Warbonnet Superfly Tarp Setups for All Weather

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

One of my subscribers requested an in-depth review of the Warbonnet Superfly tarp. I have done videos on the Superfly in the past but not at this level. I hope you enjoy. Also, if you have any suggestions for topics you would like to see on future videos, please leave a comment. Thanks for watching. 👍😀

[@chrislrob]

This was the great. I have the same tarp and hammock setup. I've had it for years and never set up into porch mode until this year. Gamechanger! I'm only 6'1", but not having to nearly crawl under my tarp like in storm mode is SO much better. I think I was trying to have the security of a tent. And I love waking up in the morning and being able to look out at the woods.

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

Porch mode is my favorite for the same reason. I really appreciate the comment. Thanks for watching!

[@fatmanfaffing4116]

Love the accent, the enthusiasm and excitement really gives the video appeal. I subscribed!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I really appreciate the comment. I hope you enjoy the channel. Thanks for subscribing!

[@pedroclaro7822]

Over 20k views, and 600 likes. Outrageous! People, upvote this video!! Thst trick with the elastic cord in the guylines is great! I personally attached a loop of it on all tarp tieouts where I use guylines. Doesn’t weight much and makes a world’s difference. Plus I was able to attach tensioners to them. So I peg things out and then tension it from the tarp. Much easier to adjust it this way instead of adjusting from the peg end of it - cuz it’s farther away. It’s good for my lazy ass and it saves me from a little extra wetness when pitching in the rain. Porch mode is the best! Protection AND a view. My most used setup with the Amok Draumr (perpendicular hammock) cuz on side is in my back and the other is what I look at all my time in the hammock.

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

Nice information in the comment! Thank you for taking the time to do that.

[@chucklynn1119]

thanks much for the review!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm glad the video helped.

[@angelaillneverseeanowlschm9128]

Great video!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching.

[@xzzdrewzzx]

You are the man!!! I just purchased this to try out next year with a hammock setup. Thanks John

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I'm glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

[@notquiteultralight1701]

This was a great description of the superfly John. I hope warbonnet is sending you a gift certificate for your efforts!😁 That was very informative and helpful. Tske csre sir. NQU

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found some value. I like the Warbonnet products. Thanks for watching and posting a comment. You take care.

[@Gamble9110]

Very informative!! Fantastic information! Great presentation! Thank you!!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found some value. Thanks for posting a comment and watching. I hope to see you on the next one.

[@jbeebe2]

Thanks for the helpful info and tips. Your videos are appreciated.

[@jbeebe2]

The loops around the plastic triangles for quick deployment in bad weather mode is very smart and useful. I will do that.

[@jbeebe2]

Chock full of good ideas

[@ryanbrown3334]

Great video! I really appreciate how you show how easily the different set-ups based on weather conditions and/or preferences. I have ordered the 13' Superfly based on your excellent presentation.

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

You can't go wrong with the Superfly. Mine has held up nicely over the years in wind and rain (no snow here though). I may have to seam seal the ridge some day, but so far, it has never leaked. I'm glad the video helped. Thanks for the nice comment!

[@FranklinHicks-qs4gs]

Such a dork. Luv it

[@hijinxignatius]

I LOVE my Warbonnet Superfly. I haven't camped without it since I got it 2 years ago. Though, I use a cot or camp on the ground.

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

The Superfly rules! I've ground camped with mine before and it has a lot of room inside. Thanks for commenting and watching!

[@twentyonetwelve2179]

Great review John! I had two 1 brown and 1 charcoal... sold them both. Why... Durability. I had one that got holes from a branch falling on it, wasn't that bad or big either but the tarp was wet at the time, in a storm. Maybe the moisture made it weaker? The other one had some issues from Warbonnet with the ridge line were it's sewn in. They repaired it once but it started to unravel again so they sent me another (GREAT WARRANTY AND CUSTOMER SERVICE) but I couldn't trust it after that. People think I'm crazy now because i carry an Aquaquest "Defender" 13 x 10 tarp now. Yes it's 5lbs but its also pretty much bomb proof! i had some snakeskins made just for it... that's something you should try, and a continuous ridge line, both make tarps much easier to handle / set-up. Didn't mean to ramble, LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I have thought about getting the snakeskin. I've watched other videos that use them and it appears to make the deployment easier; especially in windy conditions. As always, thanks for commenting and watching, I really appreciate it.

[@twentyonetwelve2179]

@@JohnMillwoodOutdoors I use one piece skins on my tarps. I also use two piece skins on my Warbonnet Original Blackbird. Keeping wet / tree sapped suspension in the same bag as my hammock annoyed me. I have a system so I can keep them outside my pack, hang them, then hang the hammock to the suspension and I keep the hammock inside my pack (in skins). Suspension can stay wet / dirty outside and hammock stays dry inside. It also makes for a bigger area to work in during the day if the weather is bad. I just use the 2 skins on the hammock, un-hook it from the suspension, put it somewhere dry, leave the straps on the trees for later. Gives you the entire tarp area as cover. And the 2 skins on the hammock ends make GREAT water breaks!!!

[@chrislrob]

@@JohnMillwoodOutdoors Snakeskins are one of the few pieces of gear that I've ever made myself. They are also the best thing that I've made even though I did a terrible job! They are great when it is windy an for when you are 905 sure you don't need a tarp at all but want to make things easier if you do. Just put it up but leave it in the snakeskins. You can still deploy pretty quickly.

[@MattEdwards-Davies-sr4gs]

Great video; informative, well shot, and well edited. Thanks! I have a 13’ Silpoly Superfly on the way to use with both my GE Superior hammock and WB Ridgerunner. Just out of curiosity, what length Superfly is this? I ordered 13’ for my Ridgerunner, but am concerned I won’t be able to get it buttoned down this well in bad weather mode when using a shorter gathered end hammock. Cheers and thanks!

[@kenk4555]

Great video! I just received my new Superfly Silpoly in the mail today and will be setting it up this weekend.

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@zacharykennedy922]

Hello sir. What knot do you use to attach the shock cord to the guyline? Thank you.

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I use a clove hitch on both ends. Thanks for the question. I hope you enjoyed the video. I appreciate you watching!

[@pavlycksmith7780]

Very good video, I enjoyed it a lot. I like the idea for loops to quickly set up "bad weather mode". Subscribed!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I'm glad you got some value out of the video. Thanks for commenting, subscribing and watching!

[@fitzdevlin]

[NOTE: all thoughtful hammock campers should take steps to preserve the well being of the trees we all use to support us by using at least 1.5" tree straps, AS OPPOSED to thinner cordage which doesn't distribute the shocking amount of force even a properly hung hammock can leverage on our vital trees.] good job, sir! not to get to arrogant (think you've got 10 years on me), but your experience shows in your choices for setup...i'm a woodworker and woodbutcheer xD and a lot of my instruction has made me silently critical of a lot of methods and ideas...but everyone's needs are a bit different; i'd say that the setup you show here is an elegant one, maybe not a 'beginner', but one that would benefit most. it may be a bit more complicated than some setups, but it's a rock-solid, rational, and clever setup method that will make the easily found obsession with hammocks some of us find quickly progress to mastery! that said, i became obsessed with Dyneema cordage of different types when in took a gig restoring a 1970 William Garden ketch...i'm no sailor, maybe now a bit of a 'rigger', but i just couldn't stop learning splicing techniques, making continuous loops, soft shackles, whoopie slings, and i've used a 'bar knot' technique to make a ~7/16 (~11mm) wide by around 22" long keycard/ID lanyard for my my mother out of an expensive amount of the silver Lash-It xD so i decided to replace almost everything in my Blackbird/Superfly suspension system NOT made of Dyneema with either Lash-It or 7/64 silver Amsteel Blue. the tarp suspension is all Lash-it with an 8 turn Prusik on one side and an 8 turn Klemheist on the other, both made from continuous loops. each end of my tarp ridgeline also has 2 Dutchweargear.com "Wasps" for quick looping around each tree. additionally, i replaced the straps of the hammock suspension that comes the Blackbird XLC with Dutchweargear.com's, 2″ 1.5 Spider Web Straps and also 7/64" Amsteel whoopies... it cuts weight a bit, it'll make you feel like you made your hammock entirely yourself, and it boggles the minds of people who see the system in person xD i may shortly be a competitor with bushcrafting KZbinrs, ha ha...so i'll try to remember to update you when i get a video of the suspension up here on the 'tube 8D thanks again!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

What a fantastic comment! Please make a video of your hammock rigging. Thanks for watching!

[@fitzdevlin]

@@JohnMillwoodOutdoors glad you liked it. i'll absolutely let you and my other KZbinr friend's know when i've got some content. thanks again for sharing your time!

[@zacharykennedy5752]

Gotta get that video up Sir, I find this intriguing.

[@richardreed6249]

Do you run a ridgeline under the full length of the tarp, or only connect the ends of the tarp to the tree?

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

Most of the time I just connect the ends to the tree. You can run a full length ridgeline if you like. I had a viewer recommend using a full ridgeline to prevent stress on the tarp if winds cause the trees to sway apart, thereby stretching the ridgeline instead of putting all that pressure on the tarp. I thought that was a good idea. Thanks for the question. I appreciate you watching my video.

[@garrettcarter6076]

Hey john. My name is Garrett Carter, I live in Mobile and have the same hammock and tarp set up. Would you ever consider a meet up at oak mountain to spend a little time working with me on setting it all up several times. I would be willing to drive up to spend a few hours learning from you if you are willing

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

Hey Garrett, I might not can do the meetup, but I can make a video that could help. Is there anything in particular you are struggling with in your setup? How much time have you had in the woods or backyard? Please suggest something if you like. I will go ahead and plan for a detailed video on what I do along with tips. Thanks for asking and watching!

[@MrMclovin344]

John, Can you share the length of shock cord and guyline that you use for your corner pull outs? Thanks!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

The shock cord is about 10 inches. The guylines across the front (4 of them including the door corners) are 20 feet. The guylines across the back (4 of them including the door corners) are 6 feet. I have found that 20 feet across the front allows me to tie off to a nearby tree in porch mode. For the back, I normally stake closer to the ground so they are only 6 feet. Thanks for watching!

[@axeldevine9451]

Just one question, how long are the guy lines that you use to tie off your tarp?

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

My front four guy lines are probably 20 feet or longer. The back four though are much shorter, maybe 8-10 feet. I normally pitch the back lower to the ground. The front I like to pitch as a porch, which takes a longer line. Thanks for the question.

[@toms6841]

I'm considering purchase of this tarp to go with my new WB Ridge Runner hammock. I would be interested to know which material you selected for your Superfly Tarp and your rationale. Thanks! Also, another YT reviewer uses some WB spreader poles across the ridgeline to provide lift at the side-mounted tie outs. Any thoughts on that? Thanks!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I have the silnylon version of the Superfly. I'm not sure there was a choice of silpoly when I purchased mine several years back. Mine has held up real well over the years, and it has never leaked in the ridge. You may hear of some people seam sealing the ridge, but I have never done that. I can't give you much info on selecting between a silnylon vs silpoly as I'm not educated enough to give advice on the two materials. I have seen videos showing the spreader pole across the ridge and it looks interesting. It will give you more room inside to move around when you stake the tarp down to the ground for bad weather conditions. That extra flare out in the middle would be handy because when you button the tarp to the ground you have a tight area between the hammock and tarp. I hope this helps. Thanks for commenting and watching!

[@stretch130MFE]

Now I know where I heard your voice; I was watching "Shooter" again the other day - That old crusty codger in the cabin that they went to ask about the Russian sniper...

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

That's hilarious. I know exactly who you are talking about. I have watched the movie numerous times. I'll need to watch it again. Thanks for commenting. I hope you enjoyed the video.

[@stretch130MFE]

@@JohnMillwoodOutdoors Sorry for only bringing that up. I did like the video and want to say thanks for taking the time and effort. It was a help in my decision and getting my new XLC setup.

[@mcorbeil144]

Hey John, I really liked your video, thanks! By the way there are no two videos at the end at your cue! Wanted to let you know. Love your accent and cheerful attitude!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

Thanks for stopping by to watch a video. I'm glad you found some value. Thanks for the heads up on the end screens. I'm stuck with this southern accent from Alabama. I really do appreciate your comments.

[@mcorbeil144]

@@JohnMillwoodOutdoors Cheers! Alabama, eh? That's great, such a charming accent! Keep the great videos coming! -from Alberta, Canada

[@GWiggles69]

You are so endearing and I love you

[@Enigma277]

How do you keep the ground cloth/tarp/sheet/mat from flying off in the wind? Stake it, and replace it every time?

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

That is a Zpacks footprint for one of their tents which has six stake loops. It's a strong piece of gear and has been holding up nicely. I use the MSR Mini stakes to tie it down. I tie down each corner as well as the middle loop in the back. I don't put a stake in the middle front loop since it would be something to step on. Thanks for the question. I appreciate you watching my video!

[@JH_Phillips]

Awesome video!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found some value. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@JH_Phillips]

@@JohnMillwoodOutdoors Going to take what I learned here and try out my first winter backcountry camp here in the Boundary Waters of Minnesota this year! Gonna need to add a underquilt though!

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

@@JH_Phillips Yes, you will need an underquilt that works for your cold temperatures.

[@sloaneisenbart9347]

i challenge you sir to a stealth camp. your pick

[@SeniorHiker77]

I'm not a hammock camper but the superfly tarp looks very interesting. Nice review.👍

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@joeverrill6837]

John, I have a question about hammocks for you. I am looking at a warbonnet blackbird XLC for myself but I'm not sure. My one concern is that I am 6'5" and not sure if the hammock would be big enough. You look a little taller than most of the backpacking youtubers out there. How tall are you and do you think it would fit me well?

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I'm 6'4'' and the XLC fits me. Now my feet are not pushing out of the footbox but it is tight. I had a guy about two months ago who was 6'10" asking about the XLC, and I recommended he contact the folks over at Warbonnet for their advice. I recommend you do the same just because the hammock is not cheap, and if you had to send it back it would be just time consuming and a waste of your time. I think it will work for you, but I would contact them to verify. I've emailed them in the past and they will respond back. I really do like my XLC as it is very comfortable. The shelf feature is a big plus. Thanks for watching my video and posting the question. Good luck in your hammock adventures.

[@clayprobstfl]

I am 6'6" and have no issues with this hammock. Feet fit in the box just fine.

[@Gamble9110]

Where is a good place to get this tarp?

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

You can get this tarp at Warbonnet Outdoors. Below is the link. www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/

[@RonnieShawley]

What size is this rain fly?

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

This is the 11 ft. tarp. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@benevolution1338]

Hey John. I live in a hot and heavy mosquito area, and they are vicious! Have you ever had a mosquito bite through the bottom of your hammock?

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

No, I have not been bitten from the bottom. The bottom of my hammock is double layered which could be preventing that problem, but I'm not sure.

[@RootsLion]

help ive had three yes three onewind camo underquilt protectors now.. all three have had the cords n plastic fitting arranged differently and none of the vids show exactly how its supposed to come set up or how exactly your supposed to attach it to the quilt or the hmk 4 cords 3 diff sets a four clips hooks ect and on the third every cord had a loop tied n sum carabiners thrown in that the ist two didnt... im sooo dam confused help

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I don't have an underquilt protector, but this video might help you get set up. I assume you also have the Onewind underquilt for your hammock. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYnYaZSiZpiIadk

[@RootsLion]

@@JohnMillwoodOutdoors cheers im a eejat .. still dont uderstand the crocodile clips n dem pichers w a hook are not the most secure butcan mek work.. id been trying adiff way similar to thecarabiner each end idea id seen that and fgot it lol ta

[@RootsLion]

@@JohnMillwoodOutdoors 11ft camo hmk no net.. 12ft camo tarp shelter n d cheaper of the down underquilts.. all 1wind.. an a onetigris hmk with net cut off lol

[@rolltide1912]

What kind of pad do you have outside of your hammock that you’re stepping on?

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

That is a Zpacks footprint for one of their tents. I think they call it a groundsheet now, but when I bought this one, it was called a footprint. It's an expensive piece of gear; but it weighs nothing, packs up nice and does the job for me. I always stake that down under my hammock so when I take off my shoes, my socks don't get wet and muddy. Thanks for commenting and watching! Some more info about the footprint. It has six tie-outs so you can stake it down. I use the mini groundhog stake for this.

[@davidr6585]

After several of your vids wherein you have a ground tarp under the hammock, I've been wanting to ask but I guess you've answered in this or the previous video. Am I correct in that you use the ground tarp simple to give yourself... "a floor" to step out on or sit on to stay out of the dirt or mud? Or is there more reasons for one? Thanks John, your videos out of all the others seem to make the doing, "more doable" :)

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

Yes, I use that ground tarp to step out onto something dry. When it's raining, you have a dry place to sit. I have also used my alcohol stove for cooking underneath the tarp (only in porch mode) when raining. In this case, I place the alcohol stove off the ground tarp at the end while I kneel and sit on the tarp. Thanks for watching and commenting. I really do appreciate it!

[@hijinxignatius]

Hey, John! Are you an android? Those unbreakable stares are questionable.

[@JohnMillwoodOutdoors]

I could be. Thanks for watching!

[@reneecase8678]

Does it bother anyone else that Warbonnet has a logo of a Native American with a Native American head dress and it's owned by a white man? I bought an underquilt from this company and when I saw the logo I had to send it back and they changed me a 20% restocking fee but I could not stomach the cultural appropriation by this company.

[@zacharykennedy5752]

Nut case

[@sdfaasf7574]

its garbadge