6ql]

@@Savataric they meant jeremy since he looks like john wick haha

[@Savataric]

@@Jake-hl6ql oh lol

[@ImTheShrey]

@@Savataric just missing a dog though

[@jesseburgener442]

My theory is that Wanda learned how to do the runes when she went into Agatha's head while doing the "Age of Ultron" magic on her. That scene came across as something that Wanda did to try to defeat her, but what if it was just a distraction so she could pick Agatha's brain for the rune spells?

[@dylanj739]

When Agatha said “Power isn’t your problem, it’s knowledge”. I think when Agatha said this Wanda got reminded of the runes.

[@adonirammccarthy3994]

You nailed it.

[@edreezyforreezy]

You guys are making excuses the TV show sucked. Seemed like a netflix show tbh. Reaping off everything to the end. I hope Falcon and Winter Soldier is better than that. IMO

[@dylanj739]

@@edreezyforreezy the only thing that was bad about WandaVision was Quicksilver being Ralph Bohner and Agatha’s fate

[@edreezyforreezy]

@@dylanj739 Plus the working vision theory, why Wanda was moving through Tv sitcoms, why Agatha knew about West View and Wanda. Nuh, the show sucked. MCU can make a better Tv show about Wanda becoming Scarlet Witch than that garbage. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Zinferbuddy]

Your commentary at the end about the narrative influence on our perception of heroes and villains was fantastic

[@AznJsn82091]

Did anyone else get a The Incredibles vibe when the family was together in the same frame?

[@tortino56]

The Luke Skywalker like cameo was a fabricated headline, an interviewer asked Elizebeth Olsen if there were any characters that hadn’t been leaked yet, and Elizebeth basically just said yes there is a cool character that wasn’t leaked, and everyone spun that into a “Luke Skywalker like reveal”

[@Matt-bg5wg]

DLC VISION doesn't count, its just a reskinned VISION.

[@thelefthandofcreation1617]

It's also Paul Bettany teasing that he finally got to work with an actor who he'd always wanted to act with, and whose work he greatly admired. This also contributed greatly to the "WHAT ACTOR HAS PAUL BETTANY DREAMED OF WORKING WITH?!?!". Obviously he was trolling while being technically accurate lol

[@TheTattorack]

The whole cameo thing was literally them just trolling everyone. Mr Sunday Movies called it; they meant DLC Vision. XD As for Vision. I love how that fight got resolved. Vision is powerful. Vision can totally do your typical super slug fest, but he's also a philosopher. He's one of the few heroes of Marvel that goes out of their way to understand the motivations of their enemies. So having the Visions solve the fight through philosophy was just perfect. Can I just say how perfect Wanda looks like as the Scarlet Witch? Very scary. Sure, she's out there and isolated, but she's busy learning dark magic! After that ending I'm absolutely expecting her to return next time as the villain. Or at least a villain, driven to using her chaos magic in dark ways to get her children back. That's my hypotheses on how the ending leads into the next Dr Strange movie.

[@StarFyreXXX]

Wrong. Read my post above . The luke cameo thing was mentioned by a site. Olsen never said that.

[@davidchidester5463]

Agatha told her she's more powerful than the Supreme sorcerer or whatever. So it's totally plausible her and Strange have a showdown in the future.

[@sameerkhaleel2027]

I felt they backed out the quicksilver thing in the last moment cause I am sure Agnes is not that powerful to grant people mutant level abilities

[@sameerkhaleel2027]

@@davidchidester5463 well Dr.Strange is not just any sorcerer supreme, he is like the best there has ever been.. so can't say for sure

[@TheTattorack]

@@sameerkhaleel2027 All she did was make him move around real fast and give him Pietro VFX. We saw her physically transmute a small animal. I'd say that's far more challenging to do than making something move fast.

[@masterarash7]

Before this show I never really cared for vision and didn't really understand how Scarlet Witch woulda felt after the death of him. But after finishing this show it really hit me deep. I felt so sorry for Wanda and all that she's been through. But now I really wanna see where she goes from here. Awesome show!

[@im2cxe4u]

The song says "who's that messing up everything?" Messing up Wanda's perfect hex world. NOT creating it.

[@rockabye274]

This was one of Jeremy's better videos, but I disagree with him that Agatha was a "who gives a shit?" villain. We will probably see more of Agatha in future MCU projects and she is certainly an important character in the comic books. Introducing Agatha here (and establishing her back story) gives Marvel more flexibility with future MCU storylines.

[@aarongutierrez7705]

@@rockabye274 doesn’t matter if it will pay off later, right here, right now, it was an underdeveloped villian.

[@avxx0035]

@@aarongutierrez7705 So was Joker in Dark Knight, we knew nothing about him? Yet he's an awesome villain

[@ozymandias8346]

@@avxx0035 but that was the joker. He is suppose to have no backstory. That was part of his character

[@Bolvar4dragon]

@@avxx0035 He was interesting because they used that to make him mysterious (among other things, like being an extremely potent foil to the hero). I wouldn't necessarily call that underdeveloped. There was a psychology there that made him so well regarded. Agatha, while having a few interesting notes (mostly with how she explored Wanda's psychology and tried to exploit it), ended up being fairly one-note. Her motivation was simply "gimme ur power" and for no real reason, and at least for me it felt like it was built up to be a lot more than that.

[@JamesCPotter13]

Agatha is stuck as “Agnes” in Westview, not the Hex. And Wanda learned the runes because Agatha SHOWED her the runes when she was stuck in the basement.

[@phantomzxro1]

And her magic does not require incantations, so her magic works heavily on thought. The original hex town is a number of magic spells she technically did not know how to do.

[@soumik85]

Since incantation is not required, she learned what runes were and willed them into existence, like the wordless spells in Harry Potter Universe

[@monkey3782]

When you think about it Monica contributed next to nothing to the story overall. All that build up and back story, revealing she had super powers etc and her only contribution in the finale was stopping a couple of bullets that Wandas son would have caught anyway, she literally was put in this show just for the nick fury tease in the mid credit scene

[@justinharris2320]

In my opinion, I don't think Monica was there for the storyline as much as she was there for the audience. kind of an outsider. She was blipped away, and came back to a crazy situation. Not to mention, much like the audience, she was learning about the phenomena as she went along. Kind of like the viewers. She also served as an example of what the hex Cannon can't do to gifted and non gifted beings. But like you said, I think some of her purpose was also to tie in other movies and shows in the Marvel universe. I'm sure Falcon and Winter soldier will do the same thing. Probably Loki as well.

[@jordansummers8857]

Welcome to everything in the show. Fucking NOTHING. she's scarlet witch now, and found that out from agatha... then PROCEEDS TO TELL AGATHA," I don't need you to tell me who I am" Are u fuckung kidding me.... yes you did she just. She just told you and you had no idea about runes or chaos magic or scarlet witch. But haha now u don't need her to tell you your NAME SHE JUST FUCKUNG TOLD YOU. I HATE THIS SHOW

[@jordansummers8857]

@@bradleyc6564 the whole show made me as mad as I am. Not this segment, not this video, or even youtube. This show is showing us that Disney can drag people along with holes and no one cares enough to give a fuck. Im sad im disappointed I wanted a story not more questions. Thats exactly what this whole season was. Pathetic. And on reddit everyone was saying, shit well maybe next week will be paid off. And so on until next week, and next week, now we are here. Finale. And now we fuckin what, wait for them to do it again? This is the new age of entertainment. Fuck stories and fulfilling progressions. Just keep em guessing and giving us money. Fucking unreal. Too scared or lazy to do anything upfront or even sit on a death. This in all was what, a story about grief? Why is she trying to get her kids back in the end credits then? Vision is alive now too. No growth except a name that was told to her, then proceeds to tell the woman to told her HER OWN NAME, nah fuck you I don't need you. Okay! And HAHAHA BONER QUICKSILVER SO FUCKING FUNNY RIGHT. Spit on me more marvel. Just lemme open my mouth next time.

[@randyatimi4511]

If DC did such the internet by now will be exploding.... Her plot makes zero sense.... All the teasing about her power was just to stop bullets from hitting kids that are more powerful than she could ever be.... lol. Boring show...

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

Well, she's probably going to learn more about her powers in _Captain Marvel 2_

[@justinbellotti7838]

Hahaha, Paul Betteny trolled everyone. The huge cameo by a person he always wanted to work with was himself. 😂 They seriously messed with us during this series.

[@SneaksBL]

They technically didn’t say there was a “Luke skywalker” cameo. That news article put that in the title but they none of the starts never said that

[@Joyiscools]

Dude there's so much of that lately, youtubers and newsites running with misinterpreted headlines. Like not too long ago everyone and their mamas were saying that there'd be THREE batmen when in reality everyone misconstrued the actula quotes. It was maddening

[@Mallymile]

So maybe they were talking about Evan Peters the whole time. Because he was a huge cameo at the time

[@trueLuminus]

Doesn't matter. Everyone involved with the show could've set the record straight. Instead, they let the misinterpreted story get out of hand. A simple Tweet could've solved this. That makes them guilty.

[@darkfire2942]

It’s funny that people are now just saying this and starting to catch on. Where were you people beforehand?!

[@skyblaze55555]

yeah that was just click bait that people bought into

[@froststripe2384]

She was reading the Darkhold. The Darkhold. The book that was last seen with FREAKING GHOST RIDER. Soooo. Oop

[@Panimal98]

Actually, it was also seen with Morgan Le Fay in Runaways.

[@shimmeringsolstice258]

@@Panimal98 is that canon anymore?

[@maunglay8833]

@@shimmeringsolstice258 never was. There’s only one Darkhold and that’s the one Wanda was reading in her Astral form.

[@1197victor]

@@maunglay8833 it was canon to a certain point but I don't know what are they going to do with those series storylines

[@Panimal98]

@@shimmeringsolstice258 Until they say otherwise, it is canon. Kevin Feige is even entertaining the idea of Agents of SHIELD characters returning to the films.

[@tokilladaemon]

It really annoyed me how she didn’t even apologise to the citizens, just a 20 second heartfelt sorry would have helped her character a lot in my eyes

[@Dodds57]

I actually like the lack of an apology as a character moment. What I read from her walking through the town with her hood up & head down is that she realizes there’s nothing she can say to make her actions okay. No amount of “Sorry”s will convince Westview to forgive her. I actually wish the show made that a bit more clear with her interaction with Monica. Make it more that Monica was choosing to let her go, but the authorities would not be as permissive. Wanda was the villain. It just took someone worse than her to make her see it.

[@Mateocabrera2389]

Well did you see the end credit scene. They’re definitely going down the villain road for her.

[@R3lyk5605]

@@Dodds57 Yeah, I almost thought when Monica said she understood why she did it, right behind her was gonna one of the Avengers or somethin ready to take Wanda to super jail. I think that would've been cool, and she still could've been studying the magic book. Just in jail instead of the middle of nowhere.

[@rave-eazy]

@@Mateocabrera2389 i don't believe it. i believe that she's just doing exactly what she said to monica, and just understand her power.

[@halfwayliving]

@@rave-eazy well I don’t think reading the darkhold while her kids are screaming help isn’t a good sign. She might be trying to bring her kids back but reading the darkhold will have consequences. I think this will tie into doctor strange multiverse of madness. Maybe she’ll be the anti-hero, maybe not a full on villain but I think it will start with the problems she created.

[@laurenmasters]

I will say it’s not just “fan theories” marvel itself steered us with peters

[@carloseot5548]

Yup but that was the only one, and it was probably just fan service, the fan theories with the demons, multiverse, Mephisto... they never promised that 😂

[@jonathancohoon]

@Jetrules231 It's more the fact, why used Evan Peters in this role, knowing full well it'll make everyone freak out, if you're just gonna pay it off as He's some random guy?

[@laurenmasters]

@Jetrules231 the closed Captions said “Pietro from Fox X-men appears”

[@Spider-ManHQ]

I blame the actors of the show. Every week they kept teasing big cameos and huge character reveals. They were egging fans on every week and fans were getting excited for the possibilities of a story they were told connected to the multiverse. It's not fans fault for running with it. They were misled.

[@tomstein7131]

@@jonathancohoon because it’s funny lol

[@moonlightprismmusic]

technically “agatha all along” still stands since the song is more about how agatha is the one who has been messing up the things in westview, not that she is responsible for everything that has happened in the show

[@ZarrysLux]

Wanda's character is like Magneto the "protagonist antagonist" and for me its more interesting especially when its done really well. Enjoyed the show 10/10

[@maverickcreations589]

The word is Anti-hero

[@gallafreyandw8109]

Btw, in the last after-credits scene, there is a version of Dr Strange’s theme playing when we see the Scarlet Witch “studying”.

[@krackawoody2556]

My guess is (I know mentioning Maphisto is done to death). But it makes sense that now she has emotional stake to make a deal with him to bring the kids back.

[@domd5376]

Ngl, that whole tangent about understanding fictional characters more than real life humans was actually quite poignant. Quote worthy at the least.

[@maxxe2]

"Hey Wanda, btw I unlocked the other vision's memories so you might want to go look for him lol"

[@matthewwolf90]

Man I kept Waiting WAITING for the white vision to fly in towards the end and offer the chance for the Two Visions to become One Whole Vision!

[@vigneshsk369]

@@matthewwolf90 ikr, what happened to him anyway.

[@WedgeOfSpite]

"They" didn't say there was some Luke Skywalker level cameo, that was a reporter making that statement. Elizabeth Olsen never said that. And Paul Bettany was joking about working with himself. So no, there weren't official things saying that things were going to be more than they were.

[@zaimhilmi5463]

Thank you sir

[@deantaylor5288]

just the comment I was looking for

[@ernestyunardi7454]

I’m copying TVLine website: “Back in December, fellow Disney+ series The Mandalorian stunned viewers with Mark Hamill’s appearance as Luke Skywalker, which had shockingly remained a secret until the Season 2 finale aired. When asked if WandaVision has anything similar in store - namely a casting that she can’t believe hasn’t leaked yet - Olsen gave us a quick, Yes.” So the question is really about whether there is a casting that she can’t believe hasn’t leaked yet, however everyone interpret it as luke skywalker level cameo. Lols

[@techfragrancemarvelfan6072]

We can’t forget the parallels the show made it to trauma, healing, and depression. People who go through this in real life, which is a great number of people, can find many parallels in the series. And I’m so glad that those underlying topics were addressed, they made a difference for me

[@JOSHCHIMICH]

As someone who’s been down said roads many times..- The line: ‘’we’ve said goodbye before, therefore it stands to reason, that we will say hello again’’ Broke me. It just... Absolutely destroyed me. I had never seen a film tackle these subjects so accurately without turning into something disgusting and unbearable, or just mockery and stupidity. This show balanced it very well while keeping it entertaining and MARVEL-ous

[@tentonmotto6779]

@Human Just Wanda WAS a bad guy despite all the tragedy in her life. Just like Thanos. People understand why she was doing it, but it was still fundamentally wrong.

[@dmfuerte]

You can't hold people emotionally hostage in real life either. Wanda ran a literal concentration camp.

[@ieuanhunt552]

Escapism is a fickle bitch. Good in small doses but if you use it to hide from the world it will destroy you.

[@tentonmotto6779]

@Human Just She is aware of the fact that she mindrapes citizens of Westview arguably from day one, but tries to suppress and forget it, pretending like everything is fine. In episode 3 Wanda throws Monica out for breaking the illusion, acknowledging the situation. In episode 5 when she comes out, she is definitely aware of what she is doing. In epsiode 6 she outright asks Pietro if he really thinks that what she is doing is not morally wrong (her conscience is deeply troubled by what's happening). When she tells Monica that she is a villain in episode 7, it's her conscience speaking again. You may assume that she is not fully aware in the sense that Wanda thinks that citizens are in drone-like condition of bliss and only in episode 9 she realizes that they are in deep pain. But even if that was true (and there is a possibility that she was aware), it does not change much. She hijacked their lives, made living people with feelings and aspirations into sitcom puppet slaves against their will. What about relatives of these people unable to contact them? If the story was from their perspective you'd absolutely hate Wanda Maximoff despite her backstory. Wanda is the villain here, I can't see you reasoning out of it. Also your logic about the toy is weak. "Everyone is a hero and a villain at the same time" is a postmodernist concept that happens to be a sophism: logically true, but in reality false. Being a complicit in an evil system is wrong of course, but there is such thing as gradation. Wanda's actions as an individual are magnitudes more harmful and, yes, evil, than actions of an individual buying a toy.

[@mechasentai]

That end monologue is GOLD. Jeremy at a whole new level. And I would argue yes that's exactly what the show/story is about. It's about the manipulation of perception.

[@Titantro]

I think its strange that the "normal people" talk about the Avengers event like they saw it. I mean where did Darcy learn that Wanda killed Version only for Thanos to bring him back?!

[@TheAmazingBoogeyMan]

People talk. The Avengers have "normal people" that they talk to, and those people talk to other normal people, and eventually this kind of thing gets out.

[@SILK97]

Same! I was thinking the same thing! Every knew intimate details of shit that was going down when there was complete chaos. One of the characters even mentioned that Wanda could have taken down Thanos if he didn’t drop a barrage on the Avengers. Like how tf did you get details that specific

[@SteveSmith-ty8ko]

@@TheAmazingBoogeyMan I don’t know this Darcy character at all, what’s her significance? Who is she friends with?

[@zanetapenny8388]

@@SteveSmith-ty8ko Darcy was in the Thor movies. She was Jane's assistant, so she's actually pretty familiar with Thor as she always helped them deal with whatever disaster was going on at the time.

[@55batmanandjoker]

Yep wrote the same thing under jeremys episode 5 review..it Just feels ridiculous...well should just be ignored i guess 🤷‍♂️

[@EdeP79]

I love how Jeremy changed from an energetic shouting movie critic to a long haired philosophical hippy

[@NoOne-sq4et]

Some Manga level character development

[@Magabes_]

I wouldn't call it hippy at all.

[@ambientknightz8211]

@@NoOne-sq4et lmao

[@EdeP79]

@@Magabes_ it's ok don't worry about it.. you don't have to

[@CourtTV.]

I was just thinking to my self why isn't he yelling and shouting? And he sure does seem wiser.

[@TheAbsorbant]

I disagree on "Director Dick". He used "saving the town's population" as an excuse to be there, but his actual objective was to use Wanda's powers to resurrect Vision and use him as a weapon. Note how he went into the town with armored vehicles to attack Wanda's family even after she let all the townspeople go. He wanted "DLC Vision" to kill the Vision that Wanda created and then capture or kill her to get rid of the evidence.

[@Relugus]

How comes Hayward knows about Chaos Magic, though?

[@gamingandrewbro8815]

The avengers did way worse stuff tho....

[@TheAbsorbant]

@@gamingandrewbro8815 Did they? Like what?

[@gamingandrewbro8815]

@@TheAbsorbant creating a robot that can destroy the world recruiting under age kids and killing billions of just so there a slight chance it might work. Also make awful jokes while killing people

[@TheAbsorbant]

@@gamingandrewbro8815 That's all mostly Tony.

[@DrViperVideos]

“Reality is often dissapointing” -Thanos

[@bbtank3000]

True. And reality is that a lot of KZbinrs are creating fake spoilers for views. Our job is to stop watching them. They're creating very high, misled expectations.

[@Elcrisso1]

@@bbtank3000 How can you tell what’s a fake spoiler review until you’ve both watched the review and watched the series through to completion?

[@LouSassol69er]

@@bbtank3000 Heavy Spoilers being a prime candidate. He was gunning so hard for the white Vision to turn into Ultron.

[@JediNg135]

"That its, it was. Now, reality can be whatever I want."

[@erccool]

@@LouSassol69er Man as much as I love Heavy Spoilers for the Tenet breakdowns, they really ran with all the speculations lmao

[@AngelaJoshi]

I am ashamed to say I was really surprised how well you were able to see and explain some truly deep (perhaps unintended) themes of this show. You had some amazing thoughts on how society often forgives compelling villains in fiction - because we like them - and yet will NOT forgive real and flawed humans for even minor offenses. Thank you so much for this review. It definitely gave me a lot to think about beyond the themes of grief they were more focused on.

[@nrgao]

Hayward wasnt trying to free that town though. His whole reason for sending someone there was a missing person's case. He had no clue about the hex until Monica reported it back to him. Then, his main concern was figuring out how she was powering Vision so that he could do the same for his weaponized DLC Vision. It was the same reason he provoked her in the penultimate episode by saying "Not everyone has the power to bring their loved ones back online... excuse me, back to life." He inceptioned that shit into her head while trying to see what would happen if he could get her to do it right there in the SWORD lab. Hayward was out there playing mental chess with witches and lived to talk about it; I call that a win in my book lol

[@GoldenTuskan]

Wow! You are so right! I didn’t catch that!

[@janaeg2698]

Exactly!!!

[@ARottenMuffin]

I felt like him saying that was just some out of place writing, how would some random joe blow even think of her bringing someone 'back to life' when she doesn't even know she could do it? Has she ever revived a dead person previously in the MCU because unless I'm forgetting it there's no basis for him to say such a thing really, like we already knew she could do it because of the show progressing and seemed like that slipped past the writers forgetting it's a flashback. Maybe he's secretly this Mephisto guy people were talking about, otherwise if he really was trying to goad her into it then I guess good luck stopping her from leaving with him for real lol.

[@ChocolateThunder1620]

@@ARottenMuffin I think he said that because he considers Vision a computer but to Wanda he was a living person. Hence the “online” versus “back to life”

[@Mankysausage]

No one actually said there was a “Luke skywalker level cameo” if you look at the original article they took elizabeth olsens words way out of context

[@BigBBQBang]

What did she say?

[@Mankysausage]

@Anthony Quezada that's not true at all, could you link me that?

[@CD-pj5qi]

@Anthony Quezada that’s just a lie lol

[@Mankysausage]

@@BigBBQBang The interviewer said something like "The mandalorian had some cameos are there any in wandavision?" she said "I think people will be excited" This was just before the quicksilver reveal. Also the article then spliced quotes together and gave the luke skywalker headline which misled everyone

[@lexis4490]

@Anthony Quezada That’s what the media said and ran for it, not Elizabeth Olsen.

[@LockeWick]

I wouldn’t say SHE tortured the townfolk, she didn’t seem to actually know what she was putting them through. What she put them through was torture but she didn’t know it until Agatha showed her. As people said, that true villain of the show was grief. It overwhelmed Wanda and turned her into a monster without her even knowing it.

[@twiztedsynz]

The way I've looked at a lot of this show is this is how Wanda is trying to work through her grief and loss and maybe trying to see 'what could have been'. Yes, she put people through hell to achieve it, but in the end, she "had her life" and was able to say good-bye where before she never got that chance at all.

[@KatherinaBathory]

Exactly... And Wanda is destroyed when she found out what she did.

[@byronsenior6499]

But she did kinda know? When the Bee guy came she was like no and rewound things. They kinda kept it ambiguous how much she knew.

[@TheTonyEntertainment]

Even if she "didn't know" she was torturing as you say, they were still being tortured

[@twiztedsynz]

@@byronsenior6499 I wonder if part of her blocked actually knowing what she was doing. I mean it's historically known via the comics Wanda is unstable. I think it's likely in this series they took that and went with the "What if she blocked what she was doing, knowing it was wrong" angle.

[@ryhnoking]

So I just wanna say I totally did not forgive Wanda for her actions. In fact every time I see the scene of Monica saying goodbye to Wanda I am facepalming saying "What BS are you talking about, arrest her or at least tell her she is in trouble with authorities".

[@TyTimeIsAwesome]

Yup. I thought Wanda was going to turn herself in.

[@Ryxn808]

Bro be honest who tf gonna try and arrest her

[@ryhnoking]

@@Ryxn808 the point isn't the attempt but how Monica just let someone who did something horrible off Scot free and worse tried to make it sound like she did something heroic.

[@Ryxn808]

@@ryhnoking yea i get what your saying I really didn’t understand that either

[@ryhnoking]

@James Black doing a terrible thing while being unconscious still holds said person accountable. Like cause a crash because you feel asleep at the wheel or driving under the influence.

[@Drewdapew]

The episode said “the scarlet witch has no need for incantations” I think that’s why Wanda could cast the runes

[@AryaMagi]

Exactly what I thought. 😌

[@seanc9520]

She might just had to know such a thing exist to use it. Like what she was told, power is not her problem, its knowledge

[@KoolKeithProductions]

Bingo. The show explained that Wanda's chaos magic gives her the power of "spontaneous creation", (that's literally the ability to cast extremely powerful spells without any formal training to do so), so Jeremy or anyone else simply asking "how'd she do that?" is kinda useless at this point.

[@FryCanon]

@@KoolKeithProductions I feel like thats a problem though. She's so powerful that she doesn't have to train. Or try. Or learn. She just sees it and can do it. In the future her losing a fight is going to be hard to believe. But then again the plot always wins.

[@KoolKeithProductions]

@@FryCanon It's not that simple tho. Her power is both a gift AND a curse. Look how she was able to bring back her lover, (at the expense of everyone in Westville), only to have to watch him die all over again. She can do these things, but without fully understanding it, it will likely end in ruin. Agatha knows this, and told Wanda she will need her in the future. I believe her 👀

[@CraftShack]

No one actually said there was a Luke Skywalker level cameo. It was misreported by the media.

[@littlebigmarc]

this

[@isabellaearnhardt6380]

Thank you

[@mujiescomedy279]

It was implied, wasn’t it? To my knowledge, Someone asked “will there be a Luke skywalker-level cameo” and they were told “yes”. At least that’s what I heard

[@adambeard4427]

Paul Bettany said there was a cameo with someone he wanted to work with and there would be fireworks, later confirmed he was talking about himself as white vision

[@AlleluiaElizabeth]

I'm really not even clear *why* Hayward was being a dick, honestly. I mean, he has the moral high ground early on regarding the whole "Wanda is a threat and she's keeping 1000s of people hostage." thing. I don't think he *needed* to be villainous. Except for the writers wanting it that way, of course.

[@Spider-ManHQ]

Jahns brought that up in his review. Him trying to shoot the kids felt really out of character, even for his standards. He just seemed like a guy that was trying to bring The Vision back online so he could use him as a sentient weapon and then he happened upon Wanda's Hex and wanted to break in to free the people. But him trying to shoot her kids felt like the writers just trying to make him an unneccesary villain.

[@dreww304]

Ikr, he was really a necessary evil type and then they made him a typical villain in the last 2 episodes lol

[@Mr0011011]

I always thought that his intentions weren't actually for or about the town though. His primary goal was to get Vision up and running and he saw that Wanda created her own functioning version and didn't really care about the town. Having said that, I think it is important to see everyone else as periphery characters. Wanda is the hero and the villain.

[@fuclife]

They needed to give Monica & Jimmy an adversary, who better than the authoritative white male lol

[@meosies1910]

When he said "you don't know what it was like after the snap," or something like that, I thought that could have been an interesting arc for him, that why he started hating heroes and why he wanted vision's body and all. And that would have been understandable cause the heroes lost, they let the people down and Hayward can't trust them anymore, so he's taking things in his own hands. But nope, they had to make him a generic villain to remind us that it's still the MCU. Loved Agnes, couldn't care less for Agatha.

[@BarryJohnson12]

I feel like it’s called series finale because there was like the sitcom inside the hex not because there won’t be a season 2. The “series finale” was like the end of “Wandavision” like the show inside the show. This shit is so meta it’s hard to talk about.

[@Alex_Logan22]

She was full-on Scarlett Witch when she put Agatha under that spell or whatever, at which point she knows what she's doing and isn't tieing it to the hex like she accidentally did before.

[@disguisedcentennial835]

Y’all got so used to Scarlett Johansson’s name that you think the word “scarlet” is spelled with 2 T’s now, and it’s hilarious. Scarlet Witch.

[@lunavioleta001]

But she still kept those people in her control before. She went outside of the Hex and Hayward and Monica asked her to free those people. This is all on Wanda and she deserves to be arrested.

[@JessieJ93]

@@lunavioleta001 nah

[@lunavioleta001]

@@JessieJ93 Yep. She took their free will and refuse to comply with the authorities. One Count for kidnapping, one count for resisting arrest, one count for pointing a gun on a officer and a threat of violence, and you could argue a count for torture. Don't also forget that she attacked Monica who was unarmed.

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@disguisedcentennial835 That was my auto-correct

[@HannaHsOverInvested]

Jeremy: You didn't come here for a 45minute tangent. Me: I really did.

[@KyraHogue]

We want our characters to be complex and thought provoking, but if someone says or tweets something wrong, they are one dimensional and the worst person ever. I wonder when we started expecting people to always be perfect.

[@TheTonyEntertainment]

oh my god this

[@gregoryadams9025]

Sure, but can't we at least hold people accountable for something if they say some stupid shit? There's a nice middle ground here.

[@nemowindsor8724]

America was founded by puritans, and its easy to see that same thinking now.

[@JackAcre21]

@@gregoryadams9025 there is a difference between holding people accountable and canceling their entire being.

[@sebastiamgarcia2140]

Loved your ending analysis cause Its something ive always stated. I think we should allow real people the same nuance and compassion we show to fictional characters. As for Wanda knowing the runes. I assumed since Agatha made such a big deal of it, and all the runes were highlighted and visible when Wanda was trapped in the dungeon, that she memorized them while there. So in the fight all she had to do was cast her power in the shapes she remembered. However I am assuming that rune casting is just drawing the rune, but it could be more complex 😬

[@JackAcre21]

She trapped Agatha in a more self contained “hex”.

[@chaoticlady_fairy]

Pretty much the spell has her living in west view under the identity she chose . But she’s going to be so much worse off for it. They know she’s a witch and made thier lives worse on purpose.

[@sameerkhaleel2027]

Still wierd Agatha doesn't have a backup like bohner who is a witch who can come and touch her head and free her, like Agatha freed few people temporarily in the hex

[@iiRolltide]

@@sameerkhaleel2027 she’s probably been stealing magic from every witch she comes across

[@sameerkhaleel2027]

@@iiRolltide probably but there are always the henchmen around evil guys

[@notPenney]

Agatha was trapped inside her own mind, so she's a citizen of Westview now even tho the hex is gone

[@UnfoundFilms]

No one involved with the show said anything about a “Luke Skywalker cameo” you can thank shit journalism for that.

[@benmac7552]

Everything you talked about when it comes to characters doing really bad things and basically being the villain but people like them because they are the main character and they understand their perspective is incredibly interesting and applies to stuff like breaking bad or the last of us really well. Really interesting concept wandavision kinda flirts with exploring but ultimately changes its minds and decides that they wanna do the same old marvel shtick and paint Wanda as the good guy.

[@thomasbell8451]

Jeremy the director wasn’t trying to save the people in the Hex he was trying to get his ultimate weapon so he would get recognition and a promotion.

[@tentonmotto6779]

Director Hayward is one of the most generic villains in the whole MCU. They could make him interesting early on by making him less of an overt jerk and more of an anti-superhuman force like Zemo or Stryker, a shining example of how normal humans are getting more and more hateful, understandably, towards powered individuals and mutants. But Hayward is just a stupid jerk, there does not seem to be any agenda to his actions beyond stereotypical evil white army man motivations: get superweapon and get a promotion. He is more of General Ross and less of a Zemo.

[@jessebrown1996]

"ultimate weapon" He already has Vision, his objective was to kill Wanda.

[@avxx0035]

@@jessebrown1996 Yeah, that way he could still lie about the fact that she stole Vision's body, and he would just say that white Vision is the one Wanda resurrected and he only killed her to get him back.

[@jessebrown1996]

@@avxx0035 Even if he didn't lie about her stealing the body, she was keeping thousands of people under servitude, morally you could make a case he was in the right.

[@ethrawn373]

That’s some actual bullshit. The writers realized he wasn’t evil enough so they had to shove in as much shit as possible in the last episode to make him the villain.

[@k3n0ju]

The "Luke Skywalker Level" cameo was a headline not a quote from anyone involved in the production.

[@brentsimpson5680]

Thank you lol. It’s so frustrating seeing people complain about it when it was never promised.

[@ozziebrah]

Not true. That is exactly what Elizabeth Olsen said.

[@Ronariverah]

@@ozziebrah she didn't.

[@ozziebrah]

@@Ronariverah "Olsen was asked whether there was anything similar to The Mandalorian‘s cameo in store. “Yes,” she said, followed by an ominous-sounding, “I’m really excited.”

[@k3n0ju]

@@ozziebrah You're misquoting the Feb 3rd article from TVLine that this is based on. The question asked of her was if there was "a casting she can't believe hasn't leaked yet". The Luke Skywalker stuff was the writer/editor 's addition.

[@DonBlackBird71]

Can we all agree that Elizabeth looked absolutely stunning in that outfit, I mean talk about SEXY

[@somerandolad]

100% agree with you there! But then again, when has she ever not looked sexy?

[@edwinblanco-cepeda2340]

That costume was hot! They did a great job on that outfit

[@DonBlackBird71]

@@somerandolad O yeah for sure, but with this outfit, they knew exactly what they were doing

[@somerandolad]

@@DonBlackBird71 Indeed. That was fan service galore! :)

[@josesarango3408]

that was one of the great things of a show that overall I didn't care much for

[@hunterkiller1440]

Wanda in a nutshell: How badly did she fuck up? Age of Ultron: Wanda indirectly created Ultron which destroyed Slokovia and killed her brother. Civil War: Wanda's indirect creation of Ultron made Stark feel guilty, causing a splinter in the Avengers. She also accidentally blew up a building, creating public mistrust. Both events led to Civil War. Wandavision: Her grief created this torturous fantasy world and attracted an actual witch to steal her powers.

[@StephenIC]

But also she pretty hot so it all balances out in the end.

[@LordVader1094]

@@StephenIC Yeah pretty much

[@hawksasuke97]

Yeah, nobody forced Tony to make Ultron. She showed him his fears, but he made his choice. Also, love how Tony contributing weapons to war efforts and helping people blow each other up to make a profit, enlisting a minor to help fight in a dangerous battle against rebel Avengers while lying to his guardian about it, and creating a murder bot that killed plenty of people gets swept under the rug by the same people who want to whine about Wanda. Oh, and Thor decides to abandon the quest to save BILLIONS of lives out of grief so he can go see his dead mommy and that’s cool. Meanwhile, Wanda makes a selfish decision that jeopardizes the lives of others out of grief and it’s a problem. Mkay🙄🙄

[@magikforce4069]

Because Wanda gets no consequences.Those characters do get called out or receive a consequence for those actions.Wanda literally gets to run away from everything