Was Molly O'Shea PREGNANT? Red Dead Redemption 2 Theory!

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TheThirdMeteorite

TheThirdMeteorite

7 ай бұрын

Red Dead Redemption 2 is known for its complex characters, and Molly O'Shay is no exception. In this video, we explore the intriguing theory surrounding Molly's potential pregnancy. While the game doesn't explicitly confirm it, there are subtle clues and context that leave the possibility open. We delve into Molly's life, her relationships, and her tragic journey, shedding light on why this theory adds depth to her character. Join us in investigating the mysteries of Molly O'Shay's story and share your thoughts in the comments. Don't forget to subscribe for more thought-provoking Red Dead Redemption 2 content. Let's unravel this enigma together!

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@willersontntboom
@willersontntboom 7 ай бұрын
It's also important to pay attention at the simbolism on how each character dies. She died to a shot in the gut. Not a headshot, not stabbed, not decapitaded. A gut shot. A wound that would directly hit a prossible baby. One that may or may not still be in her womb
@iceluvndiva21
@iceluvndiva21 7 ай бұрын
Huh, good catch. Though grimshaw also gets a shot to the gut, possibly referencing how she was camp Mom/Grandma.
@werewofmikasa657
@werewofmikasa657 6 ай бұрын
Dang never noticed can you explain other characters death simbolism
@tyjackson1637
@tyjackson1637 6 ай бұрын
So would Sean’s dear mean he was a hothead
@TheRedDeadRanger
@TheRedDeadRanger 6 ай бұрын
Hosea also got a shot to the gut
@willersontntboom
@willersontntboom 6 ай бұрын
@@TheRedDeadRanger I believe Hosea was shot in the chest, that's why he died so fast even though he was hit with a low caliber, he was hit in the lungs. Lungs that were sick from a previous disease constantly shown in the previous chapters but never directly addressed
@thorazine
@thorazine 7 ай бұрын
in a way, karen and molly are foils of each other. karen is “low class” but seems to not care and is able to be herself, while molly considers herself high class and is constantly struggling with her identity in the gang and the world at large. the one realm in which molly seems to be able to be honest with herself is in regards to her feelings for dutch; meanwhile, it’s obvious that karen loved sean (from their sweet camp scenes + it’s after his death that we see her drinking really increase), but she’s unable to be honest with him in the way that molly is able to with dutch. you could even say that when karen screams, “she was in love!” she’s talking about herself, too: not only is she yelling at grimshaw, she’s yelling at the whole way of life, and mourning her own loss. what a game. truly unmatched storytelling.
@troperhghar9898
@troperhghar9898 7 ай бұрын
I wish we could had a mission with molly in saint dennis the same way we did with the others in the other towns
@iceluvndiva21
@iceluvndiva21 7 ай бұрын
I don't think we got a mission with Peirson either. I know he got a few cut scenes during different missions but I don't count those.
@puzzlej7592
@puzzlej7592 7 ай бұрын
@@iceluvndiva21there is a side mission where you can go with pearson to hunt for crawfish and gator eggs. but that's the only time arthur and pearson hang out together.
@puzzlej7592
@puzzlej7592 7 ай бұрын
molly was supposed to be in the gilded cage mission. there is cut dialogue from her. and she was supposed to wear a fancy dress. so she originally had more screentime but it was cut. it's a shame too because molly is an underused character. so her appearance in this mission would have added more to her story.
@JesG.
@JesG. 6 ай бұрын
Same everytime they would have a mission of her we would get interrupted by dutch or uncle and it isn't even a molly mission they keep avoiding her
@chriskerr3415
@chriskerr3415 7 ай бұрын
Molly is the only onscreen death of a gang member who doesn't have a grave to visit.
@astrov81
@astrov81 4 ай бұрын
what about micah
@chriskerr3415
@chriskerr3415 4 ай бұрын
@@astrov81 who? He doesn't count 😂
@A_Randomguy_
@A_Randomguy_ 4 ай бұрын
@@astrov81 gang members not gang rats
@mermaidgirl0075
@mermaidgirl0075 2 ай бұрын
@@astrov81that’s a fair enough point, even though he doesn’t have a grave either I think you can go back to his body after the epilogue when he died
@YashSontakke-uj4jt
@YashSontakke-uj4jt 7 күн бұрын
6:10 you can listen to the dialogue, her body was burnt.
@Ghoulstille
@Ghoulstille 7 ай бұрын
Even though she was stuck up (mainly due to her upbringing) I always felt sorry for Molly.
@iceluvndiva21
@iceluvndiva21 7 ай бұрын
Same.. She didn't deserve that.
@JesG.
@JesG. 6 ай бұрын
​@@iceluvndiva21same she's the reason she got Lenny and Hosea killed but at the same time it's hard for me to hate her
@hotcheetosqueen5841
@hotcheetosqueen5841 5 ай бұрын
​@@JesG.She lied about telling the feds lmao
@JesG.
@JesG. 5 ай бұрын
@@hotcheetosqueen5841 what do you mean Milton said that she was a traitor too
@codyrooker4551
@codyrooker4551 5 ай бұрын
@@JesG.No, he said she never talked.
@Nomad416
@Nomad416 7 ай бұрын
Molly slapping Karen and getting coldcocked in return never gets old.
@Taima
@Taima 25 күн бұрын
Molly ironically was the real Karen all along
@CheezDoodlezz
@CheezDoodlezz 7 ай бұрын
If she really was Ms grimshaw got that *DOUBLE KILL*
@TheThirdMeteorite
@TheThirdMeteorite 7 ай бұрын
Damn 😂😂 True tho
@CheezDoodlezz
@CheezDoodlezz 7 ай бұрын
@@TheThirdMeteorite😂
@theevilone1646
@theevilone1646 7 ай бұрын
Note Grimshaw was also at somepoint prior to Molly with Dutch as a night lady
@manbearpig342
@manbearpig342 7 ай бұрын
While it's possible she was pregnant I don't think that was a major factor. This is more a story about the slow decline of Dutch's judgment and mental state. It was easy to show Molly attention and love when things were going smooth before blackwater. Or at least relatively smooth but when things go wrong is when true colors come out. Dutch reminds me of many leaders in history who make sound choices and are charismatic when things are going to plan. Hitler, Mussolini, Saddam, all started out trusting and competent ( while certainly evil) became paranoid and impulsive as things started going wrong. Same with dutch. Molly went from trusted confident to ignored and alone. The harder she tried to fix things the worse it got.
@allison6842
@allison6842 5 ай бұрын
She could also be erratic from postpartum depression... if she had a child in secret and gave them away to someone she still got the hormonal chaos of having had a child so even if the child lived.... her behavior could coincide with all that
@mermaidgirl0075
@mermaidgirl0075 2 ай бұрын
After having a baby a woman still looks 6 months pregnant because of the loose skin, I think it might’ve been noticeable and Molly looks normal in the game but you could still be right about that though
@cadence4527
@cadence4527 7 ай бұрын
There were a lot of people she could have confided in that you haven’t considered. There is a scene at Shady Belle where Molly can be seen confiding in Abigail who basically informs her that Dutch’s relationship with her isn’t what Molly thinks it is. Molly angrily tells her that she doesn’t know anything about it to which Abigail replies ‘unfortunately, I do’. Abigail is a cold woman who will tell you the honest truth, even if it hurts. We see that with her attempts to comfort Sadie in chapter 2. Molly would have trusted to confide in Abigail who already had experience with pregnancy and with a father who was less than ideal and in difficult conditions. Abigail may not have had much respect for Molly, but she would have had enough foresight of the situation to know Molly was in a very bad predicament and wasn’t about to sugar coat it and give Molly a false sense of security. She could have told Swanson. We know Reverend Swanson sobered up after the events of the bank heist gone wrong, at the same time Karen went full into the bottle. I don’t think it’s just a coincidence. Being a preacher, Swanson would have been someone Molly could confide in and trust that he would keep her secret. Despite being a drunk and drug addict, he still valued the word of God. And if Molly had suffered a miscarriage that Swanson and Karen were both privy too, that could have been the catalyst for Swanson sobering up and for Karen falling fully into the bottle, more so than Hosea dying. It’s just a shame she never told Susan, who she could have confided in.
@Fancytater22
@Fancytater22 7 ай бұрын
yeah, only reason that a woman could POSSIBLY be "overly-emotional" is because she's pregnant and hormonal.
@Wrigsthelegend
@Wrigsthelegend 5 ай бұрын
💀
@ghvstfave
@ghvstfave 4 ай бұрын
@@Wrigsthelegendwhat’s that emoji for
@Wrigsthelegend
@Wrigsthelegend 4 ай бұрын
@@ghvstfave Thought it was a funny comment. Now that I look at it,It looks like im hating,Im not.
@ghvstfave
@ghvstfave 4 ай бұрын
@@Wrigsthelegend OHH OKK, SORRYYY
@ZxidArt
@ZxidArt Ай бұрын
I mean tbf, it's how theories work, theories are not 100% fact, as much as "these facts line up with idea, and could explain certain things". Pregnancy didn't cross my mind when I saw Molly story, because being neglected by the person you love while he's getting more aggressive and distant, flirting with younger girls, all while having no friends... It's enough to break her. But I still a pregnancy theory can work pretty and adds more to the story. It does contextualize things slightly different.
@cain666
@cain666 7 ай бұрын
Dutch tried very hard to get the attention of Mary-Beth, so good old fashioned jealousy should also be on the table here.
@JarringSteak
@JarringSteak 7 ай бұрын
Woah, this theory makes the story EVEN better🤩I have to do another playthrough now🤣
@channel45853
@channel45853 7 ай бұрын
I think Molly might be a factor in why Dutch doesn't trust Arthur or at least starts turning against him more in Chapter 6. If someone he was involved with romantically could turn on him, then who else? I think chopping up Dutch's want for loyalty up to ego is too much of a simplification. He is, falsely, shown that someone close to him could betray him. But he makes the wrong call on who that is by the end of Chapter 6.
@ThatsWhatSheSaid-
@ThatsWhatSheSaid- 3 ай бұрын
Karen calling out Grimshaw meanwhile Arthur: Hi tHeRe!
@truthseeker20490
@truthseeker20490 7 ай бұрын
Your videos literally bought me back to RDR2. Platinum hunting plus your vids plus the Ult Edition being on sale for $30? I caved in
@TheThirdMeteorite
@TheThirdMeteorite 7 ай бұрын
Glad to have you back cowpoke!
@APNiemela
@APNiemela 6 ай бұрын
Maybe she was took in to interrogation around same time than Micah who talked. Molly was drunk and during the interrogation Milton told her things that Micah has said to cause her believe that she talked even she did not. This might cause doubts of Micah being traitor to be dropped for a while.
@TheRickyPsycho
@TheRickyPsycho 7 ай бұрын
well this was something I was not expecting to be shown on my recommended page
@andrewf9423
@andrewf9423 7 ай бұрын
I listen to your videos while riding across the land in red dead. Very good channel
@TheThirdMeteorite
@TheThirdMeteorite 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@JacobAery
@JacobAery 7 ай бұрын
@@TheThirdMeteoritesame with me!
@balls52
@balls52 7 ай бұрын
There's something wrong with you if you're listening to this while playing rdr 2
@andrewf9423
@andrewf9423 7 ай бұрын
@@balls52 Not very nice. There's no issue with what I do while playing rdr
@kylebradleyduckslfgamingra1470
@kylebradleyduckslfgamingra1470 7 ай бұрын
Miss grimshaw was an absolute badass lol
@naMnivraM
@naMnivraM 7 ай бұрын
This makes a lot of sense. I have to agree that she was. Rockstar... Wow
@seangross5057
@seangross5057 5 ай бұрын
I think she was the most wasted character who didn't dissolve the die in the game. If you want to have time, we could have talked to her to find out. What was the problem in the game? to me, I know she wasn't the rat. If one keeps telling me it's Abigail. And I think they're right I think if she had it lived, I think she would have come back in future games. It's a shame you did find out what that conversation's gonna be with her
@user-bm4pj2ss9l
@user-bm4pj2ss9l 10 күн бұрын
Molly was underrated and her story so sad 😞
@ultraviolet540
@ultraviolet540 23 күн бұрын
I mean they had methods, albeit archaic, of birth control- herbs, more primitive protection made from animal skin, and other stuff that you can research if you really want to- but I doubt Dutch would want to have a child during the events that were happening. It’s kinda clear that Jack was an accident, I doubt they ever intended to bring children into that environment.
@Adam_X78
@Adam_X78 7 ай бұрын
I don’t blame Dutch tbh
@lanenapper1140
@lanenapper1140 7 ай бұрын
Nice
@snowbro4959
@snowbro4959 7 ай бұрын
she actually is
@Jennifer-jt9cb
@Jennifer-jt9cb 7 ай бұрын
If Molly had actually been the snitch instead of Micah, I would have liked to see Arthur tell Dutch to use a blade to kill her since bullets cost money and can only be used once, but a blade can be washed off and reused multiple times. Possibly even offer Dutch his own blade to kill her. I fully agree with their rule that treason is and should be punished by death.
@iceluvndiva21
@iceluvndiva21 7 ай бұрын
Yikes...do you uh.. Do you need to talk about something?
@channel45853
@channel45853 7 ай бұрын
Yes, officer, this post right here
@BabbleOn777
@BabbleOn777 2 ай бұрын
Maybe it's a female thing, but isn't it ironic that Susan shot her with a shotgun to the stomach? Susan knew what was up, hence her actions as soon as Dutch drew the first weapon at her. That's the real beauty of RS games, especially RDR...the small aspects are all to obvious to some of us.
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