Wastegate Interchangeability - Real Street Performance

[@Clesarie]

Man this video needs more views. Solved a question within seconds. Love it.

[@realstreetperformance]

Thanks for letting us know!

[@Duwop77]

@@realstreetperformance Monday. Do the compact wastegate utilize the same springs as the others? Thanks

[@RansomDC5]

Good video, I feel like the Tial 60 flange should have been mentioned as well though.

[@mason8725]

This is why I order from real street, they only sell parts they would use on there own cars, plus even tho they could have made more money out of me but they told me not to bother with some parts as it wouldn't be worth the extra expense.

[@calebfulton3992]

This video helped a lot. Was worried I'd be stuck with only one wastegate option. Great video. Thanks!

[@TheProPilot]

And if you have HKS gates.... you're screwed lol

[@edgarsanabia6874]

Currently have the 38mm precision turbo waste and was cool with a manual boost controller but now using a Mac 3 port and it’s hard controlling boost by gear going to have to go with a bigger wastegate maybe a 46mm should help with boost creep

[@realstreetperformance]

yes boost creep happens when air cannot escape through the wastegate fast enough. moving to a larger wastegate should help. But wastegate placement plays a major role in boost creep as well. Sometimes, even with the biggest wastegate on the market you might still have boost creep because of the location

[@joekayo9875]

What options do I have if my manifold has a tial 60mm vband flange? Ty

[@evil_glide5083]

What about the 60mm gates?

[@illuminati1649]

I use v band on everything. It's just easier to work with and a lot cleaner looking but that's my opinion

[@Th3BoyDad]

Helpful info, hopefully I will be able to use one of these in the future.

[@SIRICKO]

Go with turbosmart hypergate 45

[@SamFBM]

SI RICKO nah eBay China special

[@Tsias100]

Yup I have tial in the box in my garage it came off after a few thousand miles and all the springs I could put in it wasn’t enough. I now run the tall 45 hypergate with 40 psi spring :)

[@santiagom7576]

Realstreet .... Real Power! #1🌟🌟🌟🌟👍

[@THE46GUY]

Question, If I have a current system with a tial 44 mm MVR gate with my dumb tube and exit pipe plumbed back into the exhaust already... And I want to replace the tial mvr with the turbo smart 45 or the precision 46mm. Would it be a direct swap for either of those two? Or are the input and outlet flanges on the turbo smart precision and slightly different locations causing me to have to redo my dump and exit piping?

[@mattmorrison6958]

I'm sure 3 years later you found out it doesn't line up the same, but commenting for future reference that they all share different relative flange locations despite being nearly the same flange itself

[@08mackk]

Is vs racing considered to be a reliable brand out there now? I see alot of talk about them in the ls turbo swap market , and noticed that summit is selling them now too.

[@pryderacing8056]

I love this channel!!

[@wickedsatan1]

Same flange for tial and turbosmart both 60mm?

[@ShinMufasa]

great video.

[@alisupra8172]

keep up great vid 👌👍

[@half_r_mk5]

I have a question, right now I have a PTE5858 with 39mm external wastegate, will I need to upgrade my wastegate to a bigger one if I decide to upgrade my turbo to PTE6466? Or can I use the same 39mm wastegate for the bigger turbo?

[@realstreetperformance]

when your wastegate is too small, the exhaust gas will not be able to evacuate the path of the turbine fast enough, and the boost will creep higher than your boost controller is trying to limit. It is hard to predict whether you will need a bigger wastegate or not. My gut tells me you will not need it. But, you will be able to tell pretty quickly if the 39mm is too small when the boost starts creeping up past target. If you need to be able to target very low boost numbers with accuracy and precision, a bigger wastegate is going to be safer.

[@half_r_mk5]

@@realstreetperformance thanks! I will use my 39mm and if I noticed a boost creep then I'll upgrade to a bigger wastegate. Thanks for the tip. 👍👍

[@moza1956]

ok im confused HAHA so my turbo manifold is for a 44MM waste gate but a 46 PT would fit it?

[@realstreetperformance]

Thats correct

[@moza1956]

@@realstreetperformance does it.come with everything to just bolt up? Or do I order the pt46mm and a 44mm tial flange? Lol I was dead set for a 44mm tial cuz I didn't want a knock off vs racing

[@realstreetperformance]

@@moza1956 If you have a manifold that is flanged for a tial 44, a precision 46mm will bolt right on. And yes it does come with flanges. We have these in stock and they can be purchased online here: www.realstreetperformance.com/precision-46mm-wastegate-vband-flange-bolt-on-upgrade-for-tial-mvr-44mm-wg.html

[@gtrlife2941]

Hi will a 48mm work well on a 6466.gen2

[@numinous4789]

It really depends on your application rather than just your turbo choice. I can say on my platform we use TiAL 44mm MVRs all the time on 6466s with no issue, but YMMV.

[@JJJ-it2rc]

Payton Pritchard

[@neonsrt25]

What size wastegate for 600whp with 6662 with 1.06 exhaust housing and 82 a.r

[@neonsrt25]

4 cylinder

[@neonsrt25]

1.5l

[@pablomini5689]

@@neonsrt25 Hey good afternoon! That would be relative to your manifolds construction. most manifold framed for that size turbo typically have one 44 mm or MVR wastegate. If your manifold design is causing boost creep issues, most people will then add in a secondary wastegate and run dual wastegates for better control, or opt out for a larger, single 60mm wastegate with appropriate wastegate placement. Whichever route you decide to go with that fits your application in particular, we carry all different styles , and can help you make up your mind if needed :) Feel free to reach out for all your parts needs, BIG or small at : [e-mail] #YourPartsPapi

[@neonsrt25]

@@pablomini5689 thanks

[@neonsrt25]

@@pablomini5689 it's steel and stainless t3 tubular bottom mount

[@Smokin07ram]

TurboSmart > Tial

[@HammerHeadGarage]

Or you might be like the rest of us broke people and just get a cheap non-tial WG.

[@realstreetperformance]

We have made that mistake too, we chose not to send people down that path after seeing where it lead for us.

[@HammerHeadGarage]

@@realstreetperformance please...there are plenty of people successfully running cheaper wastegates. Especially at low boost levels 5-7psi.

[@realstreetperformance]

@@HammerHeadGarage we feel a responsibility to steer people in an appropriate direction on this channel. While you could find people that have had luck with other brands, we have fielded enough trouble shooting calls to not feel comfortable recommending that people go down that path. We aren't telling you not to, and we arent saying that there arent people out there that have had some success. We are saying that when its time for us to provide guidance in an official capacity, WE feel obligated to present a responsible path that has a high likelihood of success.

[@HammerHeadGarage]

@@realstreetperformance Nothing today is truly "Bolt On" even afr heads we have seen that needed work. Always take todays parts apart and check the quality, machining etc is a wise plan.

[@realstreetperformance]

@@HammerHeadGarage We couldnt agree more. We made a video talking about that particular topic back in 2015, a couple years before the wastegate video was posted: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmS7d4xmf6mka7c