WARSHIPS AT PORTSMOUTH NAVAL BASE HOME FOR CHRISTMAS - 31st December 2019

[@2010kb1]

As an American, glad to see Britain building there naval forces back up.

[@WarshipTV]

Thanks! :-)

[@rb716]

🇺🇸🇬🇧

[@sbuser4208]

their*

[@tate7968]

Britain has always had the best navy, wys

[@sbuser4208]

@@tate7968 what? :) Not quite, but respect!

[@niagarascenes]

Nice look at the new carriers, a nice addition to the fleet. Thanks for the video.

[@WarshipTV]

Thanks!! :-) I really like the look of HMS Queen Elizabeth & HMS Prince of Wales, my only regret is I just wish one had been named 'Ark Royal!' I do feel though we were wrong to sell HMS Ocean, and should have kept Illustrious too! Thanks again.

[@blech71]

Sexy sexy! Type-45 and the new Prince next to the Queen! Absolutely beautiful! We are proud to have your back as you have ours!

[@davidwilliams8405]

Awesome y'all, so very glad we can serve together to keep the peace. When I served we had several opportunities to work together:1991 during Desert Storm the HMS Gloucester saved our bacon by shooting down a Chinese made Silkworm missile fired at us by Sadam Insane.

[@granskare]

in Istanbul, 1958, I visited HMS Eagle (1951 build), and where on US navy ships, the urns were filled with coffee, the Eagle urns with filled with tea, with cream within. I still write with him to this day in 2020.

[@morgangrey4020]

Hey we have Tea too.....but it's Iced Sweet Tea..lol

[@lancersharpe]

Need many more ships, half the surface fleet is needed to escort these beautiful carriers.

[@zrepeels]

Couldn't agree more. The new decade will expose the RN badly. Even the present new build programme is way too slow. We also need to address the present manpower shortage with better pay and conditions. You don't get world class defence on the cheap.

[@johnholt9399]

Reduce foreign aid

[@SuperOnion88]

@@johnholt9399 Exactly. The £15bn pa currently wasted on DFID could be repurposed for a ten year £150bn investment in the RN. The payoff in terms of global influence would be vastly greater.

[@johnholt9399]

And make jobs building and crewing the new ships

[@Highway123456789]

Agree. But the main threat to the Carriers are Subs. And we have some Wicked Hunter Killer subs that are likely to be with her too.

[@petergriffiths3516]

Putting the UK's navy back on the world stage.

[@brian.7966]

oh, stop it. cardboard cutouts that's all.

[@romeo9017]

Very droll - a shame some of them are broken and also they have enough crews - even the QE and POW are using Army Reservists...

[@Sgianachlais]

It will take a very long time and a huge amount of money to put the Royal Navy back on the world stage. We can't even put aircraft on the carriers! And I am an ex-submariner it saddens me to see the state of the RN just now.

[@petergriffiths3516]

Sgianachlais well it's a start. My father was an AB back in the 1930's served on HMS Repulse HMS Royal Sovereign. That's when we were the worlds most powerful navy.

[@Sgianachlais]

@@petergriffiths3516 There's a coincidence! Your father served on the Battlecruiser Repulse, I served on the nuclear submarine Repulse in the early 80's! Small world.

[@Brix_H]

I was at Portsmouth Historic Dock a week before Christmas and Prince of Wales and Queen Elizabeth were there. Beautiful.

[@phillipainsworth5455]

I do agree we need more ships planes and a bigger army

[@johnbettano6026]

Not sure you could man them seems the UK is being taken over.

[@phillipainsworth5455]

CAG Hotshot not sure what your talking about but tell me more

[@heathcliff3873]

Part of the navy is obsolete and need to be replaced. Why is the british navy so obsolete?

[@canzuk6621]

@@heathcliff3873 "Part of the navy is obsolete and need to be replaced" The Royal Navy is one of the most up to date Navies that exists, in fact there is debate that the UK does not keep its ships long enough before selling or scrapping them to save costs. Unless you are referring to HMS Victory...

[@DaveSCameron]

For what?

[@johnholt9399]

Largest warships ever built outside of the USA I believe, saw them from Gosport just before Christmas are totally awesome

[@4evaavfc]

Second largest aircraft carriers, anyway. Some countries' battleships were heavier, but only cause of armour belts.

[@johnholt9399]

Not a big issue, but I assume you have in mind IJN Yamato and Musashi which by all the figures on Wiki, admittedly not the most reliable source, the QEs have greater displacement. Certainly IJN Shinano the third sister and converted aircraft carrier is clearly smaller which is probably the best comparison so it is a least arguable.

[@ingurlund9657]

@@johnholt9399 We always see a figure of 65,000 tons for the carriers but is that empty or laden? Laden Yamato was 72,000.

[@johnholt9399]

Ingur I think Wiki quotes 65,000 as unladen, when you google it there is a letter from MOD refusing to quote a definitive laden weight in reply to an FOI request - might be linked to security - but saying upwards of 70,000. So happy to agree are the largest i.e length, height, beam warships ever built outside USA, but as you say not necessarily the heaviest as the armour on the Yamato’s probably made them heavier. I must confess when I made the statement I checked IJN Shinano as I knew she was the biggest aircraft carrier ever built outside of USA, but didn’t think about the additional weight of the Yamato/Musashi armour so your point is very well made. However with British bias/pride I maintain that if QE were moored next to Yamato she would look larger in all dimensions.

[@mississippirebel1409]

The US Nimitz Class carriers displacement is over 100,000 tons and the newer Ford Class carriers are around 102,000 tons! So they are MUCH larger than any battleship ever built.

[@TheSpongebob74]

Only second in size to US carriers !! Christ they are huge❤

[@Chickenworm9394]

@Arsene Who? Still using ski-jump ramps and without arrest cables why?

[@BritishFreedom]

A Carrier is only as good as the Jets it carries. If thee F35 is the best Jet in the World, then the UK Carriers are the most lethal in the World.

[@moonbatxray]

We had a port call there in 1982 very impressive base .

[@NickNZ]

HMS Scaffolding in the background

[@chrisstrouther8976]

British and proud 👌👌👌👌

[@Moltenbramley]

Oh be quiet you chav

[@TheMacdaddy1976]

i. rob I can answer for justsaying they are proud of all the freedom this nation affords but most proud of the generous welfare benefits they collect on a weekly basis ...

[@MajorRoadAhead]

In the 1960's the Royal Navy had 7 carriers; Ark Royal, Eagle, Victorious, Centaur, Hermes, Bulwark and the Albion. The last two were converted into helicopter carriers. I served on the Centaur for over 2 years. Instead of building 2 carriers of about 64,000 tons I think it would make more sense to have built 3 carriers of about 45,000 tons each. This way the navy could rotate the ships in the traditional fashion by having one in refit (major or minor refit) a second in commission and maybe the third in reserve. Rotate all 3 of them every 4-5 years.

[@domjohnson9188]

very true and then we cold maybe declare war on France

[@AaronTheHumanist]

Great sight always, done that harbour tour a number of times. Not ever done the Plymouth one though, presume they have similar? If you ever get the chance, would like to see that video if you do one? Thanks.

[@simonbird1973]

Aaron the Humanist They sure do, just search for it on KZbin 👍

[@TheSmittenman]

@@simonbird1973 Is there anything worth seeing at plymouth though, i always assumed it was just left-overs from Portsmouth based there :)

[@TheSmittenman]

If you watch this vid Aaron i think the length of vid, and the amount of time spent showing F78 shows that the sooner this new government makes Portsmouth the main base the better. Devonport seems like a backwater being supplied with a few ships to keep the locals quiet to me :( The appartments at 1:45 look nice though, probably worth a few quid :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYqym5WcltyenKs

[@simonbird1973]

phil smit Devonport Royal Dockyard is the largest naval base in Western Europe. Plenty of leftovers to see 😂👍

[@TheSmittenman]

@@simonbird1973 Not from what i see in the video i already posted. I think you need to get real mate and accept that Portsmouth is where it is at, as it always has been :)

[@shiver_me_timbers]

Seeing those mamma pappas together fills me we pride. What a site!

[@jester5ify]

Building??

[@shiver_me_timbers]

@@jester5ify Not buildings just ships. I think something got lost in translation!

[@sbuser4208]

What a beautiful ship!

[@TonyWilliampianoman]

Spectacularly impressive, but more highly flexible smaller warships needed. We cannot take for granted we will not have to act unilaterally again, and how soon.

[@TT-hd3zi]

You’re talking about the type 31.

[@johnholt9399]

Yes as I said largest warships ever built outside of the USA

[@DaveSCameron]

Our nan served tea to The Queen as she launched HMS ARK ROYAL at Cammell Laird Birkenhead.

[@WarshipTV]

Was that Ark Royal IV R09? Wasn't she launched by the late HM Queen Elizabeth (Queen Mother)?

[@DaveSCameron]

@@WarshipTV I checked the dates and at 1950 it must have been Queen Mother. She was manager of Birkenhead Masonic Temple and devout Catholic. A real saint. We have a paternal grandfather who died aboard HMS CELENDINE on a Russian convoy on the main cenotaph too. How could one come from such a shipbuilding town and not have some connection. Thanks again for your channel.

[@DaveSCameron]

Actually just watched a doc on the 1950 launch and states H.M. The Queen at Cammell Laird Birkenhead. Any clarification? Thanks

[@DalekKhan]

@@DaveSCameron A late reply so I guess you already know by now that indeed the Queen mother was married to King George V1, so she would have been known as the Queen.

[@DaveSCameron]

@@DalekKhan hey yes and it far from detracts from the welcome your reply recieved, many thanks 😊

[@Chickenworm9394]

Look at the cool mast of Daring Class destroyers

[@frankthompson6503]

Portsmouth naval base works from old traditional naval base. Modern technology seeks out to destroy vessels tied up like geese

[@JD-rx1ui]

Back home to be armed...heavily.

[@jeffiles7953]

We need 4 more type 45 and lots of type 26.

[@robw3027]

At the least. Plus keeping the Type 23's in service longer if possible., Add in dropping female personal on combat ships and money spent to accommodate such nonsense.

[@henryvagincourt]

@@robw3027 + Logic of "dropping" females serving on warships, given the Navy is short of man/women power already? WREN's weren't at sea in my day, but the girl's to a fine job now, they always did.

[@robw3027]

@@henryvagincourt Disagree completely. Firstly female personnel on combat ships not in keeping with the traditions of the service- very important. The navy is of course the senior service, traditions are a cornerstone of it and the military overall. Women and children are IMO what men are fighting to keep safe. If numbers are short- bring back a version of national service. Women on these vessels will I suspect be carried along until action- casualties, personnel missing arms and legs, disfigurement. I pray this does not happen but the military by it's nature must be prepared to fight. Fight and win. General statement about service in a country's military- it is not a right, it's a privilege.

[@lancersharpe]

The Japanese have got it right now 42 Destroyers/Frigate/Corvette!

[@JB17521or]

The answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything.

[@paulwillson8887]

Great view of the modern RN>BZ

[@simonworthington-eyre3525]

Great footage, thankyou!!

[@pauljones8149]

Good video !!

[@elifoust7664]

Remember the visit to Pensacola ,fl.NAS...HMS HERMES 1982 AFTER FALKLANDS.

[@mrp410]

what this video doesn't tell us, is that this is it! That's the whole navy right there pretty much! :-p

All our warships in one harbour, are they nuts?

[@TheFreshman321]

Availability of ships is an issues. However, the Treasury should ask hard questions - why the Navy wants more escorts while they have Ship laid up doing sweet FA. The Navy is recruiting better than the other services so manpower is not main reason.

[@kevinfoster926]

Is this filmed from the Gosport ferry or a fanny boat?

[@canzuk6621]

Neither, that tourist boat.

[@randycheow4268]

Should have built more carriers like they did during WW2

[@JB17521or]

Man that was in a freakin world war haha you cant compare that with today

[@4evaavfc]

Need more frigates and mine sweepers.

[@dc-4ever201]

I read an article a little while ago they are in the process of designing a combined replacement for our ancient minesweepers, survey vessels. The new ones will use autonomous drones to do the job of separate vessels and will be well armed and capable of supporting the fleet. Hopefully this will start when the Forth class are completed.

[@canzuk6621]

@@dc-4ever201 "ancient minesweepers, survey vessels" What? The Hunt Class are the oldest from the mid 80s. The Sandown class are from the late 90s to early 2000s, and the Survey ships are from mid 2000s.

[@dc-4ever201]

By today's standards they are ancient, they were designed about 5-10 years before construction and their systems will be significantly outdated. Hell they sold off HMS Ocean and she was only commissioned in 1998-99. In 20 years there have been tons of technological advances especially in the use of unmanned vehicles. They badly need to combine the two types of vessel to save money and reduce crew costs, our Navy is much smaller, but hopefully with vessels now slated to last around 40-50 years, they can afford more over time and being out of the EU means they can also pay some of that cash to the forces.

[@gregbolitho9775]

nice, i'd love a wander round one of carriers, although knowin my luck, i get lost! theres a story i remember, a fella worked up the pointy end, an his bother worked up the other end, an it was 2 years before they saw each other, an it was in their parents house.

[@rivco5008]

Is Britain going to increase the size of its navy? The new carriers are impressive but will the RN grow in size, such that the carriers have adequate escort AND the RN can reestablish itself at least in the Atlantic and Mediterranean?

[@maxpower1550]

It depends how much Britain are willing to spend. Currently 13 frigates are on order 8 type 26 and 5 type 31, but they're replacing the 13 current ones. We just have to spend more, if we do, then the RN will

[@jesuswasasausage9262]

Why does it need to establish itself in either of those areas? Use your inadequate yank brain.

[@rivco5008]

@@jesuswasasausage9262 You live on an island snotty...

[@rivco5008]

@obrbob194 Yes. Traveling to America. An ally nation. In peacetime. No Russian subs waiting at various places along the way with advanced homing torpedoes. No long-range Tupelov's with long-range cruise missiles looking for it. Fucking idiot.

[@ingurlund9657]

@@rivco5008 Apologies for the rude twats. No the navy won't grow. The people who rule us wouldn't like that. We need money for another 5 million immigrants like we've had in the last 20 years... otherwise we "can't survive."

[@adamparker5215]

fab video

[@WarshipTV]

Thanks :-)

[@richardbourne6743]

🇬🇧 We are getting there.

[@artofabandon2337]

when can we see J22 aerobatic team

[@louismigliaccio8810]

I look at video 3 times still didn’t see any security personal ( Royal Marines) on board ships walking patrols or that on docks just 3 security boats near carriers

[@WarshipTV]

Try again my friend! When I filmed it, there was TWO MOD Police boats permenantly stationed off the carriers, the carriers have their own security area sectioned off in the base as well as Portsmouth's own MOD Police, Military Police, RM and RN personnel within the ships / base as well.

[@logtothebase2]

The turret in HMS kent is huge.

[@JB17521or]

Haha

[@JB17521or]

20 inch caliber for sure

[@jimdonovan9756]

If the whole of the Royal Navy is a home on the Dock in the yard, who's at sea ?

[@oliver8928]

Does this look like the whole Royal Navy to you? Spare a thought for those on the tiran straits patrol, fleet ready escort, falklands station etc.

[@jhaievincentsavage9976]

excactly,, so our enemeys can blow them all up together ,, very intelligent royal navy

[@garethhawcroft3331]

There is more than one naval base in the UK Devonport still has their flotilla as well. And many of these ships have just come back from deployments and were home for Christmas.

[@ScienceChap]

Wow. Give the people who work aboard a break. Ships do not spend all of their time at sea. They come home for Christmas, maintenance, to give the crew R&R. They only go to sea en mass when there is a war. You might otherwise ask why you have weekends or days off here and there... maybe a holiday? There are ships at sea. Just not all of them at once.

[@ScienceChap]

@@jhaievincentsavage9976 ...says the armchair Admiral.

[@davehodges6258]

Thank you for the great tour, What is the name of the ship at 10:52"?looks a supply type ship! Any ideas,?

[@davehodges6258]

@@bartley7953 Thank you for the reply, .

[@thepymes]

The far more interesting ship is at 11:10. Google it. ;0)

[@banther11]

@@thepymes sneaky beaky boat. 😉

[@davidgillettuk9638]

Of course the guys and gals deserve and need a break, but finish off your mince pies and go out and stop the buggers nicking our fish 😀

[@TheSmittenman]

Do you think showing the same ships on your way back will fool us into thinking we have twice as many ships as we really do? As they will all be needed to support one carrier, what will the other one be doing (apart from waiting to gets its aircraft) when the first one is off fighting an American war?

[@MC-nb6jx]

phil smit .... How do you think they were trying to fool you when they were naming the boats??🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Ukfairgrounds]

No lol he’s just showing you the ships again you can Clearly see him naming the ships again with the same name

[@bullettube9863]

Great video, England has a carrier force once again! Now I'm wondering, how many of those "dragon ships" does England plan on building?

[@masterofpuppets7295]

Only 6 and they are all built

[@bullettube9863]

@@masterofpuppets7295 Just Six? That's not even a squadron!

[@WarshipTV]

12 were planned, reduced to 8 then 6. One T45 is used at Portsmouth for training and one is currently (and well publicised by the media) protecting British merchant shipping in the Straits of Homouz.

[@bullettube9863]

@@WarshipTV Yes, I read about the Defender, rather appropriate name I think. So, only 6 of the original 12, okay, thanks for the info.

[@garwhittaker3743]

They are on building 8 Type26 and 5 Type 31s .

[@skilso]

F78 has added a greenhouse to grow tomatoes for the officers mess.

[@kevinvojta692]

That's a Cutie little Carrier !!!

[@JB17521or]

*little* 🙈

[@kevinvojta692]

@@JB17521or CV-67 1981-1984.

[@Ukfairgrounds]

It’s classed a Supercarrier it’s the Second best in the World behide the usa Ford class no Chinese Russian French or anyone else has a better Aircraft carrier

[@geoffburrill9850]

Can someone tell me why all these ships are in port and not protecting British shipping?

[@dx030496]

Because we will have plenty of others doing that. Ships will be at port refueling restocking and these will most likely be some of the ships put in place to defend the new carriers when they go in to service

[@ScienceChap]

And its Christmas / new year when this was filmed. Give the people aboard a break... everyone has to have some leave sometimes...

[@WarshipTV]

It was Christmas and other ships were defending British coastline and shipping.

[@artofabandon2337]

HMS Awesome 2022

[@frankthompson6503]

Remember peril harbour

[@tommiterava5955]

The Royal Navy needs more Type 45s and Type 26s. Too many ships of the existing escort fleet will be needed to escort the carriers. And why can't the RN have some kind of low-end corvettes to patrol the home waters so that more destroyers and frigates could be deployed around the world to maintain peace and security on the worldwide shipping routes.Britannia rules the waves! Best wishes and greetings from Finland.

[@screampunk1178]

That's what the type 31e are for

[@tommiterava5955]

@Screampunk11 Yeah,.. but correct me if I'm wrong: the RN will get only 8 Type 26s and the rest of the new frigates will be Type 31s which are obviously less capable than the T26s. Therefore the fleet will consist of only ~14 high-end surface combat ships (6x T45 + 8x T26). My "Dream Fleet" would be 4x ICBM subs (Vanguard-class -> Dreadnought-class) 8x Astute-class attack subs 2x QE-class carriers 12x T45 destroyers 12x T26 frigates + a fair amount of River-class patrol ships + enough Tide-class tankers In addition I think that the RN should build a couple of landing helicopter docks, such as the Australian Canberra-class LHDs, to complement the expeditionary/amphibious warfare capabilities. Maybe that "dream fleet" is not realistic but I hope the UK could build even a few more surface combat ships. Europe needs more military power to create some counterweight against Russia.

[@mikeyforester6221]

@@tommiterava5955 I agree 100% good news is I think because the Canadian and Australian navies have ordered ships as well means the cost will come down and we might be getting a couple of more, we've nearly got your suggested amount of subs anyway, once astute is finished that is.

[@Pvt_Badger0916]

Right let's but this into perspective.. we the United Kingdom are a island nation we also have islands across the world on the seven seas .. why haven't we got 7fleets ? .. for defence and offensive capabilities. we should have a green water fleet for defence and the blue water navy based around our aircraft carriers or destroyer squadrons for offensive , freedom of navigation , anti piracy humanitarian relief missions

[@oliver8928]

Where would you get the money from? Cut the social sector more? The fleet we have is about the right size, we just need to even out the proportions; 12 Type 26 and 10 Type 31 frigates would be perfect, and maybe 3 more Astute attack submarines. That might be achievable with some careful management.

[@Pvt_Badger0916]

@@oliver8928 do you really have any idea how much the British economy makes every year ? And what we should cut is foreign aid which is £14 billion a year aswell as cut off aid to countries that hate us and or are richer then us like India which on average we give them £350 million a year and have done since 1947

[@MC-nb6jx]

Jamraptor .... Simple, cut Foreign Aid that goes into corrupt hands 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️👍🏻👍🏻

[@oliver8928]

Yes the foreign aid budget needs overhaul, but its critical that we support close allies such as India and do what we can to eradicate poverty and disease so countries can develop sustainably and without the enormous population growth that is the root of the problems with all out overseas interests. An example of redistribution would be a shift towards bottom-up local-driven aid cutting out currupt governments, or the continuation of the UKAID ship class to provide direct aid. It's also a pretty critical aspect of soft power and a form of deterrent.

[@oliver8928]

@pbr streetgang The Indian space program is a strange one, but I'm not talking about eradicating poverty in india. They are a long way down the industrialisation route, I'm talking about the very poorest countries. It is our duty, we the British, to do what we can. Say what you will, but that is the will of the British people and a testament to our national character.

[@robertwalker9945]

Make big targets hope they have a good defence plan nothing will stop hypersonic missile like ermmmm? Good luck.

[@WarshipTV]

That could be said for any naval base in any country around the world.

[@johnbettano6026]

Dose the Royal Navy still use the bases at Scappa Flow?

[@henryvagincourt]

John Bettano + No, it's not used as a Naval base now.

[@johnbettano6026]

@@henryvagincourt wonder why didn't they have good set up there?

[@mikeyforester6221]

@@johnbettano6026 one word m8, money.

[@JB17521or]

It was only in use to prevent mainly the german navy of leaving the north sea, primatily in ww1 but also ww2. You can say there were two large fleets, the channel force, defending the channel. And of course the mighty home fleet at scappa flow.

[@frankthompson6503]

To close together in the event of hostilities big Target

[@johnfirth6809]

Well at least our enemies know where all our eggs are!!! Pearl Harbour? No couldn’t be even our aircraft carrier are there. We should be using more ports.

[@spudspam5723]

That’s not the whole fleet, there is still ships deployed and ships at other ports

[@javierlav]

I hope you can print all the poinds possible to finance all the toys ! Because there are people struggling in the UK as there are in the US

[@mikes7639]

Are the carriers nukes?

[@JB17521or]

You mean nuclear propulsion? No

[@simonbird1973]

The one dislike is obviously a Rusky!! 😂

[@edwinthomas9910]

Oh what did they do to you.

[@lordmalvada8212]

Might be Argie

[@louismigliaccio8810]

One question where is harbor security on ship / land / air

[@ScienceChap]

There were 2 MOD Police boats keeping station alongside the carriers. There are also armed patrols and a Royal Marine detachment around the Dockyard. The ships also have their own armed security aboard at all times. Don't worry about keeping them safe!

[@louismigliaccio8810]

They didn’t look like security police boats no weapons visible also I know each ship has security and guys thanks God Bless the Royal Navy and US Navy

[@MC-nb6jx]

Louis Migliaccio .. Don’t need weapons, they’re all fully trained Ninjas 😉😉

[@louismigliaccio8810]

Lol chop chop

[@WarshipTV]

When I filmed it, there was TWO MOD Police boats permenantly stationed off the carriers, the carriers have their own security area sectioned off in the base as well as Portsmouth's own MOD Police, Military Police, RM and RN personnel within the ships / base as well.

[@frankthompson6503]

Invest in at least four new bases or get caught up in another peril harbour

[@patrickhalsey4000]

Where and what are crews doing

[@TarnishUK]

At home with their families at the time I would imagine, it was Christmas/New Year.

[@simonworthington-eyre3525]

Thankfully spending time with family and friends, ships probably only had skeleton crews!!

[@ScienceChap]

Christmas dinner, probably. They get leave, just like everyone else does.

[@MC-nb6jx]

Patrick Halsey .... Getting a bit of tail in the local hostelries😉😉

[@user-ei3dq2dw6i]

Orgies

[@frankthompson6503]

If l were naval commander l would never have 2 carriers together big Target

[@itzewan526]

Everyone saying we need more ships and bigger army can’t do that until people grow some and register into one of the services doesn’t help the government is making less service personal

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

ItzEwan only when we stop getting sent into pointless wars will people join more.

[@PepRex]

Also the pay is dog shit.

[@itzewan526]

DrumtotheBass Woop fair point

[@itzewan526]

Pep Rex true

[@englishpassport6590]

Do our .... Rural.... Navy remember what a diversion room was and remember it's ultimate purpose - to provide! . Like many other navies they alway's forget their real work in hand and the gobawles go for the febrile and the glamourous ...to our cost! Now we have Brexit and we have to radically recalibrate our remaining resources .....somewhat. We have to reassign like we had to do in 1939 I must say that without a Diversion Rooom we would have lost the war but it is so ordinarily ordinary and so much hard work so it's so easily forgotten .... who wants to go there ;........... and be discarded? But look what it did when we needed it to make something out of nothing.. For instance - an invasion of North Africa at the cost of the sustenance we English did without and you cut it fine didn't you ... It's time you got your arses off the floor and did the right thing by us you identifyu weith royalty instead of us but it is we who pay your wages and fill your belly we demand that you tell them to fak off for good .....and do your job.. So we can get back to .... BUSINESS!

[@johnbettano6026]

Can they afford to paint them new Destroyer's. While being idele paint them

[@morriganravenchild6613]

Not enough - more DD/FF needed.

[@ThePalaeontologist]

Are you aware of the upcoming Type 26 and Type 31e Frigates? While it still annoys me how we only have 6 Destroyers, due to dreadful defence cuts during the development of the Type 45's, at least we can safely say that the Type 23's will have a powerful successor in the Type 26. I'm still not convinced by the Type 31e, though appreciate that it is meant to represent the ''low'' part of a ''High-Low'' strategy. The Type 31e's are basically going to be more of a general purpose workhorse escort frigate with far more basic systems and equipment etc. A cheaper alternative for more ''mundane'' tasks. While I do get the idea of freeing up the beefier, major surface combatants for carrier strike group duties and other more important work, I personally think they should just stick to either a single class (for various practical reasons e.g. limited scale mass production of one design allowing all maintenance to be standardised across a single class, simplifying the RN's frigate maintenance e.g. in terms of spare parts and familiarity with one design etc)... ...or...it should go for a ''High-Medium'' (rather than ''High-Low'') strategy. In other words, if needing two classes of frigates, to make the less powerful class more of a standard and pretty beefy ship. Not saying the Type 31e Arrowhead is bad; though it is very outclassed by the T26. T26's are elite high-end ASW prioritising big frigates. The T31e's are more of the estate car compared to the supercar that the T26 metaphorically will be. 8 T26's+5 T31e's planned. Not great, I know, but they'll be very impressive when ready. However, I think the UK needs way, way more naval assets. - 18 Destroyers (even 12 seems a bit gaunt let alone the very overworked 6 T45's we have) - 36 Frigates (if following the ''High-Low'' strategy, then 18 of each in 2 classes; preferably I'd just want 1 class to standardise everything) Well, we can dream...alas, the current climate in our society is very confused and too many folk do not even care about our gallant Royal Navy. General ignorance has stifled everything.

[@morriganravenchild6613]

@@ThePalaeontologist Agree the numbers are dire. Although individual units may look impressive what really matters is the "operational footprint" matching the perceived "operational requirement" as required by tasking taking into account availability.

[@ThePalaeontologist]

@@morriganravenchild6613 Exactly

[@9940r024]

Funny, but I would have thought military leaders might have learned a lesson from pearl harbour !!!

[@Ukfairgrounds]

Where else are ships going to be kept Tesco’s car park 🤣🤣🤣 every country in the world has natal bace,s for there ships

[@willscarlet3620]

All in one place at the same time easy picking for our enemies to attack hope we have enough Sam sites surrounding Portsmouth ! & that history does not repeat it self

[@gazzaboo8461]

We'll be needing these when the EU decides to take liberties thinking we're still under their thumb. I like Belgium, but Brussels.. If that was swallowed whole I wouldn't miss it, especially if the EU was in full session. A corrupt kleptocracy that needs to be dismantled.

[@dirkusmaximus9268]

Time to wargame with some Swedish subs...And know that the nuclear capability subs are the real fist ! Enough carriers in the EU, France, UK ?, Italy, Spain (I think)...and more than enough fighter jets to protect us. We at the continent have no tradition to bring war overseas...

[@canopus101]

Sadly, what strikes me, is how few ships are along side. The other thing is how ugly they are compared to the Leanders, Type 21 and even Type 22 nd Type 23. Progress I suppose...

[@thepymes]

You are aware that 1. There is another naval base which homeports the rest of the surface fleet plus a third which homeports the submarine fleet and 2. There are always a number of vessels in the basins which are hard to see from the harbour cruise?

[@canopus101]

@@thepymes Yes I am aware, but it does not alter the fact that we have a teeny weeny fleet compared with that of the early 1970's.

[@williambroadstreet3353]

It is criminal what both sides of politics have done to the RN. Although a conservative I heavily lay the blame at David Cameron's feet, he did inherit a mess from Brown and Blair but his defence paper has had such a disastrous effect on the RN is it incalculable. 'Buying two giant 60,000 tonne conventional carriers with little effective VLS defensive measures in my view was a waste. Spain, France with CDG which again my view CDG is way more effective than the QU's, she's just come out of a near two year deep refit and is really brand new, even if problems still exist, but a giant conventional carrier for what? If the UK is returning to some role in the south china sea, as it seems she is, not sure how this advances the UK, the bigger problem the RN faces is they do not have CEC. CEC enables, as in Link16 for an analogy, interoperability seamless and instant meshing of the USN's ships and carrier battle groups. Why the UK refuses to buy this is baffling. Trident is a non negotiable, but now you've got that nutjob Nicola whatever threatening closing access in Scotland, a issue for another day. And how the magnificent royal marines were ever even considered as on the table for culling, with their naval assets is just appalling. Under staffed still, beg, borrow and stealing, cannibalising parts, the RN's systemic and endemic probs remain. These carriers have sucked up SO much i terms of the defence budget when Spain and Italy go for carriers at around 35,000 tonnes and still have an air wing. Sure their theatre of operations is different, but they seem to get way more punch for the buck, but no doubt most will disagree with me, whatever, just my opinion. Where the UK 'has' done brilliantly is in winning the Australian Type26/Hunter Class tender. These ships are 8,800 tonnes. They are bigger that the 45's, and they have significant room for growth, the design for the Canadian ship is in my view far inferior to what the RAN is getting, they're getting a schematically designed ship that has I'd argue revolutionised ship building. BAE have a fucking awful history, but on this they've done really solid brilliant work. The RN needs another tanker/refueling/replenishment ship I'd argue, but the RN is simply stretch too thin. Rule Britannia fantasy is gone. The mystery and sense of 'centuries past' drove a lot of the reasoning for the carriers, and one will always need to be in some form of re fit anyway. The STOVL capabilities with a ski jump is another example of one of the single biggest FUBAR own goals I've ever seen, the flat tops and arresting gear enables significantly ore force capability and projection. Many do not realise the loitering time for the STOVL is not that good, you add external with hard point tanks and you lose the stealth aspect. But the calls been made. The RN air arm is back but how effective it'll be is arguable. Again, just my opinion but what a waste, the UK could have gone flat top nuclear and been so much better places. At least the two big positives for me personally is the RM's are now safe, and the UK/RN finally seems to have a rolling/planned/signed contract for a continuous build like Australia, America, and critically China who punch out a frigate a month, their new Type55's are behemoths, a Ticonderoga sized massive ship with 120 VLS. Now if the Defense Sec can just hold the line from the insidious fuckers at the Treasury, and make sure best practice/past disasters are avoided, and leverage as much as possible with the exported Type 26, things will be set up. NZ is also a possible future Type 26 buy, but their hard left WOKE female anti gun PM as with the previous Labour Gov under the slut Helen Clark who in one fell swoop abolished the NZ air force skyhawks, leaving Australia to prop them up, they need to replace their 2 ANZAC class frigates. But they're cheap fuckers, so the UK will REALLY have to do everything and then some to get a hard left anti defence government to buy the Type26 but it is a possibility.

[@jeffreyhughes6244]

We are an Island people and supporters of our European partners......thank God we have a strong government to ensure a strong naval presence in the world.

[@kramotter4863]

We are an island nation, and should look after and protect our island and fishery's. EU should do the same and keep out of our business

[@swiper1818]

There needs to be significantly more investment in all 3 services. This video is actually quite worrying as there are not nearly enough destroyers and frigates to escort the carriers, and the UK should build at least 3 more carriers. Time for Boris to do something positive. The RAF needs many more aircraft, and all 3 services need more personnel

[@mikeyforester6221]

The RAF has 130 Eurofighters and we've ordered around the same number of f35s. we are building more ships, another 8 type 26 and 5 type 31 frigates are being built, we've got four astute class subs and 3 more to finish, 3 Trafalgar class subs still in service, four vanguard trident missile subs with 4 dreadnought class planned for 2028 and beyond. We are getting there it just takes a while you've got to remember building these things is expensive and time consuming, we're going through a refit what started in the late 90s but where well on our way now.

[@ImJeremybear]

Pretty boats in a row doing nothing while Australia burns!!!

[@ImJeremybear]

On 12 November 2019, catastrophic fire danger was declared in the Greater Sydney region for the first time since the introduction of this level in 2009. According to Australian fire fighters, they are ill equipped and undermanned, and the Australian Government has called for more civilian volunteers. There are hundreds of miles of coastal areas under threat or are already ablaze so If the UK had offered or even diverted resources to help with evacuations and humanitarian aid post haste assets may have arrived or may be well on the way to aiding in this catastrophe bearing in mind that the fire season is far from over. If you think that any aid that we may have been able to render would have been totally useless then it seems you are in agreement with the government who prefer the navy to be at home enjoying Christmas.

[@PompeyMatt17]

what are they supposed to do about it exactly?

[@AndreiTupolev]

what on earth do you expect them to be able to do 10,000 miles away? The Royal Australian Navy is rather better situated to be able to do something

[@PompeyMatt17]

Australia has a very capable Navy of 14,000 personnel, has an Army Force of some 30,000 Regular serving personnel and Special Forces...but yes I'm sure a Type 45 crewed by 190 men and women with buckets will make a huge impact.

[@romeo9017]

And 40 redundant ex MOD water cannon lying festering in a field in Lincolnshire...

[@ronzomac6246]

I was based here on HMS INTREPID 1985/1990 and this was the way pompey always looked. Ships and matelots everywhere. These days your lucky if you are 3 ships in port. These are only their as the ships company's are on Xmas leave. FUCKING POLITICIANS, have made the Royal Navy ineffective now. If Argentina are to invade the Falklands, we couldn't do anything about it. We need another six/eight type 45s and about twenty type 26s. The type 31e could be used for home/European waters and about twelve/fifteen of them. We also need another eight/ten Hunter killer subs. We could do it if we didn't give money to India to send shite into space and the biggest joke is that China buys our debt bonds, ie, lends us money and the wanker politicians give it back as aid grants, ie, millions of pounds. No wonder there laughing at us. Get out of Europe, build up our armed forces and tell every cunt to piss off. China subsides it's industries while we in the West stick to the bullshit, NO GOVERNMENT SUPPORT, legislation. That's why we can't even build our own ships anymore (military only) or even make a locomotive. Sad times but we will rise again as a nation if we can get rid of these bastard liberals who say we are all lazy,racist, nationalist scum. AND WHAT THE FUCK IS SO WRONG IN BEING PROUD OF YOUR COUNTRY AND BEING A NATIONALIST. These bastards would have have the world come to this tiny island, to be looked after.

[@AWESTERNWHITEMAN.BOSH.]

Plenty of ships. No fucking crew.

[@JB17521or]

Theres something called christmas. Maybe you have already heard bout it

[@Ukfairgrounds]

There all at the pub lol

[@hoof2001]

Big targets, aren’t they? Just For keeping your followers hated immigrants out Haha

[@damkayaker]

Ugly ships...

[@mikeyforester6221]

Get fucked shit for brains.

[@williamsanders7221]

damkayaker:-- The shape of these ships is a safety feature. It's of the stealth design which gives them a low radar signature. Under attack they fire their decoys which carry a much higher R/S and helps to deflect incoming missiles.

[@Ukfairgrounds]

Royal Navy destroyers are the best looking and most powerful looking ships ever lol

[@robinhinson606]

Warship design is getting really boring now as in HMS Dragon and those two eyesores they call carriers. They scrapped the Ark Royal and Harriers for these two soddin things

[@PompeyMatt17]

Robin....you really think Through Deck Cruisers (technically they weren't carriers) designed in the 1960s could last much longer in modern warfare?.. Invincible Class couldn't have landed an F35 and also the technology required below decks would have meant basically ripping the ship apart and completely refitting it

[@PompeyMatt17]

plus modern ships are designed to NOT be blown out the water by land launched TLAM missiles by some very nasty people. The days of launching a broadside against a bloke waving a cutlass are long gone.

[@antonybonner1258]

Robin I doubt you know much about ship design.. both ships you mention are cutting edge and future proof ship design and in the case of the destroyer class leading

[@TheFreshman321]

Another Daily Mail know it all fuckwitt.