How To Test Or Bypass Frigidaire/Electrolux Washer Door Latch Lock 1317632 131763202

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@WardCo 3 жыл бұрын

Turns out there ARE other videos on YT that go inside this thing, though mine has more detail (and needless repetition!). But watching those let's me clarify my thinking on a few things: 1. You have the electro-mechanical relay-driven "fork" lock, which can be cancelled instantly (to add more clothes, say). If the door-close terminals are active, it means the door is closed AND electro mechanically locked. Washer won't start? Check the relay coil. 2. You also have the wax-motor-driven time-delay lock, which is activated just before the high-speed spin. If the plunger for that doesn't extend and close the "safely locked" terminal (orange), then the washer won't spin. So if washer won't spin, do the wax motor diagnostics in this video.

@bobmcewen19 2 жыл бұрын

There might be others, but I found yours first. The detail and logical approach and presentation were great ! I have the same part number as you, and the same problem (open relay coil). I've ordered a replacement from Amazon, but I might play with the coil while I'm waiting. I checked right at the soldered terminals, and it was still open, so probably not much hope.

@chrisanders4923 5 ай бұрын

There's a third plastic pin by the latch mechanism

@bellowphone 2 жыл бұрын

"If you lack the necessary skill to do this kind of work, you should definitely have a few drinks first." You are a gem, brother. Thank you for this excellent video; I have had a couple of stiff tots, and I am off to attempt to hotwire my machine.

@BJcanal270 5 ай бұрын

😅😂😅

@sayedkazim7495 20 күн бұрын

Super video. Thank you so much for your time and help. Very clear specific instructions to safely test and diagnose door switche. Your awesome and smart. Again thank you. Dave,

@liudr 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to explain how this part works and taking it apart to show what's what, for those of us who want to know how things work. I ended up finding that my relay coil broke (open) and my replacement worked!

@LynetteBumstead Ай бұрын

Wow, great video. We were able to watch with the part in hand and now we understand how it works. (or doesn't work in our case) Appreciate the time you took, very well done.

@chrissatterlee4287 Жыл бұрын

FYI, my washer had a "Washer Tech Data Sheet" inside, under the top cover. It has a schematic. This video was very useful. My relay coil is open too. That's all I really needed to know, but I love knowing how the whole thing works - especially the wax motor mechanism. Thank you!

@chrissatterlee4287 Жыл бұрын

My data sheet (for Frigidaire FAFW3921NW0) has a part number. It can be found online by searching for "137312800 pdf"

@chrissatterlee4287 Жыл бұрын

I thought that might be helpful, but I just looked at the PDF you created, and your diagram is much more useful. And neither compares with seeing what is inside and having you describe it all. Not to mention, you included most of the data sheet from your dryer. Sorry for the noise.

@WardCo Жыл бұрын

Nonsense. Not noise at all. Lots of people will skim the comments and skip the video -- i know I do sometimes; it's faster -- and comments like yours will be a help. Cheers.

@tywilkinson469 4 ай бұрын

Super appreciate you taking the time to thoroughly go through all of this!

@DaveRaveVideo Жыл бұрын

Thanks!!! This video helped me figure out how to replace (re-wire) an old-style, discontinued, 6-connection door-latch (Frigidaire part # 1312694) to this style of new 8-connetion door-latch (part # 131763256) on my 24-year old Frigidaire FWT449GFS0 front-loading washer (thereby saving me ~$800 and a lot of time/hassle). The components on the old-style latch are not concealed so I could easily see which 2 wires went to the solenoid (blue/white & white wires), the switch (red/black & black), and wax motor (red & white) but since the original system didn't have the right connector plugs, I didn't know how to wire the new door-latch. In case it helps others... I had to cut-off the old 2-pin wax-motor plug and replace it with 2 insulated spoon-connectors that could fit over the prongs of the new wax motor. The old-style system did not monitor the wax-motor opened/closed contacts, so I left those unconnected. However I tested it and the wax motor still works to keep the door locked for a delay (until the drum stops spinning), same as it always did. Replacing the $19 switch saved me the time, hassle & cost of buying an $800 washer, and getting the old one removed (not to mention the environmental cost of putting the old one in the landfill and building a new one). It also saved me the hassle of trying to figure out how to secure my dryer to the top of a new washer, since they're stacked. Update/edit: Here's a link to explanation photos that I took. drive.google.com/drive/folders/1q0pwsCDhGYcctC-OJS6eawIPJIWLa5PM?usp=sharing

@WardCo Жыл бұрын

This is great to hear, and you can bet your comment will help someone else as well.

@kalo93406 Жыл бұрын

I have this old 6 wire lock as you did. My wire colors are the same. I understand how you did the wax motor. In this video above when he is messing inside, there are 6 connectors. You left the #5 & 6 wax-motor opened/closed contacts unconnected as I understand what you wrote. Can you let me know which of the "solenoid (blue/white & white wires), the switch (red/black & black)" you put on 1 through 4 connectors. Would be very helpful. Also where did you buy the new door latch lock for such a good price? Thanks if you can help.

@kalo93406 Жыл бұрын

Turns out today I tested the old wax motor and solenoid. Both operate normally with current applied. Also my switch has continuity when closed. Seems like it should be ok. Don't see any broken parts. Must be some other reason the machine isn't getting power to operate. Hmmm back to the drawing board.

@Dan-tg5fs Жыл бұрын

@@kalo93406 did you find out where to connect the existing wires to the 1 through 4 connectors? I'm stuck at the same spot! Thanks if you can advise

@kalo93406 Жыл бұрын

@@Dan-tg5fs I've kind of forgotten the specifics of what I might have known before. I didn't have to change out my door lock part (wax motor) as it tested good. I did find the cause of my loss of power though. My struts were shot and it's hard to remember exactly, but I think my drum was spinning kind of violently and actually cracked the plastic under the pullout detergent tray on one side and I think caused a electrical connector to become loose on the other side at the timing mechanism. Patched up the damaged plastic using a soldering iron. Changed the two struts and my machine is back in business for the time being. One nice thing on this old model is that lower front panel is separate and gives access to change the struts/shocks without removing the whole front panel, which is nice if one has the drier stacked on top.

@TopMJW 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, Ward. I watched it to the very end. I always do repairs exactly the same way...once I diagnose and replace a bad part, I like to take it apart to see how it works and why/how it broke. :) Thanks for taking the time to do this video!

@frederickorourke5412 Ай бұрын

Great in depth video. I already had my switch fully taken apart prior to finding your video. Was hoping to find a way to bypass & allow machine into high speed spin mode. This was very helpful to point out the final two contacts at the bottom. I believe that is my target to remedy my current situation. Attempting to remedy the situation until Bezo sends a stoned delivery driver over to my house as well. Actually we just get USPS due to it being somewhat rural. Just as quick though. Thanks.

@grumpyoldrockers1048 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Very detailed as this was happening to my washing machine Frigidaire affinity. Almost tossed it and then I found the part on Amazon for $25.

@OscarSowten 6 ай бұрын

Great video saved me $39 by bypassing that door switch . I think I'll leave it like that it makes it easier to operate the washer. Thank's again.👍👍

@bradector5640 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for making this video. With the information you gave me, I was able to bridge the wax motor contacts and restore the high speed spin cycle. The kids now have clean and dry clothes without the dryer having to work overtime.

@brycegordon1705 2 жыл бұрын

Did you have to do anything special besides bending the contacts together? I also tried that and it seems like the timer just runs much faster the last 10ish minutes and still won't spin

@thalmoo6075 8 ай бұрын

Wow! Great video! I had lost hope about finding out how to enter the diagnostic mode (I have made an appointment to pay $125 to have someone come out to do it.). I will use your sheet and try to do the diagnostic myself. Problem: No spin/door lock doesn't lock. Meanwhile I have ordered a door lock assembly.. This machine has had problems - purchased in 2016; water pump replaced in 2021.

@bellowphone 2 жыл бұрын

Just so you won't worry that I got drunk and electrocuted myself, I'll report that I just installed my newly received door latch assembly, and now the old washer runs as good as new. The wax motor on the old assembly was bad, but since the unit is over 20 years old, instead of just replacing the wax motor, I figured I would put in a whole new assembly, since it's only $22, delivered, from Amazon. Your video really helped me diagnose the problem, and now I feel like Mighty Mouse.

@WardCo 2 жыл бұрын

Whew! Congrats and thanks for the kind words.

@jezebelinadancer 8 ай бұрын

Hey! It's the bellowphone guy! Hello! I also bought a new latch. The old rustbucket continues with the "Aaaangh!" sound. *sigh smdh

@bellowphone 8 ай бұрын

@@jezebelinadancer Hello, from the bellowphone guy. Yay for keeping the old rustbuckets running. If you find that the bad sound gets worse, I recommend installing a big radio in the laundry room, and turning it up while the wash is running.

@danthaman74 11 ай бұрын

Thank for putting this together and the little bit of comedy !😂

@sb0368 6 ай бұрын

Awesome video, very informative and really helped me to understand my switch. Mine also has a bad coil circuit. Always open, infinity resistance reading on my Fluke. I'm a ham radio operator as well and thought it resembled morse code, but man that guy is a real "lid". I could not figure out what he was sending. HAHA! Thanks so much for taking the time to make such a detailed video. Good job!

@bobmcewen19 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video ! Best I've seen.

@halfanhour2128 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video I had the same problem. When I opened it up I could see the coil wire had separated from the contact but I was able to solder it back on and it works again.

@canadaftw0 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video very helpful. My door switch stopped working, for a temporary fix I took the unit apart and bent the door switch contacts up they would be made all the time, then put it all back together.

@frederickorourke5412 Ай бұрын

I’m about to do the exact same thing right now! How did it work out for you? Any issues? I was concerned it wouldn’t unlatch & lock the washed clothes into the washer afterwards…..or break it trying to close it with lock activated. My wife had mentioned that machine is messing up due to “door lock” alert. Machine won’t go into high speed spin. I’m probably going to wait until morning to make the adjustment. Thanks.

@markinvt 8 ай бұрын

This was great. The top prong of my washer's door latch broke off, nowhere to be found. I replaced the latch but when I turn the washer on, I get the "arrrrgh" sound. It must still be inside the assembly. I hope I can pry it out with needle-nose pliers, and not have to open it up but if I do, this video was immensely helpful. Thanks!

@WardCo 8 ай бұрын

After I changed the drum seal and latch on mine, the door wouldn't close as easily -- so I'd get an "arrrgh" sound from the latch solenoid vibrating trying to grab the plastic door-latch tang. Solution for me was to push the door in manually on the right side with a bit of force.

@zachvincent4964 Жыл бұрын

This literally saved me from having to buy parts. I had the exact same problem on my door lock, but I removed the coil and found that the wire had come unsoldered. From that point, it was a pretty simple fix

@emichemich4938 Ай бұрын

Hello. I saw your video and wanted to ask you if there's a way to open the door after the washer stops and not to wait a minute for the wax plunger to retract? Also is there a way to trick the board that the RPM of the motor are high enough to start the high speed spinning? Sometimes the load is too heavy and the motor doesn't go to high speed spinning. Thanks

@CatfishD Жыл бұрын

Nice video. Turns out my wax motor was bad, it wasn't making the door closed contact. I jumped that and still have no high speed spin. I also have replaced my speed control board. Pulling my hair out, what next! Any idea?

@donsundberg5730 2 жыл бұрын

My wax motor Ohmed out at around 1250. Took the switch apart and tested it on the bench and the wax motor struggled to have enough stroke to make the contacts close. I was manually actuating the fork just to be sure it was out of the way of the finger and after 4.5 minutes it just barely would not make contact. You could push on the slide the motor was moving and get it to make contact but it wasn't consistent. It didn't move as far as yours. Looks like it is time for a new switch. Thanks for the video.

@WardCo 2 жыл бұрын

And thank you for the report. These kinds of comment are always helpful for others as far as describing the range of things you might discover "in the wild."

@StickShaper 3 ай бұрын

Great video. I found that both coil leads were broken off due to vibration I’d guess soldered back on & it worked, for how long is anybody’s guess🤓

@GARYxxx Жыл бұрын

thanks alot pal,this is jus what i want

@mackfisher4487 3 жыл бұрын

Ward, you do a nice job of putting together videos, I think it was appropriate that you celebrated clean close by playing the blue Danube. It's not proper that I hope that some appliance or other gadget you own breaks so that I can watch your scientific brain diagnose and repair the item. I hope all goes well with you and yours.

@WardCo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Mack. Best to you too.

@montydaniels1054 Жыл бұрын

@WardCo. That plastic piece broke but I noticed that the electrical part looked bad so I replaced it as well. Now after I installed the latch switch assembly, I noticed that the door wouldn't latch... I had to hold the door in place & wait till the control double clicked. Next the door wouldn't unlock. I'm just going to put the original latch assembly back in. Perhaps it'll work normally.... Thanks for the video & I'll update this comment if the original part works better... Dan

@freecheese4143 2 жыл бұрын

Grateful explanation!

@matthewwilliams2818 3 ай бұрын

Hey. So, I have this washer. I’ve had random issues over the past few months of the door not locking all the way. Well, noticed this morning, went to go turn the washer on, all the lights blinked really fast one time and the washer won’t power up at all. I’ve unplugged it for an hour and tried again, same thing. Could this door switch cause that to happen?

@WardCo 3 ай бұрын

Probably not. Door closing problems (at least with my machine) are generally the result of the tub seal getting in the way thus making you push the door to get the solenoid to latch. I'd say you're getting into control board problems (and I did a video when I swapped kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3nYcomqi7Wkd6M) but the fact that your machine is not powering up at all points to power supply problems, and I *think* power goes to the motor control board in the back first and then up to the control board. So, if it were me, I'd poke around on the motor control board and take some readings and look for damage -- the idea being to verify if power is being sent up to the control board at all before tearing into the top/front of the unit to get to that.

@stevieg.4816 8 ай бұрын

To simplify your hack is to add a switch to the 110v switch at the bottom killing the power to it allowing the wax to cool, and give it a few seconds then it will cool down unlocking the door. Essentially the same as unplugging the machine. So why all the nerdy intricate messing with the wiring? Your explanation of how it functions is truly appreciated, the way to diagnose if the part is defective is spot on, but the hack is absolutely unnecessary to unlock the door. Unplug the machine and be patient, it will happen.

@WardCo 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Stevie. It's not so much wanting to get into the drum as it is wanting to be able to spin the drum when one or both of the locks are inoperative.

@songzhang3468 Жыл бұрын

Very detail vedio

@Leo-gt1bx Жыл бұрын

Will the pump still run if this fails? My pump spins but motor is dead. Door locks and unlocks

@kennethday8791 Жыл бұрын

Followed every step to bypass door open fault even go as far as using heat shrink to make sure there was no exposed wire or contact plugged it back in pop the computer instantly mine is a 2012 energy star Frigidaire the exact same switch exact same three plugs jumper the wires just like you did on yours even using the same

@caseydaley11 7 ай бұрын

Good video

@danielrufledt5246 2 жыл бұрын

Have one that locks and immediately unlocks. Any ideas?? I replaced both boards and switch. Tks

@danielrufledt5246 2 жыл бұрын

Have one that locks and immediately unlocks. It will not stay locked. Replaced the lock,both control boards and same thing happens. Any thoughts on this?? Tks

@williamnowicki68 Жыл бұрын

Can the wax motor harness be installed improperly? I can’t remember orientation when removed. Mine are red and red/white wires with red/white closest to door when installed?

@WardCo Жыл бұрын

No, I think it is keyed. It will also work in either direction I believe, since it is just a heating element.

@tinagamboa-realestate1013 8 ай бұрын

Do you know how to open the door lock on that device w when it's like Schutt after cycle and lock door light is no longer on?

@WardCo 8 ай бұрын

If it won't open after, say, 10 minutes and with the power off, the wax motor is stuck extended. I don't know if that is a real thing or not, but that's about all it could be. If that's the case, there are no good options. Unscrewing just the switch from the front won't give you any access since the latch won't "let go." All I can think is that you'd have to disassemble the front of the unit. Ugh. Still, it is much more likely to be the electric solenoid, in which case a power cut will release it. Also be sure you're pulling hard enough, and maybe a little in the "up" direction.

@tboss6689 Жыл бұрын

my problem is the washer will not spin fast . i have tested the door lock switch .Relay coil good ,wax switch good .Wax switch give about 1.52k ohms it passes all the test you show. On the wax switch i saw you gave it 120v to activate the switch but the connector that goes to the switch on mine only produces abut 85v . yet the switch does work .Im wondering if that would be an issue ? did you measure the wax switch connecter on yours to see if it gives 120v? thanks in advance for any advice you may have on this

@WardCo Жыл бұрын

I seem to remember also measuring a lower voltage at the connector -- but I assumed I was just getting voltage divider effects from the wiring because I don't think there is any circuitry or reason to not use line voltage everywhere. Check out my recent follow-up video. I too lost fast spin, the switch tested fine, and I wound up replacing the control board. (Which sucks, I know, but it fixed it.) kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3nYcomqi7Wkd6M

@tboss6689 Жыл бұрын

@WardCo hum .interesting . Well I think if it's not the door lock switch it might be the control panel or the motor control board . I dont know

@WardCo Жыл бұрын

@@tboss6689 It will be the UI control board behind the buttons.

@tboss6689 Жыл бұрын

@@WardCo yes i pretty much assumed it . thanks for your great help and knowledge keep up those great videos

@michaelmcgrath405 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your video- very interesting, informative and even fun!- well done! I have a Kenmore with totally different looking door latch switch- and the old switch has been “replaced by” the one you feature. They want almost $400 for a new wiring harness to accommodate this switch! I’d like to determine what wire goes to what terminal and from old to new and save $400 (no new harness). I’d upload the old/different style switch pics if I could. Would you be willing to connect with me on this project? :) thanks

@michaelstevens4428 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to have the 110 on the wax motor backwards. Replaced the latch , lights come on it says sensing ? The color codes on this machine has different colors, maybe I got confused and did it reversed ???

@WardCo 2 жыл бұрын

AC doesn't have a polarity, so you can't connect up the wax motor backward -- but you can make a wiring mistake and not get any power to the wax motor at all! :)

@michaelstevens4428 2 жыл бұрын

@@WardCo Thanks, I did not think so but ? Brand new switch and I thought that the other two plugups were foolproof and only went on in one direction. If it is the motherboard maybe the recycle yard !! I will go back and check the water inlet stuff. All of it is very clean !