WATER POLISHING: How to Polish Paint with just Water: Porsche Boxster

On today's video, we discuss the ratio of water to polish mixture on extremely soft paint on this black Porsche Boxster. On rare occasions the paint responds to using straight water with no polish. This video explains what happens when you need to remove excessive amounts of paint residue with water. Thx for watching! -L
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[@frozenikes859]

Thank you so much for this video! I was having this exact problem on a white Porsche GT3 today, and now you have saved me from my anxiety!!

[@gerardoponce3742]

Water is a cleaner so must have some abrasive component to it. Really cool you discovered that for this type of paint.

[@lilturk726]

I love how passionate he is about car detailing, it really shows in his work.

[@superpeluso1]

I been on that situation where the paint is so soft that scratches immediately no matter what, it is very confusing and stressful but the beauty is that you learn how to figure out an experience... and that's why I like detailing!!! Well my own cars now, I'm done detailing for costumers

[@MultiJiggaWho]

I have watched almost all of your videos, Larry. Every time I watch a new one, I am impressed by your knowledge and expertise on the subject. I am equally impressed by your openness and willingness to share this knowledge and expertise. If you were somewhere in Europe, I would totally drive 1-2K miles to come see you and have you fix the swirl marks that the dealer left on my brand new car. Keep up the good work - and be careful not to work too much. You take great care of other people's cars. Take time off to care for yourself and your loved ones.

[@AmirAbdullah]

I figured this out a few years ago, it does work. Newer Porsche cayenne does have this soft paint. slow tedious polishing and a ton of water. My boss didn't believe it would work untill I showed him on a similar Model. Slow rotations a bunch of water medium cutting pad medium cutting polish. Gonna need to reseal when done. Good video.

[@WhiteGravey]

you should add different dyes to the water and make it blue black pink red etc and bottle it then sell it like chemical guys do.

[@jesse7055]

🤣🤣🤣

[@charromexicano123]

😂😂😂😂

[@Coodeville]

Reminds me of a guy in Brooklyn back in the day who picked up junk yard alternators for $5, cleaned and repainted them, then sold them for$20 with a 30 day warranty

[@KrazeeCain]

5:33 "Watch how many squirts I'm doing" **Jump cut** Yes very informative lol.

[@ryanmcnair3451]

Dude! That's a lot of squirting for just one video

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Great video Larry! Your knowledge and passion for your craft is inspiring man. It's obvious that you really love what you do. Keep up the great videos!

[@tagerung90]

I can only imagine how much maitenence that paint would be.. Scratch if you sneeze wrong

[@LucciOW]

My E46 M3 is the same way. It's probably not at the level of this Boxtser but it's still REALLY soft. I feel like if I just look at the paint it will scratch. Definitely not worth getting a Jet Black BMW if you're into detailing... wish I knew that sooner

[@dillanmistry]

@@LucciOW I thought it would be soft paint as the e39s are all hard paint

[@LucciOW]

@@dillanmistry That's because the clear coat used for Jet Black is specifically made for that color. All the other colors have a different clear coat that's less soft

[@dillanmistry]

@@LucciOW thanks I didn’t know that

[@Juan20R9]

I appreciate the time you take to make these videos because I just join the field of detailing and all your videos are helpful

[@GethinJames]

Just shows how this profession is a hybrid of art and science. Well done sir!

[@mansibhossain]

You work really hard on this videos and cars. Thanks for the video man.

[@mujjuman]

is this the linus tech tips of car detailing?

[@Stratos1988]

No, he doesn't drop things.

[@boomboxbilly1080]

You hit the nail on the head with this comment

[@rinsepiddle]

Wow that's against pretty much everything I've learned defiantly opens my eyes to the amount of different types of paint great video man

[@Sim2Real.]

Incredible work as always dude!!

[@lefousuisse]

Dear Lary, To you as Kevin Brown, I will always be grateful because I detail a brand new honda civic turbo with a soft paint with Rupes Duetto, Rupes white pad and Diamond and I'm micro defects. I used the technique of not putting extra polish and the pad four water jets on the panel to work on speed 2 min on the duetto and polishing and it was perfect. Thank you for this video I had ever seen and that allowed me to get me out of this problem. A big thank you sir!

[@martinw3265]

Those Porsches are amazing. That martini racing 806 is so so awesome

[@ronaldpierpont]

Great info. I like your thought process for perfection. Kevin is a great resource to have.. you guys rock..

[@fredsalfa]

Wow what an Amazing shine ! - wish my black car was like that !

[@PoorManMods]

good work buddy

[@JJ3136]

AWESOME SHINE, You are AMAZING Larry !!!

[@sukemecuke]

Thank goodness I watched this a few months back when you put it out. Detailing a black suburban that was giving me fits. Then I remembered this! I used detail spray instead of water, but that's just cause I didn't want to walk inside while I was testing my theory. Mine wasn't nearly that soft and I was able to use a softer pad and just thin out the polish.

[@jackharper6462]

I have been detailing for 26 yrs and I am still learning ty for these videos

[@mike9018]

Larry, you the man. Thanks for another great video

[@CaseTheCorvetteMan]

That has come out immaculate, i am going to give this a go on my Callaway Corvette, nothing else i have tried has been able to get rid of very fine scratches and swirls

[@999thenewman]

In having paint with that much softness, or "give," the end result looks like it's about as good as it gets. This paint will, by its very nature, never be absolutely flawless. You did an outstanding job fighting an uphill battle.

[@hayksamvelyan]

Amazing work, thank you for sharing, Larry!

[@NeillWylie]

Fantastic video. Good technical stuff!

[@b00mzila]

The master! We've been waiting! thanks Larry! haha! good work!! Hopefully you can get some more videos up soon! :D

[@moneygeewtee]

Great info Larry!

[@wickedls1]

Unbelievable. Great video Larry. I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out why I couldn't remove the micro-marring on my black paint (2007 C6Z). I followed your steps and voila....micro-marring GONE.

[@videomaniac108]

I had a white 1987 Porsche 944s that I used to lavish care on and what I found worked well in the final gloss step of the polishing process was to spritz a 25% mixture of 91% isopropyl alcohol with distilled water on the finish and then buff vigorously with a clean terry cloth or microfiber cloth. I would then apply two thin coats of a good Carnauba wax, followed by a final water/alcohol wipe. This gave me a deep mirror finish that seemed to repel all water and dirt and was very easy to keep clean.

[@camarohistorian1717]

Awesome video Larry! I LOVE polished black cars under FL lights!

[@phillywalz]

again Larry thanks for the insight I kind of use that method, I do use the distilled water method of keeping the paint surface lubed so I will not introduce more swirls along with the polish on the pads. but to make a mixture like that is very interesting.

[@MechRider89]

gawd damn I love this channel. Larry's a legend!

[@purushaonezeroeight165]

Just love your KZbin stuff. I wish you continued success. Deservedly so.

[@obsessionsmotorcyclecardet15]

Some fresh meat great listened to the pod case about h205 thanks Larry

[@DioGreen]

Getting a jump start on no shave November I see. Great video Larry, as always!

[@ricklieffering]

I think you make it very clear on how difficult this actually is. There is just so much more than meets the eye and for me as a beginner I think your explanations are very detailed. And that's exactly what your job is. So just by listening to your long, but superdetailed description I can tell you know your shit. Yes it's alot of talk, but all I'm hearing is info info info info! Top notch!

[@st801016]

Great tips. I've been wondering about this for a while.

[@Kalimerakis]

Very interesting video. Always looking forward to your videos thanks larry!

[@7417928020]

Super brother ... Glad to see your work..My warmest congratulations ... Congratulations

[@zainulaberdeenessop2037]

This video helped me with both my last cars I corrected .. one a repainted Mercedes e 63 s in polish .. I used ONR QD dilution with a black finishing pad on a Rotary ..

[@lukep6017]

Excellent VIDEO

[@matthewhall435]

Larry thankyou so much this helped me heaps sort out a Mazda 2 with a dark purple paint 🤙🏼

[@markherron749]

Wow..so sujective. THIS is the reason one may get nervous working on black cars. I'm a interior exterior painter. My eyes and hands are my tools. I want to get onto detailing and see where it goes Thanks for your video's. I'm gaining confidence to invest and take the plunge.

[@ronsavege8349]

Intelligent analysis and presentation......

[@camilo94011500042]

Wow larry thank you, i had this problem with a clients classic BMW. The paint was soon soft and i had such a hard time getting rid of them!

[@Michaelsax5]

Larry, I own this same very car so ...Thank you! I experienced the same thing on side panels.

[@Breese147]

Wow have never heard of this happening definitely a learning experience! I once heard of adding 1-2 drops of baby oil for extra lubricity!

[@drivegreencarcare]

Larry you are the best man blessing for you and your family

[@mgp1016]

Amazing! I would have thought a non-abrasive paint cleaner would be needed, but what do I know! Great job(vid and work)!

[@hddm3]

thanks your the best man! thanks for all you do

[@michaelburnias6571]

Larry thank you for the detailed video. I live in Central California heat and have a Subaru Impreza (extremely soft paint and can be a pain in the @$$ when trying to detail) I have not attempted to polish my Subaru in 2 years due to the soft paint and I really didnt have a idea of what I was doing, I just knew I was ending up with a detailed finish with lots of holograms. Thanks for the pointers on the mix and even using just water.

[@hamsawi23]

great video as always!

[@randabuffer6562]

Very good info

[@bryjb10]

I have a black 997 911 C2S and just got it home from park place detail. These guys are pros, sell cars at Barrett Jackson. 250.00 detail later it looked like shit! Exactly this issue. I rinsed out my microfiber pad. applied no more compound. Spritzed it with water and presto. My fine scratches came out. Thanks man!!! Your the best. Now to have a talk with these detail guys that told me well I am going to just have to build up some wax coats!

[@jamesvorontsov4468]

I love your videos,start posting up more often

[@sendheron1]

Great job,amazing shine good video cheers.

[@LilTechnoboii]

Looks great

[@shoaib1029]

Great job mate!

[@urbanedgeautodetailing]

I ran into this myself yesterday, not that level of soft but damn close. Black 2015 Toyota Tacoma, even the finest finish polish would leave micro-marring. I did not have to polish with water, I found a combination that worked. I used Black Pearl from Car Brite, not really a big fan of that product but it got the job done. Black Pearl medium polish with a white hex logic pad, followed by the fine polish with a black hex logic pad. Finished with Chemical Guys Black Light, used as a finish polish with a red hex logic pad. Finished with sealant and wax.

[@philwell76]

true pro, and i hope you take this complimentary, paint nerd...i have a black on black a6 and i am building the courage to wet sand the orange peel... after subbing to you i cant stand to see it after a detail haha...

[@axelsaac7932]

wow thanks 4 sharing that, your the best.

[@peterrolex2349]

Wow now that is strange .... almost unbelievable. But as they say the camera never lies. Very Well done for sussing it! I just hope My Mercedes doesnt have that soft paint!

[@BradleyMyrick]

that was incredible

[@Radmarkx]

Had the same problem with a black GM factory paint. The paint was done before. First i used P400, then P2500 and P4000 all with the machine, but after using my P4000 i thought "man that all doesnt work out." there were my "signature" and some tiny swirls all over the place. My "solution" were to polish the whole car with P4000 by hand and on low pressure. It worked out, but took me awhile. Some paints have just weird "personalities" like people. :D

[@Flavio617]

yay new vid!!!

[@Gripmasters]

Have you ever seen the videos of Serge Langendoen? He is now Europe's best Detailer. also got an award from Angelwax. I wonder what Serge is doing different? he seems to use other products? his videos are a must for every detail fan. I wish Larry could also post more after videos, so we can enjoy the results !

[@jesseparris6507]

Yeah, it was very interesting. I always look to come out of every project with new knowledge as well. I didn't realize how "soft" paint stayed on a car. My wife has a black-on-black '12 Passat and there is no keeping it clean. It's a daily battle. You should have monthly local clinics. There are lots of us who could benefit from hands-on if not too expensive. I'm over in Fairfield county.

[@davecorpwindowcleaningserv6027]

I really enjoy learning from your great wealth of experience. Thank you very much. I am a window cleaner by trade and pride myself in my work. I am open to being taught or learn by just watching others. If I may as a newbie (a few days in briefly watching detailing videos) pass along my suggestion. I noticed you laid down your polisher on the ground. I instantly thought that was dangerous for contamination from the wheel sponge possibly touching the ground. Here's my question. Isn't there a portable little stand that can be used to hold the polishing machine as you briefly stop when working around the vehicles?

[@stefanstusjr818]

the very best video I have ever seen about polishing techniques. Congrats and thank you very much for your valuable teaching. Wonder if you could tell me if my Altima 2013 white pearl (tricoat) is soft, hard or medium clear coat. Greetings from Sao Paulo / Brazil

[@dinanm7]

nice match cut at the end

[@sabinomanzano2814]

I think I know why that might be of course you are correct that water helped out to pick up the debree stuck and scratched surface and doesn't clog the pores that would cause it to scratch more than buff so water is a genius method for polish grimmy so called painted surfaces two kudos for this awesome technique. Again all depends on the paint

[@ThurgoodJenkinz]

I color sand all the time at my shop. Clear that just got done baking 30 minutes prior to me getting it, so its veryyy soft. What i found to work the best for me is ( past the compounding ) running over the panel with 3M perfect it EX polish with medium pressure @ 1000rpm. Making sure there is still a light film to wipe off. Going over the panel in the same pattern again with very light pressure @ 1200rpm. Wipe the panel down. Last and most important polish for any dark color. 3M ULTRAFINA Polish and using a spray bottle to mist the whole panel down with water. Running over the panel with medium pressure @1000rpm, apply a bit more ultrafina and a few sprits of water then using a very light pressure @ 13-1500rpm and making sure to polish edge To edge of the panel. Not little tiny spots as if you were using rubbing compound. I can Pull a black car directly into the sun and have Zero hallograms or swirls! Everytime. ITs all about pressure,speed, technique and product youre using.

[@Detailing_And_Rust_Repair]

Almost as i do it! :) For a normal car i use Mothers heavy duty rubbing compound on a double sided wool pad which removes heavy scratches, even 600 grit sanding marks, put the product on the pad in circle big as a cd disc. Then after that i use a soft foam pad on a rupes, also with Mothers heavy duty. That way i dont need too wipe the product off between the different pads. Try it and you be amazed. I dont know whats in Mothers heavy compund, but it could be some form of anti glide sollution. Some really sensitive cars i finish of with 3M ultrafina as the second step. Doing it this way makes it really simple actually, and saves you a lot of time. Even if you wipe it off with alcohol afterwards it looks awesome. I have spent hours and hours in the garage testing all sorts of different brands.

[@bobanppvc]

i sand with 2000 grit than 3m perfect it ex slowly than repeat it.than 3m green and yellow thats for white car.On sun there is no holograms just mirror

[@hailyscarzspa]

i had actually tried this and got pretty good results

[@bentleyelite9801]

i just used this method a day ago on black cadillac escalade ,it work very well on the paint but it wasnt soft as porsche paint but i got great results im going to send email of pics and results

[@flitsies]

Wd40 does a great job on paint, so long as you wipe it off cleanly it makes paint come up something amazing.I have a tendency to make use of house hold furniture polish with bees wax it's cheap and it works pretty good.

[@soupdancer17]

Hey Larry, love your channel! I had a question, why did you choose to use the polish to prep the pad & wash it out? Why wouldn't you use like spray wax, that in my mind has the same lubricating oils but no abrasives?

[@bladeproject1]

If you want to get really technical. I would use reverse osmosis water. There are quite a bit of minerals in the water that come from piping and other items on the way to your home.

[@nazgetnet]

so shiny, Personally I love mate-color but this one is beautiful too

[@scottwyman5014]

I know exactly whats going on. I do Porsche's every day. This paint is on ML's too. Use Black Mountain Wool 9" on a Festool Shinex with Festool 8000 - keep it flat. Then Festool Rotex 150 with Festool Orange Pad with Festool 5010. Rotex again with a Festool White Waffle with Festool 9010. All speeds around 2 - 2.5. After sunlight inspection finish with Briliant Carnuba by hand (follow instructions to the letter). Unbelievable depth. Show stopper! EVERYONE at the Dealership just drools everytime. 3 conscecutive National show winning cars done this way. X-Boss finished with Briliant too.

[@billdavis7732]

Very informative! Being a detailer in Florida do you have any solutions to get paint back to original gloss when car is "hit" with "love bugs" on the front of vehicles! Thanks Bill

[@travisheath4324]

results look great, I would repaint. If its that soft, seems like the wind could scratch it

[@petehalasz7547]

Great work and explaining.. if you haven't already, maybe you could explain the difference between compound,, polish,, waxes,, protective sealant.. I've heard these titles very loosely to describe the same one procedure.. Thank you

[@abdulkaderosman2538]

You have an amazing program. I thoroughly enjoyed every moment of it and leaned a great deal. I even tried some of the projects and found that they work very well at minimal costs. I am currently busy re-furbishing the mag wheels on my M/B and would like some assistance from you. I cleaned all the rash and sanded down the silver paint from the Mags using 180 grid dry sandpaper followed by 1000 wet and finally 1500 wet which produced a smooth finish. I am now ready to paint the mags and need some advice. Following is how I see the process. Please advise me if I am on the right track or not and any other suggestions you have. 1. Apply 3 coats of primer with a drying interval of 10 to mins. between each application and wet sanding with 2000 grid between each application. 2. Apply the 3 coats of base paint with a drying interval of 10 to mins. between each application and wet sanding with 2000 grid between each application. 3. Apply the 3 coats of Clear sealer with a drying interval of 10 to mins. between each application and wet sanding with 2000 grid between each application. 4. Polish and buff for maximum shine. If I want the base coat to be in Chrome will the same procedure be followed as per above or is Chrome paint handled differently and can I use Chrome spray cans off the shelf. Your assistance will be sincerely appreciated. Thank you and once again you have a great program.

[@nickc3053]

Im new to this channel but watching his videos, he seems to be one of the best detailers. Anyway, my dad grazed his pickup truck against a steel pole just above the rear wheel arch, its been grazed pretty heavily with several layers of scratches. Wondering if there was an email that i could get in touch with Larry or if anyone else could help me with the products and steps i could use to remove the deep scratches and bring the truck back to black.

[@alphacharlie65ms]

You are truly a professional. Would have detail spray worked.

[@computiNATEor]

With such soft paint, I'd imagine that keeping scratches away would be difficult. Would you recommend a clear bra to the customer after you've finished, or would a layer of AMMO Skin be enough to protect the car during a standard two bucket wash?

[@3rdGenGuy]

+computiNATEor a fuck-ton of hard Wax.

[@lvcsslacker]

+computiNATEor There are also ceramic coatings that are available... Maybe that would be a good option for this car?

[@danieldiaz6075]

+computiNATEor i would definitely interested in what kind of post detail care would be recommended for this job

[@Radmarkx]

+computiNATEor that would be a paint that you can easily seal with an expensive quartz protection. This is the toughest sealing i''ve ever seen. somebody bumped my car but his paint residues could been wiped away with a microfiber towel.

[@computiNATEor]

+lvcsslacker +Radmarkx Though ceramics are a good idea in theory, in the real world paint needs to move and flow with the flex of the chassis. Because ceramics are so hard, they cause the top layer of coating to be locked into place and create microscopic fissures in the paint. Source: Thr AMMO NYC podcast.

[@youmustbethatninja]

Hey Larry: What's your opinion on the Meguiar's Foam Pad? Is there any advantage to having a flat pad versus one with hexes or imprints?

[@JasonBRZIl]

man your videos are well detailed w info but i want to see you do a "plastic dip" on a car and your toughts about it

[@SantanaOutdoors813]

What type of light were you using to expose the swirls and imperfections?

[@johnhough4745]

that is well good

[@MrKgfdsa]

Its not necessarily weird that the water washed off the excess residue. Its just as if you hot dirt on your body and you use water to wash it off the water help soak up the polish and break it down. Sometimes all it takes is a simple element to fix something that might seem complicated! Great job!

[@ABetterLifeInc]

This paint reminds me of Nissan black. It is the most difficult color I've ever felt with. Even when brand new off the truck.

[@steveperchinsky5833]

wow i own this exact car and Im not sure how to tell what i should do to it? LOL but i loved watching your video

[@taivo-tauritammela8091]

I Polish Boats and mostly Gelcoat and i use pretty mutch the same technique. You will need little less cutting compound that way :D

[@fongpenglee5351]

Nice

[@diegomarquez7709]

You always good