Watch Industry Cesspool Volume 1

Online magazine about the sleazy, morally bankrupt watch industry. This volume discusses the clash between NTH Watch and Tudor Watch over NTH's use of the Tudor snowflake handset.
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[@geratkopfe]

Love this content. Looking forward to future cesspool videos.

[@Makingnewnamesisdumb]

It's about time we had mass shooter video manifesto vibes in the watch review community. It's a refreshing change of pace.

[@TeoBlu]

"I invented time. Pay me." - God

[@joestojanovic6613]

Interesting video. Hard to believe it is not allowed to use them on other watches. I never buy watches with Tudor hand sets. Don't like them, at least at the moment. But that might change in the future... Like now, just for spite 😂 Tactical Frog, you said...

[@WatchLab1]

Ha--ha

[@nelly2022]

as we say in the UK "if you're not laughing you're learning"... enioyed the info xx

[@WatchLab1]

Thanks, Nelly

[@lew9223]

This is all above my pay grade Doc, but I think the high-end brands have left it a bit late to do this. I'm wearing my Pageenee Daytona right now & it gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling. All the best Doc 👍

[@WatchLab1]

Best to you, bro.

[@Makingnewnamesisdumb]

Speaking of PAGEENEE, I was going to ask if you considered doing a review of one of the $90 pagani automatic daydate clones made with the chinese movements? Or are you avoiding brands with logos that look dangerously close to the Tudor shield now? I think it's kind of an interesting topic as I bought one because as I look around the internet and at the catalogues of every watch company I can find, if you're like me and you simply want a 36mm automatic daydate watch that doesn't cost the price of a new car and you don't want to buy something vintage you HAVE to go to pagani. There's no other option in all of the rest of the market for that, and that's weird to me. I like it overall but it has its mostly operational and mechanical rather than aesthetic quality issues, and also the ethical questions of how on earth could pagani be profitably selling automatic watches with such an apparently difficult to manufacture complication for this case size for only $90? It seems like something shady must be going on.

[@WatchLab1]

Are you talking about the Pagani Design PD-1752? I'm not reviewing Pagani Design watch anymore because of the name conflict with the car company. I don't want to wake up some day and have KZbin remove by site because the Pagani car company complained.

[@Makingnewnamesisdumb]

@@WatchLab1 yeah, that's the watch. It's okay for what it is but if there was any other option being currently manufactured and hopefully not such a blatant ripoff of the Rolex I'd buy that instead. It's wild to me that you can be harrassed over copyright infringement issues for products you didn't have any role in manufacturing. Just talking about a product someone else stole can get you in trouble? That's insane. Everyone's been saying this for many years, but I hope copyright strike policy wises up.

[@BCallum]

Next will be Rolex trademark on the sub hands. And every single watch manufacturer will have to pay royalties.

[@WatchLab1]

Rolex is the next logical step if there’s to be an escalation of a watch intellectual property war, but didn’t Mercedes invent the symbol on the subbie logo? No sure

[@watch-box]

And where does it end if they do Bill? Every major brand will be looking at every part of their watches to see if they were the first adapter, and continual user of a unique part. Mind you - I dont see the Chinese companies giving two shits what design features become property. It will actually work in their favour if they become the only brands willing to ignore the changes.

[@WatchLab1]

@@watch-box It's a slippery slope.

[@PeepingTime]

👀

[@876yuugt]

He used Tudor's trademarked hands. Case closed. He copied & stole.

[@chris7015]

Thoughts on the “Just One More Watch” microbrand launch?

[@WatchLab1]

I couldn't care less about that clown's watch.

[@chris7015]

@@WatchLab1 I watched the release. Won’t ship until March.

[@BCallum]

I saw a picture of it. Nothing original.

[@brantisonfire]

His sycophants will eat it up.

[@WatchLab1]

Even if I wanted to review his watches I couldn’t. If they’re good, I don’t want to help him. If they’re bad, I’ll just look like like a guy with a chip on my shoulder.

[@MrPINKFL0YD]

I'll keep buying SanMartin etc as Chinese companies don't give a fk and who wants to wait for 4 years for a crap nvh or whatever it is called?

[@dunderhay9169]

I may be naive, but this sounds good news to me, I hate snowflake and mercedes hand sets with a passion!

[@nelly2022]

yup, i agree... 'Mercedes' r particularly aesthetically unappealing... 'Snowflake' just look clunky n awkward imo xx

[@WatchLab1]

The Tudor looks good when you see it in real life. It doesn’t photograph well.

[@adam_meade]

Snowflake hands are extremely legible. Look great on Tudors and have a unique style.

[@nelly2022]

@@adam_meade i prefer the hands on the Erebus 'Origin' lol... couldn't wait til i could get that one in for Bill xx

[@brianmccord7387]

I’ve seen some KZbin reviewers become skittish about using the words oyster and jubilee when describing bracelets because apparently those are trademarked by Rolex. That said my own fleeting experience with intellectual property law suggested that companies have to file these cease and desist letters to protect their brand against less scrupulous parties than a microbrand ownerwho makes a similar set of hands. If you don’t send the first letter it’s a much harder legal case to send any others. One example is when Starbucks filed a cease and desist letter against a small group of Russian orthodox monks who were selling a coffee they called Christmas blend. After they sent that letter, they allowed the monks to use the phrase, and they explained that sending the letter would allow them to make other intellectual property claims more easily. I still think it’s a dick move, but this is how it was explained to me.