Was Gathering Nerfed For Veteran Players in Black Desert Online?!

If you thought the State of Lifeskilling is bad in Black Desert now its time to take a look at Gathering as a Veteran Player! While all the newer updates are being made for the new players for Black Desert Online is there a way to make Gathering Fun for the Veteran Players or is Gathering only fun for the new players that don't search anything up?
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[@TeddyTwighlite]

Always having fun ranting about Lifeskilling even though its something I like in the game but hey we all can't be winners right? This is JUST my opinion and if you're offended there's always mob grinding right? Juuuuust kidding, but was a fun stream kzbin.infoCeZfaF5Pra8 if you want to see any other topic be sure to jump into the stream and leave a like if you enjoyed this rant but as always keep Gathering out there!

[@Qwertyuiop78945611]

Just remove the imperial delivery limit per day and scale it based on mastery and profit per hour. Lifeskiller needs to have reliable way to make silver instead of depending on the market.

[@stanpikaliri1621]

No. The whole game was designed to be dynamic.

[@TeddyTwighlite]

Only as dynamic as your credit card can make it after buying 10 costumes to sell for 2.2b or my personal favorite, you'll waste your time and silver doing anything but swiping your card. That's a great dynamic a lot more games should adopt lol

[@stanpikaliri1621]

@@TeddyTwighlite You are talking about Pearl Shop and I was talking about core dynamic trading system that can be influenced by how many people sell fish to a trader. By removing the limits the system would no longer be dynamic.

[@TeddyTwighlite]

I see what you mean, our credit card IS dynamic lol

[@Qwertyuiop78945611]

It’s not supposed to be dynamic when we are talking about selling item to npc. Its to have a reliable way for lifeskiller to make silver like grinder where grinder sell trash loot to npc. Whatever is going on with the central market now should leave it as it is.

[@ibrahimklnc1627]

Imperial delivery must be 1cp per box + they must seperate the alchemy and cooking box limit. ( Btw alchemy boxes need lil bit of change too, its useless atm) Example: if I have 300 cp, I should be deliver 300 cooking + 300 alchemy box per day.

[@TeddyTwighlite]

Yeahbtheyve been complaining about that since the 2nd trading rework went out and they had to nerf cooking and alchemy

[@rogue2791]

God I just came back ang wanted to go ham on lifeskilling again. I guess I'll just lifeskill for imperial and just grind an hour a day.

[@DaEpic326]

I think the way to improve life skilling would be to improve the item sink. Node workers and gathering bring in materials that lead to them devaluing over time. If materials had more uses or got used more, it would lead to higher prices. Ie when copepr was newly able to make t10 censors shot up the price of copper. I think LoML p2 needs more used consumables that use mostly current mats but some from that area to spread out competition. I would also say if base gathering gave more mats or even more of the enhancing material would be a nice buff, i get way more enhancing material from hunting then i do gathering with way less mastery in hunting (about a 300 mastery difference)

[@DaEpic326]

I would also advocate for life skill levels doing more and not purely mastery. According to the internet energy saving caps at master 1 which means higher levels only give mastery. Most skills levels wise outside of mastery gain just look lack luster. I think it would be neat to get another(permanent)treasure item for life skilling. I aim to get an Ebenruth gnol and krogdalo sanctuary but something from gathering, farming, hunting, etc would be nice.

[@CannabisMJ]

Some good points. The millennial ginseng was a good addition for active gatherers but of course i won't claim that bridges the gap much.

[@TeddyTwighlite]

They'll make it an alchemy drop next lol or cooking

[@pozisus7712]

exact video that i was thinking about. thank you for holding the line teddy:)

[@TeddyTwighlite]

Hey we shouldn't settle for hand me downs or the unloved aspect of the game being considered fine because a smaller amount of players enjoy it

[@pozisus7712]

@@TeddyTwighlite tottaly agree with you. i dont ask the same time afford reward ratio but 1 hour is still 1 hour u know.

[@SolarianN2]

Never seen the other delotia spot. Glad I do the compact one so I don't have to run a ton.

[@TeddyTwighlite]

I don't really bother with delotia tbh, Alchemy is just not hitting the same

[@dudedavid34]

Idk why they don't just copy the way PvE gear works for life skills. ATM you do the same things at 0 mastery as you would 2k, but w/ the higher mastery you make more money. What if they had mastery requirements for higher level gathering areas that would make more profit, but you get like tarnished scraps if you try to go there w/o enough mastery. That way you have a real reason to go upgrade your life skilling gear and you're not just doing the same things you were just doing.

[@danielgtaiv]

I dont have much time to play latelly, bu i feel elk spot for deer blood is so nerfed now

[@TeddyTwighlite]

I noticed Frost Wolves werent feeling the same but I thought it was just me and my rng

[@thenightingale7405]

What did they nerf on underwater gathering?

[@TeddyTwighlite]

You can use workers to gather the Colored Coral, Coral pieces, and SMH can be used to Crystal Coral with a higher drop chance than Gathering, Traces and Fruits are Gathereable from Workers and for me I've been just relying on them with the prices of Alchemy not worth making anything. Alchemy rare procs other Gathering items forcing you to not bother going for em oh and those prices fell like stated before.

[@thenightingale7405]

@@TeddyTwighlite In that case what they need to do is figure out a way to create demand to accommodate the increased supply. That would be better than using gatekeeping as a method to keep the prices up.

[@TeddyTwighlite]

@thenightingale7405 yes! Creating a demand would add opportunities for those to make money if they took the time to do it opposed to "you know you can do that faster by doing anything BUT that" kinda way we have now

[@ej2536]

Why don't they just raise the price caps of materials. It seems like there's a lot of endless preorders on them.

[@TeddyTwighlite]

eh kinda a small bandage. Thats just like removing the bottlenecks on Alchemy because people wanted to make Elixirs to sell and make money easier but brought the price of a lot of the Alchemy. Why not add more of a need like I don't know... Processing Guild Missions for Materials or add different Trade Boxes or something to use the useless Materials which could in turn allow them to increase the prices to match the new demand. I'm no dev though just a thought is all!

[@despondentanura6939]

good nodes that people say are sht, are the duven mythril nodes, they give wild amounts of trace of nature

[@TeddyTwighlite]

A lot about the game we're told not to do because it's shit lol like lifeskilling lol or anything that's NOT mob grinding

[@SmileyBDO]

@@TeddyTwighlite go hunt it’s good lol

[@PastorDanplaysboardgames]

You are correct from my view point. I can go grind a make a lot of money but I can’t grind more than 2 hours a day , BDO burned me out. I love lifeskills. I would like that be fact checked- when BDO launched in North America we were told it was originally a Korean life skill game that had pvp added to try to get into the western mmo market. To hang with them and it would improve. As games age they get down to a core membership. Take Daoc dark age of Camelot. I am interested in knowing what the core will be pvp or lifeskill. Some content creators have said bdo won’t be around for ever. I disagree- Daoc 22 or so years and I still think their pvp is better. Pc bdo pvp is awesome also but console it’s impossible. A pc game bdo being dummied down to console doesn’t to the game justice. The lifeskill is really good in this game. I appreciate all this game has to offer and I appreciate all the betterment they do. I’m not appreciative of the red headed step child thing right now. Not appreciative of the behind on promised content. Not appreciative of 1 and I’m serious 1 old tree bark every 5 or 6 chops. Unless it’s a mini game. I was getting more with out the mini game before the family integration. I would love to talk to the devs and share my almost 50 years of gaming experiences and the good and bad of other games and how I love this game for… but they are still trying to cater to pvp and not the hole player base. Like in other games if the pvp doesn’t get fixed- current mantra = who ever lags less will win. You will get left with lifeskillers once the new game comes out with mmo pvp. I would love to see a 1 month stress test . On the test - pvp only on Arsha and lifeskill only server no changing servers for the month and see what your real base is and what they would prefer. Just a thought. Thanks for the video- and a big amen pastor.

[@boogusnutsack5926]

Possible changes to improve life skilling content: 1. Make elixirs and food buffs run for 5 minutes instead of 15/30/60 minutes. (Decrease weight of mentioned to 0.01 to compensate for increased volume) 2. Reduce the price of elixirs and foods by half. (More actively manage price caps of said items to promote MP crafting to satiate demand) 3. Strengthen buffs gained from elixirs/foods and rebalance AP/DP brackets accordingly to promote heavier use of elixirs/food. 4. Double energy regen rate and increase chance to not use energy back to it's former cap of 60% for higher levels. 5. Remove imperial delivery cap. Outcome: 1. Market throughput for products will be greatly increased allowing MP alchemy/cooking/processing to be viable. 2. Life skillers who don't grind can do what they enjoy all day, instead of logging in to energy dump in a mere 30 minutes and do imperial in 40 minutes, being left with nothing to do or desire to continue actively playing. 3. Incentivizes fairy growth for auto buffing food/potions items. This means more $$$ P2W on fairies (HINT HINT PEARL ABYSS). Right now the market place is dead. 95% of all recipes have 10s of thousands of listed items with daily volume numbers ranging in 100's. There's a very select few recipes you can actually make that can viably sell within a month on the MP. There's way to much supply of everything and not enough demand. Price caps not being raised ever on cheaper items that have demand doesn't incentivize anyone to go gather the required items, why would I use my energy gathering weeds to sell for 10k each, when i can just gather snake meat and sell it for 40k each with the same infinite buy orders at max? In fact why would i bother gathering anything else at all? it's 900 - 1.1b per hour on a seasonal character with a magic butchers knife. Alchemy is basically make metal solvent or farm delotia for abysmal delotia essence drop rate to make 10 bottles of perfume. Cooking is basically make turn in daily imperials >>> Log out. I've only played the game for 24 days so maybe I'm retarded and not qualified to have an opinion yet, but this is what life skilling has amounted to for me. Currently gathering delotia for the essence and letting it stack up. Gather snake/scorp when i run out of money to buy more trace of nature. Sit in my house crafting metal solvent while my energy regens. Wait forever for it to sell on MP. Make nothing crafting liquid reagent to pass the time while energy regens.

[@TeddyTwighlite]

This right here! 👆👆👆

[@ZeroWalker26]

Honestly This is not the first time I see a mmo I love get screwed over and well there is a Reason I play Ragnrok private server instead of the official and I will say PA make Black desert private servers look more and more tempting becuse just like Ragnarok online I still love the game it self but I could give less shit about the official game server.

[@TeddyTwighlite]

A perfect description there. I've watched a lot of MMO's too throw away a community to keep the majority of their money until that side then turns on them for siding with the whales and then you get the Notice of Termination like Archeage (great beta2 and 3 then self sabotage each rerelease)

[@cronosrus]

Sold all my 20/4 manos stuff and invested all this silver into hammers. No regerts at all.

[@Omni_Shambles]

2K Gathering is better than it has ever been. Energy is the issue.

[@TeddyTwighlite]

More like the fact that Energy regen is heavily tied into real money. Reminds me of a more laid back version of Archeages energy on release. At least we no longer use energy for cooking, alchemy, and processing!

[@TheKChristopher]

for sure you realize it @7:55 . how you talk about enjoyment and ask for more silver per hour for what reason? you said it yourself"I love life skilling , 10% of the game but don't matter because that's what you do" they didn't take anything from lifeskilling at all. there's no actual gear difference other than mastery. but lets be real , you life skill because its easy , keep you afloat in the game while you recharge from sweaty GVG , NW , siege or grinding. I'd understand if you're the ones who grinded for years for their tet black star , t9 horse and tri manos etc . just for it to free by playing season. we ain't complaining over here. if you want an easy grind for extra silver. go to blood wolves. or lets be real , you want true gains then tap for tet debos and sell it

[@TeddyTwighlite]

Eh don't care. Swiping the credit card to sell costumes is faster and easier. If not we'll then you're just bad at the game lol

[@kingmalkontent8471]

on EU it's even worse, so we can cry all together 🥲

[@TeddyTwighlite]

I was mentioning that in the whole stream lol I'm complaining yet EU has dealt with this for how many years now?!?