Was Brushy Bill Roberts REALLY Billy the Kid? The Truth Revealed

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The Wild West Extravaganza

The Wild West Extravaganza

2 жыл бұрын

Who was Brushy Bill Roberts? Was he REALLY Billy the Kid?
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@jeffsnelling9964
@jeffsnelling9964 Жыл бұрын
I believe brushy bill accomplished what he wanted. We're still taking about him.
@MelBlossom
@MelBlossom Жыл бұрын
Gotta give it to Brushy for leaving people talking about him. He makes the legend more fun and did create a good lead in to Young Guns 2. I don't think he was Billy but even Billy probably thought he was cool for going for the pardon so he "made him famous" for it.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ccrider3435
@ccrider3435 7 ай бұрын
I keep learning more about Brushy, I want to know more about some of the incredible things Brusky claimed and the dubious things 'The House' have claimed... being as 'history is written by the victors'. All that matters to me is the truth.
@mariemorgan7759
@mariemorgan7759 4 ай бұрын
Anna Anderson did the same thing with claiming to be the Grand Duchess Anastasia Romanov. DNA proved she was not.
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy 2 ай бұрын
Young Guns 2 sucks though. The Brushy tie in to open and close the movie is the only decent part.
@piercemarkt
@piercemarkt 2 жыл бұрын
There's a few different types of liars. If my uncle tells you he caught an 10 pound catfish, it was probably only 8 and 1/2 pounder, but there's still a fish fry this weekend. However, if someone tells you they almost caught a 6 ton catfish no pics, they probably don't even own a fishing pole. Ol Brushy was spinning too much yarn. Sure, I rode with Custer, was Billy the Kid, beat Teddy Roosevelt in a race up San Juan Hill, taught Babe Ruth how to hit a baseball and taught Einstein how to do multiplication tables.
@paraconsistentjojo
@paraconsistentjojo 2 жыл бұрын
I think he shot Lincoln.
@ermano58
@ermano58 Жыл бұрын
Your forgetting he rode with the james gang rode with the dalton gang said he was billy bonney hell i think he was dillinger too LMAO
@KruglugBadax
@KruglugBadax Жыл бұрын
My guy is saying Brushy is Forrest Gump! 😂😂😂
@williamsherman1089
@williamsherman1089 4 ай бұрын
​@@paraconsistentjojoCareful, you might sully ol' Bills legacy!
@rudytexas6825
@rudytexas6825 Жыл бұрын
If you grew up on the frontera we all know Billy lived a long life. You need to interview the old timers on the Mexico border near fabens and San Elizerio it was common knowledge growing up in the area , Billy was a friend of Mexicans and our casa is your casa. Funny how no one interviews people on the other side of the river and they all loved him.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
There's nobody still alive
@rudytexas6825
@rudytexas6825 Жыл бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza right, but they remember what their parents and grandparents would tell them about billy
@rudytexas6825
@rudytexas6825 11 ай бұрын
I'm still sticking with, The answer lies in Mexico
@travisadair728
@travisadair728 Ай бұрын
@@rudytexas6825 Billy may have survived and lived a long life but he wasn't this con man. He survived the killing, then went and rode with Jesse James and his Gang and then went and fought in Cuba with Theodore Roosevelt? Yeah whatever, you should read Peter Pan. It is full of many more truths than this con man's story.
@NoCoverCharge
@NoCoverCharge Ай бұрын
They did go interview them and brushy bill is Billy the kid
@robertwoods3750
@robertwoods3750 Жыл бұрын
brushy missed his calling , he should have been a politician
@harrypothead42024
@harrypothead42024 Жыл бұрын
He should have been a lawyer
@mrbill_oh_no
@mrbill_oh_no Жыл бұрын
hahahah. perfect.
@lockedinstreetracing6005
@lockedinstreetracing6005 Жыл бұрын
Haha 😂he was a sherrif a ruff rider a war hero billy the kid a farmer sounds like he was a good Damm liar.
@Michael_Beanflip
@Michael_Beanflip Жыл бұрын
I bet you're a trump supporter
@reg6947
@reg6947 Жыл бұрын
This guy should be a politician , by the way he lies by omission and uses 'consensus" to fool the morons like you. He literally skipped all proof. All of it.
@terryclevenger6229
@terryclevenger6229 8 ай бұрын
Who was the mortician that got the body ready after Brushy died they should have notes and or pictures of the body maybe check with them
@thesollylama130
@thesollylama130 3 ай бұрын
I got good news and bad news--- I told a lady friend of mine that Brushy Bill wasn't Billy the Kid as she believed because she saw Young Guns II a couple decades ago and never thought to question it. As proof I pointed her to this channel, which she is now subbed to and binging old episodes. On one hand you shattered this poor woman's belief in a cool story from the old west. But on the other hand you gained a new subscriber and fan of the channel.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 3 ай бұрын
Ha! Well, the good news is that often times the truth is more interesting than fiction. Lots of great old west stories out there that really happened!
@user-vk6zl1uj6k
@user-vk6zl1uj6k 4 ай бұрын
My great-great grandfather was 101 in 1950 and he knew Billy and saw him dead. Heard the shots that killed him. Dug his grave and was a pall bearer. He also had worked for John Tunstall. His name was Vicente Otero. He was interviewed about Brushy and called BS. He also said that Pat shot him in the back. Love you content dude.
@user-vk6zl1uj6k
@user-vk6zl1uj6k 4 ай бұрын
I'll send a pic of him. He and a man named Jesus Silva did most of the heavy lifting. Pat was accomanied by two other men that were not aware ofnhis plans. These men are the ones that prompted Billy to entire Pete Maxwell's room and ask his last question. Billy wasn't armed with anything but the knife he was carving beef with. I'll send you the link to his personal account there is an audio file available from the Albuquerque journalist who interviewed him. He was totally blind at 101 but his mind was sharp. He never spoke much english. My mom was about 6 when he passed but he knew all his grandchildren and great grandchildren by voice. He is buried in Los Lunas New Mexico
@southernfury01
@southernfury01 3 ай бұрын
@@user-vk6zl1uj6k hi, can you explain why they described billy as dark skinned with a dark beard?
@user-vk6zl1uj6k
@user-vk6zl1uj6k 2 ай бұрын
@@southernfury01 He was perhaps tanned by the sun but he was not dark. His hair was not blonde or red. It was what we call dirty blonde. Brown mostly but bleached by the sun.
@southernfury01
@southernfury01 2 ай бұрын
@@user-vk6zl1uj6k back in the 70's my stepdad stopped in NM on his way to AZ and he had a chat with a man named Chano Silva who told him the story of Billys death, his story differed from the pat garrett story but he swore it was billy that died and was buried.. my stepdad said he 100% believed the story chano told him
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy 2 ай бұрын
When was he interviewed about Brushy? If he was that closely connected to Billy, would not he have wanted to further the narrative that Billy was dead so that he’d no longer be hunted? Warrants for his arrest were still being issued two years after the shooting. If he helped dig the grave and was a pall bearer, was he one of the four men later interviewed and asked to identify where Billy’s grave was, yet none of the four could agree on the location? If he claims Billy was shot in the back and his two deputies ushered him into Pete Maxwell’s house, this confirms Garrett and his two deputies all lied about the details of the shooting, and still had different lies of their own?
@martymartinez5313
@martymartinez5313 Жыл бұрын
I’m no doctor or anything but, one simple piece of evidence to me proves that Brushy is NOT Billy the kid. If you look at both of their ears they are completely different. Billy had detached ear lobes and Brushy has attached lobes. The ears could be used as a identifiable fingerprint, plus the ears are cartilage and once formed after birth they don’t change form unless they’re mutilated or something. Brushy’s ear lobes look as if they attach to the jawline and Billy’s doesn’t. That’s just my opinion.
@sabineb.5616
@sabineb.5616 Жыл бұрын
I noticed the same thing a while ago! The different ear lobes are a dead give away, and I cannot understand how someone who has looked at both pictures can reach the conclusion that they show the same guy!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
The mind will sometimes trick the eyes into seeing what's not there
@sabineb.5616
@sabineb.5616 Жыл бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza, that's absolutely true. A couple of years ago I found a website which has been created by a guy who is absolutely convinced that Brushy Bill is identical with Billy the Kid - and he is adamant that Brushy Bill's pictures of his younger self totally look like Billy's famous picture 😉 It's stunning how much material this guy and his contributors have unearthed. A lot of this is definitely interesting, and it increases our knowledge of the real Billy's character and also of the historical situation. He managed to convince me that Pat Garrett's version of how he killed Billy, may not be 100 percent true. Garrett tried to come across as brave, but he probably ambushed the Kid - and it's not totally out of the question that he could've made a mistake and killed the wrong man, which would have been a disaster for Pat Garrett. But I can't see how he could have managed to convince everybody who was present in Fort Sumner and who knew Billy very well, to keep quiet. Not everybody who was there that night was Billy's friend. There would have been too many co-conspirators. And Pat Garrett would have been mortally afraid for the rest of his life that the Kid might surface again sooner or later. Some people have speculated that Pat and Billy were in cahoots and that Pat helped Billy to escape and fake his death. Pat Garrett would get fame and reward while Billy could make a fresh start far away from his old hunting grounds. But that doesn't solve the problems with the identification of the body - and Billy and Pat would be cold blooded murderers who conspired to slaughter an innocent man who just by chance looked a bit like Billy! To be fair, Brushy Bill supporters acknowledge that their guy told a lot of lies, and that he shamelessly embellished his biography by inserting himself into many well known historical events. But they fail to see that all these tall tales and outrageous lies are huge red flags which seriously damage Brushy Bill's overall credibiliy. They argue that the lies don't matter because of Brushy's alleged striking similarity with the Kid, his alleged insider's knowledge and the affidavits of a few people who allegedly knew Billy the Kid.
@jackburton4892
@jackburton4892 Жыл бұрын
​@@sabineb.5616 Are these the people that keep telling us about these pictures of Oliver's, Brushy's, (or w/e his name is) wounds that the lawyer who put him up to this has? But we're not allowed to see them?
@matthewwhite3444
@matthewwhite3444 Жыл бұрын
A few years ago I watched a documentary claiming Billy fathered a son with Paulina Maxwell. The child was born after Billy died. The picture of the alleged son was a dead ringer for the photograph of Billy with his guns. The makers of the documentary took a DNA sample from one of the son's descendants. They tested against either Brushy's DNA or someone from his family. Spoiler Alert: it was not a match.
@gregscavuzzo5457
@gregscavuzzo5457 Жыл бұрын
He was Brett Hall's son
@williamavitt8264
@williamavitt8264 10 күн бұрын
That doesn't mean anything because there's no proof Billy was the father of that child. I think Brushy was a con man, but that test isn't a good argument against him
@matthewwhite3444
@matthewwhite3444 10 күн бұрын
@@williamavitt8264 the picture I saw of the alleged son showed a virtual clone of Billy's only known photo.
@williamavitt8264
@williamavitt8264 10 күн бұрын
@matthewwhite3444 ok, that still doesn't mean or prove anything. Maybe that is Billy's son. Who knows? My point is, without being able to PROVE that's Billy's kid, a DNA mismatch doesn't discredit Brushy. There are a lot of lunatics who buy into Brushy even still, despite all the evidence debunking him. Some illegitimate son that can't be proved to be Billy's isn't going to convince them
@kennedymcgovern5413
@kennedymcgovern5413 8 ай бұрын
We do not need Young Guns III. I was a young Sailor, just out of boot camp. I was at my school command, learning what was to be my job in the fleet. The base had a movie theater, so one of my buddies and I went to it. That was when I saw the original Young Guns. My point? That was 1988. Young Guns II a few years later, cool. That was the rare sequel that was as good as the original. But friends, I am now a 53 year old man. Emelio, Kiefer, Lou and even Christian...those guns are no longer young. We do not need a geriatric version of "Young Guns." And the alternative is even worse...using new actors who will absolutely die by comparison. Does no one my age remember what they did to "Red Dawn?" Some things just need to be left alone. I mean, yeah...we all suspended disbelief enough to accept a story where the Navy let Maverick stick around for over 30 years without making Admiral. But admit it, even THAT was tough. Some things just need to be left where they are.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 ай бұрын
Ha, i get it.
@popbattles7855
@popbattles7855 22 күн бұрын
Now they have gone and remade Road House. What the hell were they thinking.
@LauseMarkA
@LauseMarkA 2 жыл бұрын
Great work. Absolutely definitive. I'm stick and tired of people claiming to have been Billy the Kid. I'd never do such a thing. I am, however, the real Brushy Bill Roberts.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 жыл бұрын
Your secret is safe with me, "Mark"
@newcountryguy
@newcountryguy 7 ай бұрын
😂
@Flyfishingguy1994
@Flyfishingguy1994 6 ай бұрын
😂😂
@tamracarroll5780
@tamracarroll5780 9 ай бұрын
I usually HATE these podcasts because folks ramble on and on and actually talk about the subject very little. When I say that I am pleasantly surprised that this one is NOT one of those- I am VERY pleasantly surprised! You sir, are extremely entertaining in content and the way in which you deliver it. I stayed up 3 hours after my bedtime because I wanted to hear the entire Billy the Kid post and actually laughed out loud! I am definitely a history nerd or nut or both and I have just one question for you young man. 😮 WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE?!?!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 9 ай бұрын
Haha, thanks! Early bedtime tonight, though
@OlHustler1969
@OlHustler1969 4 ай бұрын
4 hour vid on this channel last night. Starting this one and sleeping now lol hell of a channel
@ChacoteOutdoorRecreation
@ChacoteOutdoorRecreation Ай бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza Paulita claimed in an interview that she had never dated or been involved with Billy, oddly she had a bullet wound scar to the left side of her abdomen, that some say was the first shot and went through Billy, the remaining four were chest shots as Billy turned, and before daybreak a blood-soaked down filled mattress was burned that came from Paulita’s brother’s bedroom. Jose Jaramillo married Paulita, and she had a reputation, but that bullet scar was the one thing at the center of all their arguments, it was a reminder that he was not the first one to ride that spoiled rich girl. My last issue is this, suppose this happened at your home, would you really shop for and buy a mattress the following day? And why would law enforcement run this errand, a man named Thomas McKinney purchased the new mattress and arranged immediate delivery. No one finds this odd, or the blood-soaked quilt in her hope chest thrown away after her death, believed to be and described as a birthing souvenir. No midwife would leave a mess like that.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Ай бұрын
@@ChacoteOutdoorRecreation Paulita also claimed in an interview that Pat Garrett killed Billy the Kid. Any source on the claim that Paulita had a bullet scar on her abdomen?
@ChacoteOutdoorRecreation
@ChacoteOutdoorRecreation Ай бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza “All of us, men and women that were in Don Jesus Silva's house went toward where we heard the shots. When we got about 50 feet from Don Pedro's room, we heard someone say, “Billy's been killed!” “We arrived at the southside of the room where Don Pedro slept, there was Pat Garrett and two deputies. So were Don Pedro Maxwell, Donna luz, Odila Maxwell, Don Pedro Abreu, Don Pablo Beaubien, and several others that came when they heard Billy had been killed. We were all outside the room where they said that Billy had gone in. No one wanted to enter until we saw Deluvina Maxwell. She came with a lighted lamp in her hand, and she said, “I'm going in!” “Deluvina went in and put the lamp on the dresser near where Billy’s head had fallen. Deluvina, Grabbed Billy’s arm and turned him over. When she saw his face she screamed at Paulita Maxwell, both were naked and covered in blood.” Paco Anaya
@ebikeoutlaw8930
@ebikeoutlaw8930 Жыл бұрын
I can prove without a doubt from the photograph in the thumbnail that the individual claiming to be Billy the kid and/or brushy bill was in fact an actual person who really existed. Case closed, you may applaud my detective prowess.
@cmwanders
@cmwanders 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest and say I was a Brushy supporter, but thanks to your diligent and thorough research there is no way around it. He was not Billy the Kid. Thanks for sharing the truth.
@sabineb.5616
@sabineb.5616 Жыл бұрын
cmv, I also drank the Kool-Aid for a while and gravitated towards the "Brushy the Kid" myth because it was fascinating. It was nice to believe that Billy The Kid had somehow and against all odds managed to live a long and adventurous life! And the Brushy The Kid supporters manage to spin tall tales 😉 However, Brushy's stories have more holes than a Swiss cheese, and his own relatives have debunked his claims. The two guys don't even look like each other at all! Yes, they both have "Dumbo" ears and a slightly similar jaw line. But the shape of the eyes and brows is quite different, and the hair structure and colour is different, too! According to people who knew him the Kid had dark blond and slightly curly hair, while Brushy's hair was much darker and completely straight. Brushy's skin is darker, too. He might have a few hispanic genes. A couple of years ago another picture of the Kid has turned up which shows him with a bunch of guys in front of a house where they had gathered in order to play crocket. It's a fascinating picture, and it's obvious that Brushy Bill and Billy the Kid are two different guys. I have a hard time to believe that experts who have compared the pictures of both guys, came to the conclusion that the pictures might show the same person! But even if the bone structures are somewhat similar, there is still the hair and skin colour which is very different. And in 1950 Brushy doesn't look at all like someone in his 90s. Like many other legends the Brushy The Kid story has developed into a myth and the media play along because the truth is less interesting.
@thejamesbondshow9754
@thejamesbondshow9754 Жыл бұрын
You're a sheep
@Jenjenilou
@Jenjenilou Жыл бұрын
@@sabineb.5616 The croquet picture has not been authenticated. The alleged location is wrong - the building on the site wasn't built until 50 years after the photo was allegedly taken; the leafless trees show time of year is incorrect, even the supposed facial recognition match wouldn't hold up in a court of law. There is no provenance on this photo and other recent photo discoveries. They spring up out of nowhere and some expert or other declares them to be authentic photos of Billy the Kid, based on little more than 'he looks like him' or that someone else in the photo looks like someone who knew him so therefore it must be him. There is only one 'authenticated' image of Billy the Kid.
@5demelo1daniel0
@5demelo1daniel0 Жыл бұрын
Bro the way his hair looks the way his face looks the way everything looks you will not be able to compare the two pictures and be like yeah that's him or no that's not him.. LOL that's a joke right? I might even sayin brush is the kid what I'm saying is 21 years old to 90 years old things are definitely going to change. I had blonde hair when I was a kid now it's brown LOL. There would have to be measurements from the pupils to pupil eye brown eyebrow stuff like that and even then with those pictures you wouldn't be able to get 100%
@iracordem
@iracordem 2 ай бұрын
@@5demelo1daniel0 youre right its far harder than people realize
@Andrew-wv6fy
@Andrew-wv6fy Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm tired of arguing this story with people.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@kevinvilmont6061
@kevinvilmont6061 10 ай бұрын
Dang I wanted to argue! Oh well.
@Andrew-wv6fy
@Andrew-wv6fy 10 ай бұрын
@kevinvilmont6061 why so a dead fake can keep his fame?
@theotherone1668
@theotherone1668 2 жыл бұрын
I must have listened to your first video on brushy 3 to 4 times and have been desparate for more content on the subject. great video you've truly out done yourself and quenched the brushy bill itch I have
@frankcouste4785
@frankcouste4785 9 ай бұрын
Going for a pardon would have incriminated him. Why take that chance over nonsense
@ccrider3435
@ccrider3435 6 ай бұрын
Why did Garrett lie about so many events though?
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy 2 ай бұрын
The only explanation I have for that is Brushy being such a fan of Billy’s that he wanted to see his name cleared before he died. I don’t believe that though.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 ай бұрын
Sorry for the late reply, I just now saw this. There was no risk of Brushy incriminating himself because he wasn’t Billy the Kid. I came come forward right now and claim to be Jack the Riper but I wouldn’t be at risk because nobody would find my story believable.
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy 2 ай бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza Let’s say he wasn’t. He goes before the Governor, pleads his case, is believed, then arrested. Could Brushy then have proved he wasn’t Billy with any more ease than he was able to convince others he was Billy?
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 ай бұрын
@@SumDumGy Yes absolutely. He had a lifetime of documentation proving that he was Oliver Roberts and zero evidence he was Billy the Kid.
@colorfulfamily
@colorfulfamily Жыл бұрын
He bears no resemblance whatsoever- he didn’t want his wife to know he was claiming he was the kid - way too young ….I just don’t buy that Brushy was the kid
@colorfulfamily
@colorfulfamily Жыл бұрын
I’m still amazed at the amount of research you did, and then I also happen to agree with a lot of your personal take on that data - kudos on this video!
@TroyandAimee
@TroyandAimee 10 ай бұрын
Hinges on whether or not you believe the kid assumed this guys identity. It's 50/50 for me. If the kid took his identity, everything makes sense. If the kid didn't, everything makes sense. Either way I like to think he got away and lived a full rewarding life.
@Matty_Malice
@Matty_Malice 2 жыл бұрын
I'm the real Billy, I still have the bruises from falling from a second story window while hiding in a wooden Chest. Prove me wrong.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 жыл бұрын
The real Billy never would have capitalized the word "chest". El chivato respected the rules of grammar.
@Matty_Malice
@Matty_Malice 2 жыл бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza Dang, you got me there partner. Please excuse my poor grammar. I (like most other Wild West Extravaganza subscribers) haven't had much learnin'.
@matthewbizelli8741
@matthewbizelli8741 2 жыл бұрын
You ruined all your credibility when you started talking about Bigfoot. It shows what little you know
@jimmorrison3878
@jimmorrison3878 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewbizelli8741 I've seen one. Saddle Mountain Oregon. Look at the area on a map. Myself and a coworker. He refuses to talk about it in public but, an entirely different story when we are 1 on 1. Has the same fear in his eyes I do when talking about it. Never thought about Bigfoot or Sasquatch until this encounter. Possibly an unhealthy obsession ever since but, it's not something I research on my own... in PRIVATE, because I am trying to impress someone. I don't give an eff what anyone says. Hunted many years up until that encounter...I'm done now. Totally different perspective since that encounter. I could also call on several people to confirm my years before and after the experience. Nobody will care anyway.
@johnmcmurray1912
@johnmcmurray1912 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmorrison3878 I also saw a bigfoot but it was only a coworker that really needed a haircut.
@lelasrader4413
@lelasrader4413 8 ай бұрын
My husband recently died BUT his dad knew and was friends with Brushy Bill in Hico Texas. His dad told me the story about Brushy Bill and he was very believable .. Brushy Bill was the “ Billy the Kid”
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 ай бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss
@scotthuska3403
@scotthuska3403 5 ай бұрын
Im rooting for Brushy!!!
@rodfast8196
@rodfast8196 2 ай бұрын
No he was nt. Just another story teller . He wished he was Billy the kid.
@BilleyWinn-pv8xc
@BilleyWinn-pv8xc 10 сағат бұрын
I’m Billy the pig.Fastes farter in the west
@HonkyTonkHellraiser
@HonkyTonkHellraiser Жыл бұрын
I believe that Billy wasn't killed by Pat Garrett but I don't believe that Brushy Bill was William H Bonney
@jonahhex8178
@jonahhex8178 2 жыл бұрын
I've spent a large part of my life in the woods. I would love for bigfoot to be real. But it just ain't so. That said, if I did see bigfoot while I'm sitting in the stand, ain't no way in HELL I'd drop the hammer on him just to prove it. Sure as hell if you did it would be a dude in a suit.
@thecollectoronthecorner7061
@thecollectoronthecorner7061 Жыл бұрын
yes we know if you seen Bigfoot. You would throw your gun in the air away and run away in terror.
@glennwebster1675
@glennwebster1675 8 ай бұрын
He had a lot of the known wounds of the kid, And his accounts of things that transpired at the time was pretty interesting to say the least.... I don't know if we will ever really know the truth.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 ай бұрын
There is no evidence of the wounds...that's a common misconception. It's written in the book Alias Billy the Kid but William V. Morrison never provided any proof of these numerous scars. Also, Billy was only shot once (before being killed) so the only scar that would matter would be if Brushy had one on his thigh. Alas, no evidence though. As far as Brushy having inside knowledge, that too is false. Everything he knew he got from books.
@glennwebster1675
@glennwebster1675 8 ай бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza you should check out Brett Halls 4 hr take on it.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 ай бұрын
Ok
@ccrider3435
@ccrider3435 6 ай бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza So, you believe pat Garrett's account? lol C'mon man, at some point you need to put it all together and stop towing the line for demonstrably untrue accounts of history. That does not automatically mean Brusy was definitely Billy the Kid, but dismissing dozens of things like Brushy WAS IN FACT in Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders, is just silly.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 6 ай бұрын
@@ccrider3435 I have serious questions about Garrett's account and think there are many questions left unanswered. Was Billy really armed with a knife and pistol? Did he really say quien es? Did Pat shoot him as being raised his revolver or was it done from ambush? When was Billy's body removed from Maxwell's room? I'm not sure what you mean by me "toeing the line for demonstrably untrue accounts of history" when literally every historian agrees that Garrett killed Billy. Thankfully we don't have to go by Pat's account alone. Dozens of people - identified by historians by name - who knew Billy saw his body before it was buried. Many of these people were interviewed by historians and reporters, and some of them left their own written accounts. Much like with Pat's version, these other eyewitness stories have issues. The one thing that everyone agrees with (everyone who was at Fort Sumner) is that Billy was killed at Garrett's hand. Nobody who was at Fort Sumner (population of around 200 in 1881) ever came forward claiming it was a hoax or denying that Pat killed the Kid. Check out my video titled "Was Billy the Kid's Death a Hoax" for more particulars.
@SP-qo3pd
@SP-qo3pd 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think many folks really believed in Brushy. I remember hearing the story on Unsolved Mysteries and I knew he was just a pretender. Young Guns really helped Brushy's story to gain a foothold, but it was just a story. Brushy Bill is a figure that should be pitied because his actual life obviously didn't match up to Billy's.
@KruglugBadax
@KruglugBadax Жыл бұрын
Well said. Brushy might have been a diehard admirer of Billy the Kid so much that he went out of his to claim his identity.
@alexkempf6880
@alexkempf6880 Жыл бұрын
I fully believe brushy bill.
@SP-qo3pd
@SP-qo3pd Жыл бұрын
@@alexkempf6880 I wish I could to be honest. Billy got a raw deal in life. It would of been nice for him to change his name and live a normal & lawful life for 60+ years.
@a.gutierrez883
@a.gutierrez883 Жыл бұрын
@@SP-qo3pd he did
@AIRRAID2
@AIRRAID2 Жыл бұрын
@@a.gutierrez883 naw mane he didn't.
@p.j.morris
@p.j.morris 6 ай бұрын
Brushy Bill was not Billy the kid the pictures of both men do not match. Brushy bills niece said her uncle was not billy the kid. That guy was delusional or an attention seeker.
@wildcat8598
@wildcat8598 17 күн бұрын
I’ve always loved the story. Admittedly being born in the early 80’s while I was a young boy like you I was a big fan of Young Guns. Was one of my favorite movies as a kid. I as a kid thought the story was true but as an adult I started to look into it more I don’t think he’s The Kid. Just my personal opinion. As far as getting shot in the face that heals and doesn’t always leave one disfigured and plus decades later scars fade and wrinkles cover. Hell 50 Cent got shot with a 9mm in the face and barely had a scar. Granted it’s not a 45lc or whatever caliber was used. Again it’s a cool story and if people want to believe it that’s cool. I just don’t think he’s The Kid.
@DgDanger72
@DgDanger72 2 жыл бұрын
First off, don't disparage my favorite cryptid.... lol second, one of the better shows. The level of detail and research is absolutely fantastic. You're a gentleman and a scholar good sir.
@devlinmiller254
@devlinmiller254 Жыл бұрын
LMAO!!! -If liars go to Hell this dude is in the 9th Circle. 😂😂😂
@rudyraymoore6915
@rudyraymoore6915 4 ай бұрын
Brushy Bill Roberts was not Billy the Kid. But it does show how easily people can be conned. I love the arguments on his behalf he lied about everything to hide who he was but when he claimed to be Billy he was being honest lol
@Yup71719
@Yup71719 Жыл бұрын
As superficial as it is , fact Billy was known for having a sense of humor laughing all the time, very happy. Whereas Brushy bill is always scowling and or serious in his photos. For that reason alone I don't believe it's Billy the Kid
@hernandotorres1234
@hernandotorres1234 2 жыл бұрын
Quality podcast, as usual. Apart from all the fascinating content, the humour creases me up.
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@kennyberg1395
@kennyberg1395 Жыл бұрын
Brushy Bill knew Bigfoot. They rode together for about a year after the Lincoln County war.
@TommyBoy-719-
@TommyBoy-719- 27 күн бұрын
I live over here by Lincoln County New Mexico and have been interested in the Kids story since i myself was a kid! I’m a diehard fan of Billy and the Regulators! I won a radio contest a few years ago by answering a whole bunch of questions about the Lincoln County war and got my whole game room decked out with Billy the Kid wanted posters, mugs, books etc…One thing I never understood about the whole story was how they never took a picture of the most famous outlaw in New Mexico after Pat Garret supposedly shot him down that night. I figure they would be able to prove the Kid was indeed dead but there was never any proof. Every part of me wants to believe Billy and Pat came up with some kind of grand plan to make it seem like he actually was dead so he could just leave New Mexico and live his life, but I really don’t believe Brushy Bill was the Kid, so it will just always be a mystery, never to be solved! RIP Billy the Kid…🤜🏼🤛🏼
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 26 күн бұрын
I would love it if that was the case but unfortunately all the evidence points to Pat killing Billy.
@cokdnlokd1238
@cokdnlokd1238 Ай бұрын
Back in the 70's I worked with a mexican carpenter whose last name was Villegas ( I wont give his first name) . I worked side by side with him for a pretty good while. Once he knew me fairly well he related that his grandfather was friends with the historical Billy in either Fort Sumner or Santa Rosa I really cant remember for sure. I used to drink with the other Latino workers after work and on weekends and a few of them assured me that D---- Villegas was telling the truth. I have no idea about how Brushy may or may not be involved but for One I believe D----.
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 Жыл бұрын
I think the judges comment at the hearing about his pardon said ... I was born at night but it wasn't last night !
@Jn-ch5zw
@Jn-ch5zw Жыл бұрын
New to the channel, happy to find it. It's my humble opinion, I think Billy would not of laid low for long if his death was faked. I think his adventures was for more than money. Like that character said in the movie Heat, the action is the juice. He lived hard died young and left a good looking corpse.
@uttaradit2
@uttaradit2 Жыл бұрын
the real kid would have been killed sooner or later after escaping lincoln
@Jn-ch5zw
@Jn-ch5zw Жыл бұрын
@@uttaradit2 okay
@Bill_tyler
@Bill_tyler 11 ай бұрын
I grew up down the road from Hico Texas and to be honest, I always felt that brushy bill was a liar BUT Brushy is partly responsible for my interest in the Wild West era, built my interest in Billy the Kid and in fact, triggered my family to take a trip around the country following the Billy the kid trail up through New Mexico and back. Yeah, he’s a charlatan but he is partly responsible for keeping legends of the west alive.
@josephbrown4768
@josephbrown4768 2 жыл бұрын
I just listened to your first Brushy Bill video two days ago. Now we have an update! Happy day. Really like your podcast buddy.
@nojustno1216
@nojustno1216 Жыл бұрын
Wow…first no tooth fairy, then the easter bunny, then Santa. Now the last bit of mystery in my child-like 50+ year old mind has been taken away and proven to be fraudulent. My life really sucks….😂 Great job, I’m convinced that you’re right about Brushy. 👍
@reg6947
@reg6947 Жыл бұрын
Wait , some buthurt guy on KZbin says "liar" because he saw it on the History channel , then lies by omission , not mentioning the dozens of historians , Dr's and researchers evidence , so that means it's like the tooth fairy? Lol .zombie Poor guy knows he is wrong and makes him mad , hence the name calling and lying about "evidence". He called Bill's attorney a scammer , an old tabloid lie. Talk about dum.
@donc9751
@donc9751 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Ol Brushy Bill Robers pops up smack dab in the middle of more historical events than Forest Gump!!!
@nikkitanewhook4607
@nikkitanewhook4607 8 ай бұрын
@@donc9751 🤣
@ccrider3435
@ccrider3435 6 ай бұрын
@@donc9751 .. and real historians are putting EVIDENCE together to prove or disprove is life. Not just saying: "I believe Pat Garrett , the house, the Santa Fe Ring and my own lying eyes.." lol
@iracordem
@iracordem 3 ай бұрын
@@ccrider3435 agreed, except for the proving part. proof of anything is a unicorn, an inverse yoda…do there is not…only try😄
@middleamerican4673
@middleamerican4673 2 жыл бұрын
Well boys we got good news and bad news, good news is we got Brushy Bills story tonight, bad news is its all horseshit! Thanks for tha awesome ass episode Josh
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 Жыл бұрын
More like Bullshit !
@paulochoa5281
@paulochoa5281 Жыл бұрын
Shame on u. This guy is liar
@georgehammond2384
@georgehammond2384 Жыл бұрын
shut up
@rabbithole8592
@rabbithole8592 Жыл бұрын
If he's a lying liar , does it mean he's telling the truth? Doesn't lying liar cancel itself out or mean the opposite? A double negative in a way? I'm watching Young Guns right now!
@tbone2557
@tbone2557 8 ай бұрын
No one took pictures of the gunshot wounds or knife wounds. Billy the kid was well known No one would keep his death quiet.
@scotthuska3403
@scotthuska3403 5 ай бұрын
Not just that, they took no picture of the corpse at all. Lawmen taking pictures of the bodies of dead outlaws to prove they killed them was widely practiced back then. Refrigeration was unavailable then, so transporting bodies long distances for identification was not possible. They often posed with the bodies. Pat did not document the body with a photograph which is odd, because he had a writer along to document the details of the hunt for Billy! Plus, he did not present any of Billys belongings as proof he had killed him. This was standard practice back then as well. Items known to have belonged to the dead man would be presented to the authorities as proof of the killing. Pat said that Billys guns and personal effects were stolen the night before the burial. Also, someone stole Pats horse during the burial. So, no display of the body, no picture of the body, and all of Billys possessions AND Pats horse get stolen?
@phoenix4202
@phoenix4202 2 жыл бұрын
The whole brushy bill story reminds me of that x files poster, I WANT TO BELIEVE !! Love the podcast “bloody spurs josh” ps you sound exactly like Danny Mcbride 😂 love from Essex uk 🇬🇧 keep up the good work !!
@arnavy67
@arnavy67 8 ай бұрын
Old Brushy had me hook, line, and sinker (sort of) until he mentioned traveling around the world. Fantasy world.
@michaeldehart3253
@michaeldehart3253 11 ай бұрын
I think it’s possible Garret shot the wrong man and he kept his head down. In this scenario Brushy could still be a liar.
@stacypolk3580
@stacypolk3580 6 ай бұрын
I've always thought he was illegitimate. He doesn't even look like Billy at all to me. Brushy was delusional with a penchant for building lies to make himself something he's not. Ill bet he read every book about Billy that he could get his hands on to perpetuate his stories
@raymondpilarczyk2773
@raymondpilarczyk2773 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode, hilarious information on Brushy's part but truthful in-depth investigation on your part... reminds me of Frank Finkle who claimed later in life to have been with Custer at his last fight and survived the battle of the Little Bighorn, though his story actually does have a ring of truth
@davidmahady8241
@davidmahady8241 Жыл бұрын
There were survivors at Little Big Horn maybe not main battle but a Pittsburgh guy was a straggler who caught up to Custer at the coolie and claimed he saw Custer with a scout had teathered a sqaw and was preparing to rape and kill her ! But as discovered by them he motioned to them come on and rode off! If you read his account very interesting!!!
@ryanh9183
@ryanh9183 Жыл бұрын
@@davidmahady8241 I don't know, dude. Where did the woman come from? And when was this rape supposed to occur? During the battle? That would be pretty tricky to do while fighting for your life at the same time. Sounds pretty thin.
@Mma-basement-215
@Mma-basement-215 7 ай бұрын
Yeah the paper trail you just laid out pretty much tells me all I need to know he was born in either 1878 or 1880 where he lived his parent's his wives everything...
@Dave-ti1wv
@Dave-ti1wv 2 жыл бұрын
I am Custer, I shot my way out of the Little Bighorn and I'm currently living in a cave. I can prove this because I can tell you the layout of West Point, Checkmate.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 жыл бұрын
There were no pictures of a dead Custer come to think of it....
@Dave-ti1wv
@Dave-ti1wv 2 жыл бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza Exactly
@keepall3818
@keepall3818 2 жыл бұрын
“I’m Lincoln’s Grandfather” Tuco Romerez, the good the bad and the ugly.
@Ronald-wv1bz
@Ronald-wv1bz 8 ай бұрын
Personally I think Brushy Bill was full of manure. Simply based on Billy the Kid being aware of his fame at such a young age. It is against human nature for anyone to live quietly after gaining such fame, particularly for someone so young. There just is no way Billy the Kid would not have continued in the limelight so to speak, when everyone assumed him dead. Within a year the Kid would have made himself known to be alive and kicking. Staying incognito for the rest of his life when so young and self-assured and to believe he could have stayed hidden for 50 years is ludicrous.
@Barsvisualized
@Barsvisualized 6 ай бұрын
I understand what you’re saying. But if that same young famous person was wanted dead or alive in multiple states, I think that’s motivation enough to be quiet. Also he may have wanted to change his life around. I don’t think I believe Brushy is BTK but the reason you gave is easily debunked 🙏🏾
@carolynbuckley8733
@carolynbuckley8733 Жыл бұрын
I did not believe him as a kid when I watched Young guns. (Everyday for about 18 months straight) I just thought man wouldn't that be cool. I didn't think there was actually people out there that really believe his claim. I just thought we were all playing along for fun
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Haha
@smdftb8495
@smdftb8495 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing that people still give Brushy Bill's nonsense credence.
@dodgeramsport01
@dodgeramsport01 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing that people still give Billy died at 21 nonsense credence
@smdftb8495
@smdftb8495 Жыл бұрын
@@dodgeramsport01 hell I think it would be cool if Billy lived
@georgeroberts613
@georgeroberts613 Жыл бұрын
His fear in front of the governor and couple of walls of state police says different. He'd been living deliberately low key the rest of his life. Didn't behave in the slightest like someone looking for attention, avoided it with paranoia and he knew what he was talking about.
@douglasboyd8475
@douglasboyd8475 2 ай бұрын
I don’t know what it’s called, but there is a mental illness associated with narcissism that would explain brushy….. All of the tall tales that he told show someone desperately seeking attention and validation
@tracysmith3076
@tracysmith3076 7 ай бұрын
I agree, Brushy Bill is not Billy the Kid
@michaelsandersonll3617
@michaelsandersonll3617 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I have to say is that gun shot wounds do not always leave bad scars even when they cause a large wound. I know this from first hand experience having been shot myself!
@chosenone101
@chosenone101 Жыл бұрын
He was as phoney as a 3 dollar bill! I enjoyed the podcast very much!
@armymomheatherc
@armymomheatherc 11 ай бұрын
Brushy was never the kid. He wanted attention when he was much older and told his fantastical stories, as his life was winding down. He must have realized things were nearing the end. The kid was an outlaw, but the dead should be left alone. Brushy knew damn well. Telling lies like he did was that of a con artist . Truth is, he was just a man, very flawed like many are, and he wanted badly 2 be relevant. I am sure he did a few things but he greatly exaggerated them. Sad.
@bitzman1440
@bitzman1440 5 ай бұрын
Personally... I never believed this story when i first heard it as a kid in the 70's
@harrypothead42024
@harrypothead42024 2 жыл бұрын
great video very informative and interesting. I like the way you relay facts and tell a story.
@driftnanddreamn1536
@driftnanddreamn1536 2 жыл бұрын
Brushy Bill was full of scat, Garrett ambushed Billy that night.
@ermano58
@ermano58 Жыл бұрын
Right 100%
@ferdburfel6347
@ferdburfel6347 8 ай бұрын
Where's the legal document on file in New Mexico stating this? You are correct,it doesn't exist. If Billy the kid was killed, there would be a legal document. Sorry about that.Oh,I could give a rats ass about Brushy Bill.
@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera
@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera 2 ай бұрын
@@ermano58 Garrett and the kid got over on all of you . Brushy is in your history books , but you have to be educated to see it.
@WolfHeathen
@WolfHeathen 2 ай бұрын
@@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera People who claim Brushy is a liar tend to ignore the most prolific evidence which is the forensic analysis of his physical features. Inf act, one of the big arguments detractors use for why Brushy wasn't The Kid is the fact that the infamous "rifle photo" doesn't math Brushy's physical features. The "rifle" photo is heavily distorted and damaged due to age. The use of a reflective panel on his right side (the photo was taken outdoors and the panel had to be used in order to compensate for the sunlight hitting one side much more than the other) basically eliminated his shadowed jawline on the right side of this face, making him look disfigured. There are multiple other photos supposedly taken of The Kid, the most detailed of which has Jesse Evans in it. He used to ride with The Kid before the Lincoln County War. People who knew The Kid have corroborated that the "rifle photo" doesn't actually portray his real appearance, which explains why the physical features in the photo, at face value, don't match Brushy's. However, when you forensically account for the damage and digitally restore his proper jawline in the "rifle photo", his physical features match the appearance of not only The Kid in other claimed photos (such as the "Jesse Evans" photo) but also Brushy Bill's appearance. Brushy had the same protruding left ear, the same jawline, the same teeth and his facial measurements were the same. The Kid was also famous for having buck teeth and exaggerated K9s which Brushy had removed because of dental issues in 1931. This could've been seen as suspicious if it weren't for the fact that he kept his teeth as a memento. Brushy was also examined by a doctor for his taped interview. He had 26 scars on his body from bullet and knife wounds. The doctor found scars in from bullet wounds in all the right places where The Kid had been reportedly shot (including getting shot in the hip during the infamous shootout in Lincoln). Brushy even had a bullet still lodged in his calf muscle from when someone had shot The Kid in the leg. Detractors usually just disregard the medical opinion of these wounds and baselessly claim that Brushy was a clumsy farmer. I'm not saying that Brushy was The Kid. What I am saying, however, is that people who claim that Brushy wasn't The Kid aren't interested in truly finding out. Preserving the status quo is more important to them. They've made up their minds on this issue and they make the evidence fit their opinion. They make simple and easy excuses just to keep their opinion on the subject intact.
@ur8up2jabberwocky79
@ur8up2jabberwocky79 Ай бұрын
DO YOUR HOMEWORK, NOTHING BACKS PAT GARRETS STORY, NONE OF THE PEOPLE THERE OR THOSE AROUND THE INCIDENT, PAT SHOT THE WRONG MAN FOR THE 3RD TIME AND AGAIN COVERED IT UP AND TRIED TO COLLECT THE REWARD THAT WASN'T PAID BY THE GOVERNOR. BRUSH BILL KNEW THINGS ONLY BILLY THE KID WOULD HAVE KNOWN, MANY THINGS HE SAID LATER TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE, BILLY THE KID GOT AWAY THAT NIGHT, MANY KNEW IT.
@kirk1907
@kirk1907 2 жыл бұрын
Brushy Bill was just story teller, who talked a load of bull💩💩.
@daveporter666
@daveporter666 Жыл бұрын
I really wanted brushy to be the real deal , I read Daniel Edwards book and was convinced that he was really on to something. However look at the kids ears , he has ear lobes , brushy does not , brushy CANNOT be Billy the kid. I am disappointed as I like most people wanted the kid to have a life. I think he was shot from ambush just like the " Pals " he lies with.
@AIRRAID2
@AIRRAID2 2 жыл бұрын
Brushys pants was lit ...and no he was not a fashionista..
@misshestermofet2288
@misshestermofet2288 Жыл бұрын
I'm with you on this, i REALLY want him to be billy the kid. When he cake forward he gave us ll hope that billy didn't die by being shot in the dark and his legend could live on, in the end, i think that's how we all want it to be.
@ccrider3435
@ccrider3435 6 ай бұрын
What were the first words spoken after Billy was supposedly shot? I'll tell you: "You shot the wrong man Garrett." 🤔
@KruglugBadax
@KruglugBadax Жыл бұрын
It should take one glance at the tintype to decide if Brushy was in fact Billy, not a 70 year debacle trying to crack whether that loner is the one and only.
@SKaR64
@SKaR64 2 жыл бұрын
This was a good and interesting analysis of Brushy Bill's tall tales. You come a long way since your Glanton video.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying
@John-uo2bx
@John-uo2bx 8 ай бұрын
I get in this video we are only talking whether Brushy story was real or not I believe him also as far as birthdates back then humans suck at recording accurate birthdays Billy was born in NY but even people who came across Elis Island people changed their name and birthdate by word, even today courts make errors. Just a theory, Pat save him they probably split the reward, Pat promised him future money from his future business like a book etc to keep Billy away and quiet, in the US the truth is never important money and power is, the city of Fort Sumner and state of New Mexico government do not want to exhume the body of billy the kid and his mother to solve this thru DNA and at the same time they could also test Brushy Bill's DNA the reason they do not want to is because they know the truth and the want tourist money to keep tourist coming in to the city and state, also absolutely right the fact that if Garret had killed him he would have take photos with the corpse and display it for the public to see him this is a huge red flag, Brushy Bill was Billy the kid no doubt you can tell by all the actions taken and not taken.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 ай бұрын
Are all of the historians in on it to?
@Bradkurily
@Bradkurily 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t get enough of your videos pal. Great work
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ninjaaitools
@ninjaaitools Жыл бұрын
I've never believed Brushy was the Kid, but I've never heard Brushy's life story. How could anyone believe what this man said. It's utterly ridiculous. It was obviously just some old man telling lies about his life.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Cognitive bias
@dakotamartin523
@dakotamartin523 5 күн бұрын
I’ve been playing red dead online for like a week listening to this. Broke my foot so I’m laid up. It’s been a good time.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 күн бұрын
Heck yeah
@dakotamartin523
@dakotamartin523 3 күн бұрын
I’ll ride again
@oldhillbillybuckkowalski
@oldhillbillybuckkowalski 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 51 years old. When people guess my age they usually guess late 60s to early 70s. When they hear I'm a combat veteran they assume I fought in Vietnam. By the way, the people guessing my age are mostly 35 or older, and a lot of those guessing I fought in Vietnam actually did fight in Vietnam.
@danieljonhson6367
@danieljonhson6367 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 51 too and I'm also a Desert shield/storm veteran and I also have people guess my age as a lot older .
@oldhillbillybuckkowalski
@oldhillbillybuckkowalski 2 жыл бұрын
@@danieljonhson6367 yeah something about that one, between the chemicals "We weren't exposed to" the perfectly safe experimental meds, and the deleted uranium flying around it may have, and I'm just spitballing here, but just possibly there may have been some long term bad affects but I dunno, just an E4 in 1st Brigade 24th Infantry Division, Heavy Mechanized.
@NecrosTheUnholy
@NecrosTheUnholy 2 жыл бұрын
I agree , I know people who look far younger than they are. I also disagree with the doings of an 13 year old back then, kids had far more responsibilities . I’m still digesting this information & need to do some research.
@ChrisSavenSH
@ChrisSavenSH 2 жыл бұрын
"the type of person to whom reality is merely a suggestion.." 😀 brilliant, as is the rest of the content. Keep up the good work.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 жыл бұрын
I stole that from Yannis Pappas
@ChrisSavenSH
@ChrisSavenSH 2 жыл бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza fair dues, I don't rate his wild west podcasts highly at all...
@BIGSeeVeeZee
@BIGSeeVeeZee 11 ай бұрын
Just for the record.. I do not believe Brushy was Billy the Kid.
@CarlosPEnis
@CarlosPEnis Жыл бұрын
And the same Van Zandt county is where some of Brushy Bill's descendants still live, including me. I honestly don't know what to believe, he probably wasn't actually Billy the Kid but he was related to my grandpa's side of the family and my grandpa met him when he was a kid in the 1920s. I have a great uncle in the family that is a compulsive liar and story teller so maybe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree
@louiefalcon9488
@louiefalcon9488 Жыл бұрын
Bravo!!! I was a believer but nobody has ever laid out the bullshit side of it, only the "he is him side" . Always thought Billy's ego would not have let him hide his whole life.
@SmellyMellyization
@SmellyMellyization Жыл бұрын
No it wouldn't have lol.
@davidmahady8241
@davidmahady8241 Жыл бұрын
When woman questioned him on girl friend a fact that she said only " Billy the kid" would know and he gave an immediate unflinching correct answer to a question almost impossible to prepare for!!!!! That prove Brushy Bill as well as scarf from Dellavina The same evil sons of bitches who wanted him dead want you to believe they got over on Billy and killed him but I don't think so I think Brushy was him and Evans who did recover on his claim of being Evans with state of Florida said he was !! As well as unique eyes that at least one of affidavit signers said matched Billy's Sandy Hook fake I've seen Gene Rosen on tape fake crying " oh the kids" as he is being coached off camera!! " Did I do it right "??Charade shooting to grab people gun rights "!! This moron is either stupid beyond belief lazy beyond belief or a govt. shill!! Cause anyone who examines any of these wack job conspiracies thoroughly finds out they are mostly credible and accurate which evil govt tries to obfuscate!!
@jameswagner2634
@jameswagner2634 Жыл бұрын
I was an ambulance driver and I seen many gunshot wounded patient’s and Billy kid said he was shot in the jaw and it knocked out a tooth , then he must’ve been hit by a ricochet shot and most likely didn’t penetrate the skin. Because if he was shot directly with a 44 It would’ve taken out more than just a tooth , and would’ve tore out most of his cheek on the on the way out. And would’ve made his face very deformed especially back in those days.😎🤠🇺🇸🏴‍☠️👍
@Shawn6751
@Shawn6751 Жыл бұрын
Pat Garrett was an outlaw as well so he could have faked Billy the Kid's death.
@SydWaters1776
@SydWaters1776 10 ай бұрын
Love your content. I tried watching the first, earlier part and the link is dead. Any chance you'll put it on KZbin? Or another location? Either way I be lots to watch. I appreciate your channel.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 10 ай бұрын
I'll try to fix the link, thanks for the heads up. If you scroll all the way down on the videos you should be able to find it
@adrianjos04
@adrianjos04 Жыл бұрын
Jesse Evens confirmed that Brushy Bill Roberts was ' Billy the Kid '
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
He certainly did not. Evens disappeared after leaving prison. Jesse Evans was not Joe Hines, and I don't think Joe Hines was real either.
@billrichards2177
@billrichards2177 2 жыл бұрын
I repeat, Dwarf Paladin wins every time. Those damn dirty orcs!
@matthawkins8337
@matthawkins8337 2 жыл бұрын
Great show! I never get tired of Brushy Bill. It's almost as compelling as the real Billy the Kid story. It would be cool if Young Guns 3 "unmasks" Brushy Bill while keeping alive the idea that the Kid may have survived.
@sabineb.5616
@sabineb.5616 Жыл бұрын
Matt Hawkins, I agree! The "Brushy The Kid" story is not true. But it still a fascinating tale - especially when we consider the claim of Brushy's old buddy Frank Dalton who said that he was Jesse James. This is a hoot - these two old guys who managed to fool so many people 😉 And yes, it would be a great script for a movie!
@jasonmatthews7829
@jasonmatthews7829 Жыл бұрын
They sorta made one. "Old Henry" with Tim Blake Nelson. It's a good movie, check it out. Great cast.
@joelsexton5522
@joelsexton5522 3 ай бұрын
I thought there was a good chance that brushy Bill Roberts could be billy the kid but now that I hear all of that I don't think so
@arthurdalton517
@arthurdalton517 3 ай бұрын
I yousto be a believer but you have changed my mind about Brushy Bill, Great job on the historic Documentary
@arthurdalton517
@arthurdalton517 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your response. Just incase you have any thing on the Dalton gang I am related to them. Again great job on the podcast
@VyperVenom
@VyperVenom 2 жыл бұрын
My family had direct connections to Billy and many other Regulators as well as John and Sally Chisum, which is documented in the book "My Girlhood Among Outlaws" by Lily Casey Klasner (my great great aunt). Billy was employed by my 3rd great grandmother Ellen Evaline Shellenbarger-Casey who had a warrant for her arrest in 1881 (by Pat Garrett), the same time Pat supposedly killed Billy. In 1984 I visited my great grandma Cora Moore (Ellen Casey-Moore's daughter in law) who was in a nursing home, and in conversation, she told me that Garrett did not kill Billy, because Billy had come from Lincoln, NM to Toyah, TX with The Casey's in 1882. He offered them protection from indians and bandits because Ellen was a widow, her husband Robert Casey had been gunned down in Lincoln in 1875. Billy stayed with them a short time and left for Mexico. I didn't really believe my great grandma at the time, but she apparently knew exactly what she was talking about. She had no reason to lie about it. I questioned my grandpa Harvey (her son) about it and he nodded and said it was true, but that "we don't talk about it". I believe William Henry Roberts was the real deal. He was Billy the Kid.
@Matt-kg3ge
@Matt-kg3ge 2 жыл бұрын
You keep pushing this why don't you just prove it without bs and excuses that you can't so shut up or prove it.
@tonimello3112
@tonimello3112 Жыл бұрын
So far as your Dad seeing a black panther it is highly likely he did! Many people have been keeping wild animals as pets, especially in Texas where no laws against it have always been! Back in 1977 while visiting my grandmother in Friendswood Texas, I went out front of her house and saw a young African Lion cub wandering the neighborhood! You can't say it's impossible for any animal to be seen anywhere anymore!!!
@dal8963
@dal8963 11 ай бұрын
I saw a mountain lion that was dark brown like no animal I've ever seen like a redish brown saw it hopping a Bob wire fence while i was coming down a road early in the morning around hico tx the place bushy bill lived when trying to figure out what I just saw found a photo on google saying they where most likely extinct for at least 100 years but used to roam Texas and mexico. Well they are still around or at least one was.
@phoradio1277
@phoradio1277 2 жыл бұрын
1:04:00 YOU OWE ME A DRINK!!!! "You're the type of person who sees reality as merely a suggestion and I gotta be honest I'm a little jealous" 👈FUNNIEST WAY EVER TO WIN AN ARGUMENT 😂😂😂
@fatherofmimes4236
@fatherofmimes4236 8 ай бұрын
Gained a sub! Your delivery and humor are stellar. You deserve at the very least a Extra part in YG3! I hope you get that dream. I'm 62 yo, when talking to my Grandchildren, I find my own stories sound like truth stretchin'... They all can be backed up through photos. There is a period of time from age 11 to 25 that I did more things extraordinary, than seems possible. But I done did 'em. Married to the same wife goin' on 40 years now. Even that seems impossible(don't tell her that)! You keep on educating us, we will keep on listening. Thanks for all your time and effort entertaining your subs! Greatly appreciated Pardner!
@paraconsistentjojo
@paraconsistentjojo 2 жыл бұрын
He looks nothing like Billy the Kid. Completely different bone structure. Ridiculous. How is this even a question? Weird.
@ninjaaitools
@ninjaaitools 7 ай бұрын
Great episode! If Brushy was Billy, the evidence would be overwhelming. The evidence would line up almost perfectly. There would be no need for relying on hearsay and anecdotal evidence.
@kelvinmorris1991
@kelvinmorris1991 4 ай бұрын
Facial recognition says 93% he’s Billy the kid
@ninjaaitools
@ninjaaitools 4 ай бұрын
​@@kelvinmorris1991do more research.
@iracordem
@iracordem 3 ай бұрын
if you were billy the kid and survived? dont know why youd even want to, what with the death sentence and all, but youd say what? ‘im billy the kid’?
@miken2968
@miken2968 6 күн бұрын
Guy making this tries to hard to prove he's not...​@kelvinmorris1991
@bradleyungles8605
@bradleyungles8605 2 жыл бұрын
You've come to be on my top 5 podcasts. You should do one on jedediah smith, he was killed not too far from where my family's farm is. Keep em coming brother!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 жыл бұрын
Soon!
@rickyhurtt5568
@rickyhurtt5568 11 ай бұрын
He is not the kid. I rode with the kid and that's not him
@BilleyWinn-pv8xc
@BilleyWinn-pv8xc 10 сағат бұрын
Agreed before u rode with the kid I had him locked up in my jail cell.He escaped.
@shwngbr
@shwngbr Жыл бұрын
When you see alleged pictures of Billy The Kid, noone says that looks exactly like Billy. It is always, that resembles him.
@NinjaGrrrl7734
@NinjaGrrrl7734 2 жыл бұрын
I CAN HEAR IT NOW YES YES YES okay I'll clqm down and listen now. I was so bummed I couldn't hear it yesterday!!!! ❤️
@harrypothead42024
@harrypothead42024 Жыл бұрын
I've never understood the scars thing. I could have a scar from a shark bite that doesn't make me Cheif Brody.
@windpea
@windpea 2 жыл бұрын
I like to believe Billy survived Pat Garrett then he went to live a quiet life and had a family somewhere in Mexico
@justinroberts5400
@justinroberts5400 2 жыл бұрын
Gale Cooper’s books on Billy the Kid have been a real eye opener for me.
@DANGERUSSTV
@DANGERUSSTV 2 жыл бұрын
She's a nutcase
@keepall3818
@keepall3818 2 жыл бұрын
@@DANGERUSSTV a nut case who did years of research, and totally picks apart Brushy’s bull💩
@ermano58
@ermano58 Жыл бұрын
Its DR gale cooper and shes debunked destroyed demolished bullshit bill hes over
@jessicacandelaria3801
@jessicacandelaria3801 11 ай бұрын
Hello. I just came across your podcast and this episode of brushy Bill. You asked for us to listen to original episode on brushy Bill, but the link takes you to a page not found on pod page. Is there another way I could listen to first episode on brushy? Thanks. I don't want to listen to this episode until I listen to the first one.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 11 ай бұрын
Whoops, my bad. If you scroll thru my videos to the very bottom it should be there. I'll try to change the link today.
@MarcStJohn-nn5wj
@MarcStJohn-nn5wj 2 ай бұрын
Well my story is my great grandfather knew Billy's girl and was Mexican and was told he went to Mexico he was fluent in Spanish
@albinorhino8732
@albinorhino8732 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe Garrett killed Billy. However, I'm not convinced that Brushy Bill was Billy. It's possible though. 2 things can be true.
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