WARNING ⚠️ Japanese Pokémon Boxes are Mapped!? Let’s find out

[@deeppocketmonster]

Are there any patterns you can see in those boxes? Watch next: Testing if graded slabs cause damage to sealed packs kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKK2mWVmgNdqftE

[@Forty2k]

Only pattern i saw is that all SR were on the right side of the box. Maybe its a thing?

[@purplegi0n]

You're bad for this hobby, making videos like this for clout 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻

[@dillsimmons]

Every Japanese and Korean box can be weighed, they are very easy to weigh. I don't normally do the insert ones though. Been doing it for years. Before anyone comments mine are always labeled light when selling.

[@Mefr68]

Pat what's your po box address

[@tobydavis5219]

Is it just me or did the first 2 have 15 hits?

[@mcgugs91]

You can absolutely weight any and all Japanese packs from modern era. I have done it for my own self to see because I wanted to make sure I don’t buy from someone scamming me and ya it’s extremely easy to weight them so PSA do not buy single Japanese packs from eBay please don’t you will get light packs!

[@twothirtytwo232]

I sell loose packs on eBay and I would never recommend anyone buy loose Japanese packs from any source.

[@notryan2496]

I have one source on Amazon that I buy japanese packs loose from because I always get hits, I'm afraid to buy anywhere else

[@Bad888Max]

only detective pikachu promo packs because of all holos :D

[@akueret]

I find it weird how Japanese packs no longer contain card inserts that prevented this weighing situation. I know people got around it but at least it made things a bit more difficult. Now it turned into a free-for-all. Also, Pat. Don't lie. We all know you just wanted to open more of this awesome set! Lmao.

[@deeppocketmonster]

Haha, it was a double duty video - reveal the truth and open more of a fun set! 😁

[@justtwobrotherspokemon]

The answer is Japanese cards didn't really start to be faked until recently I started with Japanese after my vintage days and when I started just about a year ago boxes were going for 50$ plus 24-30$ shipping and you never had to worry because it came directly from Osaka from a reputable distributor

[@purplegi0n]

The Japanese market it totally different to the international 1

[@miken8889]

those code cards did nothing to help

[@SoftBreadSoft]

Because they made cards have variable weight instead

[@mcbswfl]

I just got back into Pokemon cards after about 25 years away from it. Its absolutely insane how dark the underbelly of this hobby can get. As far as people scalping, stealing etc..

[@TheMirrorYouDeserve]

yes it takes away a lot of fun just because you always have to look behind the offer and hopefully it will be a sealed original product without scalping or manipulation through weighing etc. :(

[@eightcoins4401]

They also busted a tcg store selling Pokemon cards because it sold fordged cars last year. I think it was in Tokyo? It literally was run by Yakuza too.

[@greaterglider]

yea just buy the official stuff and dont worry about the other stuff

[@FahimPlayz]

@@eightcoins4401 damn thats crazy i would love a behind the scenes of that even yakuza abusing the love of the hobby

[@Sneedmeister]

why is this surprising to you? every collectible hobby is full of scammers selling bullshit to make a buck. its the duty of every individual collector to be diligent and only purchase from verified and trusted sellers. scammers like this couldn't exist if people wouldn't open their wallets before doing research. if you dont get to see the card before buying; its not worth it. this is why i avoid all packs and boxes and only buy singles

[@nevercold808]

This kind of info is greatly appreciated. Scammers already know all the tactics to rip people off. Newer collectors need to educate themselves with this kind of info to protect themselves. Another step beyond what you showed here is that most Japanese boxes usually only have one "special rare" card, whether it be an alt art or rainbow. The scammers weigh the packs, rip the heavies until they pull that one card then they may pepper in one of the leftover heavies per X amount of packs they're selling so they don't blatantly look like they're ripping you off. PSA: If you're going to buy loose packs, make sure it's from a reputable source like a trusted game shop or subscription box. Always safer to save up those extra dollars and just buy a sealed box. Thanks Pat! You always deliver epic content! Both entertaining and educational.

[@tina_marie12]

YESSSS, please weigh evolving skies when it comes out, cause I see people locally selling single packs of English sets and I feel like they could be weighed, even though a green code is heavier than a white code, I still wonder!! Thanks Pat this video was awesome!!

[@DURTCOBAIN77]

I got scammed a lot buying singles, packs were weighted for sure

[@oneseven7307]

I think that only works at japanese sets, what scammers do at ours sets is open a booster box (wich usually has a certain number of hits) and when they take the hits just sell the other packs, so if u buy single packs u still can have a hit but is way difficult because of that.

[@notryan2496]

You can still weigh them I'm pretty sure that the packs that contain full arts are still heavier, could be wrong but.... The way they make the textured cards makes them heavier still, so unless the code cards in those are even lighter they probably weigh a fraction more

[@chiefbig6459]

Can’t weigh. I did a test with my brother. The code cards are weighted to throw it off. One I opened a holo on a “heavy” pack that was 1.5 grams heavier than a rainbow rare. What actually happens is these people buy a couple booster boxes. They grab a random pack and open until they hit the rainbow or full art trainer. Then sell the other 15-20 maybe even 30 packs depending on how “lucky” they are (I say lucky because F*** people selling out their booster boxes knowing the only valuable pull is gone)

[@donoho93]

@@chiefbig6459 u have to determine the variables.they most definately are weighable.heavy is only guaranteed hit in 3 card packs.10 card packs is more tricky. you have to figure it out.

[@jeremiahroush1178]

As always, the transparency and honesty rocks. Thanks for passing on the info and keeping it real.

[@Tora_Dj]

Honestly the realest Pokemon tuber out there! You always ask relative questions and ones which benefit the community. You are always looking out for the smaller guy which is rare for someone as successful as you, we all appreciate you man ❤️

[@nixx5060]

No

[@bubbaisweirdyt]

Realest?

[@hugotsui3009]

unlike other youtubers who just mention what to collect for best investment or how much money made out of selling cards. you are so great to mention the dark side of the hobby. keep up the great job!

[@scorpionsen4302]

I've been getting Japanese Sun and Moon booster boxes for a month or two and completed sm10, sm10b, sm11a with one booster box each! Not including secret rares, I was incredibly surprised

[@poke_wounds9175]

The third box you opened had 2 SR cards which is possible but rare, nice box! Also thanks as always for this information and congrats on the hits.

[@mukkiiii]

Buying in box or on store will be the safest way, if your planning on opening some packs.

[@ihpokemonopenings]

Hey mukKi!

[@mukkiiii]

@@ihpokemonopenings Sup Isaiah !

[@TCGGrading]

Really interesting video to watch. All modern Japanese packs are weighable. There is no need to map this box. Only buy loose packs if you’re doing art sets. Stay safe everyone!

[@absolutal]

Thank you so much for that!! The wife and I are new to the scene but always thought this was something that was do-able. We eventually got a scale because we got screwed here now there. Now we’re only buying Lost origins, silver tempest atm but did notice when ST first came out we weighed every pack in 1 box and they were weighable. I heard they fixed that but who knows for sure.. thanks!!

[@azrakaentertainment3128]

I’ve thought about getting some Japanese boxes to open on my channel! Something about Japanese cards are just so cool to me.

[@ericleef1319]

Thanks for the heads up! I was gonna pull the trigger on some English Pokémon GO loose booster packs. Guess I'll have to stick with the boxes/sets/tins....

[@MidLifeChanger]

Holy cow. Thank you for this information. Ive been thinking of getting specifically eevee heroes packs and am glad i didnt now. Was already cautious about things online and this just shows more why.

[@Amber_Scarlet]

10, 12, and 28 all had hits, but we would need more data to confirm these to be hot spots.

[@matthewthacker3683]

and 5

[@drewnotdoryu]

I'm not going to deny I made a huge mistake with this! I live in Japan and the packs sell like hot cakes so hard to buy anywhere. Found a small shop selling individual packs behind a glass cheaply and thought wow! Bought a bunch of them to find they'd all be duds....I was so disappointed. I thought people that opened the packs only for the rare ones and sold off the dud packs but didn't know it was so easy... :( Now I have a massive ton of singular common cards lol

[@fourzerothree_yt]

This really helped a lot man, thanks! Know I can be more careful when buying singles.

[@CrashHWD]

I haven't collected pokemon cards since the 90s but i still enjoy watching theses vids.. you do it with so much passion and authenticity im glad i found you 😁

[@KingSkullDerek]

Why I personally dont like to buy loose packs.

[@adwe6428]

I watched a couple of your vids, but today you've earned my sub! Your vids deserves bigger ranges! All the best!

[@deeppocketmonster]

Thanks so much!

[@NostalgicNolan]

It didn't show that the box was mapped but it definitely showed that the secret rare comes on the right side of the box and after 18 usually,just what I noticed.

[@kitty_foreststreamvods4116]

also packs 5, 10 and 28 seem to be guaranteed to have a hit

[@Ch4tonBarjot]

With your first method, if we are talking strictly in terms of hit, we would need to open at least 10 Boosters to see if there is any pattern, and the second method of sorting the packets is scary.

[@soserious4738]

Yeah, some vintage sports cards sets you can predict what’s in the box and where by opening the first pack because the sheets were cut and inserted in order. I still remember being excited to see a Duckworth card because that meant Jordan was next in the pack back in like 1989.

[@DOC_951]

If this is true, I’m not buying packs on eBay ever

[@Jtl012]

You should never buy loose packs online anyway *unless* its from a seller that you really trust that has a reputation to uphold.

[@toastyboysgaming8948]

it is. He did it right in front of us. make me wonder about pretty much every other set......

[@phatnat9636]

Ye lol

[@blueyfilmzz]

Werid how I pulled multiple secret rares from lots of single packs I bought off of eBay a few months ago.

[@Jtl012]

@@blueyfilmzz thats awesome and great that you found an honest seller but implying it doesn't happen is foolish.

[@arthurdeclercq4499]

Hello deep pocket monster, but man your vids are so awesome to watch and I enjoyed every second of the vid. Your so good in making vids and talking and making people happy. Keep up the good work!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Jarikraider]

Some random guy with a printing machine: "Okay guys we need to print some common cards and less rare cards." People on the internet:

[@ashjudo]

Amazing video! I always buy sealed boxes never singles but I know people that buy singles and I’m going to share your video with them. Keep them coming!

[@AngelofDeath333]

This popped up on my feed, glad I watched it was very informative and helpful!!

[@27k_starz]

6:50 "this is a hot one!" *says to a child*

[@that_one_bird_that_i_hate]

People gonna start getting weighing scales when they gonna buy Pokémon cards now

[@sparkle1450]

They already have

[@AndrewYT-007]

Thank you Pat for another very informal video! I also hope this brings a lot of awareness to the community so that buyers can be careful. Appreciate you Pat and keep up the great work!

[@mariahplace9632]

Hi

[@tommyboyPR777]

I appreciate all that you do for the hobby I just recently got into it for my grandson I’m also here in Florida so grateful for all the Info you’ve been giving me keep up the great work

[@tombystander]

Thank u for spreading this knowledge; u have been a huge boost to the pokecommunity here on KZbin! 💪

[@galaxy_brain]

The weighting angle has me really concerned for ShortPocketMonster! Look forward to hopefully hearing how the landscape has improved in the past couple years on Sunday's stream :( Code cards sound great for modern sets, but your content really revolves around rare, older sets. Hope you take precautions when shopping, both for your wallet & your enjoyment 🙏

[@alyssab.1327]

Hi, not sure if you've already mentioned it but WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR SHIRT?

[@jaxsonbateman]

I saw some info about this a while ago with Magic cards. At least with Magic, I believe once box patterns had been mapped, those using the system would open a couple of 'reference' packs in order to find out where on the map they were, and once they had established their position they could figure out which of the rest were the high value packs.

[@ayejones32]

Great idea! You should do it with all the sets. 😁

[@MagisterMatt]

Great vid, Pat. So lucky with that Medicham SR. My son just started collecting the Panini Fortnite cards and they're actually pretty cool. Does your son collect cards as well?

[@deeppocketmonster]

He does, he's more of a Gold Card collector versus sets or even specific types of pokemon, which is a pretty cool niche.

[@memeinstein6965]

Pat while modern era English cards are not able to be weighed efficiently, the recent reprint of DAA and VIV for various collection boxes have the code cards rushed and not properly filtered. That means that you can get a UR in green code packs and a regular rare in white code packs. This is not a for sure way of weighing them completely but, allows for about 1/3 URs to weighed out because the heavier green code is in some of the UR packs and the lighter white codes being in some regular rare packs.

[@deeppocketmonster]

Yeah I've seen that in some of the Chilling Reign packs - green code cards, but an ultra still inside. Not sure what to make of that on the Pokemon company's side of things.

[@Rockologist]

I like this video!! Thanks so much Pat! This was informative, but I enjoyed it a ton!

[@fastcontrolps4562]

whats the background song for 14:30, amazing song?

[@Fluse22]

Hey I love your vids but where do you get you’re Pokémon packs?

[@seemagupta4533]

Every BOX has 2 VMAX, 1 Super Rare, 4-5 V's, 7-8 Holo's and rest of them are Common cards.

[@maenic9670]

@8:05 isnt it always 2x Vmax then 3xV and then comes the SR ? I feel like that is a big pattern

[@ultimatum.]

When you can weigh the packs and know heavy packs is 100% hits. Why worry about the pattern? The 15 light packs will always be sold and have 0% hits. The video is quite clear if you watch to the end. The pattern no longer matters with a 5 card pack.

[@hanssantos5440]

Woohoo both of my favourite Pokémon Tubers in one video!😃😃😃

[@86jpw]

There use to be a card shop near me that would weigh packs. They'd opened the packs and sell the cards and keep the lighter packs in the box for sale. They'd also knowing buy stolen cards to. It got out that one of their employees was stealing from kids and selling the cards to the shop and they knew he was doing it. So they shut down to try to avoid being sued.

[@albertusaswin2012]

Pat: "Let's weigh them" *wild Pokemon Unite ad appeared What? 😆

[@caseywinkler850]

The english cards usually have different weighted code cards to make the weights similar, since I didn't see code cards that could be a reason for the weight differences we see

[@caseywinkler850]

I guess a justified use for weighing packs could be for youtubers to sort of stage their videos in an entertaining manner if that makes sense

[@beccaamavi]

The amount of effort Pat dedicates to this channel is amazing, so inspiring! Proud member of DPM

[@gdhfjhj]

Love the feeling of opening packs

[@bodoke8266]

same but now im obsessed

[@dougm2738]

Thanks for letting us know about this issue.

[@Nezpla]

Great video and thank you for the information!! I'm looking to start collecting Japanese cards again and I'm at a complete loss to where I can buy them from a reputable source. Where do you get your boxes from?

[@ongweiyimeridianss1425]

youre vids are like science experiments! it helped a lot thanks

[@Dracorius]

Amazing content bud!!! You are amazing!!

[@rashunadavidson79]

Great video. I just started collecting and this was very helpful.

[@McBudz420]

Just subscribed! Huge collector and always looking for more!

[@b1gd4ddyr3d9]

Definitely good to know. With Rayquaza being my favorite pokemon, I've been thinking of buying some Blue Sky Stream. I've never been into japanese cards so it'll definitely save me some money not getting scammed. Love your vids. Keep it up!

[@ryangeldun]

Wouldn’t you want a large sample size to really test the theory of mappable packs? MTG has a history of mappable boxes in various sets and sometimes the mapping is pretty complex and has multiple variables

[@GoldenBoyTroy]

Thank you for the info! Can't imagine how many people have already been sold light packs...

[@poke_hoard422]

I can tell you for a fact that even today, big sellers will go through and weigh out for personal and sell off the rest. Could be a reason why blisters seem to have more hits? I swear the ones I've been getting from best buy lately are ALL dud packs which caused me to wonder as statistically that shouldn't happen if your opening enough cards

[@jbzookeeper]

Same, someone probably weighing all of them before stocking

[@ryanhoffman3534]

Hey man, idk if you’d even wanna make a video testing it since it would just make more people aware of it. But I think the way that people may be able to find hits is using a small handheld metal detector. You can scan each of the packs and the ones that show up reading more metal will be the better cards. The ones with the absolute most metal would be like that gold and rainbow cards but I think all of the better cards would have more metal than non hits

[@ryanhoffman3534]

At least that may be what ppl do for English packs since you can weigh Japanese packs apparently

[@OriasX]

That speed up sound of opening a pack is so satisfying

[@admirkaralic7209]

Thank you very much for going thru that experience for us, it shines light on a huge issue and therefore we'll have to rely on purchasing from more honest sources going forward.

[@joedirt9650]

Love this. Subscribed

[@Dhilan100]

Now that we know certain boxes have sr and certain boxes don’t I wonder if people are weighing boxes to se which ones have a slight heavier difference.

[@drewnotdoryu]

I think that wouldn't work. I think overall the weight of the box wouldn't change very much by such slight differences

[@TylerxPheonix]

Evolving skies are somewhat mapped energy wise. So if you do an energy break the same energies will appear every box on each side in the same place.

[@Minextube]

It really sux that people open and sell the packs that there's no hits in. Me and my daughter can't afford a full booster box and we buy loose packs instead makes sense now that we pull really bad cards 🙄

[@drewnotdoryu]

I am sorry for you man...I know how you feel I bought a bunch of singular packs and they were all duds... :(

[@bikerscoutproductions1040]

The first video I saw of you wasn’t Pokémon related so I had know idea you were a Pokémon channel

[@darryllimyh]

Love your mystery box videos, can't wait for it to come out!

[@LordDiscord]

I'm taking a guess in that the way scammers weigh packs is That the "good cards, aka the Holos, Vmax" ect weight slightly more than the regular cards. If that is the case, is it not possible to add something to the regular cards that would either make them weigh the same as a holo, or add in a throw off card that weighs more than the holo that can be in every pack that would throw off the scale

[@andrew7955]

The reason there are different code cards is because they each weight differently, throwing off the scales

[@nickh9424]

Just found you! Really enjoy your videos!

[@tylerlucas5269]

I appreciate your channel because you are more informative about how packs are and cards.

[@joerivera4853]

I do have a question, I've opened many Japanese packs and each pack that I opened has had a card that is not really a code card but somewhat of an advertise. They have numbers, for instance, boxes of s6a had numbers 1 thru 10. But your opening of Blue Sky had none whatsoever. Strange?

[@Hawktuah572]

Omg I love the vids keep up the great work!!

[@Nav_mango]

OMG this vid was awesome keep up the great work!

[@albertopena80]

You know you can just shine a flashlight on the pack to see whats inside. All SR/UR/HR cards are on the fourth slot. You should try it. the packs are see-through for this set.

[@Legnish]

i am no professional, but there is a pattern of distrubution. Every box had one SR and two VMAX cards, as well as 4-5 V cards. As a scammer i would sell the rest when i hit 1 SR and best in case both VMAX. every box out of the three had their SR in the right side, but well the probability for this is about 25%.

[@tytonic6410]

As someone who opens for myself and breaks Japanese Booster boxes all of the time. (100+ Shiny star V) (dozens of each of the last couple of sets like Eevee heroes) There is definitely no mapping of boxes I get Secret Rares in all sorts of places within the box and the hit range is always very different, (in placement). Japanese packs are very very weighable as you confirmed SR and Vmax are easily heavier cards and can easily be determined so only buy loose packs from trusted sellers. Great Video as always Pat :D

[@pokebarn1]

Dang! Righteous video Pat!

[@finalfantasycardhunt6980]

Great video, Pat. It's really got me thinking about the Final Fantasy TCG packs I open. There's a foil in every pack so individual packs are probably similar weights, but as there are 1 or 2 full art packs in a 36 pack booster box, can those specific packs be identified? It usually uses a plain foil rather than having a holo pattern, so does that have a weight bearing? You've got me thinking about it... but i'm guessing they'll all be too similar to tell.

[@SpankoDEX]

The mapping happens in cases! So if 1 box in a case has hit every 3rd pack lets say on one side, every box in the same case will have that pattern Random boxes from different cases won't have the same hits pattern! Weighing will work on Japanese packs but seems not to work on the North America side!

[@crazyaggro4476]

honestly putting code cards in the packs at random would probably stop this whole weighing thing all together but im new to the pack opening scene so ther might be a reason they dont do that i have no idea

[@666shuck]

BTW Pat i found you can Weigh modern sets i did a test run of this on Chilling Reign case i found if you know what weight your looking for you can hit about 90% of the time the only cards i could not 100% map was the SR or ult art its weight can very alot from lightest to mid range and was not found often in the heaviest packs i always suggest buying sealed be it single blister or 3 packs.

[@Marshall_Weber]

Awesome Video as Always!!

[@Pygmyer]

How much did the packs in the different categories weigh?

[@coltoncollects290]

Nice Video! 👍

[@ichigostar56]

Wait till you get all the newer boxes after like a week after a new box comes at any poke center, they are stacked and worth more usd than the same card in American letters because it’s from a different continent,in Japan American ones are rarer.

[@TheMuvbuf]

Now I can appreciate the genius of having non-holo gold star cards! Great stuff as always

[@johnnygz823]

Wow that’s crazy thank you for showing this 💯

[@shroom1354]

I LOVE your Snom skateboard! He is my favorite pokemon, he is just so cute! 🥰❤

[@gergelyjoo9491]

so good when a streamer says "while i open this box i wanna tell you about" and not continue with sponsor but next video promo:D

[@Veilspire]

Thank you for such an in-depth video! I opted for a Japanese fusion strike box recently, have yet to open.

[@garciaivann]

Thank you for the transparency 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@Feljo]

I was in Japan a couple months ago and went to buy some card packs(no pokemon) the store clerk opened a new box and the first thing he did was to shuffle all the packs before letting me pick them.

[@whitehat601]

What's the brand and model of the scale you use?

[@sitha4441]

Vmax cards tend to be sorted pretty close to one another and also the stack that the Vmax containing packs also contained a full art card pack as well in 2/3 boxes you opened. Also the Holos seem to sort together as well, so if you have a lot of holos in the stack, you likely won't get a Vmax or a full art card pack in that stack.

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