Watch This Before Buying a BMW M2 Competition...

[@fskof]

I don't understand why people say you can't daily drive a manual car. I did it for years in Chicago traffic and had no problem. Modern cars have very light clutches so its not like a clutch from an old Lamborghini or Ferrari F40. Get out there a drive! Life Is Too Short To Drive Crappy Cars!

[@bimmerpmp]

I drive a manual 1971 BMW 2002 and its clutch is very light.

[@forbello]

Ey up Skip 😂

[@UTubeSL]

Exactly.

[@Maartwo]

People are lazy and conceited when they live in first world countries and everything is handed to them by technology. If you are lazy to drive a manual u shouldn't be driving.

[@m2kev110]

I’ve daily driven my original M2 for 4 years and it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it - don’t waste money on a second car - use the M2 and get some value and enjoyment from it before we have to go electric!! 🤪🤣

[@IonicMAP]

I always thought the goal of BMW's M cars to be the best daily drivers BMW could build. Fast, but not crazy; stiff but still pliant for road use; roomy with 4 seats and lot of storage. Maybe I'm off base here, but I daily a manual M2C and even doing a 60/70mph commute, it feels special and fun and makes me look forward to driving every day

[@channelgreen5949]

Thinking of trading my 2022 supra for M2C….is it reliable? S58 more reliable than B58?? And where do you take ur car to get serviced? Bmw dealer?

[@christmasisawesome9348]

@@channelgreen5949 Just a correction. M2C has S55. S58 Belongs to the g80 and g82.

[@BrakRulesAll]

I can TOTALLY relate! I've had my M2c about 2 months now, 6MT of course, and knew exactly what I was getting and why I wanted it. My daily is a Golf R, also 6MT. What a perfect pair for the enthusiast driver.

[@robertolombardi3698]

Been trying to tell people for ages that M2 rear wheel drive manual is the way to go but would they listen?

[@fskof]

I think it’s the best M car BMW has out right now

[@JonathanTyas]

DCT, spanks the manual, it shifts like no other. More useable too when you are on the motorway, lot less revs.

[@andrejnaumovski8622]

@@JonathanTyas No one cares about shift speeds unless you're on the track.

[@stulio1217]

I went DCT with my ‘18, coming from a manual 235 (and many other manuals prior to that). Daily’d the 235 with no problem except in heavy traffic. IMO the DCT is the best of both worlds. It’s a rifle bolt in Sport+ with paddles. And unfortunately they’re killing the DCT’s, so that’s the last of a truly great drivetrain. Slush boxes in the near future.

[@Mexxx65]

Some people have to daily drive their dream car, baby it with schelpping around town. We can't afford a garage full with multiple choices, multiple car specs of cars, for every conceivable car use scenario.

[@ludda42]

Two cars cost less. He mentioned a $20k “cheap” car but I suggest spending less. That way you don’t depreciate the expensive car while doing the boring miles

[@ShogunsDojo]

Recently got into an M240i I did the opposite and ignored all automatics and got an Manual LCI car. Its a pretty good one car garage as it can be quiet, comfortable and efficient but can become loud, dynamic and engaging. Because it is softer edged compared to an M2 though, I think if I had an auto it would be a far to isolated driving experience, at least for me personally.

[@chrisginoc]

How reliable is the S55 engine? Would you recommend this over a 2023 Toyota Supra 3.0 Manual? I've been really torn the last couple of months.

[@ollyvoxx]

S55, especially when kept stock, is very reliable so long as regular maintenance is upheld, same for the B58 in the supra. For me personally, the M2C is the only way to go. Usable back seats, more power, and a pull handbrake. But if those things don't matter, the supra is a ROCKET and one of the coolest looking cars you can buy today. They're both bang-on reliable, too. You've got more upward tuning capability on the S55 I'd think, though, if that's your thing.

[@abhilashghosh4178]

Manual is always the better option for driving experience

[@titansteelful]

True. In a perfect world I would get a nice auto and a nice manual, if I could afford it.

[@nessuno5403]

@@titansteelful DCT provides both

[@rscholey85]

@@nessuno5403 every auto is a manual in your book then …all autos have some sort of feature to change gears your self but that’s not a manual funnily enough 🤣

[@nessuno5403]

@@rscholey85 what? Ask engineers about semi-automatics and every elite motorsport series using them 😉

[@rscholey85]

@@nessuno5403 why would I need to ask an engineer? I’m not the one struggling with his statement 😂

[@christopherwhitehead8946]

Weren’t all cars manual a few years ago? I mean, I’m not THAT old! DCT, and “ flappy paddles” are fairly new in real terms. There is no way you’d consider a Mk 1 Golf Gti or Peugeot 205 Gti in automatic ! We “Dailied” EVERYTHING.....

[@bokiNYC]

Agree 100%!

[@TimChump]

M2 isn’t a daily it’s too good and wasted on a commute imho

[@nessuno5403]

Speak for yourself

[@TimChump]

@@nessuno5403 yep I’ve had an M2 for nearly 2 years and it’s frustrating sitting in traffic in a car like that, so it’s a weekend toy now, I take a motorbike to work

[@christopherwhitehead8946]

@@TimChump which , of course, isn’t a toy at all.

[@Maranello261]

That’s all very well and good however, if then tuned. Where would you get a aftermarket clutch from? I modded my manual M240i to stage 2 and had to replace the stock clutch to help the torque.

[@kerenwang437]

Sadly the manual version is not available in my country, I would have bought the manual if it was. Still I am having more than enough fun driving the DCT M2 Comp. I keep a corolla which is reliable, cheap to run and maintain, as an alternative car. I don't use the M2 Comp as a weekend toy. It is the switch between the two that makes the experience of driving the M2 Comp even more special.

[@dt6cars580]

Confession: I own a DCT m2 comp. However, the majority of people (myself included) can’t afford to have 2 cars and therefore need to be able to get decent mpg and practicality but also be able to get fun out of it at weekends. I don’t think one can be concluded as better than the other- they just suit different uses. I had a 2016 golf GTI manual before and loved it, but having moved to DCT, I think it just takes a while to learn how the car interacts to get the same enjoyment out of a DCT car as a manual. Once you get used to a DCT, its still great fun, just in a different way to a manual in my opinion. But yes, in an ideal world we would all have a great manual 2nd car for the weekends… if we could all afford a 50k car as a second car.

[@JonathanTyas]

I don’t see getting dct as a compromise as it’s a daily, anyone can drive a manual as a daily, ok might be a bit of a pain in traffic but it’s fine. I chose the dct as it is the better box. Better span of gears, changes faster….only downside is low speed control when parking etc.

[@JonathanTyas]

DCT, is streets ahead, manual is very average.

[@ajcgolf69]

I disagree with the 2 car garage idea, to me the whole point of an M Car is that it is both the daily driver and the weekend toy. If you’re going to have a GTD as a daily, why not go for a proper2 seater sports car as weekend toy?

[@JonathanTyas]

Also got to remember today’s batch of cars are unlikely to make it to classic status. Obsolescence is built into them, half plastic engine, complex transmission etc. May as well use and enjoy them, they won’t be here when they are 30 like the old e30 for example.

[@davefyfe6954]

Totally get that your content needs to align with sponsor/manufacturer opportunities but while you are waiting to sort the next blockbuster car can I suggest you try a 986/987 Boxster? I used to commute 500+ miles a week in my 986 2.7 and it was flawless IMHO. Sought B-roads where I could to avoid the motorways but it did those with aplomb as well. All that aside thanks for pushing out your content, have moved to Singapore where the chances of having a nice car and clothing the kids at the same time is slim.... Keep up the good work.

[@legendgalaxy]

Still go auto M2 comp

[@JonathanTyas]

Dct is top of its game, manual average. DCT every time.

[@Iamneverright]

I own a DCT M2, and tho it`s not perfect it is defo the right choice in the real world, The manual is not the cars strong point and manuals have never been great in any BMW`s. Trust me I know what I am talking about with owning plenty of BMW`s over the 40 years of driving.. Want a manual ? Look elsewhere for shits and giggles !!

[@JonathanTyas]

Agreed the BMW manuals aren’t great. They also seem to hold up the S55 too when really on it, feels like abusing the box to get really fast shifts.

[@lucyferr5571]

In 4-5 years everyone’s going to be looking for these cars like maniacs. They will be hard to come by.

[@edwardbrannan8312]

I have one of the last RHD manual M2Cs made, and I daily it, even taking my 15 month old son to nursery 4 days a week... wouldn't have it any other way... oh and the wife Has a manual M140i 💪 Keep up the good work Paul 👍

[@nessuno5403]

I have just inhaled one of the most lastest oxygen molecules on the planet. Gotta love trivial claims like yours 😀

[@edwardbrannan8312]

@@nessuno5403 good grammar! Why not give positive comments? Rather than being negative to people's views. Best of all, don't comment at all

[@nessuno5403]

@@edwardbrannan8312 preach what you practice 😃 don't comment publicly, making asinine claims, if you don't want others to respond. Simple, no? I've heard so many people say "I own the first" and "I own the last" (or "one of") and then it turns out it's just dealers fooling people like you. Short of owning a numbered limited edition or holding certification in your hands, it is a rubbish claim. This is a positive message to encourage you to enjoy the car and not embarass yourself 😀 (in this case, production for the UK and EU finished first, but other world markets were able to order cars up to last month! So you most definitely don't have one of the last M2C built!)

[@edwardbrannan8312]

@@nessuno5403 🤣 it's quite funny how you are embarrassing yourself with little or no knowledge. BMW stopped all RHD production of the M2C last year, of which we ordered 1 week before this date. KZbin is being overrun by fools like you, who have no constructive comments, only have time to ridicule genuine people. This matter is now closed, anything else you comment on my post or others WILL be ignored

[@ludda42]

Seeing comments about 2 cars costing more but that is false. Two cars cost less. Paul mentioned a $20k “cheap” car but I suggest spending less on the DD and get an exciting second car. That way you don’t depreciate the expensive car while doing the boring miles.

[@jayr6865]

This is exactly my current situation. I daily drive a 2007 Hyundai Elantra. It’s very reliable and has low miles. Just bought a 6MT M2C and it will be my weekend car or when it’s nice out I will also drive to work during the week and enjoy it! I have no problem with driving a shitty car to get me around running errands and to and from work. And have my baby at home clean in the garage for when it time to pull her out! 🤙🏽

[@joshkitson7926]

So glad I watched this video, I was about to buy a f8 tributo but got a golf instead

[@audiophilemetallian]

Well I got a mk7 gti dsg along w the dkg m2c. I agree w many that m2c is still acceptable for dd, the only issue is It is a bit low for my streets reality. I dont feel It bouncing or stiff at all that could have riding problems.

[@goltyx]

Agree with your comments, daily driving mine I’m not making the most of it and you can very rarely use it on busy UK roads. While used prices are high im trading it in for the m135i xDrive. Shame really would of loved a manual m2 comp.

[@JOPOV]

Better yet, get a manual LCI M2 for the extra rawness and that N55b sound track. No, I’m not biased, at all…

[@iladtani]

Better yet, get a DCT Pre-LCI for the better instrument cluster 🎣

[@ShogunsDojo]

Better yet, get an M2 comp and do the equal length exhaust mod.

[@nikolal.4502]

Lci is s55

[@ShogunsDojo]

@@nikolal.4502 nope there are 3 versions of the M2. The original 2016 car, the facelift late 2017 car and then the competition in late 2018. The competition has the same lights and interior as the LCI but they are different cars.

[@nikolal.4502]

@@ShogunsDojo The lci is the same car with only different lights and was made for 1 year. The comp has the actual updates. Same with the 40i's.

[@anthonyb2990]

2018 M2 N55, way better daily, more reliable, much better sound, and you are missing out on 30 horses over the S55... big whoop.

[@sterling215]

Paul, don’t listen to the people hating in the comments man. They won’t to knock you down but still clicked to watch you. Cheers mate.

[@v4skunk739]

They are right. And they wouldn't be here if they didn't want to see good content from him.

[@TheyCallMeTeknoTom]

You didn't video the backside of the car at all! What type of trunk spoiler do you even have on this?

[@UTubeSL]

Not many people have the kind of money to buy two cars, particularly when one is an M2 Competition!

[@matthewdickenson142]

So much waffle and fishing completely boring

[@colinjames2383]

It’s nice that the option for the 6 speed manual was free if you were fortunate enough to order one. Talk about the good old days ….

[@freedbeefpontoons]

Not just free, but significantly less expensive in most markets. DCT is a $2K+ option in the U.S.

[@rscholey85]

Cs is just a badge every part is available to put on the comp, it’s a joke of a car , who cares if it has adaptive suspension it’s supposed to be hardcore it’s a cs but yet it’s comfier than the comp 🤣

[@JonathanTyas]

Not true at all, the carbon roof is very different to the aftermarket one. In the design and also the way it’s fitted. Still overpriced though.

[@rafa3697]

@@JonathanTyas You dont have to go aftermarket there is M-Performance carbon roof available. Just fyi.

[@DannyWmv]

I hope people don’t slate this video much like a lot of your previous videos as this one is a good one.

[@md4159]

Nice review man. I’m in the process of selling my S3 to get a manual M2.

[@eljefe114]

If you buy a BMW M with an auto trans you fucked up. My 335xi I’m running a single huge turbo over the twin with coil overs turbo back exhaust running on E85 with a back up nitrous tank. It has the full m package and smokes everything. My friend has an M2 manual with full bolt ons and I’m getting him by 3 car lengths before letting off.

[@richm6469]

£500 a month for this and a £20k daily? Not sure about that, maybe on a KZbinr deal... 🤔

[@krismcguirk5828]

You were trying to get 42mpg from the S55?

[@karlbuckley8346]

I haven’t owned an automatic car since 1988, manual is where it’s at.

[@BrakRulesAll]

Bought my first car at 16 in 1973, STILL haven't owned an automatic!

[@JoshKemponcars]

Although I very much agree with you on that statement, from my experience It really depends on the car and what you intend to use it for that will lead you to the choice of transmission.

[@rjw8368]

I am a big fan but you seem to have massively scaled back your content and type of content, is there a reason for this ?

[@MrVara411]

"As a daily driver, probably useless?" ... that's a bit harsh.

[@BrakRulesAll]

Agree 100%. Mine's not my daily, but I could very happily drive it every day. It's plenty comfortable, and the engine/clutch/tuning makes it as docile as anything when you want it to be.

[@freedbeefpontoons]

Yeah. Been my only car for almost 2 years now. Way way easier to daily than the M/T 350Z i'd been daily driving for the previous 12 years.

[@dodgers4121]

best daily car? BMW 230i. 255cv are perfect.

[@ztcricket6905]

This is a great ohnest review I have a m2 Comp Manuel, and so nice that you have been ohnest. Was a shame when you sold yours

[@MrRonan3]

As a daily in traffic a manual would piss me off,

[@Vestin732]

I was waiting for the cement mixer in the background. Sorely disappointed, sorely disappointed.

[@MrJdp1968]

I used to really like this channel, it’s going nowhere now though!

[@ImKrull]

Same recycled content mate honestly thinking of unsubbing

[@MrJdp1968]

@@ImKrull totally agree 👍🏻

[@jamesd3002]

If he read the comments on what people suggest they would like to see he’d be fine, instead it’s new car, wrap new caw, exhaust expert new car, 5 things I like, 5 things I hate, why I’ve sold new car, and the big finale: BUYING NEW CAR 2-3 months then repeat

[@M4rkmcc21]

Why do ppl take opinions of youtubers so seriously? If ur gona spend 40k on a car I ain't trusting a guy who drives cars and is opinionated about them. Test drive it yourself

[@lsfornells]

I honestly don’t get why you wouldn’t use this for everyday use. I bet you constantly miss it when driving another car

[@ravibhangal8056]

"I was expecting it to have the comfort levels of an 8 series" has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Try reviewing grass growing instead from now on.

[@DC-88]

🙏 Amen.

[@leesmall795]

Manual everytime

[@jamro9128]

If u can find me a m2 comp and a golf gtd on a monthly deal for £500-£600 I’m game but I’ve been looking at m2 comps and they are £500 just for that so where is the £100 monthly golf gtds I’ll take 2 😂

[@A-GoldenBar]

Can I buy a manual electric car? Everything should be manual

[@kristianspencer1978]

E39 m5.👍

[@andyneocleous]

Hardly fully loaded. No sunroof

[@BrakRulesAll]

Some of us would call that "enthusiast spec" and would NEVER want a sunroof in a car like the M2c.

[@nessuno5403]

@@BrakRulesAll a car like the M2C is not a motorsport special wherein a sunroof would spoil it. It's a GT. A sunroof fits.

[@Azizur_93]

I'll stick with DCT

[@Jimmy80Graham]

yuck

[@Duncan94]

I'm only going for a M240i but I'm in the same position. I know the ZF8 is a brilliant box, so much so that the new 'proper' M cars have ditched the DTC for it, but I love rowing through the gears. People are always recommending the ZF box but I just know I'll be underwhelmed on an enjoyment level.

[@v4skunk739]

DCT is more expensive. BMW cheaping out.

[@nessuno5403]

ZF8 is more economical, not superior

[@Duncan94]

@@nessuno5403 The ZF8 can't be that far behind or else they wouldn't be using it though.

[@nessuno5403]

@@Duncan94no, it is good definitely commuting, but generally at speed the downshifting is worse and on track it can go hunting for gears. It depends how well individual car makers tune it. A DCT is more precise and the superior performance box.

[@audiophilemetallian]

@@nessuno5403 Def sportier and more aggressive in low rpms. Cant compare the amount of power and torque deliver It has over the zf8 I tried on my last m340i which was nothing too much special even in sport+.

[@kryptoniteee]

Your channel hasn’t grown much in a while

[@harisosmanagic4575]

Im here after i looked behind the glass last episode about manuels ! And yes i love Tony but hes full of shit about manuels 😂❤️

[@Taylor40667]

Paul just delete this channel go get a good job its finished. 👍

[@martink50]

Lol at the views. What happened to this channel.

[@guansuu]

hi

[@kevin-l7r7p]

Good looking car M2 (comp or not) however feels like it (the 2 series) was already too old by the time the comp turned up. Also weighs too much.

[@nessuno5403]

Says a keyboard fan boi ignoring the universal praise by professional reviewers and owners alike about the M2C 😀

[@isaiahb1429]

Second

[@robertolombardi3698]

Third

[@YepYepYepYepYep]

👍🏽👍🏽

[@12431dup]

4th

[@andrejensen9002]

First!!!! 👍

[@KK_Detailing]

Sixth

[@lewisk112]

Most people can’t afford two cars to have a ‘toy at the weekends’ and a daily driver too. That’s why people want one car that does it all

[@delbmx92]

Third