BARGAIN Alternatives to EXPENSIVE Luxury Watches | Watchfinder & Co.

[@watchfinder]

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[@BrittPearceWatches]

“And why have 24 karat gold when you can have stainless steel gold PVD?” “… why indeed?!” Hahaha! Fantastic video as always!

[@nesleiwakabessy3046]

When are you dropping a new video? I already binged all your other videos they are so addictive

[@nesleiwakabessy3046]

I take that back I see you just dropped a new vid 🙃

[@danieljones7965]

A 24k watch be nice... But they are all 18k so who cares right?! In most cases... I like Tudors and Cartiers though haha... Except for quartz Cartiers ha

[@starfthegreat]

Isn't PVD prone to wearing off over decades?

[@diavalus]

@@starfthegreat more like over the year or just a few years if you don’t wear it much and it’s always underneath a cuff

[@TheCyclingCardio]

That citizen dials and markings actually looks exquisite

[@KentuckyMan30]

10:59- As a guy from Kentucky, I found this hilarious! Glad it wasn't cut. 😂

[@kristiangustafson4130]

Gotta say, those Citizens look lovely. Those floating logos on the schmancy paper dial are the business.

[@tonydixon7949]

Guys!! How could you not go for the Seiko SPB159J1 as a substitute for the Patek Philippe CALATRAVA 5226G?! Literally 50 times cheaper at RRP (you can get it at discount) Same textured dial and number colour, a beige calf suede hirst strap would cost £25 for a closer match. Love the longer chat segments!

[@gsfcdy]

I've been looking at the SPB155J1 lately and can't stop thinking about it 😍

[@alvinmick218]

Guys, this was and is a winning format! I’d call it and even draw. Tom’s Tissot choice was his top pick of the contest while yours was definitely the Smiths. I’d really appreciate seeing you consider doing this again with other watches. Maybe even go for a three way competition with Charlotte. I think she would give you guys a run for your money!

[@ARod3]

I’m trying really hard to buy that black dial smiths

[@allanfoster6965]

Smiths are highly valued by British vintage car enthusiasts as they made rev counters, speedometers and so on. Not unlike other watch manufacturers

[@christianstoyanov4290]

jlc also did speedometers interestingly

[@allanfoster6965]

@@christianstoyanov4290 Precision engineering. 😊👍👍

[@jamesrobert4106]

I have suggested if the case back is removed, that there might be a half eaten butty inside, as a nod to 1970s and 80s industrial action 🤔

[@allanfoster6965]

@@jamesrobert4106 😉👍👍

[@SaxonSuccess]

Smiths did aircraft instruments too. Hence the expression: "Nothing on the dial but Smiths..."

[@BrittPearceWatches]

That Tissot is particularly a top tier choice! They were all top tier choices. Well done!

[@ashleyslingers2814]

I’m here for the gold PVD party. Picked up the 35mm this weekend and loving it!!!!!! Feeling like mafia from the 80’s!! Love it

[@dre32pitt]

That Frederique Constant is sublime!

[@clemdurand]

Genuinely surprised about the Citizen, thank you for bringing up that one

[@markbyrum4743]

Re: Smiths and the Everest expedition, that Sir Edmund Hillary said he "carried" his Smiths sounds like men would say in those days not far removed from the golden age of the pocket watch. Men during the pocket watch era "carried" their watches - they didn't "wear" them. I'm a Smith's owner, love it, and am happy to beat their drum on the Everest topic! I didn't know Smith's was a/the sponsor of the expedition. That adds to my position. Great vid. Keep at it!

[@AbdallahMassoud1]

Yo, idk if you guys have always had this type of editing or am I just finding out about it. Really high quality stuff! Thanks for engaging me into watches!

[@nathanielbrice8725]

Love the banter between you guys. Best watch channel on KZbin for sure! Really liking this format in addition to the talking hands videos!

[@Ashfielder]

The jovial conversation between Mr Hands and The Other Fella is excellent as always, thanks for this one. That Smiths Everest is my personal favourite.

[@zumalot]

I really enjoy this format. I also enjoy when the very expensive is compared to the more affordable choices. Keep up the great work!

[@chrismuz]

Andrew for the win: 1. Tom: Baltic 2. Andrew: Tudor 3. T/A: Tie Citizen / Frederique Constant 4. Andrew: Smiths 5. Andrew: Longines.

[@isthmuses]

Surprised not to see the Stowa Partitio on the list: a great watch for about £750 featuring *extremely* similar vibes to the Patek Philippe 5226G, with heritage to the 1920s to boot!

[@diavalus]

Stowa is such an underrated brand

[@Ohne_Silikone]

I liked this no nonsense vid quite a lot. I also like your conversation style and humour. Keep it up!

[@HJuice23]

No one is talking about the Frédérique Constantin watch?!?! That thing is beautiful in blue!!!!

[@jrice644]

It would be interesting to see a cheaper alternative of the usual Swiss brands with a cheaper British brand alternative. Christopher Ward, CWC, Smiths, Vertex, Scurfa, Farer, Bremont, Pinion, Marloe and numerous others too many to mention. That would be a worthwhile video.

[@nitsan]

I love this new format guys. It's light hearted and entertaining.

[@matthewrikihana6818]

SEIKO, Tissot, Citizen, Smith's, and (grudgingly) Hamilton. The Pressage deserves a look and the Smith's is a sleeper fave. An alternative for the BB pro could be a Steinhart retro explorer.

[@brianhilsden2880]

Ref. The green GMT’s. Have you looked at the new Longines Zulu time and if so, what’s your opinion?

[@zhicaofang2354]

I'll have to go with Tom on this one because most, if not all, of his propositions are literally affordable options (or at least affordable for a much wider range of buyers), while the likes of Tudor, Longines etc. are already standard luxury or entry-level luxury choices. Besides, the Tissot PRX 35mm and Hamilton Khaki are like the exact (but cheaper) copies of their luxury counterparts LOL And just a bit of personal opinion, not responding to any particular models mentioned in the video, but I've been browsing through some affordable or high price-performance ratio brands, and I would whole heartedly endorse Mido and Certina. I own two Mido watches now and dare I say they have one of the best, if not the best, finishing, bracelet and functions for the four-digit or something USD price level. I haven't gotten my hand on any Certina for now (shame that they do not have authorized dealers in the USA), but judging from the website product page I'd say they are a bit below Mido in terms of design and finishing, but still packed a lot of value. I will try to get a Certina and see if it lives up to my expectations.

[@youraveragepasser-by7367]

Can confirm - Certina doesn't match Mido in terms of quality but still decent

[@charleshermetix3886]

Rado. Ball. Orisssss🤘🤘😝

[@zhicaofang2354]

@@charleshermetix3886 Agree with Rado. Ball would require a BIG wrist! And Oris is too expensive compared to others

[@XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx]

@@zhicaofang2354 Oris is definitely a step up from mido but the quality is there too.

[@Chrissepisje]

That Hamilton Pilot Pioneer was out long before Watches and Wonders. I'll point out that Hamilton has been in business since 1892, in the heyday of railroad watches. They supplied the navy and military during the war, they came up with some of the first electric watches, were involved in the first mechanical automatic chronograph development, and they sparked a revolution (albeit shorlived) with the Pulsar LED watch. My conservative guess is that they did not, in fact, copy Patek here. :)

[@NachiketaKumar90]

Great episode! One additional one could be the Glycine Airman as an alternative to the Tudor BB pro.

[@caerphoto]

If you want a cheap GMT alternative to the Black Bay Pro, the Steinhart Ocean One Vintage GMT is a good shot at 550 euro.

[@dannyg6592]

I own 3 Smiths watches - the Everest, the Silver Jubilee and the Commando. Superb watches, very well made, attractive and durable and an absolute bargain compared to an Explorer.

[@jamesrobert4106]

If you take the case back off, is there half a unionists sandwich lodged inside for industrial action heritage?

[@juniorjohnson5961]

I bought a San Martin very well made watch $139

[@AncientArcana96]

Great video and great selection of affordable alternatives! Love the gold Tissot PRX, hoping Tissot come out with an all-gold Gentleman’s at some point in the future! Another alternative for the Tudor Black Bay Pro that I’ve been eyeing is the Christopher Ward C63 Seamaster GMT. Similar design language to the Tudor and the Rolex Explorer II for $1,000

[@matthewcook2097]

i didnt like the other guy on these podcast type vids for a while, now i really like what he brings to the table with his point of view, i feel like he found his voice and style :)

[@nolanreed7090]

The video about a bicycle with backwards controls was mostly likely Smarter Every Day. It's an excellent entertaining engineering channel based in here Huntsville -- where everything is space themed and the best selling watch at our best AD is, of course, the Speedmaster

[@XSXXL]

Tom won this one for me. Good low price alternatives with good looks. Thanks for the presentation!

[@petebaja2690]

I would also add the Victorinox Inox Mechanical as a cheaper alternative to the Girard Perregaux Laureato 42mm. A reliable automatic movement [a Selita SW200-2 in the case (excuse the pun) of the Victorinox]? Check, a hexagonal bezel that is close enough to the octagonal GP's bezel that you'd miss the difference if you weren't looking closely? Check, A waffle design dial? Check. All for a 1/20th of the cost of the GP - I have one as a daily alternative to my Tudor North Flag and it's just as accurate as the Tudor - the Victorinox is 3 to 4 seconds fast per day (which is easier to adjust, just stop the second hand for the required amount of time to reset the time) compared to the Tudor which is 3 to 4 seconds slow per day which is more of a faff to reset the time (stop the second hand and advance the time before starting again)

[@GaryMartin-ii6mz]

BALTIC , HMS 002 Blue Gilt 360 Euro is my favorite

[@SerialWheeler]

The PRX and the Smiths were the closest alternatives. Great job!

[@StuntpilootStef]

That Smiths is harder to get than a real Explorer.

[@MeanLaQueefa]

Damn, I really like it too

[@yebwjwjwwb]

Dude you have to make this a normal theme on the channel. It's very interesting and fun way to get to know about watches. I have literally watched this video 6 times. Please make more of these.

[@Seasunsangria]

Really enjoyable & informative episode! It's good to know that they're are some excellent quality & value watches out there that are comparable with the far more expensive brands. I'd say that Tom edged this very close contest...the Tissot got him over the line first in my view!

[@danielwarton5343]

Couldn’t really get the Otis link from the Tudor. The Citizen looks really nice.

[@DrNeat]

Keep the great content up guys. It's the highlight of my day to listen to these long episodes.

[@badernajeeb4114]

14:39 , I don't know if it's just me, but that "yeeeeess" feels very Jeremy Clarkson-esque 🤣

[@ivan-xt]

If Tissot manage to put gold background on the date wheel it will totally rock

[@jonnyrotten8095]

cc. the Patek Philippe: the only problem are the side walls with this hob-nail pattern. If you scratch them, nobody can repear it. It's a very beautiful but also fragile watch. I wish this watch every success. Well done PP !

[@barfymann362]

I'm left handed, and I agree - it's so much more comfortable having the crown facing at the 3 Position. (I wear my watch on my right hand)

[@CaptainHoratioPugwash]

Tissot doing the PRX in a smaller size is great but it I can't find a 35mm waffle dial auto :(

[@davidhunternyc1]

As soon as you mentioned the Grand Seiko Kodo, I immediately thought of the Citizen 0100. No, it's not a skeleton watch but who cares about pomp and circumstance when you've engineered a watch with + -1 second accuracy a year with 6 months of reserve power? The Citizen 0100 is brilliant. Great thinking, guys.

[@michaelh.1627]

Omg…”Where do I get my noodles at?” Priceless! I’m going to be saying that for a month now and probably annoying everyone in my family. Thank you!!

[@invisuu6280]

At 8:32 did someone fart in the microphone?

[@edgeyt1]

19:57 That's the same Smiths who made speedometers, rev counters etc for Aston Martin, Jaguar, Jensen etc back in the day, look at any DB5 or E-Type dashboard. Great history.

[@martinowl]

Same name,totally different company. Time Factors from Sheffield. The watches do look good though.

[@TheHallberger]

Regarding the FC Monolithic, I think it’s banned in Germany because of a copyright thing on the name of the company that makes the silicon part for FC, company is called Flexous that makes the oscillator

[@notenoughtime7274]

Great video, as always. Love the choices and the dialogue!

[@paulvr3158]

I pre-empted the Hamilton, I feel like I have come of age in my new fantastic covid hobby!

[@bigchiponmyshoulder7573]

Very enjoyable vid guys. Made me chuckle and souns choices whichever way you jump

[@babawqjrq]

The Seiko SPB159 aka baby alpinist is probably the most similar to the patek, same kind of dial and dial color, similar case plus 200m wr

[@Movendion]

I really want to like the Smiths but I just can't get over the fact that the owner of the brand has been known yo doxx people who dare to ask for a repair under warranty and in a few cases has just refused to send repaired watches back. The way he sells watches also seems dodgy. I was lucky enough to get my hands on one before they really took off but the whole experience dealing with the owner soured me on the whole thing.

[@ccooper8785]

The best modern equivalent of an early explorer is the Addiesdive AD2123-2. It is a beautiful watch with a perfectly sized case and has the benefit of a mecaquartz movent for stunning accuracy and robustness. All for £70 ! If you insist on having the inaccuracy of an auto movement then the AD2112 which also gives you the later applied indices. Addiesdive and Watch Dives can also offer various Tudor BB homages, again with quartz movements.

[@joeplatz7289]

Great video. For the last one, Longines Spirit would also be a good option.

[@jazzman5598]

“Whar y’all noodles at?” “Wail?” “Serve us som good noodles.Austin is a longways away Pard! “ 🤠🤠😵‍💫

[@slice1208]

Why not pick the oris pro-pilot gmt instead of the pointer date ?

[@siongheeleong8078]

Overall, Tom wins this as he has most watches that fits the bill. My thoughts on the watch choices and what I think are the closer/better budget alternatives: * Alternative to Rolex GMT Master LHD - Baltic Aquascaphe GMT Green (Tom wins) * Alternative to VC Historiques 222 - Tissot PRX80 35mm Gold PVD (Tom wins) * Alternative to Grand Seiko Kodo - Frederique Constant Slimline Monolithic Manufacture (Mr. Hands wins) * Alternative to Tudor Black Bay Pro - Neither wins. It should be the Christopher Ward C63 Sealander GMT Black (£970). * Alternative to PP Calatrava 5226G - Tom was close with his choice of Hamilton Aviation Pilot Pioneer. The closer alternative is the Seiko Prospex (Alpinist) SPB159J1 (£600). It has the black mottled dial, the cathedral hands, the date at 3'o'clock, and the 38mm size but only the hour numbers are fewer (even numbers only) and in a different orientation.

[@waynesellers4078]

Completely agree with the last 2 choices. These were exactly what I was thinking.

[@matthewcoupeofficial]

Smiths was in every British car going through the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, 80’s and even into the 90’s Started out in London and highly successful and famous company in the car world.

[@Ashfielder]

I’m planning of having some E-Type Smiths dials made up for my MX5, they’re just so elegant and legible.

[@MrScabLifter]

For that Patek I'd consider the Zodiac Olympos LE Military dial. 40mm no date but a similar textured dial and arabics. I love mine and it's COSC for sub 1k 👍🏻

[@ARod3]

The PRX gold 35mm where can I buy it?

[@4490red]

The Victorinox Alliance mechanical is a great match in texture to the Patek. Only $625.

[@sabakhodjasteh4093]

I do understand and know that my choice would be frowned upon, but I really love hommage watches, they give you the looks and are generally a crazy bargain , I would take a San martin or pagani design for the rolex and Tudor . It’s my opinion, I do respect all other opinions

[@violinmke]

These boys don't do homage watches but if you look around there are lots of watch reviewers that do them.

[@RubbelisPro]

Same here, I'd put the san martin sn021g over the smiths everest all day, as someone that owns both, but that's just me. If you can get past the AliExpress stigma you'll actually find outstanding value for money. I also understand people have a problem with buying Chinese watches too which is fine, to each their own.

[@samsan3095]

@@violinmke Smiths Everest is as homage as a watch can be, but I suppose some people find Smiths' ridiculous buying experiece of jumping through hoops and staying up at night more enjoyable.

[@attainableapex]

can you do something about annual and perpetual watches? I really want one, but maybe between $1-5k

[@ahmadlalo2000]

Omega speedmaster triple calender

[@attainableapex]

@@ahmadlalo2000 omg thank you. That is awesome

[@Yoshikaable]

I think the washi paper dial is amazing. the Victorinox Infantry GMT looks like the Tudor GMT

[@Outsidecontext]

I had a smiths Everest. A lovely watch. A little too small for me; but, I loved the aesthetic.

[@morgan97475]

Instead of the FC in place of the incredible GS Constant Force, what about a Minase 5-Windows...?

[@LorenzoC36]

I see the metal bezel on the Tudor and I think that's a Vostok if I've ever seen one!

[@avarmauk]

That Frederique Constant is stunning

[@cosmodoc]

I don’t understand why you didn’t mention the Christopher Ward C63 Sealander GMT, which is clearly a most brilliant alternative to the Tudor!

[@martinsaunders7925]

The new Smiths cost as much as refurbishing my original,which I bought new to go to college.

[@alinchitown7556]

My bargain watch purchases this year In 22’ have been my Tissot powermatic 516 and the Sturhling Depthmaster Hertiage both Swiss automatic movements and both purchased $ $256 for Tissot and $275 for Sturhling which is an obvious Rolex Homage. Love them both for their great look and finishing and not raising any eyebrows at home😂😂😂

[@christian-andreasschierloh3601]

GMT: 1:0 for Tom VC222: 2:0 for Tom GS Kodo: 2:1 for Watchfinder, and Yes to the reason why for Germany 😉 Black Bay: 2:2 for Watchfinder PP: 3:2 for Tom🙌🏼

[@markw-2025]

Smiths! the brand in my Land Rover Defender!! when you mentioned this brand, I fell down the stairs, and my shoes fell off (both of them)!

[@denniss420]

Ive had a Tissot prx for a while now and wear it almost everyday. Sadly I still have yet to run into someone else who knows Tissot and recognizes the prx.

[@azimcz]

There's in Longines Zulu time you guys missed as for GMT alternative I'd say ... Whole new spirit collection would be nice to see in your review !!

[@thenutcracker2921]

Doubt you’ll see this comment at such a late date but I really enjoy this concept. It’s a quirky little game I’d like to see more of please. I personally find value substituting a mistake unless you actually like the compromise watch better, but that is rarely the case. As a game, however, it is quite fun.

[@bradleyburton4762]

What are the options for someone who loves a watch that they could never afford; it not substitute?

[@thenutcracker2921]

@@bradleyburton4762 Find a unique watch you love and can afford. There is virtually no way you only like 1 watch and the choices available at all price ranges is staggering. If you settle for a copy it will almost never live up to the original in your mind and soon you’ll realize it didn’t actually scratch that itch. Buying a watch with its own unique identity is extremely satisfying and regret is only an option if you fall out of favor with its look/style. Car analogy time: You cannot afford a Ferrari but want one. Do you settle for a look-alike kit car or purchase a Lotus? The Lotus is still somewhat exotic, aggressively super car styled, is mid engine, European, unique, and very fast around corners. All at a fraction of the cost. The kit car just makes you look and feel like a poser. A Submariner copy/“homage” does exactly the same thing. FTR, I’m not talking about fakes with original badging. You should already know why that’s a terrible idea.

[@HKAbsolutus]

Tom smashed it , especially on total price ,

[@paulbird1808]

Did I hear somewhere that Tissot have a plastic internal case - if so, should be pointed out on every view, in my opinion?

[@dotover9046]

Smiths the company ceased trading in the 1980's - The Smiths Everest presented here is actually made by one guy from a company called Timefactors who took on the Smiths name and make homages to the orginals and in this instance the Explorer 1016

[@garyboyle695]

How can it be a homage to the Explorer when the original Smith's came first. The explorer is the homage.

[@dotover9046]

​@@garyboyle695 The remade smiths watch shown here is nothing like the original - This one is a homage to the 1016 - did you not read what i said? The smiths that Hillary took with him to Everest was a smiths de luxe

[@PierceMD]

Don't advertise those Citizen watches, I'm trying to save up for one

[@ahmedhamam4197]

"Where do I get my noodles at!" Imao! Too funny!

[@BaguaCrane]

Or if the PRX is still too expensive for you, grab the gold Seiko 5.

[@dyalander]

My score card has Rnds 1 and 2 to Tom, Rnds 3 and 4 to Andrew and both those watches jumped to my mind for round 5 but the Hamilton takes it by a whisker for me

[@Rodonuts]

The Seiko 5 SRPG35 looks similar to the PP and has the textured dial too!

[@thetravelingnomad6203]

What a wonderful show/program idea and It is a draw! I can't either find any substitute for Tudor BB pro, it is so hard and one might even argue for the Seiko Sharp edge GMT as a contender there. Longines Spirit to battle the Patek problem, would be my solution. And Spirit Zulu Time would work as an option to BB Pro!

[@stuartcole4845]

For the Black Bay Pro I would suggest the Christopher Ward C63 Sealander GMT. Clearly inspired by the Explorer 2 without being an homage, especially the blue variant. Really good value and a nice bracelet with on the fly adjust.

[@golfpark94]

Some of the micro brands are very interesting. I love to wear my Eza Sealander in bleu. The new Oris watches like the 65 are a perfect choice.

[@dr.kevinmoore8889]

Does that FC have a second-hand that is essentially smooth

[@ARlELATOM]

When will CWC get recognition? They have a real military heritage like Omega and Rolex, they look as good if not better and are a fraction of the price!

[@mihaibocai6414]

What's that weird sound at 8:33 ?!?

[@JohnSmith-dt1tw]

I have the non-GMT sharp edge Seiko and it's just amazing. Stunning watches for sure.

[@glennburnett6071]

The Christopher Ward C63 GMT is the obvious choice for the Explorer II. Great video as always!

[@quikijiki1]

The Ball Roadmaster GMT Day-Date Black/Green colorway should have been the perfect pick for the GMT lefty alternative, Ball called that colorway ahead of Rolex, and it has an awesome GMT and Day-date function that nobody else has done haha!

[@TheGoodkilo]

I have a ball engineer 3 marvel light it's my Rolex Milgaus that Is out of my price range. Engineer 3 has great stats like the milgaus

[@watchalot919]

The Oris is nothing like the Tudor GMT, you well have chosen a Vintage Timex. Steinhart make the perfect alternative. Yema Flygraf would be a good alternative to the Calatrava

[@Milofchg]

Great starter watches to get some feel of their luxury alternatives. Or just great watches for people who are not so deep into watches like us. Personally these great alternative affordable options will set me back from getting my higher end luxury grails. I need to maintain for a vintage Submariner, A Lange 1815 or Day Date Rolex.

[@gsquarehead]

If the greyish Chronomaster is in my budget that's an instant buy from me. Been waiting on this once since they released the pictures!

[@Dr.C_Stag]

I do not know what prices you are all are looking at, but the Baltic Aquascaphe GMT Green alone is going for 920 pounds or $1140's. I know that is not a lot for people into high end watches, but that isn't what I would call a "bargain alternative". I am just a humble middle class American, trying to pay his electric bills every month.

[@jwags24]

Has anybody been able to purchase the 35mm tissot? I've had trouble finding it in shops.